You know, there was a time I really didn't like this channel. I couldn't even tell you a reason, just had some sort of bias toward it. I just revisited it after about 3 years, and not only are you super informative, you're hilarious. It's been really bothering me for a few days, and I'm not sure why. I've probably watched 20 of your videos in the last week and loved every one of them. Keep doing what you're doing - nobody else in this community really has any content like yours, and it makes you stand out in a good way.
I can’t tell you how many channels I’ve done the exact same thing. Just get a bad first impression for whatever reason and decide I don’t like them. Some of my fav channel are ones I hated at first 😂 good on you for having a change of heart. Many folks don’t have that ability.
haha thanks for sticking with me, I hope to snare everyone in the end! I do have a certain manner that doesnt suit everyone on first impression, thats for certain
Roughly 2 or 3 years ago he put out a lot of videos that were very strange, I liked them (I have the type of immature sense of humor that appreciates a grown man in a giant dick costume) but I wouldn't be surprised if they were a bit off-putting to some people.
It's like white bread compared to whole grain. The white bread is easier to like at first but the whole grain gives you something to digest and work with.
Chicken video for dinner, steel test video for dessert. Thanks for watching gang! Music is Sunleth Waterscape and March of the Dreadnaughts from Final Fantasy XIII
Love the music that you put into these vids. Can't wait to see the maxamet results. The edge retention on all these new steels is pretty crazy seeing how not too long ago VG10 was considered a super steel. Hope your arm is doing okay, all these cut tests seem pretty exhausting especially when so many are getting into the high hundreds of cuts.
I am always fascinated with your cut tests. Comparing multiple knives with similar edges makes it even better. Your work makes a difference! Thanks for sacrificing your poor appendages!
Pete is channeling his inner avatar last airbender by vanishing for (what felt like) 100 years and suddenly appearing full force out of nowhere! Love the edge tests cutmaster Pete, keep up the great work. Would love a new top steel t-shirt btw! I would buy that in a heartbeat!!!
Thanks for the content Pete. I really appreciate the time and work you put in to these. Between work, the kid, trying to keep myself alive and sharpening I can’t make anything close to this quality of content. So on behalf of everyone, thank you.
Looking forward to the K390 tests! This was a really interesting video to enjoy especially after the Magna-Cut test! Makes me exited for the spyderco Magna-Cut UK-PK and Manix.
Thank you. I like your straight forward, no bs, down to earth/chicken/puppies/family/garden style. Your sense of humor and intelligence are a great backbone to this. 👍 and five sharp edges!
Great timing on this video! I've been doing some testing on Vanax recently and I was getting some pretty great results; better than all but one of the m390/20cv knives I've tested. All the information Ive read has lead me to expect the exact opposite, so I was really starting to second guess myself. This was good for (what little remains of) my sanity.
Cedric and Ada’s tests sometimes don’t match up with CATRA results, those are the most interesting ones to me. LC200N, Vanax, and Magna-Cut being the most notable outliers!
Loving these cut tests & comparisons. Really looking forward to seeing how the k390 stacks up. I’d be keen on seeing on how Cruwear preforms compared to the Magnacut as well, given as how Magnacut has been referred to as a somewhat stainless version of Cruwear. Cheers!
The first video of yours I ever saw was the cold steel sr1 and ever since then I've been a fan. Getting more familiar with your test videos I have started to rely on your judgement on blade quality and in all fairness you're the only guy I know of that has actually tested so many different brands and steels in the same way to actually have a real comprehensive comparison chart that easy to reference. Thank you for your dedication Pete !
Pete! I'm so happy to see you back in the swing of things with knife videos! The internet needs you, man! This is a MUCH brighter place with you in it! Alright enough mush, I'm gonna watch the video now! haha
You're absolutely one of my favorite channels. Knives, dogs, food, hats whatever. I know I'm just one person who cares but I love all your content. Keep it up.
Pete, I think it's safe to say we're all wondering about how well kizers 4V, 3V, and 10V stand up to a little scrutiny, were you thinking about running any tests on kizer? They also came out recently with a cormorant in S90V!!!
You featured the M4 Benchmade Freek a couple of years ago. That blade geometry might perform a bit better and the handle is way more comfy. Great video, and it was cool to see Vanax take the win!
Not sure about the Freek geometry, I have both and the Bailout is a much thinner slicier blade. But you are absolutely correct about the comfort of the Super Freek.
Pete, I am so glad to see you mustering up the time and motivation for more knife vids! Do you have any shirts you can still order? Would love to get one
Love a Cedric & Ada comparison cut test ! Gotta admit I'm glad for the pace of uploads, just want you to take care of yourself. It's a marathon not a sprint !
Enjoying your channel, not a EDC knife person though. However, I love to cook and have collected chef's knives over the years in different steels. You show cutting foods with a kitchen knife on your channel occasionally. Has your obsession with knife steels and knife design carried into the kitchen? If so, please share. What would be a good stress test for kitchen knives?
I am blessed to have a Sandrin Torino and a couple of PM2’s in Maxamet. I use them almost exclusively for light tasks and the edge retention is alien like. These are all factory out of box edges. I love your channel but would it be your opinion those two I mentioned above are BY FAR the best factory edge knives? Thank you.
How do you sharpen that tungsten carbide knife? Brought it to a professional sharpener and he couldn't really do much, it doesn't even cut printer paper properly.
Thank you for doing this test! Man the Waypoint is a beast of a knife. Well, maybe beast isn't the right word but that's just awesome it could do that much compared to the competition. It's also imo the most beautiful of many knives in terms of design.
Sincerely hope they make the Waypoint in a slightly larger variant. I’ve carried it for right at 3 years, I can’t find a knife that gives me a reason to replace it. I wish more knives used the wire clip instead of sculpted Ti.
Do you think ...doing a max 100 cuts,...then doing a BESS sharpness test ...would reflect the same results or are there wild card variables?...save your shoulder some grief maybe-meh- either way , love the channel, cheers m8
You're only testing a single point on the knife. Perhaps you could do like 3 points (front, middle, back) on the edge to reduce RNG. Cutting through paper gives you a better overall picture of the sharpness of the edge.
Dang man, I feel like you must hate your poor forearms 😂. Happy to see Quietcarry's Vanax crushing it. I love that knife! I will say, the one downside of this format is how it ends up depicting M4. Ideally, right, you could put a more aggressive edge on it, since it has so much greater toughness than M390. Overall, I love to see this direct head to head for knives. As much as I'm a steel geek, it's great to see how other factors (like the companies heat treat and blade geometry) end up affecting the performance.
I watch your videos just to see the Dogs and the Chickens…just kidding…love the comparisons and the humour. Just don’t give yourself tendinitis in the shoulder. Maybe a little different setup for cutting , possibly standing with the board a little lower,might help with the leverage. Anyway Cheers from Canada! Mike.
Still love M4. K390 may eventually win me over but for now M4 is still the one for me. Between it, S90V, S30V/S35VN, 3V, CTS-XHP, 14C28N, AUS-10A and AUS-8A my bases are covered.
Have you noticed any significant difference in ease of sharpness between Lionsteel and the other M390/20CV? I am guessing the plus side of the heat treatment would be a much easier sharpening for the Thrill. Thanks.
the lionsteel took a little longer cos the edge was fairly thick and needed to be taken down a little, but would be a slightly easier sharpen probably vs an identical knife blade in the spydie m390
wouldnt the grind affect the results? like if all different steels are ground at 600, some steel might perform better and others at mirror polish. what if the steels are ground dofferently to their most optimal? i think that would help
absolutely, I would wager a guess that M4 would have done better at a lower polish etc, previous tests I have done years ago indicate certain steels do better with a more grainy finish
wouldn't it be good if there was a cutting medium that could expose a difference in edge-holding with far fewer passes. like some-sorta gnarly sheet material that 440A could generally slice 1 time, VG-10 5 times and M390 13 times. just for the sake of edge-testers' joints and tendons.
Sure, look up dbks rope test. This test is practical for different reasons though. The results of this test are going to be more granular and allow tougher knives with higher edge stability a bit more of an advantage. It allows us to get a differernt view of edge retention while remaining comparable to his previous testing.
Same angle maybe, but what about thickness behind the edge ? Different knives have different geometries, so your protocol doesn't exactly test for steels, more for knives and makers heat-treat. But you know it, and I am not saying that it's not useful. Maybe I am wrong and thickness doesn't play such a role in rope cutting? For god sake, do something like a 2 inches rope at least, we need you with both arms to continue enjoying your fun channel haha! Maybe ask us money to buy a catra (open debate : "standard catra is way too abrasive" )
Țo be scientifically correct it should be one knife with same blade shape but different steel. Edge retention and performance depend on a lot of factors like blade thiknes, shapes etc...
Sweet vid, broham. As you mentioned, CPM-M4 doesn’t really do that well with a polished edge. One of these days, it would be interesting to see what it could do with a 600 grit finish. I’d wager it could get into the high 700 range, maybe even 800. Maybe I’m a cunt. Who knows?!
I haven't been through the video but the Lion Steel will lose. Even the Vanax will beat it. Lion Steel posted heat treat is about half what they state it is.:)
You know, there was a time I really didn't like this channel. I couldn't even tell you a reason, just had some sort of bias toward it. I just revisited it after about 3 years, and not only are you super informative, you're hilarious.
It's been really bothering me for a few days, and I'm not sure why. I've probably watched 20 of your videos in the last week and loved every one of them.
Keep doing what you're doing - nobody else in this community really has any content like yours, and it makes you stand out in a good way.
I can’t tell you how many channels I’ve done the exact same thing. Just get a bad first impression for whatever reason and decide I don’t like them. Some of my fav channel are ones I hated at first 😂 good on you for having a change of heart. Many folks don’t have that ability.
Pete from 3 years ago was a total douche. the new and improved Pete has had an existential crisis
haha thanks for sticking with me, I hope
to snare everyone in the end! I do have a certain manner that doesnt suit everyone on first impression, thats for certain
Roughly 2 or 3 years ago he put out a lot of videos that were very strange, I liked them (I have the type of immature sense of humor that appreciates a grown man in a giant dick costume) but I wouldn't be surprised if they were a bit off-putting to some people.
It's like white bread compared to whole grain. The white bread is easier to like at first but the whole grain gives you something to digest and work with.
Chicken video for dinner, steel test
video for dessert. Thanks for watching gang!
Music is Sunleth Waterscape and March of the Dreadnaughts from
Final Fantasy XIII
Love the music that you put into these vids. Can't wait to see the maxamet results. The edge retention on all these new steels is pretty crazy seeing how not too long ago VG10 was considered a super steel. Hope your arm is doing okay, all these cut tests seem pretty exhausting especially when so many are getting into the high hundreds of cuts.
That magnacut mule cutting 1550 times you just put up is by far the champion of edges.
Thanks Pete
Pete…when you come out of the wilderness you come out of it all guns blazing! Talk about prolific! (I smell long service leave…)
I am always fascinated with your cut tests. Comparing multiple knives with similar edges makes it even better. Your work makes a difference! Thanks for sacrificing your poor appendages!
Pete is channeling his inner avatar last airbender by vanishing for (what felt like) 100 years and suddenly appearing full force out of nowhere! Love the edge tests cutmaster Pete, keep up the great work. Would love a new top steel t-shirt btw! I would buy that in a heartbeat!!!
Thanks for the content Pete. I really appreciate the time and work you put in to these. Between work, the kid, trying to keep myself alive and sharpening I can’t make anything close to this quality of content. So on behalf of everyone, thank you.
Looking forward to the K390 tests! This was a really interesting video to enjoy especially after the Magna-Cut test! Makes me exited for the spyderco Magna-Cut UK-PK and Manix.
Thank you. I like your straight forward, no bs, down to earth/chicken/puppies/family/garden style. Your sense of humor and intelligence are a great backbone to this.
👍 and five sharp edges!
Great timing on this video!
I've been doing some testing on Vanax recently and I was getting some pretty great results; better than all but one of the m390/20cv knives I've tested. All the information Ive read has lead me to expect the exact opposite, so I was really starting to second guess myself. This was good for (what little remains of) my sanity.
Cedric and Ada’s tests sometimes don’t match up with CATRA results, those are the most interesting ones to me. LC200N, Vanax, and Magna-Cut being the most notable outliers!
Loving these cut tests & comparisons. Really looking forward to seeing how the k390 stacks up.
I’d be keen on seeing on how Cruwear preforms compared to the Magnacut as well, given as how Magnacut has been referred to as a somewhat stainless version of Cruwear.
Cheers!
So thankful you’re back!!
Glad to have more of your content Pete. The pups have grown. Thanks for the effort 😁👍
I really enjoy your videos,especially the technological side of edge retention.
The first video of yours I ever saw was the cold steel sr1 and ever since then I've been a fan. Getting more familiar with your test videos I have started to rely on your judgement on blade quality and in all fairness you're the only guy I know of that has actually tested so many different brands and steels in the same way to actually have a real comprehensive comparison chart that easy to reference. Thank you for your dedication Pete !
Pete! I'm so happy to see you back in the swing of things with knife videos! The internet needs you, man! This is a MUCH brighter place with you in it! Alright enough mush, I'm gonna watch the video now! haha
I'm so glad you put something under that cutting board! Seeing it wander around on the last video left me twitching. 😆
You're absolutely one of my favorite channels. Knives, dogs, food, hats whatever. I know I'm just one person who cares but I love all your content. Keep it up.
I'm so glad you're back to putting out content, nobody makes me laugh and get knife stuff, thanks for all the hard work that you do, we appreciate it.
You've been spoiling us for content thank you ❤️
Thanks Pete, for sacrificing your shoulder for all of us knife nerds! It's always fun to watch what you are up to.
He pulled out the sharpening stuff to check lol. This is classic Pete. Thank you for leaving it in.
You really go the extra mile with your content. I appreciate all the effort and can't understand how you don't have more subscribers.
Great, real-world test ya got here...super helpful dude!💪😎👍
Pete, I think it's safe to say we're all wondering about how well kizers 4V, 3V, and 10V stand up to a little scrutiny, were you thinking about running any tests on kizer? They also came out recently with a cormorant in S90V!!!
Doggos for dessert!
Man, your shoulder must be aching, ice that bad boy down!
Thanks for the informative content Pete. You are one of a few that embody everything that is the good in the knife community. Keep up the good work
That Quietcarry is Waypoint. Nice video Pete.
thats the one, I always mix them up
@@CedricAda i know, it happens, people do mistakes and forget things time to time . Thanks for that rope cutting.
You featured the M4 Benchmade Freek a couple of years ago. That blade geometry might perform a bit better and the handle is way more comfy.
Great video, and it was cool to see Vanax take the win!
Not sure about the Freek geometry, I have both and the Bailout is a much thinner slicier blade. But you are absolutely correct about the comfort of the Super Freek.
Pete, I am so glad to see you mustering up the time and motivation for more knife vids! Do you have any shirts you can still order? Would love to get one
I love your videos! Thank you for taking the time to do all you do!
Pete,thanks for all the work you put into these videos!
Love a Cedric & Ada comparison cut test ! Gotta admit I'm glad for the pace of uploads, just want you to take care of yourself. It's a marathon not a sprint !
Quietcarry waypoint.
When does your carpal tunnel wrist brace review drop?
Thanks for this retention Test video - appreciate your time and effort
BTW - your spreadsheet is phenomenal
Really cool and interesting lighting, Pete.
Pete, what the hell do you do with that massive pile of rope cuttings? Maybe you could use it as stuffing for a 'Bricky' pillow... I'd buy one!
Enjoying your channel, not a EDC knife person though. However, I love to cook and have collected chef's knives over the years in different steels. You show cutting foods with a kitchen knife on your channel occasionally. Has your obsession with knife steels and knife design carried into the kitchen? If so, please share. What would be a good stress test for kitchen knives?
That was quite some set of knives that left a huge pile of cut sisal! Looked like you'd sheared a flock of sheep!
I am blessed to have a Sandrin Torino and a couple of PM2’s in Maxamet. I use them almost exclusively for light tasks and the edge retention is alien like. These are all factory out of box edges. I love your channel but would it be your opinion those two I mentioned above are BY FAR the best factory edge knives? Thank you.
How do you sharpen that tungsten carbide knife? Brought it to a professional sharpener and he couldn't really do much, it doesn't even cut printer paper properly.
Thank you for doing this test! Man the Waypoint is a beast of a knife. Well, maybe beast isn't the right word but that's just awesome it could do that much compared to the competition. It's also imo the most beautiful of many knives in terms of design.
I’ve been really enjoying all of your videos lately! Thanks!
Hey. Have you ever considered making a micarta like material out of the “twisted sisal”?
Would be a funny video, maybe.
Love the channel.
Thank you Pete..! I live for this shttt..!! ☠️
Sincerely hope they make the Waypoint in a slightly larger variant. I’ve carried it for right at 3 years, I can’t find a knife that gives me a reason to replace it.
I wish more knives used the wire clip instead of sculpted Ti.
Have you ever done the same knife multiple times in a row resharpening between to see if the results are uniform?
Is it true that you use all the cut up rope to make Caseprechaun beds?!?!
You need to make sisal rope micarta
Awesome, great after a day of work! Thank you Pete.
Do you think ...doing a max 100 cuts,...then doing a BESS sharpness test ...would reflect the same results or are there wild card variables?...save your shoulder some grief maybe-meh- either way , love the channel, cheers m8
You're only testing a single point on the knife. Perhaps you could do like 3 points (front, middle, back) on the edge to reduce RNG.
Cutting through paper gives you a better overall picture of the sharpness of the edge.
Rooting for the superclean vanax or cpm m4, just because those are the 2 knives I prefer out of these options
Pete! You are awesome 🎉🎉🎉 love from Mercia watched you for years I am so happy you are you keep being an amazing human
Can I ask where you buy your knife mate? As you know. It's hard to find a decent deal here in Australia
ooh ooh
K390 and REX45??
Elemax, maby..
Dang man, I feel like you must hate your poor forearms 😂.
Happy to see Quietcarry's Vanax crushing it. I love that knife!
I will say, the one downside of this format is how it ends up depicting M4.
Ideally, right, you could put a more aggressive edge on it, since it has so much greater toughness than M390.
Overall, I love to see this direct head to head for knives.
As much as I'm a steel geek, it's great to see how other factors (like the companies heat treat and blade geometry) end up affecting the performance.
Holy crap I never knew the playback was 1500% speed. I just always thought when you played music you just cut super quick. The lie I have been living.
I watch your videos just to see the Dogs and the Chickens…just kidding…love the comparisons and the humour. Just don’t give yourself tendinitis in the shoulder. Maybe a little different setup for cutting , possibly standing with the board a little lower,might help with the leverage. Anyway Cheers from Canada! Mike.
You make a lot of sisal chicken bedding there Pete.
Still love M4. K390 may eventually win me over but for now M4 is still the one for me. Between it, S90V, S30V/S35VN, 3V, CTS-XHP, 14C28N, AUS-10A and AUS-8A my bases are covered.
14c28n is no joke…and I have a Sandrin Torino and some PM’s in Maxamet.
@@wattsmichaele - yep. 14C28N has become my favorite budget steel. Great stuff! I actually forgot Maxamet. I prefer it over S90V actually.
Have you noticed any significant difference in ease of sharpness between Lionsteel and the other M390/20CV? I am guessing the plus side of the heat treatment would be a much easier sharpening for the Thrill. Thanks.
the lionsteel took a little longer cos the edge was fairly thick and needed to be taken down a little, but would be a slightly easier sharpen probably vs an identical knife blade in the spydie m390
No no no Pete boy. I just finished my 6th beer and I'm going to bed. You are potent as fck this year. I can't keep up.
Vielen Dank für deine Arbeit, ist stets hoch interessant!
Allerbeste Grüße aus Leipzig/Germany.......Peace,
Stephan 🙂
Say pete ol buddy why dont u have a showdown between maxamet magnacut and k390???
the world needs resin stabilized twisted sisal rope scales for the lander. make this happen! Take my money (but it's gotta be cedric&Ada brand)
Love the video, but why do you hate your shoulder so much?
lionsteel still not nailing the ht, at least it's not a 52rw debacle like with some of their older m390 knives
Love your content and I love you
You been taking videography lessons from Stefan Schmalhaus? Nice!
The bro science is strong with this one
You tha man Pete!
In the past you have gotten more cuts out of D2 than that LS M390 I believe.
Do you have any S90V to test?
I bet that CPM M4 would have cut longer if it was finished on a coarser stone
Thanks 🔥🔥🔥
Shit you look quite scientific in those new glasses!!!
wouldnt the grind affect the results? like if all different steels are ground at 600, some steel might perform better and others at mirror polish. what if the steels are ground dofferently to their most optimal? i think that would help
absolutely, I would wager a guess that M4 would have done better at a lower polish etc, previous tests I have done years ago indicate certain steels do better with a more grainy finish
wouldn't it be good if there was a cutting medium that could expose a difference in edge-holding with far fewer passes. like some-sorta gnarly sheet material that 440A could generally slice 1 time, VG-10 5 times and M390 13 times. just for the sake of edge-testers' joints and tendons.
Sure, look up dbks rope test. This test is practical for different reasons though. The results of this test are going to be more granular and allow tougher knives with higher edge stability a bit more of an advantage. It allows us to get a differernt view of edge retention while remaining comparable to his previous testing.
@@Freakmaster480 indeed, well said.
Pete might be the only guy on the planet with significantly more muscle mass on his right arm that isn’t a direct bi-product of “self love”.
🤣
Knife talk and rpg music? It's like you made this channel just for me
I have to think there might be too many inconsistencies in this test because the blade hitting the cutting board cannot be equal all the time
Vanax, yum. 15V test soon?
yes, I am jonesing for the brown BBB runs
Isnt lionsteel known for softer steel ?
Not ever heard this question asked yet .
Pete have you ever had to start over because you lost count . Or is that why you video the tests .
I picked the spyderco
Heck yeah
Same angle maybe, but what about thickness behind the edge ? Different knives have different geometries, so your protocol doesn't exactly test for steels, more for knives and makers heat-treat. But you know it, and I am not saying that it's not useful. Maybe I am wrong and thickness doesn't play such a role in rope cutting?
For god sake, do something like a 2 inches rope at least, we need you with both arms to continue enjoying your fun channel haha! Maybe ask us money to buy a catra (open debate : "standard catra is way too abrasive" )
Țo be scientifically correct it should be one knife with same blade shape but different steel. Edge retention and performance depend on a lot of factors like blade thiknes, shapes etc...
Ok hear me out get rid of the tanto on the bailout!!! Grind that point away! I did a month ago and never looked back it’s way better!
they certainly cut the paper in the beginning.
vibin
So Maxamet is outdated 😢
Sweet vid, broham. As you mentioned, CPM-M4 doesn’t really do that well with a polished edge. One of these days, it would be interesting to see what it could do with a 600 grit finish. I’d wager it could get into the high 700 range, maybe even 800. Maybe I’m a cunt. Who knows?!
Um... since when is 725 an even number and 720 isn't?
The ff7 esque music …
Arm_pains=true
I haven't been through the video but the Lion Steel will lose. Even the Vanax will beat it. Lion Steel posted heat treat is about half what they state it is.:)
The lionsteel is 60rc. Its low performance because of the way the heat treat protocol is performed. Watch a vid called microstructure matters.
Second
Sisal = Sai sall Long I. Just sayin' LOL
third