How Stranger Things' SFX Artists Created Vecna | Vanity Fair
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- Stranger Things makeup designer and visual effects artist Barrie Gower breaks down the extensive work that went into bringing season 4's gruesome villain Vecna to the screen.
Season 4 Volume 1 of Stranger Things is currently available and streaming on Netflix; Season 4 Volume 2 of Stranger Things releases July 1.
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I 100% thought they used another actor to voice Vecna.
Hearing Jamie talk in his voice while in the makeup chair genuinely gave me chills.
I DID TOO! I was shocked watching this that he was also in the suit/ voicing vecna lmfao
wait when do we hear him do the vecna voice ? :0
@@vuzemy I love you 😭
Jamie do kinda have a flare for the dramatic if you look at his castings he was great in this for sure
@@vuzemy I agree! I'm hoping Vecna returns for the final season because he's by far the best and most interesting villain in ST Lore.
Like the mind flayer kinda pales in comparison.
I love the fact that Vecna has two different sized hands. Just like a clock.
That’s a cool observation 🤙🏾
Oh, wow, I never thought of that!
Very good observation! Also I think it's an Homage to Freddy Krüger
It’s definitely moreso an homage to freddy Krueger
Joe Manganiello stole the hand in 2019.
Jamie's performance is no doubt phenomenal, but knowing the fact that it took six+ hours everyday all just to turn him into Vecna and that Jamie didn't even say a word complaining about the costume and how challenging it is not only to play in it but simply move and do some basic stuff, just proves he is more than a 'great' actor. Props to him!
it really takes to be more than actor to do that kinda thing, they have to be really determined with the right mindset because Jamie said he had to go through meditations to be able to have the vecna costume for several hours without feeling like he was suffocating,the same thing jim carrey did for the grinch
the thing hurts is that , all of this prosthetics are going to conceal his expressions . I want him to win Emmy but that would only be possible if he does acting in his original face .
Well he gets payed alot of money, imagine doing that for minimum wage 🤦
i’m sure the money he makes is well worth it
Yeah! I was also going to say he deserves major props!
THE WAY THEY DIDN'T CGI VECNA IS SO AWESOME. MY RESPECT FOR THE CREATIVITY AND EFFORT FOR THIS SHOW 😭
They definitely used CGI! And it takes same amount of skills. Only good thing is that the actors confronting him where actually scared hahah
@@KiKiArtWorks ofc they used cgi but for only the moving in the vines something on vecna’s neck so it will be realistic but overall they made the sculpture with barehands 👏
@@mcli3n For sure they made the whole character in CGI. Look at the transformation shots for example. Where a human is turned into Vecna, there are so many. And that's high class CGI.
It's a mixture of both art forms.
@@KiKiArtWorks did you watch the video? It’s 90% practical effects and 10% CGI
@@KiKiArtWorks bruh they created it in computer and recreated it in real life
I remember hearing Jamie cried after his last scene, and for only being on set for around 20 days he really connected with this role. By seeing the process you can tell why. He literally watched himself transform into a different being for 8 hours a day like an Animorph book or something
He is exceptional actor , Wish he get more starring roles .
Seems like a spoiler
@@ckl6213 How is that a spoiler? Common sense tells you that Vecna will likely be defeated at the end of season 4.
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Yeah, I thought about that after I commented. I mean clearly the show can't go on forever lol
Reminds me of crying after removing the old man makeup I had to apply in my senior year, because I really loved the character I played. He was a fun loving, but wizened, old man, so I had to color my hair white and had age lines done through a black makeup pencil. It’s not uncommon for actors to feel attached to their characters, like Mark Hamill and Luke Skywalker, at any level.
Hollywood in general should start using more of a mix between pratical effects and CGI really great job on how Vecna came out.
You don´t know how expensive this is and how many people worked on Vecna.
Netflix is broke af.
CGI is not the proper term. A CGI is an image or series of images that is made completely by VFX artists. Visual effects is the mixture of CGI and real footage.
Agree 100%
@@v4led VFX is just as or even more expensive than practical effects
@@Bduckie13 no way. Practical effects, ironically, is way less practical to use.
Vecna's practical effects are incredible. What Jamie went through is insane though. Hearing his deeper Vecna voice in costume is neat
period stan melodrama
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I wish he danced as Vecna in the makeup room, the meme potential would be massive
Honestly I was thinking the same thing, lol
That would have been very uncomfortable for Jamie as he said he had enough trouble sitting in it
lmfao 😭
Like if he did a pennywise jig lol?
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I really hope that Vecna continues to be the main villain for season 5. It really feels as though the kids are in danger with him. He’s a great addition to the lore/story!!
Yeah I agree. I feel like he will be the final villain
Pretty sure the mind flayer will be the big boss.
I feel like the finale of s4 will be like Avengers infinity war
@@metalcollection1 yeah they said that vecna is just one of his henchmen
Ikr? He totally has final boss vibes
Jamie deserves every award there would be to give for this season. He did an absolutely outstanding job as Vecna, not only acting as him but going through the creation process of the SFX as well.
its not sfx.
@@leduckified1534 yes it is. Prosthetics and applying any sort of makeup to create a character is included in the special effects(SFX) category of film/entertainment production.
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Okay, so in your stupid little mind (which isn't much), you think he deserves every award for sitting in a chair and doing absolutely nothing. Just goes to show how fuckin stupid you are and the 2.1k people that liked your comment
@@leduckified1534 did you even watch the video?
Major kudos to the prop department on creating a scary Vecna costume. It definitely must have been super uncomfortable for Jamie to wear, though!
@bankstt No one cares scammer. GET LOST!!!
Special FX Makeup Department, not Costume or Props 😉
A lot of the ppl in the cast said he didn’t complain
@@marianne22222 So Jamie likes wearing it for 7hrs feeling very hot and uncomfortable?
@@CrimsonRoblox Ofc not! 😂 I was just saying I heard that in interviews… it’s cool that he’s committed to the biggest role he ever had
The voice isn’t edited??? That’s very impressive
So did he actually do the voice on set and left it? Or did he do the voice but they overlayed a studio recorded version on top?
I’m sure it was added in post
@@mehaletshibre8952 yeah most likely, but it’s still impressive he can do it the same way it sounds rather than them getting a voice actor or using tonnes of effects
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@@rickbgrimes yeah in the actual show it has a sort of reverb-heavy omnidirectional sound that i dont think they could get without edited adr (or maybe editing the onset dialogue and adding in other sounds so its only applied to his voice?)
At this point I’m convinced they built an actual upside down
They did actually, some of it is cgi but most of it is a built set.
There should be a real tour for it!
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The fact that Jamie did the Vecna voice got me-😭
Also this makes me so proud and more appreciating of the people behind the scenes to make everything onset flawless.
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I need to see Jamie's playlist, stat.
@@ealing456 I know he’s one of the “ head “ vampires in Twighlight and he’s also in the movie “ The Mortal Instruments, the city of bones “
I can’t remember what else he’s in, but he’s an amazing actor, I didn’t even realise who he was in Twighlight until it was pointed out.
I honestly thought Jamie just wore a motion tracking suit and animators drew Vecna on top of him because this prosthetic looks so unreal. Props to all the makeup/SFX artists for making such a cool character design come to life.
Same I’m impressed
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Same here
Same here
Vecna is one of hollywood's best villans. mad respect to stranger things and the people behind it!
honestly can't wait for vol.2
Same
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*atlanta's best.
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ur username and pfp 😭
Loved that they got Robert England as the father on the show, with Vecna being Freddy's spiritual son/successor. Using guilt instead of fear to taunt his victims.
Robert Englund is the perfect cast for the role... Freddy Krueger being the father of Vecna
We can believe a resemblance as well. Both the young adult 001 looks like a perfect blend of the mother and father casted.
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Wow, someone finally with a original thought. Not "omg it's everythingg"
I actually cheered when the credits came and confirmed it was him, such a cool full circle moment
The fact that Jamie wasn’t in any of the press tours or interviews because of spoilers is so sad because he is a great actor and deserves all the respect
I’m sure he doesn’t mind now given the great reception and praise he got for the role, now he’s doing interviews and fun videos
I did not know Jamie actually was under the Vecna suit AND he did the voice for Vecna. Wow he’s amazing. He deserves an Emmy for sure.
I think it's amazing that Vecna was 100 procent Jamie! He could've easily asked for a body double to do these straining scenes with the costume on, but he did it all by himself, even the voice!
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Creel’s eyes are so well done, it was really tough to look at when I was watching that episode
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I really did think that they has a voiceover! I did not have a single clue that Jamie really did talk. Its so incredibly amazing to hear and see that an actor who has a rather light voice can get it to be so deep and mysterious.. It is so incredible and I can't imagine another actor ever play this role. The Duffer brothers really outdid themselves!
And on top of it all, Jamie is such a good actor and I really think that he should have more movies where he is the lead role..-
Jamie has such talent and when he gets a role, he really gets himself and his mindset to be that very different person, his personality completely changes and you cant recognize the sweet and fun guy we see in the interviews!
This is such a cool thing to watch, the progress that they all had to go through to make such a realistic creature- make him come to life, it is so amazingly done, making Vecna come to life and get him to look so real. Making us see the hate and possibly the pain Vecna might have felt, it all becomes so real!
-Well I don't think anyone is going to read this, but this is something I needed to say when I got the chance. This has been a good season of Stranger Things, and I really hope to see more of the cast and Jamie/Vecna...:)
I think he could only do the voice like that, because he's also a really good singer and knows how to modulate his voice to extremes.
@@DRT813 tbh I tried to do that voice today and sounded like an idiot lol
@@user-nf9xm7is3m Me and my mom tried doing Vecna's voice too, we sounded terrible, lol!
@@user-nf9xm7is3m lmao
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JAMIE AS VECNA IS EVERYTHING CAUSE HE’S FINALLY GETTING THE RECOGNITION HE DESERVES
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It's everything? Including bad 👎
Man the props department did an amazing job with Vecna! I hope they win some awards bc they deserve it
@@eleanorcannings9054 He and his team are amazing!
I hope so, too. Vecna is so creepy & yet beautiful. Truly, it’s a masterpiece.
I knewww vecna remind me of got
@@eleanorcannings9054 hope he gets featured for more prostethics in different movie, I was shocked when I found out Vecna isn't CGI
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Y’all need to realize that practical effects are indeed time consuming and expensive but they’re also well worth it to a certain extent. The Duffer Brothers wanted to go this direction with Vecna because it would allow the actors to see this scary monstrous creature and their reactions to it would be a lot more natural rather than staring at a ball pretending something is there. For those saying VFX is a lot cheaper. It’s actually not.
Yepp for a horror thriller genre genuine fear is important, millie who played El was literally crying when doing first shooting with vecna
@@alyss4192 it brings that raw emotion out in the actors which just makes it even more powerful. Personally I think the film IT is the best example for this.
@@HunterMcDowall I was about to mention IT too till I saw this comment. They literally didn't show IT till acting out the scenes so the fear was genuine
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No. Neither way is cheap. I'm studying computer animation and honestly.. it's one of the hardest things I've ever done. And the same programs we use for it is part of what's used for the VFX
Vecna snatched that glossy everyday look 💅🏾💕 our dark king💀
I love that he had his own makeup palette - MAC cosmetics get on board and give us Vecna style at Sephora!
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D R just borrow amber heards bruise kit
Not only did they do such a great job with Jamie but I also think that they did an absolutely phenomenal job on Robert. It always made me kind of uncomfortable when I saw his eyes because of the goo or whatever but I think that's what really makes it sell for me. The fact that they can do so well with these guys' makeup is just incredible!
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Ok good to know I'm not the only one who squirmed a little at seeing Victor Creel's eyes.
That's honestly the best prosthetic I've ever seen. Even on the closest of close-ups it looks real. Like absolutely 100% real.
When I saw Vecna, I thought “Man, I don’t envy the actor who had to wear *that* prosthetic.” I had no idea he was the same actor who played One. It’s even more impressive that Vecna’s creepy voice is mostly his!
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I'm very impressed by the voice. I had assumed it was a digitally altered voice, and sure, they added some bombastic boom to it but the actual core of it really is the actor doing it himself which is straight up respect worthy.
5:08 whoa, so he really was doing the voice. I thought it was just his regular voice run through a barrage of filters, but it looks like at least that deep, guttural growl was naturally produced.
He did record overdubs for the voice so it's louder and clearer but yeah the voice is all him. Apparently the guys in the studio bought in all sorts of equipment they were planning to use to distort his voice and make it sound scary for the overdubs and he was like "nope, we don't need those".
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@@MxMoondoggie hope we see him in voice acting as well in the future.
I love how they took this approach instead of just immediately resorting to CGI
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I'm betting that Jamie's hand didn't hurt after wearing the prosthetic hand compared to everyone else's because he's a guitar player
I know nothing about this man but my thought was something along those lines. Cool to know I was right. lol
He just didn't complain i think, literally hours wearing it
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The actor who played Henry/Vecna did an incredible job... especially the scenes of him in human form in the lab. Incredibly unsettling the way he spoke to eleven, I felt seriously bad for him at first too, very manipulative and convincing.
i need to see jamie in full vecna get up but not in character at all 😭
Check twitter there are lot of memes are going on 😭
have you seen the picture where he’s sipping Starbucks while in makeup
ive seen the memes but i want to see his personality through it my brain cant even imagine it
Imagine him doing his insane in the membrane insane in the brain dance in the vecna get up lmao 🤣
@@ninbugs Same!!! I wanna hear his British accent come out of that scary thing, that would bring much joy
There's no way I could wear prosthetics like that, at all, nevermind for hours and hours. I think I'd have a panic attack with all that stuck to me.
same. you have to be very dedicated to your role to put up with that for sure
Thats why he is so amazing, truly professional.
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i’ve been following jamie’s acting career since 2013 and have seen him preform with his band several times since then. when i heard he was going to be in stranger things i knew there had to be more to his character than they were suggesting. i’m so happy he’s finally getting the recognition he deserves!
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finally hearing someone’s thoughts on who have seen him grow !! that’s literally so amazing oh my god I wish I knew of him then 😫
Agreed! He was so perfect as Caius in Twilight. He can definitely do villain well. A very talented actor, performer, and artist overall indeed.
Jamie is insane for this, huge props to him
No wonder Vecna looked so good! It really works well when it's not a 100% CG. It's a great mix of practical and digital effects
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It's been something of an unspoken rule since the beginning of Stranger Things that practical effects should be used as much as possible. I'd imagine this actually makes certain scenes harder to set up and film but we hugely appreciate the mammoth effort that goes into production.
Can't say I'm surprised that Robert Englund was making suggestions to the artists when they were making him up as Victor Creel. A huge part of his acting career has involved prosthetics and make-up, so it would be weird if he hasn't learned a thing or two about it!
Practical effects and sets are amazing but that requires lot of money which is a privilege only few people get. Many don't have the budget to make things for real and have to rely on post production to get things done. Making movies and shows is not easy. If you don't have a money problem, every filmmaker will make things practically as much as possible.
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Yep, when it comes to grotesque and horror Robert is a living legend, he was Jamie sitting around while some of the best of this craft did their thing, he probably can talks hours about all the creative solutions he witnessed over the years.
Vecna is really intriguing and terrifying to look at in the show. Also Robert Englund make up looked real good!
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So awesome that they created Vecna with actual practical effects and prosthetics. Don't think he would have been as genuinely terrifying if he'd just been CGI.
The fact it's real and is also played by Jamie Campbell Bower, gives it way more authenticity.
Like he's a creature that could actually be real.
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Jamie made THAT voice himself?!!! Incredible!!!!! I thought they added some special effects in addition to his real voice!!
Incredible practical effects mixed with an amazing performance. It will stand the test of time unlike CGI only monsters
Why do people have such a problem with cgi-only monsters again?
@@venerexate1841 well it’s not that necessarily, we just prefer something real and tangible over something that’s made in a computer. Don’t get me wrong, CGI monsters can be good when don’t right, but most of the time they aren’t as threatening as the real deal. Just look at how successful The Thing was in 19&2; all of the effects for the monster were practical.
@@venerexate1841 Personally, I like practical effects for monsters because it makes the creature look more believable. It is also easier for actors/actresses to interact with them.
@@venerexate1841 going forward cgi-only won't be bad, given the fact that current day cgi is advanced enough to look lifelike, but cgi monsters always used to look like crap, any movie/show before 2010 just looks like crap. look at the horrible dwayne johnson mummy scene, or the older xmen movies where wolverines claws are at twice the rendering resolution of the rest of the scene making it look like super obvious cgi
@@sammyexx oh, yeah totally. Practical effects were a much better Idea before VFX software took over.
Hearing about all this with how Jamie handled it, he is an absolute beast. It's amazing how commited he is and how he didn't complain or anything negative. Kudos to you Jamie.
Imagine carrying 22-33lbs of prosthetics on your head and shoulders (and more weight throughout each body part),have dentures and white contacts after 8hours of application and still having to put your energy into acting 💀
I could never 😭The full sclera contact lenses alone would kill me after 10 hours of shooting.
For millions of dollars I’m sure it’s worth it lol
@@Jiranu5000 Millions of dollars is very likely overestimating it, he wasn't even in every episode.
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CGI can never replace how good practical effects look, glad they went with them for this character. It's also better for the actors performance when he's actually there looking like that and they aren't reacting to a person in a green suit with a funny helmet and sensors all over them. Some of the actors were genuinely scared when working with him, Millie Bobby Brown actually cried the first time she did a scene with him because it freaked her out so much.
Mad respect for everyone involved in this. Such an amazing villian, so terrifying!
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Talk about a dieing art being kept alive. This crew is amazing and I hope to see them tackle other projects in the future.
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"because of the character, Jamie liked to listen to some quite aggressive, quite intense, death metal, it would be quite hard core"
I think that may just be his taste in music considering he was the lead guitarist/ vocalist in Counterfeit...😂
This is why Face Off was one of my favorite shows. Such an amazing, beautiful artwork to do what these individuals do.
Omg I forgot about that show! I loved watching it!!!
I loveeeed that show! Miss it so much.
The power of Art & how they bring it on screen with such perfection. Just amazing. :)
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Jamie was completely unrecognizable and did such an amazing job, but I love how they managed to get Robert to play Victor Creel. The duffer brothers must’ve been squealing like little girls when they found out he was on board. He’s such a staple actor in the horror genre.
Hear me out: Vecna is going to go down as one of the most iconic villains ever, especially if they use him more after this season.
Most iconic ever😭😭😭
I literally thought it was CGI watching the show, but seeing how they used SFX make up like they used to do is so refreshing.
I hope they have some sort of footage where Jamie is doing his Vecna voice in his costume and then the AD comes in to ask if he wants coffee and Jamie would become Jamie again. I think it would be interesting to see the contrast between the character and the actor.
omg. I would love to see outtakes/bloopers with Vecna.
I KNEW IT WAS HIS VOICE knowing Jamie's voice is naturally deep to deepen it shouldn't be that hard to do for him which makes it so awesome
i never knew jamie was the one doing the deep voice too omg that was insane
It's not just that they literally got the same people that did the Night King, it's not just that they made a completely malleable suit paired with only the right amount of CGI needed, it's not only that they actually used the same actor for both Vecna and Henry, it's that they did it all. They literally did everything right to create something horrifically beautiful. Dude hats off like beyond hats off.
Fr, and you can see how much passion went behind every little aspect.
The dedication, calculations, passion, and love that go into creating these prosthetics are truly outstanding, everyone who had a hand in crafting Vecna's terrifying look y'all have my utmost respect and admiration. Stranger Things 4 lived up to my wildest expectations and I'm so thrilled for Vol 2!
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Love hearing a professional passionately talk about their craft
I knew Jamie was under the prosthetic but I had no idea he was the voice of Vecna!! That's awesome
Did they edit the voice
@@serenitybeats1677 nope im pretty sure they just made it echo, but the deepness is all jamie
My jaw dropped when I heard him muttering in the Vecna voice. He can REALLY transform. And kudos for him doing it entirely physically covered - body, teeth, and all.
Jamie needs an emmy for this right now🤦🏻♂️
One of the best examples of a great collaboration between artists and an actor to bring a creature/being to life. Some performances can be limited because the aesthetics of a person can interrupt the suspension of disbelief. Looks may even pigeon hole actors into roles so it is amazing to hear Jamie be able to transcend and show his skill.
how can jamies voice go that deep its crazy
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Bro I genuinely thought Vecna was animated when I first started watching. When I learned that it was an actual person playing him it totally wrinkled my brain. Like the talent some people have is ridiculous.
The makeup artist fangirling over Robert is adorable.
No matter how many times and different versions of this whole process I watch. I'm so amazed and impressed by the efforts put in. The whole team behind it, Jamie, the other show staffs.. Respect..🙌
And this is why practical effects are so important. Too much cgi would've made this character less terrifying so this was a perfect balance.
I wish the same would've been applied to the other creatures
I was absolutely convinced it was Robert Englund voicing Vecna until halfway through my second viewing of season 4 and I was absolutely FLOORED to find out it wasn't him.
I am super impressed with the whole team... ideas.. putting it together and also for Jamie to carry it....!!!
as soon as i saw one in the laboratory i was like, “is that jamie campbell bower??”
everyone on here is commenting about how great of a performance he did, but not a lot of people realize just how much.
not only was he doing a voice for vecna, but he was doing an american accent on top of it all. jamie is british. his american accent, even just as one and not vecna, was incredible.
I love how much the SFX artist raves about Jamie
Jamie Campbell Bower is so talented to pull this off. I hope he gets more roles
they should do a video on how the characters had to be killed/crunched and bts on it.
Vecna isn't only iconic, it's legendary. Love how dark this season is.
i can’t believe jamie did vecnas voice
I was so so excited to find out this was SFX and not CG !! I hope this special art never dies. Vecna is truly is a masterpiece
This actor better go places , wow🤯
this stuff is so interesting. the craftsmanship that goes into doing this is insane. it's art.
I really respect that they used mostly practical!
he’s one of the best villains ever created.
jamie is such a talented actor. so impressive. he really deserves all the recognition he’s been getting lately.
Jamie is so awesome and the design team is so amazing. So much respect that this isn't all CGI.
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Props to everyone involved in this process, they absolutely killed it!
The fact Jamie didn't need a voice modifier is amazing
You guys did an amazing job with both characters, immediately when I saw them I could tell how well they were done practically with minor digital. Loved them both.
Seriously this show is just unmatched.
Props to the SFX artists and Jamie for this masterpiece.
I never expected that to be Jamie’s actual voice.
The combined creativity to bring this character alive is amazing … the amount of talent is another story totally inspiring
LOVE practical effects and seeing the behind the scenes of how Vecna and Victor Creel were made. Can't get enough Stranger Things content right now!
I’ve been waiting for this video! It’s so fascinating! Jamie Campbell Bower did a fantastic job, ST4 is incredible! Can’t wait for V2!!
Amazing job! IMO practical effects will always look better than CGI, so I'm very happy they decided to go this way. And kudos to Jamie for going through with it!
I didn’t even realize it was Jamie made up as vecna. I thought they’d used a different actor for the vecna parts.
This is incredible! The amount of detail and care that was put into these costumes it must’ve been tedious but a lot of fun to create especially the Vecna prosthetic.
Also you can’t tell at all that Robert has a prosthetic over his face, I mean I know he does but you can’t see the lines at all. It’s absolutely incredible
Props to Jamie for enduring the experience and still managing his great performance :D
I’m going to be honest. When he appears on the screen for the first time, I was extremely scared. And it reminded me of when I was a kid and how I would be scared of certain things. And for each time the character came into view, I would think what I would do in that scenario. That’s how much it scared me. I couldn’t handle that in real life. I would start hyperventilating and crying- seriously. Congrats of scaring the crap out of me.
It’s wonderful when the creatives get to share their knowledge and expertise. The fact this was all prosthetics is amazing. Such a painstaking process, but it pays dividends. Both characters look incredible on screen.
These are some extremely top tier practical effects.
You know you did a perfect job when your suit can stand up to extreme close-ups just constantly.