Fujifilm X T5: Performance Tests - no ads, no interruptions
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- A detailed and hands-on performance review of the Fujifilm X-T5, including focus speed, burst tests, high ISOs and more. This video is not sponsored and not interrupted by ads.
UPDATE
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Viewers have provided some suggestions to improve Burst/AutoFocus performance:
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CONTENTS
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00:00 - Intro
00:33 - Apologies
01:27 - This video's settings
01:52 - High ISO (JPEG)
03:14 - High ISO (HEIF)
03:57 - Focus
05:07 - Burst test
06:54 - Burst and AF-C
08:03 - IS for stills
08:33 - Video settings
09:24 - Video quality test
09:58 - Video AutoFocus
12:15 - Recording duration
14:10 - Exposure changes
14:43 - Conclusion
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Even though I'm settled on my X-H2, I still thoroughly enjoy watching your videos of other models. You have such a great presenting style which make your videos so much more watchable than other reviewers.
The simple but pleasing 3 note melody as you carefully place down the toy you were looking at so curiously, before addressing the viewer with a friendly catchphrase, is such a good touch.
Thanks, always a pleasure to read kind words, and to know that my viewers appreciate the little touches.
I noticed the 3 note intro melody too and loved it. Good job Maarten and kudo's to you @serversidesquid for pointing that out!
Thanks for "chiming in" on this note, I appreciate your kind words.
Your tech videos are always detailed but clear. You are honest about likes and you present potential negatives without all the hysterics that are all too prevalent.
Thanks. This is the hysterics free zone.
Dear Marteen, I thank you sooo much for these kind of unbiased videos :) I have always waited for your videos before buying a camera. My best wishes for you and the family, from Uruguay.
I enjoyed reading your kind words, t hanks!! Please say hello to all my friends in Uruguay.
Thank you for your review which is detailed and helpful. We’ve all suffered the Ravers and the Haters ! Recently updated to an XT 4 from an XH 1 with no plans for a further move but a ‘ proper’ review such as yours is always welcomed 🇬🇧🇺🇸🇬🇧
Thanks, a pleasure to read your kind words.
Erg informatieve videos, heldere info, goed gebracht.
Altijd fijn om herkend en ondersteund te worden in mijn moedertaal - bedankt voor je bijdrage, dat wordt gewaardeerd.
This is the first time I've seen a difference in reviews X-T5 vs X-H2 beyond the spec level. Well done on the detailed review.
I was very surpised to get a 1/2 second shot with the X-H2 in low light with a vintage British motorcycle parked in the middle of the street with a bus passing through behind it and 2 helpfully still people waiting at the bus stop.
This was on a Sigma lens without OIS. I lamented not having a tripod with me, but thought "let's give this a try"
That's a great photography motto "Let's give this a try". Thanks for the suggestion and your kind words.
Another great and detailed video
Always nice to hear from viewers who appreciate my videos, thanks!!
Great information as always 🎉
A pleasure to read your kind words, thanks!!
Maarten, excellent review, as always. I found your AF-C test interesting. I’ve read others who complain about Fujifilm’s X-T5 and X-H2S autofocusing. I watched another TH-cam AF-C test of the X-T5, showing limitations of the AF system. Thanks to the myriad of settings, I’ve used trial and error in my X-T5 and X-H2S, but I have not once seen an affect as the one you experienced.
It could be differences in lens, lighting, or simply firmware.
I have had situations where zone AF focuses on background objects or the occasional subject not be detected, but not an AF that seems to go nap-nap mid shot. I’ve seen other TH-cam videos where the X-T5 would not detect a subject. When watching these presentations, I noted a similarity: the AF would lose focus when some sort of subject detection (animal, bird, or Face/Eye) was used… on inanimate objects.
After seeing this, I tested Subject/Eye Detection on my daughter then back to a wooden matryoshka. What I found was that the AF would always pick up my daughter’s head or eye and lock focus. With the matryoshka, it flickered on and off, mostly missing face and or eye and instead focusing on zone detection points.
Using animal detection, I tested this on my dog and my daughter’s stuffed toy dog, which looked very similar in height and color. AF locked onto my dog and tracked him without fail. The stuffed version, not so much. The X-T5 didn’t seem to want to detect its head or eyes, zone focusing on other body parts, but would occasionally detect a head and only once detected an eye.
Right after I watched your video, I tested AF-C, Animal Detection on my dog, XF 33mm f1.4, ES, 20fps, 500ISO, 1/250, f1.4 and at f5.6 moving toward the camera. I had no issues with focusing whatsoever until my Cavie moved to within minimum focus distance (the animal detect was still tracking his eye even within this distance).
I realize that other manufacturers’ AF subject detection might indeed lock onto inanimate objects that mimic what the subject is supposed to be. For AI to work this way, however, should be the exception, not the norm. I would expect Subject Detection AI to work the way it does on my Fujifilm cameras, detecting actual, live subjects.
It reminded me of my time on submarines in the US Navy. The sonar detection computer utilized a catalog of sounds in order to distinguish between marine life, surface vehicles, and subsurface vehicles. It could accurately display the exact ship, its heading, it depth (if applicable), and its speed. These were exact fingerprints of marine craft.
I imagine AI algorithms work in much the same way. There are points of detection that must correlate with detection characteristics within a database. Distance between the eyes, eye movement, cheek bones, eye depth, ear-to-eye distance, eye-to-hairline distance, facial movements, lip depth, lip length, beak size, beak shape, muzzle distance, and on and on.
I went into using the new systems expecting this to be the case and I wasn’t disappointed. I absolutely love having subject detection on my Fujifilm *finally.* But I understand other people’s experience is not my own. I can only judge based on my on experience. I had a learning curve, even though I already used Fujifilm cameras, and getting focus and exposure wasn’t immediately straightforward on the X-H2S as it was with the X-T5. Merely a difference in system and inexperience with it.
I expect Fujifilm will have firmware updates (like for eye detection that gets the eyelashes and not the eye), but so far, I’m enjoying the new experience. Just finished two weeks shooting in London and Paris. I have no complaints.
Good notes and thoughts, thanks for sharing. Interesting thoughts on facae/eye - I should try with that off.
Indeed, your suggestion is the workaround, thanks!!
th-cam.com/video/SaBoQBsjMNg/w-d-xo.html
@@MaartenHeilbron Glad to help!
Great work 👍
Good to hear that it shouldn't affect live subjects, now what about gnarled zombies 😉
None of my zombies are gnarled, so I can't provide a definitive answer on that one.
too good to have your review sir martin. im a fan. 👍🇵🇭 it's my wishlist camera,, xt30 goin'x to xt5. great great review 👍
Thanks, I appreciate your kind words.
Great video! Thx
Glad you liked it! Thanks for your kind words.
Thanks!
your kind words and generous contribution are greatly appreciated, thank you very much!!
This is a very interesting video.
It is also the first video that I have seen that tests the HEIF capability of Fujifilm cameras. Judging by your reaction when comparing JPG and HEIF files, you seemed to be a bit puzzled by the perceived image loss in image quality at high ISO and slower burst rate when using HEIF.
The continuous autofocus tracking was surprising as well where the tracking was lost when taking photographs.
Whilst HEIF images are supposed to be better and have smaller files, however, more processing is required to produce these files. Maybe this could be the bottleneck in burst mode? The loss in tracking when taking photographs could also be a symptom of processing speed. Maybe the performance of the processor is slower on the X-T5 than the X-H2? It could be just the software.
The perceived loss in image quality is puzzling. Maybe the tests could be repeated, but this time comparing JPG, HEIF and RAW on the same scene to determine whether the perceived image quality is inversely related to the theoretical image format quality? This problem could be a software error. Maybe your your test scene a high ISO settings confused the algorithm?
The plan is for me to upgrade from my X-E3 to something like the X-S10 or its replacement because of the IBIS, better focussing, more features, the ability to take videos without changing the settings and the large grip that everybody seems to love. If the replacement had HEIF, it seemed to be an attractive proposition with smaller higher quality images. In theory the burst rate would be faster as well. These features would be wonderful for wildlife photography. According to your tests, it is worse in both respects. Maybe Fujifilm have gone a step too far with these 40MP cameras because there are more pixels to process and this is affecting the performance of the cameras?
When the replacement for the X-S10 is released, I will have to be very careful when looking at the reviews and I look forward to viewing yours.
Hopefully, all of these problems will go away with a firmware update.
Good notes, thanks! I wish I had clear answers to some of these issues, and share your hope that they can be addressed in firmware.
Similar thoughts here.
I've been looking at shifting to the Fujifilm X system with the recent releases, where does the X-S series fall in their line-up?
I almost bought an X-H2 during sales these past few months. Having a little time at a Fuji hands-on event, I immediately preferred the comfortable & stable grip (& EVF, increased buffer) of the X-H2/S over the X-T5, while the physical dials and classic good looks of the silver X-T5 were tempting.
Looks vs functionality and comfort - tough call!
About overheating X-T5.
I can see red sign overheating after 2 hours 40 minutes recording. After next 20 minutes I stop recording manually.
Conditions for testing:
In Settings set to High Temp.
X-T5 USB charging.
Camera stay on wooden table.
About 23-24°C in room.
6.2k30 h.265 422 LongGOP 100mbps (for longer time record).
About quality settings:
Earlier I tested how long X-T5 can record on one fully charged battery.
6.2k h.265 422 LongGOP 100mbps - about 2 hours 10 minutes.
6.2k h.265 422 All-Intra 360mbps - about 2 hours.
Thanks for sending this note. So, three hours of recording, overheat icon appears, but camera doesn't shut down. I call that excellent for a small body camera.
Bedankt
Bedankt, zowel voor je vriendelijke woorden als voor je genereuze steun voor mijn video's.
Thanks for looking at HEIF and the detail oriented review. I've been keeping tabs on the new Fuji TH-cam reviews for a few months now and I believe this is the first comparison with HEIF that I've seen.
Lower HEIF Buffer wise; I'd think the additional processing/RAM usage could be the cause, as others have mentioned. Even with compressed RAW, some other camera model tests have shown shorter bursts or taken longer to clear the buffer after.
Image quality wise; I'd be interested to see a dedicated comparison with RAWs in the mix. The perceived differences could also be down to increased colour depth as well as Fuji's settings/implementation.
This has piqued my interest on HEIF, I will definitely look into the format further. I'm sure there're a lot of general comparisons out there and current adoption rates would be important - with these newer/complex compression schemes it also takes more power to decode, one of the viewers I use took a while to get a plugin out and does seem to take longer to open the few HEIF files I've downloaded.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I've been thinking to create a more detailed video about the state of HEIF in Fujifilm cameras.
@@MaartenHeilbron and add raw images pleassssseeeee :) Editing is always some kind of issue, but I wonder about this new sensor, can we edit with usual Lightroom? Is it better with Silky pix, I have been trying ON1 Photo raw with great pleasure, it works quite well for Fuji Colors! :) Thanks Marteen!
Although I've tried to muster the enthusiasm for evaluating editors (I use Lightroom) I've not been able to rouse enough to even get past downloading Luminar Neo.
@@MaartenHeilbron well, I can relate to that feeling, it took me a whole year to stop using LR! But I still depend on Photoshop for some stuff,so , I am slowly starting to work with Affinity... but you know sometimes with aging comes forgetting lol , I have to watch tutorials several times!!! Enjoy the weekend :) :)
I thought with aging comes more time to explore and enjoy the things that bring me pleasure. Unfortunately, sitting at my computer manipulating images doesn't bring me much pleasure.
Your testing answered my biggest question about upgrading from my X-T3 to a X-T5. As I mostly shoot available light, hand held stills, I wanted to know what benefit I might expect from IBIS. You presented a simple and easy to understand example of what to expect with IBIS. Thank you, Al
Glad you got the information you needed, thanks for commenting.
The difference you experienced in AF tracking performance between the X-T5 and X-H2 is concerning and not something I've seen before. You would think they'd at least be within a slim margin of each other. Would you consider doing another controlled comparison of this where both begin at their factory default settings?
Thanks, yes concerning. I do start wth factory settings, and make multiple attempts to get it right, particularly when the problem is so egregious. However, while it tracks properly before recording, the performance while shooting is problematic.
As for a side-by-side repeat, let me discuss with Fujifilm if I can borrow both at the same time.
@Maarten Heilbron Thanks Maarten. I trust you more than most!
Thanks, appreciated. I don't discuss things with Fujifilm before I post, but I will see if they have any theories on this.
@@MaartenHeilbronwould also love to see a direct comparison to x-H2 with same parameters and conditions applied, as the two cameras should perform the same in terms of AF capabilities according to Fuji marketing.. For what it’s worth, in your X-H2 performance test there were some differences like aperture, exposure, eye-af and angle. Not that any of this should make such a big difference.. Was the lens being used the same?
Same lens (XF16-55). Yes, slightly less light in the new studio configuration. Indeed, they should be the same, that's what made this so disappointing.
The AF issue perhaps a question of the buffer? No Tracking, when the camera is saving? Buffer is much bigger in the H2. Otherwise the question: Boost ON? Fokuspriority AF-C ON? MF+AF OFF? All these three parameters are essential for a functioning AF in Fuji cameras.
Yes, that's an interesting possibility. Otherwise, I'm aware of those parameters and make adjustments to try which might impact.
@@MaartenHeilbron
The question is, why Fuji didn’t know this before? Why would you disable the XT5 when it’s supposed to be you’re number one seller?
I mean they are making cameras for still photographers aren’t they?
Viewers have provided some suggestions to workaround this issue:
th-cam.com/video/SaBoQBsjMNg/w-d-xo.html
My XE-1, XT-2 and XH-2 (same sensor as XT-5) all the same image quality, at least tested up to ISO 6400. So that's one point to take note. Buying newer Fuji cameras is more for the faster AF and functionality.
Yup, thanks for commenting.
Goede en complete video, het resultaat bij de AF-C verrast me toch een beetje aangezien dit bij de X-H2 wel goed werkt. Ik heb de x-T5 nu anderhalve maand en ik heb die gebruikt met verscheidene lenzen (XF 35mm f/2, XF 80mm f/2 macro, XF 18-135mm, XF 100-400mm). Ik ben gematigd positief over de autofocus aangezien die niet altijd werkt zoals ik wil.
Ik ben net terug van Costa Rica waar ik de lens uitgebreid heb kunnen testen op een heel scala aan dieren en vogels in het bijzonder. Dat lukt me redelijk goed, maar het lijkt erop dat de autofocus vooral in situaties met weinig licht moeilijkheden heeft om de automatische herkenning van dieren en vogels toe te passen. Ik kan het niet vergelijken met camera's van andere merken, maar ik vermoed dat die dat toch beter doen.
Toch ben ik blij dat ik overgestapt bent van de X-T2, want de X-T5 is toch een hele verbetering: zowel qua autofocus (waar zeker nog verbetering nodig is) als de beeldkwaliteit.
Bedankt voor de vriendelijke woorden. Ik was ook verrast, zo blij om een oplossing te vinden tussen de commentaren van kijkers.
th-cam.com/video/SaBoQBsjMNg/w-d-xo.html
Ik denk dat het enige merk dat het misschien beter zou kunnen doen is Sony, maar niet veel beter.
I wonder how well the subject detect modes work in continuous burst shooting (not face/eye, but the new ones).
Did you happen to do any testing with that?
With apologies, circumstances didn't permit and I did not.
What about noise in RAW files? How does it hold up? Especially compared to the X-T2 and 3.
Didn't check that, sorry.
Love your videos Maarten. Do you have a way to contact Fujifilm to report your AF tracking issue that you experienced when you were shooting images? I feel this should be an easy fix in firmware since the XH2 has the same internals as the XT5.
Thanks for the kind words. I will reach out. If it was an easy fix, why does this happen in the first place?
Viewers have provided some suggestions to workaround this issue:
th-cam.com/video/SaBoQBsjMNg/w-d-xo.html
@@MaartenHeilbron Thank you for taking the time to create the update video🙏.
Least I could do when I read through some of the suggestions I received in the comments.
6:08 is it likely the camera processor works harder to further compress the HEIF format, thereby dropping its fps quickly?
That's what I was thinking too - that it buffers once to process the image, then buffers again to save it to the card. All speculation at this point.
There appears to be three RAW modes, uncompressed (largest filesize), lossless compressed (smaller size) and compressed (smallest filesize) which is almost three times smaller than uncompressed. Any significant differences when pixel peeping?
That's not something I tested. In my mind, it's a confidence question, not quality - but I understand that it would be an interesting evaluation.
here's what I'm wondering: is this a worthwhile upgrade over the xt-4? I typically shoot candid photographs in lower light scenes and I sometimes struggle to have enough light in my photographs and the higher megapixel count in an aps-c sensor concerns me slightly that this could be worse relatively speaking.
Unless you have a clearly defined need to 40Mp, I would not upgrade. If are shooting in low light, add a faster lens or flash(es) to your kit, they will provide much more improvement.
I usually only use single focus at the largest opening, as I’m trying to get as much of the frame into focusing as I can. I realize focus accuracy can change quite a bit going from single to zone.
I’ve tried everything on my XT4, realizing that AFcustom setting is best at number one. I’ve tried them all and found all lacking. Totally frustrating me, as there is no consistency at all!
I also have read that the auto focus/manual setting is best turned off. I also use the focus limiter on some of the slower lenses (without linear motors) to help speed them up and keep them from hunting so much.
Unfortunately, you cannot use focus limiter and face detection at the same time.
Some of the lenses I use focus limiter on are the 50 F2, the 56 1.2, the 90 F2. You’ll find the lenses do less hunting & your accuracy improves.
@@MaartenHeilbron Thanks!
Helpful tips, thanks.
hello! Thank you for the video. with $200 difference, which one do you suggest, XH2, or XT5?
Unless the weight/size is an issue, it's not contest - the X-H2 is a much better camera.
@@MaartenHeilbron Thanks
Many love the physical dials for exposure 📐 and smaller/lighter body of something like the X-T5 though.
I've been looking toward the X-H2 myself for the better EVF, comfy grip and increased buffer/CF myself. Physically it's about the same size as Sony FF though, which surprised me - I had a quick side-by-side in a shop with an A7 body (S III I think).
Maarten,do you choose for reliable work, video/photo capabilities a6400 or x t5?
Likely the X-T5, unless you can afford the X-H2.
If x-t5 and x-h2 share same sensor and processor, why does the continous autotrack focus performance differ between the cameras? You mentioned that x-h2 would be a better choice.
I know, right? Mystery! According to my Fujifilm contact, they are working on an update for this.
6:15 I'm not an expert but I believe HEIF images use more advanced compression techniques, and require more processing power to decode and display than JPEG images, which could also contribute to a slower camera performance when shooting in HEIF mode.
Some cameras may be better optimized for HEIF and may not experience as significant a performance hit as others.
Okay, but this is about the buffer, not the processing, right?
@@MaartenHeilbron My understanding is that processing and compression is done by the processor first and then it is sent to the buffer. Then it is written to the memory card. If in fact HEIF takes more processing power to compress from what I hear, then the image processor may be the bottleneck.
Interesting theory.
Since the Xt5 was on my to have list this year it’s very concerning the C-af looks very poor compared to the xh2 which I loved on my trial but hated the flippy screen and for discreet shooting from the hip waist level extends the camera and people will see this more and presume it’s a video camera but now the Xt5 seems to have AF issues which presume is the processor. I like many others presumed the Xt5 had the inner workings of the xh2 apart from the poor by comparison evf and tilt screen in the traditional body design, seems we are wrong. I need a camera to get out of my way not be a pain and have to second guess which mode can use as it will give poor results.
Please do have a look at the update: th-cam.com/video/SaBoQBsjMNg/w-d-xo.html
That AF burst fail at 7:26. Isn't that a firmware issue? Why should the tracking fail on the X-T5 and not the X-H2? I would assume that the buffer limit should not interfere with the tracking but it seems it does.
I wish I had the answers to those questions. At this point all I can say is that Fujifilm is aware is working on the firmware to address this issue.
Is there any size difference between the JPEG file and HEIF file when processed under the same settings? A detailed comparison between these two would have been nice, thanks.
Yes, in general the HEIF files are about half the size of the equivalent JPEG.
@@MaartenHeilbron Thanks. I was hoping to use HEIF since it’s technically much superior to jpegs and are much smaller in size. Saves space yet better image quality. But you are saying the Xt5’s heifs are worse in quality? I hope Lightroom has an option to export HEIF too.
Under high ISO conditions, they seem to display more noise and artifacts.
@@MaartenHeilbron That’s too bad. I hope Fujifilm do something about it. Thanks
Did the failure of AF tracking happen when you shoot with back button focus?
That's not a realistic option for burst, as you'd have to hold both keys down. However, the answer to your question is that I didn't test that.
@@MaartenHeilbron i dont know why but i noticed that back button focusing performs better for burst shooting
Viewers have provided some suggestions to workaround this issue:
th-cam.com/video/SaBoQBsjMNg/w-d-xo.html
Not sure how they could be different, but thanks for the tip, I'll have to play with that.
Have any of you been able to import the XT-5 HEIC images to Lightroom? Or is that just not possible?
Also would like to know this
@@superhero2476 Yes it can - but not the ones from XT-5. At least, I am not capable of getting it to work. Fujilove magazine has confirmed to me by email that they too see the same problem… :( If you get XT-5 HEIF files to work in LR, I would really enjoy to know how. I only get it to work by converting to jpg.
... I would have much preferred to have seen pics/video taken outdoors .. Sunrise , daytime sunset and night time .. because that's what most people will use it for .
That's where the time and investment into the product lies ....
Hopefully in the next one ..
It's challenging when the weather is cold and wet and one has limited time with a review camera.
@@MaartenHeilbron Would have been nice to see winter captures of various scenes .And with it being Cold prefect for cold weather testing ...
Please let me know when you've posted your video.
I assume the HEIF compression takes more CPU power than JPEG, resulting in sooner buffering
I guess, but, really?
@@MaartenHeilbron I know my computer takes longer to encode H.265 than H.264. HEIF and H.265 use the same tech. So, could be!
Yes, but this is the latest, 5th generation processor that's been designed to process HEIF files.
how did they not contribute when they loaned you a camera , clearly you are out to sell them , i hope my comment is civil enough ,im not known to be very civil .Stay safe , if possible hide in a bunker 10feet underground , with stockpiles of food , and never get out , because out is life , and that is dangerous .
I agree that the boundaries are very blurry in this space.
To be even more clear, I could care less if you purchase this or any camera - and have posted a video to indicate that exact issue: th-cam.com/video/IqnWplwYCtA/w-d-xo.html
I certainly do not receive any benefit if you purchase this or any other camera.
I hope that by being clear about my relationship with the vendors of the products I review that my viewers are able to place my video in context.
In general terms, I feel that my videos speak for themselves.
Finally, we all make choices about what we feel is safe, and I leave you to your bunker without judgement. Personally, I'll be out enjoying the things that give me, my family and my friends pleasure.
And I suspect that you're just trolling anyway.
Thanks!
I appreciate the generosity of your comment, thanks!!