God's Dream: Transparent Body, Luminous World - The Tantric Yoga of Sensation and Perception
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- God's Dream: Transparent Body, Luminous World - The Tantric Yoga of Sensation and Perception. A Conversation with Deepak Chopra and Rupert Spira.
From an early age, @rupertspira was deeply interested in the nature of reality and the source of lasting peace and happiness. After spending twenty years immersed in the teachings of classical Advaita Vedanta, he met his teacher, Francis Lucille, who introduced him to the Direct Path approach whereby one may recognize the source of peace and happiness in oneself. Rupert has written several books and holds regular meetings and retreats online, as well as in Europe and the United States. He is also a noted potter, trained in the British Studio Pottery school, with work in public and private collections.
Learn more at www.rupertspira.com or Subscribe to his TH-cam channel - / @rupertspira
If only....If only Rupert would have been able to complete what he was saying at 45:30 of this video. He was just reaching the peak of explaining his point of that moment, when he was interrupted and cut off in mid-voice. So sorry Rupert, I hope to someday hear that magic moment over again...to the end. Thank you.
Yes, and his jaw was stuck in that position for a good 15 seconds. He wanted to complete what he was saying too. But time and tide waits for no man, or a limited mind that must express itself through time. But yes, I was also waiting for the rapture of those words...
When my grandson was 3 years old, he was playing with his toys when he suddenly waved his arms wide in the air and said, " none of this matters."... I said, "none of what?"...to which he waved his arms wide again and looking around the room repeated, "none of this.". ...
And a little child shall lead them. I was around 6 when I suddenly looked around the living room and in my mind saw nothing but a vast night sky completely void of anything . My eyes still looked around the room scanning its content. The only way I can describe what happened was a question came but not really in word, but a feeling. It was... " Why is all of this, why wasn't there just nothing?" I have no way to explain the feeling of realizing there could have easily have been nothing instead of the material world I stood looking at. For a little child it was a profound realization. I believe this was my first questioning of God, our reality, and the why of existence. There was no fear but this incredible curiosity as to why and what the world and all of us were and the purpose.
To me it sounds like your grandson expressed the same type of insight just phrased differently. Vicki
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A Yogi!
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Once, I awoke from a nap and had the angst of suffering for all I could perceive...I suddenly cried out , "WHY?". In 1/10,000th of a second the answer flashed across my mind...it was an invisible grid with points of light at each exact intersection...each light EXACTLY the same...one word in bold black capital letter... ABSOLUTE...and my instant understanding is that each one of us is each point of light and we are without limitation.
Interesting. I’m not sure if I would have gotten that.
Indra’s net
Wow
That’s cool
I saw that same grid, but didn’t interpret the points as each one of us. The best I can explain my interpretation is that I saw each block of the grid as an aspect of experience, that could be reached without moving any distance or taking any time.
I admire Spira's ability to listen intently without interrupting long meandering rants and deliver a careful and precise answer every time!
You both are the two most prominent beings on my spiritual path. Im blessed! Thank you for this Deepak 🙏🙏🙏
Ing, appreciated, Namaste🙏
I agree with you entirely. Our Gratitude cannot be expressed enough. Thankyou for shar
Deepak is still in love with his mind. That is the prime addiction, addiction to the mind. That is the number one attachment.
Agree, Deepak is also a bit of a sellout
@@alone15151 no, he “knows” it intellectually. He hasn’t identified the thorn yet. Lol, who are we to question Deepak on his sincerity or his depth of knowing “nothingness“. Lmao…the self judging the self….that is not possible!
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In your judgement you show your addiction to being right, and to judgments, and to separation... as I do now with my concept of your response. Have compassion for your addiction, then judging his addiction is filled with compassion. Oh babies! We are trying to grasp at understanding. LOVE is the closest approximation to the ALL.
This is such a beautiful and relevant conversation, what a treasure. All particles may have materialised through sound originally, as most of spiritual traditions and the only scientific theory we have point to.The Sound is so powerful in that it can change the way the particles dance, mantra and prayer are pathways to the source.Can’t wait for more on these series, thank you so much!
Both of you - beautiful masters - beautifully disseminated the wisdom and the book .gratitude !!!!
Amazing interview! I absolutely love Rupert Spira’s depth of knowledge and artfully cogent explanations!
My spiritual journey start 2 years ago. At 58 now I keep asking myself why it so long for me. Deepak thanks for Gods dream... Namaste Peace be with you
You should try psychedelics, preferably LSD or 5-MeO-DMT they are a much more efficient an effective way to to experience God directly. Then meditation will be easier as well 🙏🏼
No time. No you.
@@RhythmJunkie breathing can be more powerful than any drug.
I feel like I don’t know much when I hear these two talk. I really need to listen to this several times, as I instructed my students to do, to really grasp the knowledge they are trying to convey with a language that doesn’t have words to describe their deep meanings. 💫
Adding on: I’m other words, I feel pretty stupid! Lol!
I’m less certain of that. I watch a lot of youtube psychics who make this more palatable. They emphasize love and joy whereas this feels dry and academic to me.
The youniverse appreciates your efforts! Aloha
Love the circle analogy, starting at the same point, one can go inwards and wake up to the illusory nature of life, or one can go outwards in experience and wake up to the same thing! Our humanity and divinity of the same constant essence, the “what is”, experienced through Personal Consciousness in time, space and matter. For me death doesn’t really occur as we were not really here - not in the way we think we are!
Nirvikalpa samadhi is the compression of all reality (consciousness) that is otherwise dissipated in the form of space time awareness and all the endless identity and other paradoxes this dissipated state brings with it.
This is the Tao. The Tao (the One) gives birth to the 80,000 things (the infinite number of things which is expressed from the One). The non-dual Tao expresses itself through seemingly dualist means. The Tao te Ching speaks to this eloquently.
thank you for this .it confirms through my experience that for a scholastic mind is more difficult to let go the mind knowing and go beyond to the real knowing that real knows.
Y’all are amazing souls💗Thank you 💫✨
Your guest, Dr Chopra, shares the knowing that you admire in our collective discovery in expressive sharing the present experienceable gift!
Hm .. this is so special to talk about..
I think about it since I saw my friend, I think about it all the time, every day.
What more can be said after this talk too. ?
I would just say, I AM
and I would say, I AM because YOU ARE
and I would say WE ARE and we are the way we are because SHE-HE-IT IS
and I would humbly say, that we are as such because it's his WILL only
and this is so
and I saw it all ..
Namaste
Sending a big hug for you!!! I appreciate your guidance so much! The World is not the same place that it was 20 years ago.
Best explanation I have heard. Thank you Deepok, for asking the question I have had but couldn't find the words to ask.
Thoughts in the physical world - A language is a tool of the physical world that is written by sensory consciousness through learned responses of the outer landscape. Spiritual language is given by God that is interrupted by the inner spirit of the beholder, then it's broadcasted as a frequency in the physical world. Stillness is the energy of god and needs to be accepted in the physical world, so the inner spirit may broadcast positive energy frequencies to dissolve the perceived pain in the physical world. Deepak Chopra name awareness has been with me since 1993, I saw him live on stage, Deepak Chopra, thank you for your Spiritual energy.
Love love love......thank you Deepak and Rupert. Exactly what I was looking forward to. Someone who can take us thru the book thru a series of utube videos. And also , how Tantric philosophy and Vedantic lead to the same ultimate goal.......and how to harmonise these. Plus how the orchestration between them work . Thank you so muchhhhhhh. ❤️
Thank you so much!! Please! It could be beautiful the idea to hear from you more about the transparent body, as Deepak purposed! Really so grateful to you both, you are such an ispiration and so much honour to Deepak also for put available to us all interviews like this.
I really hope to see you both again here, in a series of talking about the "transparent body" 🙏❤Thank you !!
Perhaps, the best thing I can say about this precious dance of language as an expression of that which IS is thank you.
Thank the universe you are here. Namaste -smile-
Excellent content once again. Thank you deepak! Would love to see you bring in Igor Kufayev Vamadeva.
Indeed, Igor would be great! :)
YES!!! Igor Kufayev please!
a wonderful idea
When my Kundalini was unblocked by an energy healer, my consciousness was suddenly teleported out of my body. I woke up from the dream, my first instinctive knowing, it was like a truth in me that had no need for explanation. What I saw and experienced doesn't matter here, except that I had no prior knowledge that this was a spiritual teaching.
The Meep: where is the evidence? 🙄
No evidence
@@terefefeyssa877 Show me the evidence of Einstein's general relativity that can't include black holes, quantum physics or gravity, to name a few. There is no tube to stick in me and share, go do your own work to find out for yourself.
@@themeep2494 : What are You talking about? Why You change the topic and talk about Einstein?
This one is really annoying. 😠
As we seem to be careening towards human extinction as well as the extinction of many other species, I cannot understand the why of it, especially considering we are capable of being wise and compassionate. Thanks to Rupert and Deepak for sharing and teaching.
Two beings that helped me tremendously. Thank you 🙏 funny I would meet a fellow potter revealing Infinity ♾ to my heart .
Looking forward to ongoing conversations with you both. Insightful and Inspiring!
I’m so glad to see you here, baba Rupert. ❤️ blessings
I am 10 years older than you and for the past 30 years I have admired you and your books which some of them I own and read.
As a senior that lives alone, I follow with much pleasure your absolutely stimulus videos, particularly this one. The teachings you have passed on to us, a bit difficult for sure, keeps my mind absolutely stimulated
I live alone, therefore I sped many hours in silence and gardening, which for me is like being in meditation most of the time. Nonetheless I do have a bit of apprehension about passing on alone…Normally I have gone through life being courageously happy and a thankful. Nonetheless, I had a very difficult life but all that’s over now and I can enjoy the freedom I have to expand my mind and most of all, know who I am. I know I am spirit and that makes me feel very good.
I love listening to you, and for this I am most grateful. Thank you 🙏 ❤️
Loved this 🙏💗 Thankyou both very much appreciated 💗🙏💗
Thank you so much!!! God Bless!!! As ALWAYS, thank you Dear Dr. Chopra for helping me believe in my uniqueness and healing practices, and ability to overcome guilt/shame/doubt. I'm blessed to have experienced the moments of suffering because it makes the moments of intense joy and unconditional love so much brighter!!! Thank you guys for the great message!!!
Please do continue exploring it. It is a great conversation. Great appreciation to you both, our wonderful and respectful teachers.
Excellent. Thank you. Looking forward to the series you speak of
True ease entered my life when I moved into a house that was filled with paranormal activity. After living with that phenomenon for 10 years I took away from that experience an overall calmness because I knew there is so much about our perception of reality that cannot be explained. but is there. I learned to be still and be aware of what lies beneath the projection.
Hodgepodge: I need proof
Rupert Master
Wonderful conversation! And I'm waiting anxiously for the new proposal of you both do this series of talking about Spira's book! Please, do this!!! 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Yes! Please do a series on this fascinating subject.
Thank you for this luminous and illuminating conversation...Darkness, perhaps, is an illusion. Obrigada. Much love to you both.
Amazing discussion. Im looking forward to the series you mention at the end, Dr. Chopra. Thank you.
My friends, alive with me at this time. Undergoing our journeys, truly enriching each other. bGod's journey expressed through us, as us.
Delighted with this conversation! This is the knowing within me that I feel is growing inthe consciousness of us all. Glad to be alive now to see this and be part of it.
I love this learning journey that I am on and I believe I’m on the right track here. I have asked for knowledge of what is real. Beyond all this. Death included. No coincidences. Thank you Deepok. For your education, search, guidance on consciousness.
Many great takeaways! Thank you, Deepak, Rupert. Looking forward to many more in the series!!!
I feel like Rupert is schooling Deepak on what he should already know from his ethnicity and culture.
Thank you Thank you both
Best interview ever!
Thanks, this answer my questions.
Nice to see you questioning
Deepak what happened at 45:31?
Clear and lightful! I would also remember the Australian aboriginal tradition of Dreamland, very poetical and philosophical. My question is about consciousness and animals. As Consciousness is the reality, in which sense they are less conscious than us and are we sure that language and self recognition are necessary to thought? Thanks to all who made possible and accessible this beautiful conversation.
Animal vehicles despite being penetrated by consciousness from the omnipresent soul or divine, don't allow self awareness of the soul to penetrate except very intelligent dolphins, elephants and some monkeys which pass the mirror test. Human vehicles allow self awareness. Animals can communicate in their own language in the form of different sounds and actions. But self awareness is the most important missing link. Human self awareness is both a boon and curse since it also leads to false identification with thoughts and body which is an illusion due to ignorance shaped by the past karma.
Thank you for this.
I am you, you are me , we are One family… Bliss to one and all…✨🎼✨🎼❤️🧡💛💚💙💜🙏🏻💞✨🎼✨🎼
I believe we are individual points of awareness with a unique signiture of vibration.
Jai Ma🕉💐🕉
If I happen to say a curse word, my 5 year old daughter Joeley tells me to say “I am sorry God” or “sorry Jesus, sorry Jesus”. I am forever grateful for her keeping me in check
DhanyabadDhanyabadDhanyabad thanksgretitude wonderful Discussions thanks
We are all born and we all die But We just do that at different times yes? Only the Experience is different. These conversations are so important for Human evolution. Thankyou Deepak for this opportunity 🙏
"we are all born" "we all die" Who is we? Is it the ego self (thoughts/body) or the real self (conscious and omnipresent soul or divine)?
Holy cow!
Blown away!!
Two very high ranking members of the spiritual hierarchy.
Awesome conversation. Love both of you guys!
108th comment (my favorite number)... beautiful talk... thank you both for all your precious insights.
thanks, wonderful interview
Brilliant and inspiring! It's a 10/10
Wowww excellent wisdom
Wonderful !!!!
Transparent and Luminous xommmmmm
Great conversation 🙏thanks
Thank you ji
Thank you.
Wonderful discussion.
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thank you
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Is the book you are discussing a new release? I did not see it currently listed on Amazon. Or is available elsewhere?
Brilliant
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i am watching
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38:17 So when I (localized in a particular body and mind under my present name) dies consciousness just wakes up from one of its many dreams, a dream of of being body-mind named @bardo?
Cannot separate, dream is continuous day n night are constructs of thought on a time line chart to demonstrate happenings of time which stands not pass
Deepak, your expression your experience around 11 minutes on this clip or so, It’s all relative to my experience as well.
My perspective of the experience is I cannot cannot find anyone anywhere as well as my name and experience Michelle- how did you process the anguish sadness ? Was it the Tantric? Or did you have support and calm and understanding with the other experience like friends family guru? Or did you remain in solitude at this time where are you in solitude at this time for this is where I am?
Powerful. I just came across this today. I am curious if Rupert and Deepak have continued a conversation as was suggested?
I understand the anguish. Amitofu
The first question in any conversation/consideration/contemplation is "what are your coordinates?" From what standpoint are you speaking?
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i like when he alost called his essays energies
What happened here 45:31? Had to put the tantric teachings into practice immediately..
Yes what happened there? So confusing
watching the clock promoting the book.. It was pretty intense and the end got cut off.
The matter is the Christ. The embodied spirit mystery solved. Gassho 🙏🏻
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I can't find that book anywhere 😫
Sir , when we know all its maya then why we are wary of extinction. What if we live some more billion of years in this Infinite field of time and space and conciousness... will that not a minuscule of time?
this book is not available in Amazon. Where can I find this book - Transparent Body, Luminous World
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I think is a great error to use Einstein quotes out of the context 30:35.
It can lead some of us to misunderstanding and its not intelectual honest.
the spiritual crisis that comes from the realization of the emptiness of form, and its potentially destructive turn toward nihilism, is resolved by the tantric path that re-orients the adept toward a re-embodiment of form through meditation and identification with the deities of the void, the underlying patterns of cosmic forces. this is the spiritual re-orientation for which tantra was originally created, as jeffrey hopkins claims in his book on tantric practice.
"emptiness of form" - But it does not mean whatever form we see is an illusion. Advaitha vedanta does NOT say that Maya is an illusion through which the brahman (consciousness is an attribute of brahman just like heat is for fire) falsely appears as the universe. Maya is the creative shakthi of the Brahman and it is absolutely real. It also means the material realm is also very real.
Mithya also does not mean false. It means temporary or relative world. It is just like temporary tasks at the office we have complete since they are not false.
How do u purchase just the book “Transparent Body, Luminous Word”? All I can find is a set with an audio recording
I don't think you can. Even on Rupert's site it's a set.
Do you know about space, solar weather, its effects on Earth's EM field seismicity and biological life?
neti neti, not this not that, MY TRUE ESSENCE, I intuit inside, within myself, heart area, expansion of awareness to other parts of my body
I work on the inside and it comes out, is expressed as appropriate.
I just continue to intuit, be aware, present within myself, I am essence self. And I express/self-express appropriately.
I persist.
Persistance furthers.
With alot of respect , why God need to Dream. He always remain in present , even many of his creation not physically (us) want to remain in present and have a dreamless night.
Dreams are based on impressions accumulated in the present or wake state which gets stored in the subconscious mind. Is so called "god" dreaming? Well, first define god. Then we can worry about it dreaming.
@@Dharmicaction I think this Master's know what I try to mean here.Anyhow thank you for defining what is dream and want me to define God.I don't know why after understandung we are conscious being we have to think that that consciousness is ultimate reality..
Hi Nanda, Good question. It's not a dream - dream per se.
To my understanding, it's explaining that everything is an illusion... like a dream.
So, *in reality*, you are neither that child, nor that young man, nor will be that old man you see in the mirror!
You are... the Transparent Atman!
It’s all electrical impulses...everything!