Both device also Support NFC (Near Field Communication) in conjunction with the Ledger Security Key App! 🚨 Don't miss out on the ultimate comparison between Ledger's newest hardware wallets, the Ledger Stax™ and Ledger Flex™! Which one will be your next crypto companion? Let me know your thoughts in the comments! 👇
Enjoyed your comparison. I noticed that the flex has gorilla glass, is it actually more durable then Stax on the screen area only? As being less prone to scratches on the screen.
I did not notice that in the specs. Thank you for pointing that out. I didn't notice it when using the device though, until after you mentioned it. And then there is a definite hardness to the flex screen. I guess we could add more durable to the plus side of the flex comparison
Rex what about storage size comparison how many coins will fit on both? If memory is not much perhaps ledger will make a larger memory one to force an upgrade
I did talk about the storage compared to the ledger Nano X, but it really wasn't pertinent to this video. (cut it for time) So I'll probably post that little segment tomorrow where I talk about the storage capacity and the reason why it's smaller than the Ledger Nano X. It's basically because they had to fit extra code on the secure element chip to power the screen. They're working with limited space because this secure element design is maximized for security. I think if they were to make another secure element that had more storage capacity, it would require a huge investment. We're basically talking about that little chip that you see in your ATM card or credit card. Just imagine trying to program an ecosystem on something that small.
@@andreas_europe If your happy with the nano, don't get the over priced flex. I see no benefit if you're already set up. Plus, the memory on the flex is less that the nano S. I couldn't put all my crypto on the flex.
I have the stax on the way. Is there any downside to just doing a restore, or should I start new? I have been using ledger nano x plus for several years.
No there's no downside at all, restoring from a previous device. It's entirely up to you. Just make sure that that previous device's seed phase has never been exposed or pulled into a hot wallet in the past.
It would definitely help. An Apple pencil would work pretty well if you had one laying around. However, that's an expensive solution. I think there might be other companies like Wacom that have styluses too.
Yes it is sold separately. They sell this one on the Ledger website. shop.ledger.com/products/belkin-boost-charge/black But it supports Qi Wireless charging and there are lots of compatible chargers out there.
If you already have your crypto on a Nano S or X, what's the benefit of the Flex and Stax? The memory of the Flex is less than the Flex. I wasn't even able to install all my crypto on the Flex due to the small amount of memory. What am I missing?
Well, for me, it's the improved interface. I've used a ledger nano device for years, and I find either the Stax or the Flex to be much more convenient. That means a lot to me. If you're already comfortable with using your ledger nano device and you don't care about interface, then I guess there is no benefit moving to Stax or flex. Somehow I look at this question like "would you rather use a flip phone or a smartphone?" They can both make calls. I just remember how sending texts was really tedious on a flip phone because there were three letters on each key and on a smart phone you have a full keypad. So I kind of look at this in the same sense of upgrading the experience. Maybe you don't care about that, but I think a lot of newcomers that find the Ledger Nano too difficult to use, will appreciate the Stax/Flex interface.
@@CryptoDad Gotcha. I use mine to store crypto. I rarely move the crypto around. So, I guess if you’re constantly moving crypto, I could see the benefit.
Crypto wise, not really. It's is just a much better interface. However, I don't believe the Ledger Nano X supports the NFC interface when you're using the Ledger security key app. So if you want to use your device as a pass key, the ledger Stax or Flex has additional functionality.
Thanks for the review. Both are looking brilliant, but the stax i would say is pricewise a absolutely overkill for the average crypto investor. Only me 2 cents...
Yes, I totally agree. If we assume that the average cryptocurrency investor is only holding a few thousand dollars worth of crypto, then a $400 price tag is quite a chunk out of their investment. Best to put that money towards more crypto. However, if you're hodling more than a few thousand worth of crypto, it makes sense to protect that investment with a state of the art, easy to use device.
First we have to wait for almost 1.5 years for the Stax and once delivered to first users they do a magic trick at Ledger and the Flex comes out of nowhere! The exclusive feeling for the Stax is directly destroyed in my opinion… And the price should be about 40% cheaper for the Flex but no it’s just 50 dollars.
Basically interface. It's much easier to use. If you're comfortable with your existing device, then I guess you don't need it. Personally, I've been using these devices on a day-to-day basis years for now. I welcome the touch screen and would never go back to using a nano device. To me, it's like the difference between an iphone and a flip phone. Some people still like flip phones though.
Yes, it's quite possible for a seed phrase to have a repeated word. I once had a seed phrase that had the same word in three different places. Very rare, but not impossible.
I spent some time with the team at Ledger during Bitcoin Nashville 2024, and they told stories about how customers would come to them and tell them that they needed their help extracting crypto from one of their devices. They said they had to tell them that they designed the device to specifically prevent that.
@@CryptoDad Ledger has very poor wallet security in case of seizure. Some wallets have a self destruct mechanism etc. There is another wallet which I won't mention which is 100% government proof which has no seed its a private key generator. I fear governments. I'm worried about my funds being seized. Pin code protection might prevent loss of funds from common criminals but not governments. I've seen in the media people's bitcoin seized in hardware wallets due to illegal activity, however it was once illegal to own gold. Our governments have gone rouge.
Both devices have the exact same amount of app storage: Ledger Stax & Flex App Storage: What's the Deal? 🧐💾 | The CryptoDad: th-cam.com/video/cuGrOMdQpVA/w-d-xo.html
I'm not sure what the return policy is with Ledger. But if you bought it at Best Buy or Amazon, you might be able to get it returned within a short window.
Completely untrue. That is not how the ledger recover service works. And they have not circumvented the secret. There are countless videos about this subject matter. This whole idea that ledger devices are unsafe, cracked, or have a back door is old news.
@@CryptoDad Are you saying that it's impossible to circumvent the secret stored in the secure element with a malicious firmware update? I'm talking about what's technically possible, not if the company would do anything malicious.
@@MyTube4Utoo who prefers to wait 2 years for Stax and then have Ledger roll out a new device? Who prefers to have Ledger come up with a controversial crypto seed recovery option?
Everyone is different. But my opinion is, if you're holding more than a few thousand dollars worth of crypto, it makes sense to buy the best device you can find to keep it safe.
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Interface most valuable part of this device . Totally agree with Dad .💎💎
Both device also Support NFC (Near Field Communication) in conjunction with the Ledger Security Key App!
🚨 Don't miss out on the ultimate comparison between Ledger's newest hardware wallets, the Ledger Stax™ and Ledger Flex™! Which one will be your next crypto companion? Let me know your thoughts in the comments! 👇
A HUGE improvement over the Nano X
With a HUGE price increase lol
I have poor eyesight so even the small difference is a big deal for me. I'll go with the Stax. Thanks for taking time to explain that in detail.
Of course, my pleasure.
so keystone 3 pro or ledger flex? any advice on that, or it will be perfect if there’s a comprison video.
STAX is 100X better than any Nano. Incredibly simple to operate/navigate.
Really liked this!
Great video and thanks for the comparison. :)
Thanks Rex, Flex is the best!!!
I've been waiting for this video... I want a stax but might wait to see if they do anything for Black Friday...
I got both and i can see flex has a glass on top of e ink screen which i like and it looks like image quality is higher on flex, did you notice that?
@@OKTAYAlizadehFlex has gorilla glass Stax does not
@@DEM78976 yes
I used restore to make my Stax a clone of my previous 3 Nano X’s. I still keep the X’s as backups.
Thanks for the comparison.
Have you done a video on how to transfer from a ledger, X to the new Stax
You just need your passphrase
What is a battery life in Standby mode? Nano X can hold the battery for a few months. What about new products?
Can I just use my restore phrases from my Nano to these?
Thanks crypto dad, am I able to retain the same 24 words from my nano X and put them in the flex?
Yes, you can restore to your flex using your previous seed phrase, even for a nano.
Is still same safety as the first Ledger Nano? I mean, is this more secure that the Ledger Nano from 2018 2019? Any thoughts?
Enjoyed your comparison. I noticed that the flex has gorilla glass, is it actually more durable then Stax on the screen area only? As being less prone to scratches on the screen.
I did not notice that in the specs. Thank you for pointing that out. I didn't notice it when using the device though, until after you mentioned it. And then there is a definite hardness to the flex screen. I guess we could add more durable to the plus side of the flex comparison
I would like to see a "transaction" how its done camera or scan etc. thanks
Stax looks a billion times more sexier than Flex.
which is safest the crypto wallet?
Rex what about storage size comparison how many coins will fit on both? If memory is not much perhaps ledger will make a larger memory one to force an upgrade
I did talk about the storage compared to the ledger Nano X, but it really wasn't pertinent to this video. (cut it for time) So I'll probably post that little segment tomorrow where I talk about the storage capacity and the reason why it's smaller than the Ledger Nano X. It's basically because they had to fit extra code on the secure element chip to power the screen. They're working with limited space because this secure element design is maximized for security. I think if they were to make another secure element that had more storage capacity, it would require a huge investment. We're basically talking about that little chip that you see in your ATM card or credit card. Just imagine trying to program an ecosystem on something that small.
Keyboards need to be much bigger on both devices
I still have the old ass ledger nano S. Lol
Good hw - had it and also the nano s plus. Both are doing their job and are fair priced.
@@andreas_europe If your happy with the nano, don't get the over priced flex. I see no benefit if you're already set up. Plus, the memory on the flex is less that the nano S. I couldn't put all my crypto on the flex.
$560 in Canada.... whoa nelly!! I aint got that kind of dough for a device that doesn't even have colour screen.
To each their own. I do… they can’t do color for certain reasons
Can you store usdt or any stable coin thank you for your reviews
yes
want it for the passkeys 2fa just tap the phone
I have the stax on the way. Is there any downside to just doing a restore, or should I start new? I have been using ledger nano x plus for several years.
No there's no downside at all, restoring from a previous device. It's entirely up to you. Just make sure that that previous device's seed phase has never been exposed or pulled into a hot wallet in the past.
@@CryptoDad Ok, thanks Rex.
I wonder if there is a pen that could be used with the flex to overcome the smaller keypad. Would that resolve the issue you have about interface ????
It would definitely help. An Apple pencil would work pretty well if you had one laying around. However, that's an expensive solution. I think there might be other companies like Wacom that have styluses too.
I didn’t see a wireless charging base for my stax. Is it sold separately?
Yes it is sold separately. They sell this one on the Ledger website.
shop.ledger.com/products/belkin-boost-charge/black
But it supports Qi Wireless charging and there are lots of compatible chargers out there.
If you already have your crypto on a Nano S or X, what's the benefit of the Flex and Stax? The memory of the Flex is less than the Flex. I wasn't even able to install all my crypto on the Flex due to the small amount of memory. What am I missing?
Well, for me, it's the improved interface. I've used a ledger nano device for years, and I find either the Stax or the Flex to be much more convenient. That means a lot to me. If you're already comfortable with using your ledger nano device and you don't care about interface, then I guess there is no benefit moving to Stax or flex. Somehow I look at this question like "would you rather use a flip phone or a smartphone?" They can both make calls. I just remember how sending texts was really tedious on a flip phone because there were three letters on each key and on a smart phone you have a full keypad. So I kind of look at this in the same sense of upgrading the experience. Maybe you don't care about that, but I think a lot of newcomers that find the Ledger Nano too difficult to use, will appreciate the Stax/Flex interface.
@@CryptoDad Gotcha. I use mine to store crypto. I rarely move the crypto around. So, I guess if you’re constantly moving crypto, I could see the benefit.
Is there anything that I can do with the stax or flex that I cannot do with my nano x?
Crypto wise, not really. It's is just a much better interface. However, I don't believe the Ledger Nano X supports the NFC interface when you're using the Ledger security key app. So if you want to use your device as a pass key, the ledger Stax or Flex has additional functionality.
Fantastic. CryptoDad does it again.
Thank you.
Did you notice any difference in battery life been the two devices?
Not really, but I generally use them with my computer, so they are plugged in most of the time.
Is that a button on the side of the flex to wake it up? I notice there’s some kind of button there.
The button is a power on power off. It will also wake the device up and ask you for the pin.
@@CryptoDad is it the only method to wake up the screen? If it were to go bad is there a way into the device?
I can't setup CSPR in flex, there's no option like NanoX
Ignore he’s a scammer
Thanks for the review. Both are looking brilliant, but the stax i would say is pricewise a absolutely overkill for the average crypto investor. Only me 2 cents...
Yes, I totally agree. If we assume that the average cryptocurrency investor is only holding a few thousand dollars worth of crypto, then a $400 price tag is quite a chunk out of their investment. Best to put that money towards more crypto. However, if you're hodling more than a few thousand worth of crypto, it makes sense to protect that investment with a state of the art, easy to use device.
First we have to wait for almost 1.5 years for the Stax and once delivered to first users they do a magic trick at Ledger and the Flex comes out of nowhere! The exclusive feeling for the Stax is directly destroyed in my opinion… And the price should be about 40% cheaper for the Flex but no it’s just 50 dollars.
It’s 150 cheaper not 50. So it is almost 40% cheaper
Hey crypto dad can you migrate nano s to flex?
You should be able to get the exact copy of your nano, when you start click restore and type in the seed phrase from your nano
Why would someone need this over the ledger? Is it because the security is different?
Basically interface. It's much easier to use. If you're comfortable with your existing device, then I guess you don't need it. Personally, I've been using these devices on a day-to-day basis years for now. I welcome the touch screen and would never go back to using a nano device. To me, it's like the difference between an iphone and a flip phone. Some people still like flip phones though.
@@CryptoDad Thanks for outlining your experience between the two!
Can a Ledger seed phrase word be used more can once?
Yes, it's quite possible for a seed phrase to have a repeated word. I once had a seed phrase that had the same word in three different places. Very rare, but not impossible.
@@CryptoDad Thank you
If the wallet is seized is it possible for the seed to be extracted by an expert?
I spent some time with the team at Ledger during Bitcoin Nashville 2024, and they told stories about how customers would come to them and tell them that they needed their help extracting crypto from one of their devices. They said they had to tell them that they designed the device to specifically prevent that.
@@CryptoDad Ledger has very poor wallet security in case of seizure. Some wallets have a self destruct mechanism etc. There is another wallet which I won't mention which is 100% government proof which has no seed its a private key generator. I fear governments. I'm worried about my funds being seized. Pin code protection might prevent loss of funds from common criminals but not governments. I've seen in the media people's bitcoin seized in hardware wallets due to illegal activity, however it was once illegal to own gold. Our governments have gone rouge.
Yeah but with that price, you still not gonna have wide adoption
Security Key app is used with cable and NFC, not bluetooth
Yes. Thank you for pointing that out. I misspoke during the video. I pinned a comment about it, but it probably got lost in the shuffle.
What about memory?
Both devices have the exact same amount of app storage:
Ledger Stax & Flex App Storage: What's the Deal? 🧐💾 | The CryptoDad: th-cam.com/video/cuGrOMdQpVA/w-d-xo.html
I had the flex the screen was to dim for me.. you couldn’t use it in a dark room.
Its an e-ink display.
Can you read a paper in the dark?
@@josepereira7025 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂
Ya $400 vs. $250. Rediculous prices.
I got the flex. Now I'm kinda wanting the stax! Not sure if I can return my flex :(
Flex Is very practical but if you're not happy, return it while you can.
Flex is the best!!!
I'm not sure what the return policy is with Ledger. But if you bought it at Best Buy or Amazon, you might be able to get it returned within a short window.
What is the benefit of a secure element if Ledger can update the firmware to circumvent the secret stored there? They've done it once before.
Completely untrue. That is not how the ledger recover service works. And they have not circumvented the secret. There are countless videos about this subject matter. This whole idea that ledger devices are unsafe, cracked, or have a back door is old news.
@@CryptoDad Are you saying that it's impossible to circumvent the secret stored in the secure element with a malicious firmware update? I'm talking about what's technically possible, not if the company would do anything malicious.
Best to go with Trezor
It comes down to personal preference.
@@MyTube4Utoo who prefers to wait 2 years for Stax and then have Ledger roll out a new device? Who prefers to have Ledger come up with a controversial crypto seed recovery option?
Stax looks pretty good but a bit overpriced.
Trezor Safe 5 is a better value. IMO
Trezor Safe five is also a great device. It also has a touch screen which makes it much more intuitive to use.
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The Ledger Stax is $400 USD lol, whose paying for that? You'd need to hold multiple BTC to justify the cost
Everyone is different. But my opinion is, if you're holding more than a few thousand dollars worth of crypto, it makes sense to buy the best device you can find to keep it safe.
@ngrave. End of.