Im 60yrs of age an Im Keith Peddler . Im agreeing with AC Moses an LiL Ceasar an Mr Hanibal aka OG Frog who's storyline are basically correct an leaving know doubts!!!!
Im Still Agreeing wit AC Moses aka King Bobaluie who definitely has No Reason to Manipulate an alter the obvious Truthfull History of the Beginnings of the term Bloodz Gang as he stated. I Know Bobiluie And Ive Read his Book. "STARTING LINE UP"
Brother you ain't lying. I'm from Chicago, and back in the 70's,80's, and the 90's, the mobs here had areas. Now, it's basically block on block sh*t because the mobs broke down into factions and it's chaos. But yeah,if we could get it together we'd be much better off.
Ya I've been saying that all year. I hope KM gets a crack at their stories...interested to hear what they gotta say. However, the Pirus and Brims were the first Bloods so they ought to know best
@@bigbaba4542 Four years ago, Kev uploaded a 13 minute video of him at the Figueroa Boys annual picnic with some original Swans in attendance. He wasn't able to really interview any of them at that moment, but still a cool little video with some good info.
Anyway... The Phrase " What's up Blood " was used all over the country in the late 60's by guys coming back from Viet Nam. We called each other " Blood Brother's , No way Blood, what you talking about Blood " all these things were common sayings and used all the time. I remember the OG Inglewood Crips saying , calling each other Cuzz in the early 70's. 71-72. As far as the Chaingang at Morningside from 71- 74 I never remember Any Chaingang/ Family calling each other Blood. " We Called each other Brother or Comrade ".... Ask the Guys from Inglewood high how they addressed each other at that time from 71-74. .... SINBAD 👑
I'm 50 years old from North Carolina and in 1985 my mother was considering for me to go live in Inglewood California to live with her best friend because I was getting in trouble a lot. She had no idea of the gang violence because her friend was in the process of moving out there herself. Picture that!! I can only imagine how I would have been treated being from another state. Thank God it didn't happen 🙏
You would have been Alright ... Inglewood in 1985 was a beautiful happening place to live and raise yo kids. lol, Don't Sleep on the Wood. a lot of good people come out of Inglewood from that era. It was really a nice place to be then and just may become bigger and better than ever.
If you saw the Movie the WOOD, it was quite similar to the movie. The BiG Tree During Christmas, The whole of LaBrea from Slauson all the way down till it turns into Hawthorn Blvd would be decorated for Holliday's every year. Beautiful Town Houses and condos All the stores and swap meets on Market street in Downtown inglwood comedy clubs not to Mention The Fabulous Forum, Home of the LAKERS. Oh, Inglewood was Poppin in 85 just didn't have No Rent Control and still Doesn't LOL.
I am 52 years and I can remember the term Cuzz And Blood both being used as standard greeting's all my life as a small boy. I never heard the term blood applied to any specific street gang or group until at least 1975,76 or so, cause back then everybody said "Blood" 1st. And as far as Brims, Piru's, Swans DL's, etc, I recall hearing about them but never unified under one Name As Bloods until much Later. Early 70's, 74 or so, I recall my Uncle's homeboy Ronny saying "PIRU How about You", who was also the younger teen brother to a Crip, But never heard anyone Identifying it with being synonymous with the Blood term until Crippin was in Full Effect with the stylized Color Code and Blue Rags. "Chitty Chitty BANG bang Nuttin But Crips N thangs" with the girls having the signature peroxide red Spot on their Hair to symbolize that they were Criplelttes. I understand JokoMoe Saying how his Pops Called him a Blood because my Grandfather as well as other older Men in the community would use that term. But I don't believe his Pop's meaning was to apply it to a Street gang affiliation of any particular set or Hood. I feel It was the Logical and Organic choice for All Non-Crip Affiliates that would Stand in opposition against a Powerful and Fast-growing Enemy I never heard the term GANG BANGIN or seen anybody Fly that Red Rag in West LA or South Central/Athens really, until late 75-79, nor did I see anything that could be used as a Specific Gang Identifier for other non-Crip hoods. I can truly say, I hadn't ever seen anybody, as they say, "Flamed uP" and Calling themselves Bloods until the Late70's early 80's.
i AGREE! Im 55 years old and was born and raised in the Nickerson Gardens! I remember my uncle had a very large wooden pole, aboit six feet long, with a glove on top formed in the B sign! That was like 74 or 75. I just remember that my hood was against Crips! Bounty Hunters Hated Crips!
@@thegeneralblood5008 man I remember stuff from when I was one or two years old. Detailed stuff about people, places and things. So does that mean I was in the streets??!🤔😂😂
A Crip named Robert Beamon that attended Washington High and Henry Clay Jr High with me, he told me a story about how he an some friends got jumped in Compton. The dudes that jumped them said "we knew yall was Crips because you said cuzz" this was 1975 at Los Angeles High School when I heard this, this is when I found out that blood/cuzz mattered.
My uncle said he first saw a red flag in early 75 at the beginning. Then he stated in 75 that's when he started seeing certain groups and areas wearing red and red flags...
Kev put this together to where it was respectful and it didn’t take away from any OG who talked perspective. It’s pretty much listen and you decide for yourself.
What i think is interesting from my take is they started unified as crips then went branched to gangster, ug, neighborhoods, block etc wanting they identity and these brothers were individuals first villains, swans, piru, brims, bishops etc then became together as bloods
SouthEast Dago tappin in...Been rockin wit kevmac since day 1. 3 damu sets outta dago were started with LA influence. 59 BRIMS, EASTSIDE SKYLINE PIRU AND THE UPTOWN EMERALD HILLS BOUNTY HUNTERS/BLOODS
ELGIN DIDN'T EVEN GO INTO DETAIL ABOUT HOW BLOODS CAME ABOUT, HE JUST SAID EVERYTHING CAME FROM THE BRIMS FAR AS INFLUENCE AND HE'S RIGHT ABOUT THAT 100%
@@critical_thought992 PIRU DIDN'T THE START THE RED BABDANA PIRU DIDN'T START THE GUNPLAY WITH CRIPS PIRU DIDN'T START THE SUWOOP PIRU DIDN'T START THE BLOOD GANG SIGN PIRU DIDN'T START ANTI CRIPS COMING TOGETHER SO WHAT DID PIRU START ???
💯kev that boy AC descriptions are legendary "hay watch this" "what's up cuz" "what's up blood" "man what tha fuc they talking bout what that mean" he put you right there💯lil Cesar definitely one of my favorite historians from kmv very well spoken brother with real knowledge. I aslo see the conviction of Elgin and Jackomo who perception may have been different. Much respect to all the Big Homies
Kev Mac my neighborhood back in the day was the 135 st before the blood or the piru come along and before the crips start.so the history of la county, Compton, South Central,watts and the city of los Angeles.keep interviewing the different gangs to know the history of Los Angeles gangs.
I grew up in Detroit. I can remember the term ' Blood' being used in the late 60s early 70s alot of the Vietnam vets used the word as a greeting. What's up young blood? Im 62
Same in NYC. “Blood” was a coming greeting when I was a little boy. And it was the Nam vets who was a calling us “ Young blood “. Also the term “Cuz” was also used frequently. Both terms are about Love and Family. Because that’s what we ARE.
One Other thing I noticed on the subject was how the Brothers said the police had a lot to do with stirring up the pot with their own ideas and Terminology and definitions. It can also be said that a more sinister and hidden hand could have played a big part in this uprising and culture creation of this new faction, although Babaluie shows undisputed facts about the actual reasons for the formation of the Bloods in the Pen, once the authorities found a suitable rival it became very easy to come with the Psyop... 2 movies were made at the end of that 70's decade 1978 you get The Movie YoungBlood which Happens to be the name of the Main Character. This flick played not only in the Matinee's all over LA and abroad, but it played for like 2 years. It was filmed in an uncharted part of west LA and Hollywood so you weren't gone really have no real interference while making it LA in because they knew from the news how serious this thing could get. Staring: Brother Larry Hilton Jacobs, The brother from the TV show Welcome back Carter And the Movie Cooley High. The Movie was Clearly a close play on the Bloods, The Leader Romell, who wore a Green Army jacket like the brother Spoke at the beginning of this video when he spoke on the Leader of the Green jackets put the word out on profiling all cats in Crip attire dressed Nutty. If you see the movie you can clearly tell that the opposing Gang known as the Daltons are the representation of the Crips waring blue beanies Levi's and bomber Black Flap Jackets. the Movie was filmed I believe in parts of School Yard or Gear Gang territory of that year. The Next year in 1979 We Get the WARRIOR's although it wasn't LA gang culture that Movie Fand the Flame of Chaos for the new generation to come. If you was still dancing to the music of Greese with John Travolta who also played a Gang Member as one of the T-Bird's as well as Saturday Night fever with all them Gang Bangin on the Puerto Ricans at their clubhouse where they drove the 64 Impala through the front door as well as all the other inuendos by the end of the Warrior's, a chunk of the Teen movie-going Masses were ready to Join up wit Somthin Fa ShO. HollyWood Had a Hand in this Shit ToO, Then Came COLORS in the '80s.
Bounty Ru Brims…….Lil Ceasar (IFGB), Barefoot Pookie (West Side Crips), Frog (Bounty Hunters), Sinbad (IFGB) and Cat Ceasar (76 ECC) all back up AC Babalouie story on origin of Bloods…….1974 (Youth Authority)…..1976 (Streets)…..
T RODGERS TOLD THE BLOOD FORMATION WAY BEFORE A.C MOSES DID... SO WHAT YOU GOT TO SAY ABOUT THIS INTERVIEW ??? HOW COULD T RODGERS KNOW ABOUT HOW BLOODS CAME TOGETHER BEFORE A.C ? AND THAN HE SAID HE DOESN'T EVEN KNOW A.C !!!! HE SAID THE WESTSIDE CAME UP WITH THE ALLIANCE OF BLOODS IN JAIL BECAUSE OF THE WORD CUZZ BEING SO VICIOUS TOWARDS NON CRIPS th-cam.com/video/IC4YVDfMJWs/w-d-xo.html
@@2Pkb25 T Rodgers didn’t go to jail until he was in his 30’s….How would he know what’s going on in jail in the 1970’s???……Barefoot Pookie know T Rodgers and doesn’t know Elgin…..What does that mean???…..T Rodgers is Elgin little homeboy…..Elgin ran with T Rodgers older brother nobody talks about…..AC also exposed Jungle Stone Brims that turned Harlem Crips in the early 1970’s……
@@fakenews6142 WHO FROM JUNGLES TURNED HARLEM ??? AND T RODGERS SAID HE DOESN'T KNOW A.C !!!! AND FROG SAID HE NEVER EVEN HEARD OF BPS UNTIL 1979 😏 I GUESS DIFFERENT NIGGA'S MET UP AT DIFFERENT TIMES
You can tell that Gang shit real out there they always gotta remember the exact years shit started. Can you imagine them drunk or high arguing about it...Some people get they wigs split.
No Cap tho my moms man stabbed his own brother in the head over this same debate and who was blood first SMH I was like 8 9 maybe ten and I'm a 86 baby
@@damuaskari2275 LET HIM TELL THAT TO THE BLACK STONES 😂😂😂 BPS WAS IN IT BEFORE BOUNTY WITH ALL DUE RESPECT 👌 MAYBE IN COMPTON & WATTS IT MEANT PIRU, BUT IN SOUTH CENTRAL THE ORIGINS OF THAT RED BANDANA STARTED AT HARVARD PARK. GENERAL ROBERT LEE ALREADY BROKE IT DOWN x REST IN PEACE
@@2Pkb25 Brims was diffently there as was the Families The PIRU'S BHs and definitely the BRIMS each had major parts in the formation of these Damu thing along with the other homies.
Looking from the outside and being 61, I have mad respect for all gangs but the bloods are totally unique to me. Being outnumbered and always being challenged but stood your ground needs to be recognize! To all my brothers in that lifestyle, please be careful
If, we sat on the same block at each corner. And " Something happened in the middle of the Block"... That's 1,2,3 different views because the " Person in the middle of the Block has his up close view the guys on the corners didn't see ". .... Somewhere in the middle is the truth. Or, maybe everybody's " VERSION IS THE TRUTH THEY KNOW ".... HMMMMM .....SINBAD
@@2Pkb25 YEAH, I KIND OF SENSE SOMETHING THERE. BUT, HE GOTTA ADMIT..... THE BRIMS WERE AROUND FIRST..... FIRST ANTI CRIP GANG IN L.A. FROM WHAT I KNOW...SINBAD
I'm glad I was scary during my so called gang banging times. So many of my homies I trauma bonded with locked up or passed from this shit...whether crips started on some revolutionary shit or not now is the time to protect us...its still a interest of mine Asé Raymond Washington Asé T Rodger shid Asé Kev mac keep going my brother I honestly look up to you
keep in mind a lot of brothers died or are not mentally stable. sherm, angel dust, then crack. Not Many black men live past 65. These bro’s are almost 70.
@Tone Ball It's Crips hating on the BPS homies. They trying to start some Brim vs Piru bullshit. Let xK from VNG get on here. They was P1ru allies since 75.
Basically after a point, if you weren't a Crip, you were considered a Blood in Cali. Not matter what your clique called itself. Their hands were forced. My Godfather was a Mason from the South. When he first saw gang signs, he was shocked how closely they were related to fraternal organizations. He always said "somebody gave that to them, they didn't come up with that way of identifying themselves".
blood stone villians are not p stones or stones. they are bloods that came later, 2nd generation bloods i believe. i know because i grew up in a villians neighborhood
Most of the Blood hoods predate the Blood identity. The Brims were around in 67-68 they were arguably one of the first Black gangs in South Central, they eventually would go on to become Bloods, but they existed before the Bloods formed. They actually existed before the Crips did too...
This video is well put together to break down the facts. Salute to Kevmac. Piru & bounty hunters evolved blood to mean a word to challenge cuz in YTS in 1974. Inglewood evolved the red to represent blood that’s y Inglewood is majority blood.
That's incorrect 👎 It wasn't just Ru and Nickerson, Babalouie said Piru Bounty Hunter & Brim was the YTS alliance that started Blood's. You kant leave the Brims out because they was there too.
@@kaykaywarlord6733 what I said is correct, yes their were brims there too, bobalouie expressed how Billy Oscar Oliver walked the line to claim blood with the other non crip gangs in the jail. But the facts of the matter Bobalouie & Rhea Boyce were the two most dominant non crip figures in the jail. So respectfully the Ru’s & the Hunters spearheaded the foundation. Much respect to the Brims, every hood plays a part in the blood alliance.
@@billiondollarambition That's your opinion, not fact.And Brims also led the Anti Crips on the street's so there's no way that the Bounty Hunter get more credit than the Brims. Piru x Brim are the 2 main factors on the Blood Alliance.
@@billiondollarambition And the Red didn't start In Inglewood. That came from the BPS homies. The majority of Damu is on the Westside but the things you saying is totally false.
@@kaykaywarlord6733 the Brims was the first to fight against the Crips. But the brims WASNT spearheading the anti crip gangs to say blood to challenge cuz in YTS IN 74. The bounty hunters were created to go against crip it’s a difference. & lastly their wasn’t any high ranking brims in YTS in 74. Bobalouie & Rhea Boyce were.
When you think about it all makes sense now cause back in the day, up until the 90s so called Blood gangs always identified themselves simply by their neighborhoods and that was it. Hardly ever added Blood on the end.
from what i heard one guy got shot because of a girl and the piru retaliated ,because of that the enemy said they were roosters and the pirus liked it and formed the red bandana because of the red on a rooster and the bloods name started being used shortly after that.what ever year that was but sounded like it was very early on in the 70s.
Piru & Brim existed before Crips & Bloods came about but so did every other pre existing gang. It’s just those 2 held the most influence on Anti Crip gangs coming together* Brims in 1972 got together with Outlaws ,BlackStones & Hoover Park Family - Piru in 1973 got together with Luedars Park & Bounty Hunter ; By 1974, all of the Anti Crip gangs are allies & the rest is history 💯
@@JayEP86 its not the same Blackstones from Chicago.....cats in that area was on their thang pre T.Rodgers!! Who you think T.Rodgers clicked up with because he wasn't the founder in that area!! I been watching kev mac since the beginning and in all of his interviews I have yet to hear T.Rodgers name come up at all about the founders in the beginning stages. There was already blackstone's in the jungle plus when he came out from Chicago he was 12....no 12 year old was starting anything back then. I bet it was easy for him to gravitate to the Blackstones because of their name and where he came from. All gangs, clicks and groups that were out before crips and that didn't fold became the anti-crips....and later joined the same alliance/umbrella!! (Not taking anything away from the brotha T. Rogers and what he did especially what he brought to change/help our kings be better human beings and transform their lives after bangin🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
From my observation this seems like AC and Caesar are saying the same and on the same page. And the way Kev edited the video I don't know if he did it on purpose 🤔🤔or it just happened like that but it seems he is using Caesars interview to help people overstand what AC is saying in AC interview(when it cuts from AC to Ceasar)since people have been saying they can't overstand AC because how he talks especially when someone is liein to him in his face...🤣🤣🤣(I could always overstand AC) but that was hard Kev...👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾💪🏾💪🏾!! Everyone except Elgin and Jack(which are brothers) line up to AC time-lines. People front on AC because he his self said he was a crip first and brought the cat out the bag about how Piru's were Crips at one time 😳 But keep up the great work Kev....you killin them. You keep sharpening your craft and it shows....got to respect that!! Amen brotha Kev!!
I was sayin the same thing. AC and Caesar time-line lines up and they weren't in the same room. And the fact that Kev n SMac looked up the articles and never found the term Blood used in the time frame Elgin n Jack say the term Blood started. OOOG Frog has same time-line as AC too.
AC is hysterical when he gets worked up...lool.. He reminds me of a black version of the clown Captain Spaulding from Rob Zombies movies "House of 1000 Corpses" and "The Devils Rejects."...lmaoo
@@warsame2245 Yes, Lincoln rocks green rags. Does it represent money or is it because their neighborhood high school (Lincoln) main color is green? Maybe a SD native can answer that for us.
Nothing is forever all things will change new generation era will come with a different mindset and start they own with no ties to the old ways of doing things 💵🎒💨💨🔥
@@yarddownmuzikgladiatorni2n431 BRIMS GAVE THE RED RAG TO PIRU IN 1973. PIRU BROUGHT THE RED RAG TO BOUNTY IN 1975. DENVER LANES WAS ALSO FLYING RED RAGS IN 1974.
@@2Pkb25 BRIMS WAS SAYING CUZZ & WEARING BLUE BANDANAS , FROM WHAT T. ROGERS STATEMENT . BUT NEVER THE ORIGINAL BOUNTY HUNTERS OR GREEN JACKETS OF WATTS 1969 .
Bexause JACKAMOE standing on hiz Square ⬛👌🏽👏😎 FUXK what a ckrab saying we predate all of em we been blood way before a blood alliance in prison that PIRU CKRAB talk is for Loserz on BL30DZ
@@siriusblackwhitebuffalo7370 I think their exposure in movies, banging on wac, and the cool sounding name and fly brand helped with nationwide notoriety and establishing knock-off gangs outside of california.
Kev Mack The Brims we're fighting vs Crips as soon as they started.. The Crips were the new gang, and didn't take off on the Eastside like they did once Raymond Washington took it to the Westside.. Before the Crips the tribes were more on the black tip, wasn't, jumping or robbing other blacks, when the Crips began they weren't with that. Thus, those older tribes were forced to unite begetting the Bloods. Kev don't make it seem like the Crips had no resistance from the Pirus in Compton, the BH or the Brims.. You want the real, come to the Brims, Big Angel, Toni Lucious, Katnip, Eddie Watts.. That's the best advice I could give you.
Before the Crips the Tribes were on the Black Tip ? Police & Court Records Say Different. Newspaper Articles Say Different. High School Records Say Different. Plenty of fighting & shooting between Black Gangs & Black "Social Clubs" before the Crips came on the Scene. None were on the "Black Tip".
@@2Pkb25 that's debatable. But look back at the origins of the Brims & Pirus on the streets in the early-70s. Neither one pushed or expanded a Blood Movement in the Early-70s. The Brims started roughly around 59th & Vermont in 1972. Before that they was Apple Hats, according to Eldrin, an undisputed Co-founder of the Brims. Brims pushed a hard-line on expanding Brims across the Westside, similar to the Crip Expansion. 59 Brims....From 59th & Vermont they pushed into the 60s & Harvard Park 62-64-61 Brims , in what today is 62HPB, 67NH, 65MG and NS83 hoods. 59 Brims 61-62-64 Brims Van-Brims in the 50s. Untouchable Brims in the 50s. Orchard Block Brims in the 40s. Fruit Town Brims in the 30s. Black Stone Brims in the Jungles & 20s. Broadway Brims. They were pushing and expanding Brims, not Bloods on the streets. They was converting areas and gangs into Brims. Same with the Piru Street Boys. They pushed Piru into different neighborhoods in Compton, not Bloods. The whole Anti-Crip thing, meeting up in CYA, and bonding to resist the Crips and creating a title/label so they can identify as One, makes all the sense in the World. All these teenage Anti-Crips were catching cases in 72 going to CYA, meeting up for the 1st time. And what do they have in common? It's just logical. There was no Need for an Alliance til they hit the system and their numbers were too short. Alliances are birthed in the Jail System.
@@joemosely9383 NOT EVERY ALLIANCE WAS BIRTHED IN JAIL...AND T RODGERS WAS THE FIRST TO TELL THAT STORY NOT A.C !!!! T RODGERS SAID HE DON'T RVEN KNOW WHO A.C IS 😂😂😂😂 BLOODSTONE BRIMS BLACKSTONE BRIMS HOOVER PARK BRIMS FRUIT TOWN BRIM THESE ARE GANGS THAT BECAME ALLIES WITH BRIMS ON THE STREET'S..
@@joemosely9383 HOW WEREN'T THEY PUSHING BLOOD'S ? AREN'T BRIMS BLOOD'S ? SO WHAT MADE THEM BLOOD'S ? YTS DIDNT MAKE THEM BLOOD'S BECAUSE THEY WAS ALREADY UNDER AN ANTI CRIP ALLIANCE WITH BPS & DENVER LANES BEFORE 1974... BRIMS FIGHTING CRIPS AND WEARING RED RAGS MADE THEM BLOOD'S.. SO THAT WOULD BE 1972 × 1973 THEY STILL PUSH BRIMS TODAY, AIN'T NO SUCH THING AS HARVARD PARK BLOOD'S,EVEN THOUGH EVERYBODY KNOW THEY BLOOD'S... SO WHAT MAKES THEM BLOOD'S ? THEY CREATED EVERYTHING BLOOD'S AND PIRU REPRESENT TODAY
Im far from an expert but i seen an old TH-cam video with a dude was talking about the crips and denver lanes etc. He didnt sya they were bloods he spoke of them as if they were separate gangs. Big shot out to the person that edited and spliced these videos. AC was kind of funny in some parts.
Brims in LA shot.out to.da Gladiators 30's 504 214 Dalton Ave Aliso Village Harvard Park Fruit Town VAnNess Gang Rollin 50s untouchables unton orchard Ft40's
I like what king say "why was you a blood" and barefoot say the same Most don't see the blood was always they omw gang and still till this day its BH Piru Familys Brims Lanes Swan Be Bob and STL
Ac got a point but my pops is right, when yal was locked up shit was goin down but not to say the ones in prison didn’t know everything they new a Lil but not everything an A LOT of shit was transforming. WsB cPP 148 149 NWA Ruboy Tae aka baby jackamoe az 8line Kev u a legend for this. Shout out to all the dinosaurs of this gangbangin shit on both sides. Represent ur neighborhood wit peace inshallah
That's a whistle that predate any of the gangs we know today..many whistle my first time hearing it was in the mid sixties around 65.When I spoke on my jacket being stolen at school doing a fight that was 1967..it was a boomer jacket .in 1970 the crips started wearing them.so just like the whistle it became a crip thing..read my book it speaks about the jacket in 67....take care
I'm brim !!!! Official 64th street brim ! People don't know the depths of this set ! And what it consists of ,only real Bloods know what this life about! Sowoo! Woo! That's the greet and end of greet get it straight! Don't get it fucked up we humble but we vicious! We don't lose! I'm a wolf in the game ,so I know a lil something, I came from the trenches but can always learn more, WESSSSSSSSTSIIIIIDE!!!!!
21:16 - 21:49 an example of why I came to appreciate Kev Mac Videos for years now...journalism with integrity/without an ulterior motive
Im 60yrs of age an Im Keith Peddler . Im agreeing with AC Moses an LiL Ceasar an Mr Hanibal aka OG Frog who's storyline are basically correct an leaving know doubts!!!!
This Channel is a Time capsule for gang history Kev Mac the Goat 💯
AC HASN'T LOST A DEBATE YET
I’m still rollin with A. C.
STILL!
From day one
Im Still Agreeing wit AC Moses aka King Bobaluie who definitely has No Reason to Manipulate an alter the obvious Truthfull History of the Beginnings of the term Bloodz Gang as he stated. I Know Bobiluie And Ive Read his Book. "STARTING LINE UP"
Still!
I still think the reason they formed a Blood Alliance like A.C. said makes the most sense to me..
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Imagine how much stronger we’d be as a people if these dudes could’ve stuck together and built something like the panthers tried to do
Brother you ain't lying. I'm from Chicago, and back in the 70's,80's, and the 90's, the mobs here had areas. Now, it's basically block on block sh*t because the mobs broke down into factions and it's chaos. But yeah,if we could get it together we'd be much better off.
I'm 55 yrs old and I remember when we only used 135ives PIRU. We did not start saying Blood until the 7th grade at Perry Jr. High School.
Still waiting on the Swans, Denver Lanes, Athens Parks, etc to talk about this but I guess it may never happen at this point
Especially swans. There is something mysterious and intriguing about the original swans
Ya I've been saying that all year. I hope KM gets a crack at their stories...interested to hear what they gotta say. However, the Pirus and Brims were the first Bloods so they ought to know best
@@bigbaba4542 Four years ago, Kev uploaded a 13 minute video of him at the Figueroa Boys annual picnic with some original Swans in attendance. He wasn't able to really interview any of them at that moment, but still a cool little video with some good info.
DL gave some history to "street gangs"
@@jswift7178 Word I saw that
Anyway... The Phrase " What's up Blood " was used all over the country in the late 60's by guys coming back from Viet Nam. We called each other " Blood Brother's , No way Blood, what you talking about Blood " all these things were common sayings and used all the time. I remember the OG Inglewood Crips saying , calling each other Cuzz in the early 70's. 71-72. As far as the Chaingang at Morningside from 71- 74 I never remember Any Chaingang/ Family calling each other Blood. " We Called each other Brother or Comrade ".... Ask the Guys from Inglewood high how they addressed each other at that time from 71-74. .... SINBAD 👑
Definitely true evn in ny they was saying young blood n otha stuff
U are 100 percent right 😎 bruh I was saying the same thing
Facts!
It was, what it is or whats happin blood in 69-76, what's up blood came later and say blood in 66-68.
Liked it and the video didn’t even start yet!!
I did the same thing
Ooooooooooooohhh! Impressive. 🙄
I didn’t hesitate. KMV always hits its target.
That's mandatory on this channel for me!
Woop!!
I'm 50 years old from North Carolina and in 1985 my mother was considering for me to go live in Inglewood California to live with her best friend because I was getting in trouble a lot. She had no idea of the gang violence because her friend was in the process of moving out there herself. Picture that!! I can only imagine how I would have been treated being from another state. Thank God it didn't happen 🙏
Sounds like that movie 'The Wood' to me....🤔lol!
You would have been Alright ... Inglewood in 1985 was a beautiful happening place to live and raise yo kids. lol, Don't Sleep on the Wood.
a lot of good people come out of Inglewood from that era. It was really a nice place to be then and just may become bigger and better than ever.
If you saw the Movie the WOOD, it was quite similar to the movie.
The BiG Tree During Christmas, The whole of LaBrea from Slauson all the way down till it turns into Hawthorn Blvd would be decorated for Holliday's every year. Beautiful Town Houses and condos All the stores and swap meets on Market street in Downtown inglwood comedy clubs not to Mention The Fabulous Forum, Home of the LAKERS.
Oh, Inglewood was Poppin in 85 just didn't have No Rent Control and still Doesn't LOL.
I am 52 years and I can remember the term Cuzz And Blood both being used as standard greeting's all my life as a small boy.
I never heard the term blood applied to any specific street gang or group until at least 1975,76 or so, cause back then everybody said "Blood" 1st.
And as far as Brims, Piru's, Swans DL's, etc, I recall hearing about them but never unified under one Name As Bloods until much Later.
Early 70's, 74 or so, I recall my Uncle's homeboy Ronny saying "PIRU How about You", who was also the younger teen brother to a Crip, But never heard anyone Identifying it with being synonymous with the Blood term until Crippin was in Full Effect with the stylized Color Code and Blue Rags.
"Chitty Chitty BANG bang Nuttin But Crips N thangs" with the girls having the signature peroxide red Spot on their Hair to symbolize that they were Criplelttes.
I understand JokoMoe Saying how his Pops Called him a Blood because my Grandfather as well as other older Men in the community would use that term.
But I don't believe his Pop's meaning was to apply it to a Street gang affiliation of any particular set or Hood.
I feel It was the Logical and Organic choice for All Non-Crip Affiliates that would Stand in opposition against a Powerful and Fast-growing Enemy
I never heard the term GANG BANGIN or seen anybody Fly that Red Rag in West LA or South Central/Athens really, until late 75-79, nor did I see anything that could be used as a Specific Gang Identifier for other non-Crip hoods.
I can truly say, I hadn't ever seen anybody, as they say, "Flamed uP" and Calling themselves Bloods until the Late70's early 80's.
Jackamoe is Slow and Lieing
i AGREE! Im 55 years old and was born and raised in the Nickerson Gardens! I remember my uncle had a very large wooden pole, aboit six feet long, with a glove on top formed in the B sign! That was like 74 or 75. I just remember that my hood was against Crips! Bounty Hunters Hated Crips!
Dam if you 52yrs old and can remember all that then you must of been hanging in the streets when you was 6yrs old...smh.
@@thegeneralblood5008 man I remember stuff from when I was one or two years old. Detailed stuff about people, places and things. So does that mean I was in the streets??!🤔😂😂
@@sanzrich9887 nope but you sharing somebody else story tho 🤣🤣🤣
I'm giving mad props to OGs on both sides sitting down with Kev to give us the history and knowledge.
A Crip named Robert Beamon that attended Washington High and Henry Clay Jr High with me, he told me a story about how he an some friends got jumped in Compton. The dudes that jumped them said "we knew yall was Crips because you said cuzz" this was 1975 at Los Angeles High School when I heard this, this is when I found out that blood/cuzz mattered.
My uncle said he first saw a red flag in early 75 at the beginning. Then he stated in 75 that's when he started seeing certain groups and areas wearing red and red flags...
Remix...good one Kev Mac
Thanks again kev I appreciate your work!
Good content.. Kev Mac. Salute to you... From ya long lost friend..
Kev put this together to where it was respectful and it didn’t take away from any OG who talked perspective. It’s pretty much listen and you decide for yourself.
What i think is interesting from my take is they started unified as crips then went branched to gangster, ug, neighborhoods, block etc wanting they identity and these brothers were individuals first villains, swans, piru, brims, bishops etc then became together as bloods
You got to love AC Babalouie and Little Cesar ✊🏾
SouthEast Dago tappin in...Been rockin wit kevmac since day 1. 3 damu sets outta dago were started with LA influence. 59 BRIMS, EASTSIDE SKYLINE PIRU AND THE UPTOWN EMERALD HILLS BOUNTY HUNTERS/BLOODS
I believe AC Moses His Blood inception makes the most sense, Elgin and Jackamoe stories aren’t lining up with all due respect.
ELGIN DIDN'T EVEN GO INTO DETAIL ABOUT HOW BLOODS CAME ABOUT, HE JUST SAID EVERYTHING CAME FROM THE BRIMS FAR AS INFLUENCE AND HE'S RIGHT ABOUT THAT 100%
@@2Pkb25 I agree the brims have a heavy influence but, PIRU started everything.
@@critical_thought992 PIRU DIDN'T THE START THE RED BABDANA
PIRU DIDN'T START THE GUNPLAY WITH CRIPS
PIRU DIDN'T START THE SUWOOP
PIRU DIDN'T START THE BLOOD GANG SIGN
PIRU DIDN'T START ANTI CRIPS COMING TOGETHER
SO WHAT DID PIRU START ???
@@2Pkb25 so you tell me who started these things?
@@critical_thought992 He's low-key correct OG. All of those things did came from the Brims & I'm
Bompton Piru myself M.O.B 1700 🚫
💯kev that boy AC descriptions are legendary "hay watch this" "what's up cuz" "what's up blood" "man what tha fuc they talking bout what that mean" he put you right there💯lil Cesar definitely one of my favorite historians from kmv very well spoken brother with real knowledge. I aslo see the conviction of Elgin and Jackomo who perception may have been different. Much respect to all the Big Homies
That AC intro is a certified classic, automatic💯💯💯
Great content Kev Mac the history is very important 👌🏿
Kev Mac my neighborhood back in the day was the 135 st before the blood or the piru come along and before the crips start.so the history of la county, Compton, South Central,watts and the city of los Angeles.keep interviewing the different gangs to know the history of Los Angeles gangs.
Salute to you. That was some great editing.
I grew up in Detroit. I can remember the term ' Blood' being used in the late 60s early 70s alot of the Vietnam vets used the word as a greeting. What's up young blood? Im 62
Same in NYC. “Blood” was a coming greeting when I was a little boy. And it was the Nam vets who was a calling us “ Young blood “. Also the term “Cuz” was also used frequently. Both terms are about Love and Family. Because that’s what we ARE.
In L.A. blood was another word for brother in the 60s.
One Other thing I noticed on the subject was how the Brothers said the police had a lot to do with stirring up the pot with their own ideas and Terminology and definitions.
It can also be said that a more sinister and hidden hand could have played a big part in this uprising and culture creation of this new faction, although Babaluie shows undisputed facts about the actual reasons for the formation of the Bloods in the Pen, once the authorities found a suitable rival it became very easy to come with the Psyop...
2 movies were made at the end of that 70's decade 1978 you get The Movie YoungBlood which Happens to be the name of the Main Character.
This flick played not only in the Matinee's all over LA and abroad, but it played for like 2 years.
It was filmed in an uncharted part of west LA and Hollywood so you weren't gone really have no real interference while making it LA in because they knew from the news how serious this thing could get.
Staring: Brother Larry Hilton Jacobs, The brother from the TV show Welcome back Carter And the Movie Cooley High.
The Movie was Clearly a close play on the Bloods, The Leader Romell, who wore a Green Army jacket like the brother Spoke at the beginning of this video when he spoke on the Leader of the Green jackets put the word out on profiling all cats in Crip attire dressed Nutty.
If you see the movie you can clearly tell that the opposing Gang known as the Daltons are the representation of the Crips waring blue beanies Levi's and bomber Black Flap Jackets.
the Movie was filmed I believe in parts of School Yard or Gear Gang territory of that year.
The Next year in 1979 We Get the WARRIOR's although it wasn't LA gang culture that Movie Fand the Flame of Chaos for the new generation to come.
If you was still dancing to the music of Greese with John Travolta who also played a Gang Member as one of the T-Bird's as well as Saturday Night fever with all them Gang Bangin on the Puerto Ricans at their clubhouse where they drove the 64 Impala through the front door as well as all the other inuendos by the end of the Warrior's, a chunk of the Teen movie-going Masses were ready to Join up wit Somthin Fa ShO.
HollyWood Had a Hand in this Shit ToO, Then Came COLORS in the '80s.
Yup been profiting off the good and bad of our culture for so long now smh
Bounty Ru Brims…….Lil Ceasar (IFGB), Barefoot Pookie (West Side Crips), Frog (Bounty Hunters), Sinbad (IFGB) and Cat Ceasar (76 ECC) all back up AC Babalouie story on origin of Bloods…….1974 (Youth Authority)…..1976 (Streets)…..
T RODGERS TOLD THE BLOOD FORMATION WAY BEFORE A.C MOSES DID... SO WHAT YOU GOT TO SAY ABOUT THIS INTERVIEW ???
HOW COULD T RODGERS KNOW ABOUT HOW BLOODS CAME TOGETHER BEFORE A.C ?
AND THAN HE SAID HE DOESN'T EVEN KNOW A.C !!!!
HE SAID THE WESTSIDE CAME UP WITH THE ALLIANCE OF BLOODS IN JAIL BECAUSE OF THE WORD CUZZ BEING SO VICIOUS TOWARDS NON CRIPS
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@@2Pkb25 T Rodgers didn’t go to jail until he was in his 30’s….How would he know what’s going on in jail in the 1970’s???……Barefoot Pookie know T Rodgers and doesn’t know Elgin…..What does that mean???…..T Rodgers is Elgin little homeboy…..Elgin ran with T Rodgers older brother nobody talks about…..AC also exposed Jungle Stone Brims that turned Harlem Crips in the early 1970’s……
@@fakenews6142 WHO FROM JUNGLES TURNED HARLEM ???
AND T RODGERS SAID HE DOESN'T KNOW A.C !!!!
AND FROG SAID HE NEVER EVEN HEARD OF BPS UNTIL 1979 😏
I GUESS DIFFERENT NIGGA'S MET UP AT DIFFERENT TIMES
@@2Pkb25 They in AC book….It’s not too hard to believe…..T Rodgers little brother is a reputable Harlem 30 also…..
@@fakenews6142 T RODGERS DIDN'T SAY IN HIS 30'S... HE SAID IN JUVIE THEY FORMULATED BLOOD'S !!!
Salute to the Big Homies!! B.I.P. T Rodgers and all the fallen soldiers WOOP!! WOOP!!
That Part!!
SALUTE
He should've came to do an interview with Kev mac 😒
Salute SIP BIP big homie T damn this is a hard one BPS 👌🏾🆎🅱️🔺✊🏿
Very well put together👍🏆💯
What did og say when the video first came on I can’t hear em fr
Inspiring Kev Mac & S Mac I'm trying to do Ft.Worth history in the SAME fashion...I appreciate you homie!!!
Have to do another interview with the Brims either fruit town or vng also BPS, SWANS & AFC
You can tell that Gang shit real out there they always gotta remember the exact years shit started. Can you imagine them drunk or high arguing about it...Some people get they wigs split.
No Cap tho my moms man stabbed his own brother in the head over this same debate and who was blood first SMH I was like 8 9 maybe ten and I'm a 86 baby
what did AC say ".... under bulldogs arm"
could someone write it down please
THE RED BANDANA MET NOTHING BUT PIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII - "RU" 1973 , & BLOODS 1974 YTS , 1976 BLOODS ON THE STREETS , THE EVOLUTION!!
They not trying to hear it
Facts
@@damuaskari2275 LET HIM TELL THAT TO THE BLACK STONES 😂😂😂
BPS WAS IN IT BEFORE BOUNTY WITH ALL DUE RESPECT 👌
MAYBE IN COMPTON & WATTS IT MEANT PIRU, BUT IN SOUTH CENTRAL THE ORIGINS OF THAT RED BANDANA STARTED AT HARVARD PARK.
GENERAL ROBERT LEE ALREADY BROKE IT DOWN x REST IN PEACE
@@damuaskari2275 NOW IF A.C SAYS IT WAS BRIMS & BOUNTY IN YTS WITH HIM, NOTICE HOW FROG SKIP OVER THE BRIMS ON SOME SLICK SHIT 😂
@@2Pkb25 Brims was diffently there as was the Families The PIRU'S BHs and definitely the BRIMS each had major parts in the formation of these Damu thing along with the other homies.
Once I Hear The K Mac Video Intro I know I'm About to Hear Historical Blood Or Crip Events out of The L.A County
Harvard Park brims!!! Southside of Los Angeles CA. Called South Central!!! 🙌🙌🙌🙌
Kev we need a peace treating '92 doc with the og's
For What ??
To understand after many years of unnecessary blood shed...that they were able to come to some understanding that the shit was senseless
@@jayskywalker5049 thank you! Idk why that person would ask why that was an historical moment
Looking from the outside and being 61, I have mad respect for all gangs but the bloods are totally unique to me. Being outnumbered and always being challenged but stood your ground needs to be recognize! To all my brothers in that lifestyle, please be careful
Kinda hard to say when bloods really started but a.c. Sounds the most accurate to me
If, we sat on the same block at each corner. And " Something happened in the middle of the Block"... That's 1,2,3 different views because the " Person in the middle of the Block has his up close view the guys on the corners didn't see ". .... Somewhere in the middle is the truth. Or, maybe everybody's " VERSION IS THE TRUTH THEY KNOW ".... HMMMMM .....SINBAD
FOR SOME REASON OR ANOTHER, FROG FROM BOUNTY HUNTERS LIKES TO DISCREDIT THE BRIMS ☝
@@2Pkb25 YEAH, I KIND OF SENSE SOMETHING THERE. BUT, HE GOTTA ADMIT..... THE BRIMS WERE AROUND FIRST..... FIRST ANTI CRIP GANG IN L.A. FROM WHAT I KNOW...SINBAD
FROG IS A COOL BROVA THOUGH
@@2Pkb25 Frog bitter towards the big homie Jackamoe from Nellas.
Nickerson isn't allowed in Bompton anymore anyway. Frog a hater P funk
I'm glad I was scary during my so called gang banging times. So many of my homies I trauma bonded with locked up or passed from this shit...whether crips started on some revolutionary shit or not now is the time to protect us...its still a interest of mine Asé Raymond Washington Asé T Rodger shid Asé Kev mac keep going my brother I honestly look up to you
What’s up with the BPS interviews and the SWANS interviews?
keep in mind a lot of brothers died or are not mentally stable. sherm, angel dust, then crack. Not Many black men live past 65. These bro’s are almost 70.
@Tone Ball It's Crips hating on the BPS homies. They trying to start some Brim vs Piru bullshit. Let xK from VNG get on here. They was P1ru allies since 75.
Basically after a point, if you weren't a Crip, you were considered a Blood in Cali. Not matter what your clique called itself. Their hands were forced. My Godfather was a Mason from the South. When he first saw gang signs, he was shocked how closely they were related to fraternal organizations. He always said "somebody gave that to them, they didn't come up with that way of identifying themselves".
It makes sense that it happened in jail to categorize the different guys.
FREE MAD RONALD FROM THE 20s
DEFINITELY WOULD LOVE MORE HISTORY FROM THE 20s THAT ISNT HASNT BEEN SHOWN YET
Yep 👍💯✌️✅
blood stone villians are not p stones or stones. they are bloods that came later, 2nd generation bloods i believe. i know because i grew up in a villians neighborhood
The g’s off 56st were known as East Side Villains before the Blood affiliation
@@ComptonWar then came bloodstone villain gangsters. Now it’s blood stone villain after they took the g out.
Bloodstone name came from music
@@ISaidItIDidIt the name came from a music group actually
@@Tattooniac exactly
It's good Kevmac is doing this first b4 anyone else to much history stolen
shot out to the founders of the bloods they paved the way and made it easier for the bloods today to exsist
PIRU paved the way for crips they literally KREATED em so I guess
It sounds like what AC did in prison set forth a alliance and a slang word that was made poplar by that alliance. The Bloods. This goes to AC.
Man Ac coined the Word blood in jail. His homeboy told him bout . That's, how came bout term blood.
AC know what he talking about
Matter of fact Blood Stone Villian & R20 Outlaws in the Bottoms go back further then most other Blood gangs.
Most of the Blood hoods predate the Blood identity. The Brims were around in 67-68 they were arguably one of the first Black gangs in South Central, they eventually would go on to become Bloods, but they existed before the Bloods formed. They actually existed before the Crips did too...
@@wolf7el356 History the Outlaws were before any so called Bloods that are around from the late 60s to the 70s.
@@wolf7el356 outlaws are in South Central LA and if you talk to their OG'S they will tell you they are the first Bloods
@@wolf7el356 Blood Stone Villians since somewhere between 1969-71
@@wolf7el356 WHEN DID BRIMS BECOME BLOOD'S ? ..
NOTHING IN YTS INFLUENCED THE BRIMS BECAUSE THEY STARTED IT ON THE STREET'S WITH BPS x NESS 👌
Kev.mac is active ✔ 💯
We Need More Interviews from AC Moses! 🤣
I cant understand what the hell he be saying half the time 🤣
KEV... always on deck!!!! GOOD SHYT
This video is well put together to break down the facts. Salute to Kevmac.
Piru & bounty hunters evolved blood to mean a word to challenge cuz in YTS in 1974. Inglewood evolved the red to represent blood that’s y Inglewood is majority blood.
That's incorrect 👎
It wasn't just Ru and Nickerson,
Babalouie said Piru Bounty Hunter & Brim was the YTS alliance that started Blood's. You kant leave the Brims out because they was there too.
@@kaykaywarlord6733 what I said is correct, yes their were brims there too, bobalouie expressed how Billy Oscar Oliver walked the line to claim blood with the other non crip gangs in the jail. But the facts of the matter Bobalouie & Rhea Boyce were the two most dominant non crip figures in the jail. So respectfully the Ru’s & the Hunters spearheaded the foundation. Much respect to the Brims, every hood plays a part in the blood alliance.
@@billiondollarambition That's your opinion, not fact.And Brims also led the Anti Crips on the street's so there's no way that the Bounty Hunter get more credit than the Brims. Piru x Brim are the 2 main factors on the Blood Alliance.
@@billiondollarambition And the Red didn't start In Inglewood. That came from the BPS homies. The majority of Damu is on the Westside but the things you saying is totally false.
@@kaykaywarlord6733 the Brims was the first to fight against the Crips. But the brims WASNT spearheading the anti crip gangs to say blood to challenge cuz in YTS IN 74. The bounty hunters were created to go against crip it’s a difference. & lastly their wasn’t any high ranking brims in YTS in 74. Bobalouie & Rhea Boyce were.
Good show
When you think about it all makes sense now cause back in the day, up until the 90s so called Blood gangs always identified themselves simply by their neighborhoods and that was it. Hardly ever added Blood on the end.
Lil Tone from LA Brims was in YTS in 1972 for Killing to Harlem Rips.
Which brim.did u know.him. to.be
@@yarddownmuzikgladiatorni2n431 it says which. And yes I've known him since 1986
Little Caesars hitting that stick man in his first video he's fast he play like he's not chilled out fella but he's quick 💪👍💯✌️
JACKAMOE said AR CHIVES INSTEAD OF (AR KIVES) SO U KNOW HE DON'T KNOW WHAT 🙄 HE TALKING ABOUT LOL 😆😂🤣😄😅
You wrong for that 🤣
@@sambaker7703 😆🤣😂
Maybe he orders his baked potatoes with sour cream and kives?
Definitely, Kev Mac didn't find anything 🤦♂️🤷♂️🤣🤣🤣🤣
He knew how to mix the blender up real good 😂😂😂😂😂😂
A.C. AND LIL CEASER......💯💯💯💯💯
from what i heard one guy got shot because of a girl and the piru retaliated ,because of that the enemy said they were roosters and the pirus liked it and formed the red bandana because of the red on a rooster and the bloods name started being used shortly after that.what ever year that was but sounded like it was very early on in the 70s.
Piru & Brim existed before Crips & Bloods came about but so did every other pre existing gang. It’s just those 2 held the most influence on Anti Crip gangs coming together*
Brims in 1972 got together with Outlaws ,BlackStones & Hoover Park Family -
Piru in 1973 got together with Luedars Park & Bounty Hunter ;
By 1974, all of the Anti Crip gangs are allies & the rest is history 💯
It's very interesting how to black stones got to L.A. from Chicago
@@JayEP86 Shit some niggas move around to alot of different places when they kids and a few bring they neighborhood affiliation with them *
@@matrixseven8528 it really makes the world small
@@matrixseven8528 It's was 1972 Homeboy when Piru expansion begin throughout COMPTON .... PiRu
@@JayEP86 its not the same Blackstones from Chicago.....cats in that area was on their thang pre T.Rodgers!! Who you think T.Rodgers clicked up with because he wasn't the founder in that area!! I been watching kev mac since the beginning and in all of his interviews I have yet to hear T.Rodgers name come up at all about the founders in the beginning stages. There was already blackstone's in the jungle plus when he came out from Chicago he was 12....no 12 year old was starting anything back then. I bet it was easy for him to gravitate to the Blackstones because of their name and where he came from. All gangs, clicks and groups that were out before crips and that didn't fold became the anti-crips....and later joined the same alliance/umbrella!! (Not taking anything away from the brotha T. Rogers and what he did especially what he brought to change/help our kings be better human beings and transform their lives after bangin🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
It would be nice if u could get all those guys together and debate that topic.
From my observation this seems like AC and Caesar are saying the same and on the same page. And the way Kev edited the video I don't know if he did it on purpose 🤔🤔or it just happened like that but it seems he is using Caesars interview to help people overstand what AC is saying in AC interview(when it cuts from AC to Ceasar)since people have been saying they can't overstand AC because how he talks especially when someone is liein to him in his face...🤣🤣🤣(I could always overstand AC) but that was hard Kev...👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾💪🏾💪🏾!! Everyone except Elgin and Jack(which are brothers) line up to AC time-lines. People front on AC because he his self said he was a crip first and brought the cat out the bag about how Piru's were Crips at one time 😳 But keep up the great work Kev....you killin them. You keep sharpening your craft and it shows....got to respect that!! Amen brotha Kev!!
I was sayin the same thing. AC and Caesar time-line lines up and they weren't in the same room. And the fact that Kev n SMac looked up the articles and never found the term Blood used in the time frame Elgin n Jack say the term Blood started. OOOG Frog has same time-line as AC too.
@@marlonbrown2736 BLOOD'S WAS BEING USED IN L.A IN THE 1960'S
WE EVEN HAD A GANG CALLED BLOOD ALLEY IN 1961
AC is hysterical when he gets worked up...lool.. He reminds me of a black version of the clown Captain Spaulding from Rob Zombies movies "House of 1000 Corpses" and "The Devils Rejects."...lmaoo
Too much tv dude
Now I'm not sure but I stayed in San Diego and Lincoln Park is Piru. I'm not sure tho .
I think Lincoln Park was Piru then just became bloods later on…
Skyline piru is the largest
Doesn't Lincoln Park wear Green? I knew Skyline was Piru. I don't know if both gangs still consider themselves blood
@@warsame2245 Yes, Lincoln rocks green rags. Does it represent money or is it because their neighborhood high school (Lincoln) main color is green? Maybe a SD native can answer that for us.
is that mitchy slicks neighborhood he rocks green right?
The OG be in AZ, he be coming in the my store at times
Nothing is forever all things will change new generation era will come with a different mindset and start they own with no ties to the old ways of doing things 💵🎒💨💨🔥
PIRU BOUNTY HUNTER BRIMS TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT
La Brims orginal.Ws shoot out to The Gladiators
@@yarddownmuzikgladiatorni2n431
BRIMS GAVE THE RED RAG TO PIRU IN 1973.
PIRU BROUGHT THE RED RAG TO BOUNTY IN 1975.
DENVER LANES WAS ALSO FLYING RED RAGS IN 1974.
@@2Pkb25 Nobody gave Piru anything 💥
@@kaykaywarlord6733 That part
@@2Pkb25 BRIMS WAS SAYING CUZZ & WEARING BLUE BANDANAS , FROM WHAT T. ROGERS STATEMENT . BUT NEVER THE ORIGINAL BOUNTY HUNTERS OR GREEN JACKETS OF WATTS 1969 .
AC =TRUTH
AC reminds me of the cookie monster the way he talks. Lol
Lol
@@Dalvin_Knight I didn’t know he told a lie.
Johnathan George was central city turned Brim gang after Big Country came to Daygo. I'm not Brim but I think it's right
I sincerely believe that AC Moses/King Bobalouie's testimony to be more precise
Why Jackamoe the only one that saying he was BL45D in 72 .. everyone else saying 74
Because his brother in law Elgin (Brim leader) said the same thing and they have an agenda against AC
@@fakenews6142 his story makes him look brazy tho. On top of the word BL45Ds not even being in the newspaper Smfh
@@Spadoe4five Jimmy Lavender (Bishop leader) stopped Bangin in early 1975……He said he never was a Blood……
Bexause JACKAMOE standing on hiz Square ⬛👌🏽👏😎 FUXK what a ckrab saying we predate all of em we been blood way before a blood alliance in prison that PIRU CKRAB talk is for Loserz on BL30DZ
@@fakenews6142 I wasn’t talking about him. Kus he the only one that said he was never BL45D
If red is in your blue, you got a super army
I never really hear Crenshaw Mafia in these debates
They didn’t exist yet
They came later
Crenshaw mafia super big in Denver I've heard bigger then LA it's the main bloods gang
@@siriusblackwhitebuffalo7370 yeah they're super deep out here in Colorado
@@siriusblackwhitebuffalo7370 I think their exposure in movies, banging on wac, and the cool sounding name and fly brand helped with nationwide notoriety and establishing knock-off gangs outside of california.
Elgin seems like he's still up to something lmao idk what but he just comes off shaddY without the .380 lol that's just my opinion
Kev Mack The Brims we're fighting vs Crips as soon as they started.. The Crips were the new gang, and didn't take off on the Eastside like they did once Raymond Washington took it to the Westside.. Before the Crips the tribes were more on the black tip, wasn't, jumping or robbing other blacks, when the Crips began they weren't with that. Thus, those older tribes were forced to unite begetting the Bloods. Kev don't make it seem like the Crips had no resistance from the Pirus in Compton, the BH or the Brims.. You want the real, come to the Brims, Big Angel, Toni Lucious, Katnip, Eddie Watts.. That's the best advice I could give you.
Before the Crips the Tribes were on the Black Tip ?
Police & Court Records Say Different.
Newspaper Articles Say Different.
High School Records Say Different.
Plenty of fighting & shooting between Black Gangs & Black "Social Clubs" before the Crips came on the Scene. None were on the "Black Tip".
@@joemosely9383 HE SAID NOTHING BUT FACTS... BRIMS ARE THE INFLUENCE OF BLOOD'S , BUT I NOW SEE THE AGENDA FROM FROG ON THIS CHANNEL.
@@2Pkb25 that's debatable.
But look back at the origins of the Brims & Pirus on the streets in the early-70s.
Neither one pushed or expanded a Blood Movement in the Early-70s.
The Brims started roughly around 59th & Vermont in 1972. Before that they was Apple Hats, according to Eldrin, an undisputed Co-founder of the Brims.
Brims pushed a hard-line on expanding Brims across the Westside, similar to the Crip Expansion.
59 Brims....From 59th & Vermont they pushed into the 60s & Harvard Park
62-64-61 Brims , in what today is 62HPB, 67NH, 65MG and NS83 hoods.
59 Brims
61-62-64 Brims
Van-Brims in the 50s.
Untouchable Brims in the 50s.
Orchard Block Brims in the 40s.
Fruit Town Brims in the 30s.
Black Stone Brims in the Jungles & 20s.
Broadway Brims.
They were pushing and expanding Brims, not Bloods on the streets.
They was converting areas and gangs into Brims.
Same with the Piru Street Boys. They pushed Piru into different neighborhoods in Compton, not Bloods.
The whole Anti-Crip thing, meeting up in CYA, and bonding to resist the Crips and creating a title/label so they can identify as One, makes all the sense in the World.
All these teenage Anti-Crips were catching cases in 72 going to CYA, meeting up for the 1st time. And what do they have in common?
It's just logical.
There was no Need for an Alliance til they hit the system and their numbers were too short.
Alliances are birthed in the Jail System.
@@joemosely9383 NOT EVERY ALLIANCE WAS BIRTHED IN JAIL...AND T RODGERS WAS THE FIRST TO TELL THAT STORY NOT A.C !!!!
T RODGERS SAID HE DON'T RVEN KNOW WHO A.C IS 😂😂😂😂
BLOODSTONE BRIMS
BLACKSTONE BRIMS
HOOVER PARK BRIMS
FRUIT TOWN BRIM
THESE ARE GANGS THAT BECAME ALLIES WITH BRIMS ON THE STREET'S..
@@joemosely9383 HOW WEREN'T THEY PUSHING BLOOD'S ?
AREN'T BRIMS BLOOD'S ?
SO WHAT MADE THEM BLOOD'S ?
YTS DIDNT MAKE THEM BLOOD'S BECAUSE THEY WAS ALREADY UNDER AN ANTI CRIP ALLIANCE WITH BPS & DENVER LANES BEFORE 1974...
BRIMS FIGHTING CRIPS AND WEARING RED RAGS MADE THEM BLOOD'S..
SO THAT WOULD BE 1972 × 1973
THEY STILL PUSH BRIMS TODAY,
AIN'T NO SUCH THING AS HARVARD PARK BLOOD'S,EVEN THOUGH EVERYBODY KNOW THEY BLOOD'S...
SO WHAT MAKES THEM BLOOD'S ?
THEY CREATED EVERYTHING BLOOD'S AND PIRU REPRESENT TODAY
What is a ace deuce???
a hat
What kind
@@jayskywalker5049 like a Dobb Hat
OG Lil Caesar, Ricochet, Murderer , Dirty Red , Shout Out To The Families 💪🏾🩸
The Bloodstones and the "Bloods" seem to be the point of confusion.
What’s the confusion about it ?
Other Bloods, bloodstone villains, and a black PStone bloods are all different gangs. But all under blood alliance.
@@Tattooniac Different gangs in name ,but they’re all under the same Blood moniker
@@Tattooniac yes,but it had nothing to do with the 'Blood" umbrella.They were independent non Crip gangs.
you must live here in l.a. Its easier to follow for natives who know the areas their speaking on, and the juvenile jail system.
Lil Ceasar str8 to it you on the radar
Im far from an expert but i seen an old TH-cam video with a dude was talking about the crips and denver lanes etc. He didnt sya they were bloods he spoke of them as if they were separate gangs. Big shot out to the person that edited and spliced these videos. AC was kind of funny in some parts.
Brims in LA shot.out to.da Gladiators
30's 504 214 Dalton Ave Aliso Village
Harvard Park Fruit Town VAnNess Gang
Rollin 50s untouchables unton orchard
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I like what king say "why was you a blood" and barefoot say the same
Most don't see the blood was always they omw gang and still till this day its BH Piru Familys Brims Lanes Swan Be Bob and STL
Ac got a point but my pops is right, when yal was locked up shit was goin down but not to say the ones in prison didn’t know everything they new a Lil but not everything an A LOT of shit was transforming. WsB cPP 148 149 NWA Ruboy Tae aka baby jackamoe az 8line Kev u a legend for this. Shout out to all the dinosaurs of this gangbangin shit on both sides. Represent ur neighborhood wit peace inshallah
It's good the old heads all know there history's not like the kids this generation they wouldn't have a clue what there own problems are these days.
The infamous "Crip WhiStle"
WHO started THAT?
That's a whistle that predate any of the gangs we know today..many whistle my first time hearing it was in the mid sixties around 65.When I spoke on my jacket being stolen at school doing a fight that was 1967..it was a boomer jacket .in 1970 the crips started wearing them.so just like the whistle it became a crip thing..read my book it speaks about the jacket in 67....take care
@@jimmylavender3895 Thank You, Sir.
@@jimmylavender3895 I remember that fashion Faze.
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This shit is embarrassing, everyone only remembers what they remember or want to remember.
I'm brim !!!! Official 64th street brim ! People don't know the depths of this set ! And what it consists of ,only real Bloods know what this life about! Sowoo! Woo! That's the greet and end of greet get it straight! Don't get it fucked up we humble but we vicious! We don't lose! I'm a wolf in the game ,so I know a lil something, I came from the trenches but can always learn more, WESSSSSSSSTSIIIIIDE!!!!!