Exactly,and that's what makes him likable. The media doesn't seem to get that people just DON'T GIVE A FUCK about them. Jokic is a guy who just wants to play a game,be the best and get paid for it. It's his job. Most fans just want to watch the game itself, without all the ancillary drama. ESPN and Fox have basically become TMZ for sports - so much so,that TMZ itself launched a sports division . This channel is the best exception to the rule that I've seen, because WhatSlaps doesn't shit on the players,nor does he create this classist narrative that turns fans against players like most sports media does.
He’s a miserable brute. He should be more grateful he’s a millionaire off of a ball game, and stop drudging around as if he’s doing slave labor. Smiling isn’t so hard when ur in the 1% of wealth
Jokic is a 9-5 employee that happens to be one of the best employees the company has ever seen but he doesn't want all that noise. He will do overtime when needed for the team but he will also always look forward to going home to his loving family.
video idea: nba player development. Good player development, bad player development, players that were rushed too quickly and suffered because of it, etc
Kobe taught us being obsessed can get you far. Jokic is teaching us that you can also have work life balance. There’s no way you get to that level without passion and lots of hard work. But Jokic also knows what to cut out of his life.
@@esco21tube why does every NBA fan make every topic about the all time rankings? I could have just as easily said Kevin Garnett taught us “ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE” Or Dirk taught us about resilience. Or do you honestly believe only the top 10 players of all time have anything to say about success?
@@joelman1989 and the both of those guys that you mentioned Jokic hasn’t reached yet. Those guys have really been through real wars. They would get ejections in a series against todays nuggets, and today’s nuggets would’ve been swept by them in their era. The NBA doesn’t have the same edge anymore, nor does defense matter. Anyone can make it to the finals now. And you just watched the finals. It was a boring series
@@esco21tube I don’t understand what the rule set from today’s NBA has to do with Jokics approach to basketball. Pretty sure he’d be fine in any era he’s center and almost 300 lbs. he’s already on Drike level to me. And I have KG a lot higher than most so he’s got a while to get to his level but I wouldn’t be surprised if he did.
You cannot spot someone's personality by the depiction they show of themselves on TV. Only people chronically on social media think that way. Years ago people were talking about how gentle Will Smith or R Kelly was. Until you find out what they did behind the scenes. Nickelodeon is such a nice friendly channel until you find out what those actors did behind the scenes. Karl Malone was a wonderful babysitter. Until you found out what he really did to her while babysitting. The NBA covered it up
Never thought I would here a term like "cognitive dissonance" in a vid about the nba. It's really cool that you add level of psychology and introspection to a realm of media that is often devoid of that kind of stuff.
I really wish I had something more to say other than I love your content. It's nice to see this level of analysis of everything around the game. Also the editing. Gotta love your jump cuts 😂. Thanks!
The segment on Michael is quite literally why Kwame Brown's career was a disaster He wanted to use that draft pick and make a big splash, and used it on a HS player in hope he would develop THEN unretired and relentlessly bullied a player who was barely more than a child and stifled his development even more (because the team went from "we'll develop Kwame and around Kwame" to "we need to win now" overnight after Michael unretired)
Kwame does not even consider Lebron as good human being either. Check his channel. Kwame is verbal about the fake fraudulent nature he says represents Lebron James
Those "happy" players are generally doing a fake social media image for gullible people. Its why its a big deal for modern players being "exposed." Guys like Iverson were straight up. Not fake, you got the real Iverson directly
If you are just "happy" to play basketball like Jordan Poole you get shown up. The average player only lasts 4 seasons. Yet its the superstars that are there longer. It doesnt mean that one loves the game more. Some are better. KD can load manage, barely play 60 games, but he is simply superior to most players. Whether they like the game of basketball or not. Kwame Brown loves and loved being an NBA player. He says the NBA was "scripted" against him but scripted to favor Lebron and Luka Doncic, etc. Love of the game means nothing, thats fake. Chances are all of them love NBA in some way. Not everyone can be that level
@@VanessaWong-yi5pe But kd worked to that spot. Players like ben simmons and deandre ayton are already contempt with their careers even though they were #1 picks. Ayton said he has nothing left to prove.
Jokic did imply he doesnt enjoy playing basketball or the NBA. *But Jokic made it explicitly clear that he isnt playing a fake character for NBA social media. And Jokic doesnt care if that makes him less popular.* And yet Jokic is the best player in the league. Best player in the last 2 decades atleast
In the last twenty years we have seen LeBron, Kobe, Tim Duncan, Steph, KG, Shaq and so many other all time greats. Jokic career ain't over, let him get a few rings, maybe an MVP or two more, than we can maybe talk about him being in the conversation of a top 3 player since 04.
This channel and the shorts channel (with the long free flow videos) are amazing, you’re one of the best recent finds for nba content, keep it up man you’re going places
Hey been following for a bit now and I just have to say the perspective you approach basketball with is awesome. I think the personhood of players often gets lost since they’re part of a product that we consume and enjoy and want to keep consuming and enjoying. I think videos like this one or the one about gambling do a really good job of centering that and understanding the game as an avenue of human expression and not “product.” At least, that’s my takeaway. Hope the channel continues to grow, thanks for the vids
Thanks! That's how I like to look at sports. I feel like everyone enjoys sports docs and learning about athlete's stories, so might as well do it in real time.
Video idea: Video about NBA "glue guys". Maybe go over what a glue guy is, how they contribute to winning teams, and how the NBA values them in terms of contracts.
Bro great stuff. I think it would be interesting to talk about players who turn into stars and all the ways they had to improve their game to get there. I think it’s easy to look at stars like these finished products who were always that good when we forget that what makes them so great is all the tiny aspects of their game they honed in to become the players that we see them as now and assume they always were. (Example: Embiid and his midrange, Anthony Edward’s defense, idk there’s probably a bunch more. Those might not even be the best examples of what I’m talking about. Honestly there’s probably at least one for every player if you look closely)
OMG I really love the description of the video!!!! English is not my firts language so, It is difficult follow you, you talk very quick but with the captions on the description I can catch more. I love your videos Keep going, hopefully someday I could understand the entire video wihout look at the captions THANKSSSSSSS
Lebron and Jordan came from entirely different eras. During the 1980s it was common for teammates to fight and conflict each other (says Isiah, who shrugged the Jordan Poole/Draymond Green punch saying its nothing compared to 1980s teammate conflict.) Today,,everyone acts extra nice for social media rules. And people freak out over a Kyrie Irving tweet that would be "normal" in the 1980s. But Lebron does curse out his Lakers quite a bit on court. And he does publicly blame his Lakers teammates for Lakers losses. Westbrook has described playing as Lebron as toxic. But this is a different era where most people act fake and nice nice for social media
@@whatslaps Bro i like this channel but have you been living under a rock for the last decade? Bron is one of the most toxic sport figures in NBA history. 90% of Bron's teammates either dont like playing with him or admit the unique challenges of doing so if they do like him Also The segment on Jordan was without context, not well researched, and seems to come from a LeBron fans' lense instead of an objective view of Jordan as a hooper Jordan may have been a "psycho" but he aint Bron aka the passive aggressive Psycho who throws tantrums on the court like a baby, throws teammates under the bus, shows up teammates on the court and never takes accountability You claim former teammates undeservedly "glaze" Jordan but ignore the fact that LeBron 's former teammates rarely talk positively about him. Telling the truth isnt "glazing" brosky
Damn man, content of this type should be from more famous channels, really underrated man. I do think this channel will blow up and become famous one day. Content’s the best!
Good video, great for opening interesting discussions. Two points: 1) The beef between MJ and Jerry Krause was not in one direction. Krause was extremely competitive himself and claimed that primarily, his work and the organization won championships, not Jordan and the team. He dismantled a dynasty only to prove he could put up a new team and win again, and he claimed that the first title without Jordan would erase the Jordan cult, proving it was the organization and not MJ that led Chicago to glory. Of course, that didn't happen, and it didn't happen because MJ was right and Krause was wrong: the players win, not the organization. If you think it this way, it was Krause the arrogant one and the bully in that environment, not MJ -who, after all, had already won the NCAA and two gold medals with the USA as a college player to Krause and Bulls' nothing. 2) People were not as "sensitive" in previous historical periods as they supposedly are today. Punching someone on the court or trash talk was not considered bad or a lack of love for the game. Jordan did nothing so different than other stars of that time. Barkley, whom you've shown as a happy man as compared to MJ's ultra-competitiveness, was, in fact, notorious for his trash-talking and bullying opponents and had several brawls. Also, Michael was everybody's dirty game primary target. I remember the "Mr. Cooper" TV series. Mr. Cooper has signed with the Golden State Warriors as a bench player. He returns home and says, "Today in practice, they had me as Michael Jordan." "That's amazing!" someone says. He responds: "Not really. They practiced how to foul him without the referees seeing it." PS. LeBron James suffers from narcissistic trauma. You hadn't got it before that record game because that's what happens with manipulative narcissists. His former teammates hate him. Look how Wade and Bosh ignored him in their HOF speeches while they praised MJ, Kobe, AI, and more. Or how Irving said the other day that the OKC series was the hardest he ever played, downplaying the GSW finals.
Video idea: Comparing the physicality of the sport throughout the decades. For awhile now it seems like if you tap a guy on the shoulder, its a foul and 2 free throws
I really like how you give an analysis of different players' psyche and kind of a window into their mentality. I've noticed you do it in a lot of your vids. Could you find a way to incorporate your personality analysis of the younger players in the league rn (Ant, Luka, SGA, Hali, Brunson)? Thanks!
@@whatslapsNo hes just a winner. Competitiveness is a great indicator of success. Dont judge people so harshly just cause their not contempt being as ordinary as you
@@whatslaps im not entirely sure that basketball itself is inherently fun to me. But seeing how I stack up to others and especially winning against others certainly is. This is not only a basketball thing, no matter what I do, the thing that is fun to me is being challenged by others and winning.
Buddy, I've seen just two of your videos, but you're pretty good. You're also a different style from a couple of other strong channels that I follow. I hope you get that uptick in viewership that you deserve.
@@whatslaps I actually crave more of this philosophical kind of analysis. Its rare to see. So i'm thankfull and now subscribed. Cheers from argentina.
I pretty much eat a corn dog every monday now, thanks to you ❤. I should call my mom now. But on a related note, ive been trying to tell people jokic loves basketball, he just hates the media attention and them trying to make him somebody that he isnt. He doesnt want to be this mega star. Hes just a normal dude with an insane basketball IQ. Im surprised to finally see him in commercials now, but given he just had a kid, i figured he is gonna get all the money he can to support his family. Hes got every chance to go wild and he just.. doesnt lol. Hard to hate the dude.
I’d like to see your take on what makes an NBA legacy great. Things like how someone’s style of play can change the NBA (Steph) or even how off-court contributions helps build the league and player legacies. Hell maybe even talk about players that become coaches like Kidd, Nash, Jerry West, etc change their legacies when they hang up the jersey
The last 2 minutes were amazing. U are clearly a passionate fan and can see beyond the bs of BR, HOH, ESPN. Just as Jokic does. Its a nice refresher to have a star who doesn't care what the media thinks bc at the end of the day it means nothing whether you get 5 mil likes on an insta story and whatactually matters is whether you are happy and satisfied with what you have achieved. This is the reason I also dont think Ben simmons is a good player. He lets the media and narratives get to him. he gets too caught up and he needs to start playing properly again. what is life without its mistakes. he needs to grow up and learn
Yeah, I know speculating a lot that's the way it seems to me. Maybe I'm reading into it too much. People definitely need to put more time into thinking about what they actually care about in life.
The question is,does Ben WANT to grow up? Or does he think,"I have everything I want- the money,the clothes,the parties,the celebrity girlfriend on my arm,the fame...WHY SHOULD I grow up?" I think he's got a bad case of the latter
Here's a real self indulgent idea I'd like to see entertained by people smarter than me: MJ's ideal was that his team should play the game to the level of intensity and precision that he was presenting, so what if they did? What's the final meta of NBA Basketball actually look like when half of the players, talented enough to get into the NBA, are doing everything right and the other half are all, at minimum, Luka or Kobe skills and practice wise.
I think there's nuance to it and the game is always evolving, so there's a base level of commitment and intensity. After the base level the time spent on the game had diminishing returns. (just riffing)
I usually dont watch watch nba content as usually theyre guys talking over b roll or something like that, but i actually take pause and watch your content because its al2ays a joy.
I read a Tiger Woods quote in a book I'm reading that demonstrates your point about MJ. He said "winning is great, but beating someone is better". I'm not sure what to call that type of personality honestly, except naybe "asshole". Much love from Miami!
I love the alternative take on a multitude of memes that get repeated in basketball and often get lost for what they really mean. Im sure we'll eventually get something about the goat convo too?
If you want to know more about Rick Barry shooting underhanded and why Wilt tried it and then quit, listen to Malcolm Gladwell's podcast Revisionist History, the episode titled "The Big Man Can't Shoot." It's about basketball, but it's also about good ideas and why they don't take hold. Best podcast episode I ever listened to. It's fascinating.
JJ Reddick is a business partner of Lebron. The podcast was not out of pure love for the game. It was both to push certain narratives as well as push for JJ Reddick to be a coach for the Lakers. Lebron has also arranged for Klutch Sports agents (Rich Paul) to directly try to influence the media for Lebron MVP voting. For a sum of cash. Lebron's actions are generally under the table but simply due to the social media era. You are not going to play with Lebron and have a fun field day walking in flowers. You are signing up to be a scapegoat. If you coach Lebrom you are highly likely to be FIRED by him. Faster than any player in history. Difference is, we are in a social media era where people are more protective of their images. The "love of the game" is nonsense with the constant coach firing and threats of player trading. Its just a social media image. And the JJ Reddrick podcast thing was a setup to get him as Lakers coach. Nothing more
I'm really fond of how Curry and Jokic treat basketball. Both of them just do their job as well as they could and get out to spend time with family or whatever other hobbies they have.
@@whatslaps They did, with that insane statlines, but the team can't keep up with the pace, tbf Murray can, but so inconsistent the whole series. that Nuggets team is in shambles.
I just think lebron and Kobe later in their career started to try to help better basketball and the nba as a whole. Lebron is just the most popular player in the league so I think they will feed his ego
That idea that KAT presents is kinda crazy. Never really thought about that but that is true, from as soon as you start in the league there is no stop. Next practice, next game, work harder, keep going, try and get better. Of course it's all in the (proper) spirit of competing and trying to progress and get better, but sheesh, sounds daunting. Jordan was another animal, his goat status (pun sorta intended) I think at least partially comes from his ruthlessness against opponents and teammates alike. His mentality and demeanor along with his off the charts skill and ability is what sets him apart in his own tier as the baddest to ever do it. To the point of your video, is this evil? I'm not sure. In a way I feel bad for someone who has this seemingly utter inability to enjoy what you're doing because perfectionism takes over and outweighs all else. Imagine being so good (and so competitive) at something that playing against the best in the world is not satisfying to you because you're not being challenged enough. The Bron and JJ stuff is interesting to me too, definitely seems to be a shift in mentality/approach to the game itself as a whole. Analytics vs "ooh he nice wit it" is a good comparison. Not sure I've ever heard a shoutout to Rick Barry in a hoops video, so good on you for recognizing game where most probably never even think to look. Good breakdown of Simmons, those points all seem to ring true. Poole appears to be a silly guy, yeah trying too hard to do/be what you can't. Jokic looks like a real cool dude, awesome talent, mad chill personality, keeping ego in check, just out there doing his (super talented) thing and then back to normal regular real life guy after the game is over. Thank you again broham, yo vidz iz tha nicest. Appreciate you fam, you know that.
I think Kobe and MJ were manipulators. I have a feeling he played a lot of psychological games with his teammates and opponents. He knew how to get into people's head. I think he also backed up his massive ego, which is pretty rare in sports now. A lot of guys will find a way explain their greatness, where Jordan made it so you couldn't deny it. I think Lebron is non-confrontational and it's cost him some finals. If Lebron had the Kobe/MJ mentality he would have brought more out of his teammates. Of course I'm totally speculating haha. I love the different personalities we have in the league now. Thanks for checking back in brother!
On how Ben Simmons is motivated by praise, how would you get rid of that? I struggle with that too and seeing it in a famous individual makes me worry abt how it could affect my future
Just understand where praise is coming from and what someone's motivations are for giving it to you. Don't let the need for approval dictate your life and your decisions.
I mean they stopped everything for steph too when he broke ray allens record and if you played 2k in the earlier years they would always do a stop when records are broken i just thought that was something they always did
I am not a competitive person and I've often wondered how people with a very strong drive to compete experience victory and defeat. My best friend is insanely competitive, even with stuff that doesn't really have any real stakes. For example when we are playing casual co-op video games his tendencies still pop up regularly, usually getting a little upset when we don't do as well as we could. He seems to get more enjoyment from winning than me but on the other hand he can spend a looong time ruminating on what could've been done differently etc. Maybe this is just a classic example of higher highs and lower lows and it all balances out but it still looks pretty stressful.
I'm a terribly sore loser, I don't get mad at the winner or try to change the rules or anything like that. But if I lose because I know I played bad, my mood is completely in the dumps. Winning on the other hand especially if I know I played well is the best feeling in the world no matter what I have won, even if it's just a card game against my grandparents or a game of beer pong against my friends.
@@whatslapsThere's entire hoops channels on TH-cam dedicated to slandering LBJ's career and it's so effing cringey. Look, MJ is the GOAT. Talk about it. Rave about it even. Just don't denigrate other players in the name of idolizing another. DreamersPro and AngryOldHoopsFan build their channels completely on hate and disrespect. As long as you steer clear of that ish, you've got me for life fam.
The Lebron breaking the scoring record isn’t egotistical in my opinion, it is more like a milestone he saw coming for a long time and just wanting to celebrate him achieving this milestone
Well he couldn’t catch Jordan in chips… so he knew he needed a different route to try and claim the goat throne . Didn’t work . We see through his stat padding
From using Kat as an example of being passionate, to being confused why player's dont use "true shooting percentage" because it has a negative effect on your game if you decide to use that instead of just how many shots taken in front of or behind the 3. You should try listening to what players are saying like on Gil's Arena
Mj isn’t a psychopath, psychopath’s don’t cry, psychopaths make people do things they would never do. MJ was obsessed with being the best, he has a gambling addiction, among many other flaws like most humans. Psychopaths don’t bring up such well adjusted kids that were unaware of their father’s greatness till they were way older. There is a difference.
With Jordan, his competitive nature is directly related to his ADHD. In his day, the only kids noticed with the condition were the hyperactive troublemakers. Jordan didn’t seem to display like that, I guess.
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Nikola likes basketball, what he don't like is NBA and the media around
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Exactly,and that's what makes him likable. The media doesn't seem to get that people just DON'T GIVE A FUCK about them. Jokic is a guy who just wants to play a game,be the best and get paid for it. It's his job. Most fans just want to watch the game itself, without all the ancillary drama. ESPN and Fox have basically become TMZ for sports - so much so,that TMZ itself launched a sports division . This channel is the best exception to the rule that I've seen, because WhatSlaps doesn't shit on the players,nor does he create this classist narrative that turns fans against players like most sports media does.
He definitely enjoys it. Been Simmons is a player who didn't love it. You can't get 3 MVPs without kinda liking the game.
He dont like foreign culture
He’s a miserable brute. He should be more grateful he’s a millionaire off of a ball game, and stop drudging around as if he’s doing slave labor. Smiling isn’t so hard when ur in the 1% of wealth
Jokic is a 9-5 employee that happens to be one of the best employees the company has ever seen but he doesn't want all that noise. He will do overtime when needed for the team but he will also always look forward to going home to his loving family.
I think he loves his work though. good boundaries
video idea: nba player development. Good player development, bad player development, players that were rushed too quickly and suffered because of it, etc
Great idea! There’s a few organizations that are great at that (spurs, heat, warriors, etc)
This would be super interesting
I need to send this to my friend who always says “wait till he develops” regardless of their age, skill set, and playstyle
That's great one
Sometimes my comments don't stick. Great idea
Kobe taught us being obsessed can get you far. Jokic is teaching us that you can also have work life balance. There’s no way you get to that level without passion and lots of hard work. But Jokic also knows what to cut out of his life.
exactly. Jokic isn't trying to force anything.
Jokic isn’t close to being a Kobe or even a Duncan yet. It’s too early for that
@@esco21tube why does every NBA fan make every topic about the all time rankings? I could have just as easily said Kevin Garnett taught us “ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE” Or Dirk taught us about resilience. Or do you honestly believe only the top 10 players of all time have anything to say about success?
@@joelman1989 and the both of those guys that you mentioned Jokic hasn’t reached yet. Those guys have really been through real wars. They would get ejections in a series against todays nuggets, and today’s nuggets would’ve been swept by them in their era. The NBA doesn’t have the same edge anymore, nor does defense matter. Anyone can make it to the finals now. And you just watched the finals. It was a boring series
@@esco21tube I don’t understand what the rule set from today’s NBA has to do with Jokics approach to basketball. Pretty sure he’d be fine in any era he’s center and almost 300 lbs. he’s already on Drike level to me. And I have KG a lot higher than most so he’s got a while to get to his level but I wouldn’t be surprised if he did.
Bro you deserve more subs. You are a breath of fresh air for NBA content.
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110% agree
The sound effects are hilarious
thanks brother! glad you dig the content!
Agree I followed him on TikTok a long time ago, but I deleted my acc and thought I’d never find him again… TH-cam is way better format
Jokic picking up a random kid looks menacing as fuck
haha, I know. I thought it was his son
Lol fr yk that kid was in pain 😅😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
You cannot spot someone's personality by the depiction they show of themselves on TV. Only people chronically on social media think that way. Years ago people were talking about how gentle Will Smith or R Kelly was. Until you find out what they did behind the scenes.
Nickelodeon is such a nice friendly channel until you find out what those actors did behind the scenes. Karl Malone was a wonderful babysitter. Until you found out what he really did to her while babysitting. The NBA covered it up
yeah that's true. I'm actually working on a karl malone video in the background now.
Karl Alonem
Tell us what is covered up so we can know
Never thought I would here a term like "cognitive dissonance" in a vid about the nba. It's really cool that you add level of psychology and introspection to a realm of media that is often devoid of that kind of stuff.
yeah man, I'm a real deep guy ;)
These videos/scripts are really well done. Ur gonna blow up real soon
thanks brother! I hope so!
The Barkley vs Jordan happiness thing so good
Idk. Jordan looks pretty happy to me.
you've never had jaundice
@@whatslapsure bitch made smh 🤦🏾♂️ mj is quite happy and content,basketball today is weak,the objective is to win and defeat ur opponents smh
I really wish I had something more to say other than I love your content. It's nice to see this level of analysis of everything around the game. Also the editing. Gotta love your jump cuts 😂. Thanks!
thanks for the appreciation brother!
The segment on Michael is quite literally why Kwame Brown's career was a disaster
He wanted to use that draft pick and make a big splash, and used it on a HS player in hope he would develop
THEN unretired and relentlessly bullied a player who was barely more than a child and stifled his development even more (because the team went from "we'll develop Kwame and around Kwame" to "we need to win now" overnight after Michael unretired)
dang poor kwame
@@whatslapsKwame Brown has his TH-cam channel where he explains he is better than Lebron but the NBA is scripted against him
Kwame does not even believe Lebron is a top 5 player. As he emphasizes the NBA trying to script a fraud to win championships
Kwame does not even consider Lebron as good human being either. Check his channel. Kwame is verbal about the fake fraudulent nature he says represents Lebron James
Genuinely enjoy the content keep up the good work ❤
glad you dig it man!
Some players are just so happy to play basketball and others think they made it as soon as they get their first paycheck.
yup. the work never ends, so you better like it.
Those "happy" players are generally doing a fake social media image for gullible people. Its why its a big deal for modern players being "exposed."
Guys like Iverson were straight up. Not fake, you got the real Iverson directly
If you are just "happy" to play basketball like Jordan Poole you get shown up. The average player only lasts 4 seasons. Yet its the superstars that are there longer.
It doesnt mean that one loves the game more. Some are better. KD can load manage, barely play 60 games, but he is simply superior to most players. Whether they like the game of basketball or not.
Kwame Brown loves and loved being an NBA player. He says the NBA was "scripted" against him but scripted to favor Lebron and Luka Doncic, etc.
Love of the game means nothing, thats fake. Chances are all of them love NBA in some way. Not everyone can be that level
@@VanessaWong-yi5pe But kd worked to that spot. Players like ben simmons and deandre ayton are already contempt with their careers even though they were #1 picks. Ayton said he has nothing left to prove.
Bro just got into NBA and I saw this guy to learn more, seems unfair the subs he has
glad you're learning and enjoying the channel man!
Jokic did imply he doesnt enjoy playing basketball or the NBA. *But Jokic made it explicitly clear that he isnt playing a fake character for NBA social media. And Jokic doesnt care if that makes him less popular.*
And yet Jokic is the best player in the league. Best player in the last 2 decades atleast
I think he knows believing your own hype is the downfall of every talented person
Ur bugging. Best player in the league since 04😭yea nah
Lol Jokic aint Steph or Kobe wtf are you smoking. Last 20 years??? He aint Duncan, Shaq, or KG yet slow down
In the last twenty years we have seen LeBron, Kobe, Tim Duncan, Steph, KG, Shaq and so many other all time greats. Jokic career ain't over, let him get a few rings, maybe an MVP or two more, than we can maybe talk about him being in the conversation of a top 3 player since 04.
Didn't Joker explicitly say that he thinks everybody doesn't like their job?
something like that
This channel and the shorts channel (with the long free flow videos) are amazing, you’re one of the best recent finds for nba content, keep it up man you’re going places
thanks a lot man! glad you're enjoying both the chans!
Hey been following for a bit now and I just have to say the perspective you approach basketball with is awesome. I think the personhood of players often gets lost since they’re part of a product that we consume and enjoy and want to keep consuming and enjoying. I think videos like this one or the one about gambling do a really good job of centering that and understanding the game as an avenue of human expression and not “product.” At least, that’s my takeaway. Hope the channel continues to grow, thanks for the vids
Thanks! That's how I like to look at sports. I feel like everyone enjoys sports docs and learning about athlete's stories, so might as well do it in real time.
One of the nicest editing styles I've seen in a while and definitely the best channel on this app rn. Love the content man
thanks a lot man! glad you enjoy it!
I really hope this channel blows up one of the best NBA content on the platform right now keep it up man
thanks! glad you're enjoying it!
Video idea: Video about NBA "glue guys". Maybe go over what a glue guy is, how they contribute to winning teams, and how the NBA values them in terms of contracts.
that's good. I've always been confused about that term
Uh, when I try to understand things that confuse me I start with what they aren't... So eliminate that and see what's left@@whatslaps
Bro great stuff.
I think it would be interesting to talk about players who turn into stars and all the ways they had to improve their game to get there.
I think it’s easy to look at stars like these finished products who were always that good when we forget that what makes them so great is all the tiny aspects of their game they honed in to become the players that we see them as now and assume they always were.
(Example: Embiid and his midrange, Anthony Edward’s defense, idk there’s probably a bunch more. Those might not even be the best examples of what I’m talking about. Honestly there’s probably at least one for every player if you look closely)
This is good. thanks for the example too. I'll probably use them.
@@whatslaps Bet!!
jokic just got that work life balance
Time to pursue other interests
That was excellent insight on Jokic - you articulated my thoughts on him far better than I could. You definitely deserve more subs!
thanks! glad we're on the same page
One of the best channels related to basketball !!
You are a genius.
Amazing video!!!
thanks! I'm glad you're digging the channel!
Video idea: The Secret Genius of Thanasis Antetokounmpo
I think A.M. hoops did something like that.
Your video quality is amazing. This is like some early 2000s MTV shit. It seems nostalgic but refreshing at the same time.
that's awesome! love that you felt that. hope you're enjoying the channel, man!
OMG I really love the description of the video!!!! English is not my firts language so, It is difficult follow you, you talk very quick but with the captions on the description I can catch more. I love your videos Keep going, hopefully someday I could understand the entire video wihout look at the captions THANKSSSSSSS
Happy to help! Good luck with your English, man!
@@whatslaps woman 🤭. I will practice. Greetings from México 🇲🇽
Lebron and Jordan came from entirely different eras. During the 1980s it was common for teammates to fight and conflict each other (says Isiah, who shrugged the Jordan Poole/Draymond Green punch saying its nothing compared to 1980s teammate conflict.)
Today,,everyone acts extra nice for social media rules. And people freak out over a Kyrie Irving tweet that would be "normal" in the 1980s.
But Lebron does curse out his Lakers quite a bit on court. And he does publicly blame his Lakers teammates for Lakers losses. Westbrook has described playing as Lebron as toxic. But this is a different era where most people act fake and nice nice for social media
Dang. I didn't know that about Russ. is there video or just a quote?
@@whatslaps Bro i like this channel but have you been living under a rock for the last decade? Bron is one of the most toxic sport figures in NBA history. 90% of Bron's teammates either dont like playing with him or admit the unique challenges of doing so if they do like him
Also The segment on Jordan was without context, not well researched, and seems to come from a LeBron fans' lense instead of an objective view of Jordan as a hooper
Jordan may have been a "psycho" but he aint Bron aka the passive aggressive Psycho who throws tantrums on the court like a baby, throws teammates under the bus, shows up teammates on the court and never takes accountability
You claim former teammates undeservedly "glaze" Jordan but ignore the fact that LeBron 's former teammates rarely talk positively about him. Telling the truth isnt "glazing" brosky
Damn man, content of this type should be from more famous channels, really underrated man. I do think this channel will blow up and become famous one day. Content’s the best!
thanks! glad you like it, man!
Good video, great for opening interesting discussions. Two points: 1) The beef between MJ and Jerry Krause was not in one direction. Krause was extremely competitive himself and claimed that primarily, his work and the organization won championships, not Jordan and the team. He dismantled a dynasty only to prove he could put up a new team and win again, and he claimed that the first title without Jordan would erase the Jordan cult, proving it was the organization and not MJ that led Chicago to glory. Of course, that didn't happen, and it didn't happen because MJ was right and Krause was wrong: the players win, not the organization. If you think it this way, it was Krause the arrogant one and the bully in that environment, not MJ -who, after all, had already won the NCAA and two gold medals with the USA as a college player to Krause and Bulls' nothing.
2) People were not as "sensitive" in previous historical periods as they supposedly are today. Punching someone on the court or trash talk was not considered bad or a lack of love for the game. Jordan did nothing so different than other stars of that time. Barkley, whom you've shown as a happy man as compared to MJ's ultra-competitiveness, was, in fact, notorious for his trash-talking and bullying opponents and had several brawls. Also, Michael was everybody's dirty game primary target. I remember the "Mr. Cooper" TV series. Mr. Cooper has signed with the Golden State Warriors as a bench player. He returns home and says, "Today in practice, they had me as Michael Jordan." "That's amazing!" someone says. He responds: "Not really. They practiced how to foul him without the referees seeing it."
PS. LeBron James suffers from narcissistic trauma. You hadn't got it before that record game because that's what happens with manipulative narcissists. His former teammates hate him. Look how Wade and Bosh ignored him in their HOF speeches while they praised MJ, Kobe, AI, and more. Or how Irving said the other day that the OKC series was the hardest he ever played, downplaying the GSW finals.
Narcissistic trauma sounds like an interesting video idea. It'd be cool to dig into how the difficulty of staying grounded as a professional athlete.
Video idea: Comparing the physicality of the sport throughout the decades. For awhile now it seems like if you tap a guy on the shoulder, its a foul and 2 free throws
yeah, that could be good. I can think of a good title too
really love your videos man. have a sub
glad you diggum. thanx for the sub
I really like how you give an analysis of different players' psyche and kind of a window into their mentality. I've noticed you do it in a lot of your vids. Could you find a way to incorporate your personality analysis of the younger players in the league rn (Ant, Luka, SGA, Hali, Brunson)? Thanks!
Absolutely! My favorite part of sports are the stories!
I love the game for sure but I’m definitely more in love with dominating the competition. I kind of relate to MJ’s insane competitiveness
you're insane brother!
@@whatslapsNo hes just a winner. Competitiveness is a great indicator of success. Dont judge people so harshly just cause their not contempt being as ordinary as you
@@whatslaps im not entirely sure that basketball itself is inherently fun to me. But seeing how I stack up to others and especially winning against others certainly is. This is not only a basketball thing, no matter what I do, the thing that is fun to me is being challenged by others and winning.
First time watching, man this is QUALITY CONTENT. Deserves more love fs 🙌
Glad you like it, man!
Buddy, I've seen just two of your videos, but you're pretty good. You're also a different style from a couple of other strong channels that I follow. I hope you get that uptick in viewership that you deserve.
Thanks man! things have been going well, lately.
I like this video!
Me too
Oh man this was fresh to see after all the "tactical NBA analysis" vídeos.
I dabble in some of that too
@@whatslaps I actually crave more of this philosophical kind of analysis. Its rare to see. So i'm thankfull and now subscribed. Cheers from argentina.
Amazing channel ❤. I always look forward to Monday.
see you next Monday!
Just binging your stuff this week. W keep postin
every monday!!
I genuinely get excited when you upload. Wish you well good sir
Well wishes to you sir
I’d really love to see a video going in depth into anything to do with the off season as someone new to the NBA
I've got a free agency for dummies, and nba trades for dummies you might enjoy!
I pretty much eat a corn dog every monday now, thanks to you ❤. I should call my mom now.
But on a related note, ive been trying to tell people jokic loves basketball, he just hates the media attention and them trying to make him somebody that he isnt. He doesnt want to be this mega star. Hes just a normal dude with an insane basketball IQ. Im surprised to finally see him in commercials now, but given he just had a kid, i figured he is gonna get all the money he can to support his family. Hes got every chance to go wild and he just.. doesnt lol. Hard to hate the dude.
Yeah, he's never tried to draw attention to himself. That's what I like. He's never crititcal of people and gives out a lot of praise.
Exactly,and media attention never brings anything good
You have to love Jokic. He plays it straight and competes because he like to. Plus, that tossing the kid around clip is so genuine.
I know. kid must've been freaked out haha
I’d like to see your take on what makes an NBA legacy great. Things like how someone’s style of play can change the NBA (Steph) or even how off-court contributions helps build the league and player legacies. Hell maybe even talk about players that become coaches like Kidd, Nash, Jerry West, etc change their legacies when they hang up the jersey
this a good suggestion. I might combine it with players who forced rule changes.
Yeah, no real comment here but what about Tim Duncan.
Tim Duncan was the most humble all-timer.
1st video I watched, subscribed
Thanks for the sub, man!
The last 2 minutes were amazing. U are clearly a passionate fan and can see beyond the bs of BR, HOH, ESPN. Just as Jokic does. Its a nice refresher to have a star who doesn't care what the media thinks bc at the end of the day it means nothing whether you get 5 mil likes on an insta story and whatactually matters is whether you are happy and satisfied with what you have achieved. This is the reason I also dont think Ben simmons is a good player. He lets the media and narratives get to him. he gets too caught up and he needs to start playing properly again. what is life without its mistakes. he needs to grow up and learn
Yeah, I know speculating a lot that's the way it seems to me. Maybe I'm reading into it too much. People definitely need to put more time into thinking about what they actually care about in life.
The question is,does Ben WANT to grow up? Or does he think,"I have everything I want- the money,the clothes,the parties,the celebrity girlfriend on my arm,the fame...WHY SHOULD I grow up?" I think he's got a bad case of the latter
@@whatslaps Wdym. U gave a perfect explanation of the situation. that's what u always do. Keep up the amazing work
WOOOOOOO BEST PART OF MY MONDAY HAS ARRIVED
you and me both bro!
8:40 idk man I feel like breaking the all-time scoring record, deserves that regardless of the situation or who it is
yeah, most people don't see it my way. I may see it differently in the future.
Here's a real self indulgent idea I'd like to see entertained by people smarter than me: MJ's ideal was that his team should play the game to the level of intensity and precision that he was presenting, so what if they did? What's the final meta of NBA Basketball actually look like when half of the players, talented enough to get into the NBA, are doing everything right and the other half are all, at minimum, Luka or Kobe skills and practice wise.
I think there's nuance to it and the game is always evolving, so there's a base level of commitment and intensity. After the base level the time spent on the game had diminishing returns. (just riffing)
I have joy when I watch whatslaps videos
love to hear it!
I usually dont watch watch nba content as usually theyre guys talking over b roll or something like that, but i actually take pause and watch your content because its al2ays a joy.
that's sick. love to hear it man.
What about this for a video idea. Role players and their development and whether or not teams want them to get better or just stay as role players?
that's good. or a player who developed the most throughout their career
so underrated
rating has increased lately though
Really interesting video! Keep it up. I just subbed
thanks for the sub!
I read a Tiger Woods quote in a book I'm reading that demonstrates your point about MJ. He said "winning is great, but beating someone is better".
I'm not sure what to call that type of personality honestly, except naybe "asshole".
Much love from Miami!
haha, that sounds like MJ.
Most of you are "assholes" by your TH-cam comment history
I love the alternative take on a multitude of memes that get repeated in basketball and often get lost for what they really mean. Im sure we'll eventually get something about the goat convo too?
for sure. maybe in the summer
Yes, playing alongside the GOAT is most definitely a privilege.
absolutely
Best basketball TH-camr out rn
glad you like the content!
i really like your style of video its rlly refreshing
thanks! glad you like it!
Another upload, another banger.
gotta bangem
0:01 were you mouthing what I think you were?
just a good old deep breath
Not sure if you’ve done this, but I think how confidence is the career booster and ended for many players is a good idea
I do like that. I've done similar things, but not that exactly.
If you want to know more about Rick Barry shooting underhanded and why Wilt tried it and then quit, listen to Malcolm Gladwell's podcast Revisionist History, the episode titled "The Big Man Can't Shoot." It's about basketball, but it's also about good ideas and why they don't take hold.
Best podcast episode I ever listened to. It's fascinating.
That was where I got it from ;) (first season was great, I didn't care for anything after)
@@whatslaps It definitely declined in quality.
JJ Reddick is a business partner of Lebron. The podcast was not out of pure love for the game. It was both to push certain narratives as well as push for JJ Reddick to be a coach for the Lakers.
Lebron has also arranged for Klutch Sports agents (Rich Paul) to directly try to influence the media for Lebron MVP voting. For a sum of cash. Lebron's actions are generally under the table but simply due to the social media era. You are not going to play with Lebron and have a fun field day walking in flowers. You are signing up to be a scapegoat. If you coach Lebrom you are highly likely to be FIRED by him. Faster than any player in history.
Difference is, we are in a social media era where people are more protective of their images. The "love of the game" is nonsense with the constant coach firing and threats of player trading. Its just a social media image. And the JJ Reddrick podcast thing was a setup to get him as Lakers coach. Nothing more
Dang who's your source about the MVP payola?
and also in the past players like Kevin Garnett and Kobe Bryant were definitely very passionate
yeah, for sure. KG came out to win every night.
handsomeslaps 🏀🏀🏀
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Please make a video on which NBA players would have made the best Ancient Roman senators. Love the content btw
I'll put it on the list underneath "which NBA player is the most likely to vape during a timeout?"
@@whatslaps The answer is Jordan Poole.
CAM Thomas is my goat tbh
y'all kids love em
the editing has been crazy 🔥
thanks player!
I hope you keep the style of the videos the same even if you get big. A lot of people change too much when they get bigger.
it's the only way I know how to do it.
I'm really fond of how Curry and Jokic treat basketball. Both of them just do their job as well as they could and get out to spend time with family or whatever other hobbies they have.
I like both of them too. Seem like down to earth guys.
Jokic is the guy that so introvert but he gonna write down your name on the Deathnote if you mess with him.
yeah, minnesota didn't mess with him enough
@@whatslaps They did, with that insane statlines, but the team can't keep up with the pace, tbf Murray can, but so inconsistent the whole series. that Nuggets team is in shambles.
I just think lebron and Kobe later in their career started to try to help better basketball and the nba as a whole. Lebron is just the most popular player in the league so I think they will feed his ego
yeah, I would agree. they're milking him dry
0:56 Jordan is the Bobby Fischer of basket
exactly.
That idea that KAT presents is kinda crazy. Never really thought about that but that is true, from as soon as you start in the league there is no stop. Next practice, next game, work harder, keep going, try and get better. Of course it's all in the (proper) spirit of competing and trying to progress and get better, but sheesh, sounds daunting. Jordan was another animal, his goat status (pun sorta intended) I think at least partially comes from his ruthlessness against opponents and teammates alike. His mentality and demeanor along with his off the charts skill and ability is what sets him apart in his own tier as the baddest to ever do it. To the point of your video, is this evil? I'm not sure. In a way I feel bad for someone who has this seemingly utter inability to enjoy what you're doing because perfectionism takes over and outweighs all else. Imagine being so good (and so competitive) at something that playing against the best in the world is not satisfying to you because you're not being challenged enough. The Bron and JJ stuff is interesting to me too, definitely seems to be a shift in mentality/approach to the game itself as a whole. Analytics vs "ooh he nice wit it" is a good comparison. Not sure I've ever heard a shoutout to Rick Barry in a hoops video, so good on you for recognizing game where most probably never even think to look. Good breakdown of Simmons, those points all seem to ring true. Poole appears to be a silly guy, yeah trying too hard to do/be what you can't. Jokic looks like a real cool dude, awesome talent, mad chill personality, keeping ego in check, just out there doing his (super talented) thing and then back to normal regular real life guy after the game is over. Thank you again broham, yo vidz iz tha nicest. Appreciate you fam, you know that.
I think Kobe and MJ were manipulators. I have a feeling he played a lot of psychological games with his teammates and opponents. He knew how to get into people's head. I think he also backed up his massive ego, which is pretty rare in sports now. A lot of guys will find a way explain their greatness, where Jordan made it so you couldn't deny it. I think Lebron is non-confrontational and it's cost him some finals. If Lebron had the Kobe/MJ mentality he would have brought more out of his teammates. Of course I'm totally speculating haha. I love the different personalities we have in the league now. Thanks for checking back in brother!
If there's a guy that Im sure loves ball is KD
yeah yeah. I think that's true.
On how Ben Simmons is motivated by praise, how would you get rid of that? I struggle with that too and seeing it in a famous individual makes me worry abt how it could affect my future
Just understand where praise is coming from and what someone's motivations are for giving it to you. Don't let the need for approval dictate your life and your decisions.
lol, I think MJ was motivated a bit by gambling as well.
competition
can you do a vid on traveling violations in the dunk contest? bet it gets a million views
you got it, pal.
I mean they stopped everything for steph too when he broke ray allens record and if you played 2k in the earlier years they would always do a stop when records are broken i just thought that was something they always did
I remember steph, but I didn't realize they actually stopped the game for that
I am not a competitive person and I've often wondered how people with a very strong drive to compete experience victory and defeat. My best friend is insanely competitive, even with stuff that doesn't really have any real stakes. For example when we are playing casual co-op video games his tendencies still pop up regularly, usually getting a little upset when we don't do as well as we could. He seems to get more enjoyment from winning than me but on the other hand he can spend a looong time ruminating on what could've been done differently etc. Maybe this is just a classic example of higher highs and lower lows and it all balances out but it still looks pretty stressful.
I'm the same. I'm not super competitive. I I just do my thing, and not stress
I'm a terribly sore loser, I don't get mad at the winner or try to change the rules or anything like that. But if I lose because I know I played bad, my mood is completely in the dumps. Winning on the other hand especially if I know I played well is the best feeling in the world no matter what I have won, even if it's just a card game against my grandparents or a game of beer pong against my friends.
Wining heals all wounds
sure does.
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I'M SUBSCRIBED!!!! 😅
thanks for the sub, player!
@@whatslapsThere's entire hoops channels on TH-cam dedicated to slandering LBJ's career and it's so effing cringey.
Look, MJ is the GOAT. Talk about it. Rave about it even. Just don't denigrate other players in the name of idolizing another.
DreamersPro and AngryOldHoopsFan build their channels completely on hate and disrespect. As long as you steer clear of that ish, you've got me for life fam.
Perspective sniper, nice vid
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whatslaps i can tell you love the game of youtube. keep it up
it's fun once people actually start watching your stuff haha
@@whatslaps i see the subscriber number going up much faster now makes me happy to see
I'm definitely a jordan fan, and I think he's the goat. That being said the dude was 100% a psychopath. I find it funny more than anything.
same. He's the goat to me. Makes you question the meaning of life though.
The Lebron breaking the scoring record isn’t egotistical in my opinion, it is more like a milestone he saw coming for a long time and just wanting to celebrate him achieving this milestone
Well he couldn’t catch Jordan in chips… so he knew he needed a different route to try and claim the goat throne . Didn’t work . We see through his stat padding
yeah, I'm conflicted
Comparing Jordam Pool to Allen Iverson is wild💀 you compared a trash player to an MVP
He's saying what Jordan Poole WISHES he was
@@henrymanzano2201 ah my bad, thanks for making clarifying. Also Jesus loves you seek Him
henry's got it.
Any whatslaps video slaps love the channel
the stuff from 2 or three years ago is rough trust me. I unlisted it.
Would be awesome if you make a video a about all the Melo situation in the Knicks including the Jeremy Lin situation
I think I could shoehorn it into a larger topic.
i need a part 2 on this
for sure, but give it a month or two.
@@whatslaps thanks man 🙏
U cant be MJ or Kobe without being obsessed with detail of game.
that's true that's true
From using Kat as an example of being passionate, to being confused why player's dont use "true shooting percentage" because it has a negative effect on your game if you decide to use that instead of just how many shots taken in front of or behind the 3.
You should try listening to what players are saying like on Gil's Arena
I'll check it out. I haven't really watched that show.
great vid as always
thanks man!
Mj isn’t a psychopath, psychopath’s don’t cry, psychopaths make people do things they would never do. MJ was obsessed with being the best, he has a gambling addiction, among many other flaws like most humans. Psychopaths don’t bring up such well adjusted kids that were unaware of their father’s greatness till they were way older. There is a difference.
Is that true that psychopaths don't cry?
@@whatslaps I have an internet degree in Psychology. I know what I am talking about.
With Jordan, his competitive nature is directly related to his ADHD.
In his day, the only kids noticed with the condition were the hyperactive troublemakers. Jordan didn’t seem to display like that, I guess.
interesting. I didn't know that.