honestly, so long as you can drive really good then you probably could. orbitron uses an ai to literally just orbit the enemy before going in for the kill, i'd assume their movements would be at least somewhat predictable.
@@ReDelta101"random obscure bots like Biohazard" What in the fuck are you talking about? Biohazard won four championships. That's like saying "obscure bots like Bite Force".
Just some suggestions: - Bigger weapon that is further inside the shell (so same point where you hit opponent, but more of the weapon is protected). - Paper mache toppings up top (only dangerous when facing a flame but also hilarious for the same reason). - Color the wheel to match the toppings (green wheel?). Other than that I just want to say that I love the design, and seeing it work at this weight class makes me giddy with joy. I love all the unconventional robots (NHRL whack bots are amongst my favourites and seeing bots like Timber Viper and Monkfish do well also makes me so happy).
I freaking love watching a huge taco move like a submarine around the Battlebox. Oh my god, I hope the TV show gets confirmed for a second season and Taco Tuesday gets featured. Complete side note: Damn, dude’s got eyes like freshly calved glacier. Good god.
The final shot from the animated intro is perfect for merch. Probably just swap out the white effect with some smaller lightning, so it doesn't overlap the letters. And it'd be good to go.
This is my new favorite Battlebot. I won't say why, I now may be a tad biased. Merch is definitely a good direction as you gain more traction. Count me in on a hoody.
Great video! Love battle bots and love this concept. Was pretty cool to have the personal perspective and ride along. Good luck! Can't wait to see you guys in the main event! 😎
If you have the time and bandwidth, look into designing your own omniwheel. The "official" ones are used for 360 degree movement/force application (and have some shortcomings) whereas yours has to apply force in one axis and roll in the other - much simpler/more robust and you could likely get there with a bunch of wheels on a hoop.
I reccomend this so much too. In regards to the design requirements the "omniwheel" would only need to go back and forth in two directions. So it would be more of a "dual-wheel". One large wheel with multiple smaller wheels fixed around it´s circumference would likely work quite well. In the back forth direction it would roll free, and if rotated sideways the wheel would grip. The benefit is that a quiet grippy wheel surface could be used and make for a lot of traction sideways, but impact the back and forwards drive very little.
Carter , I am so happy you got to do this. I have been watching you for many years. I am especially happy you got a win against disarray. Also I designed a Lego version of Taco Tuesday
The belts jumped to my eye immediately and I was not really surprised when they got wrecked. Personally, in addition to the dual blade arrangement I would also add some form of shielding. That could safe it from an accidental hit. If you really don´t want to go with some form of multidirectional wheel, I would throw another Idea in. A hard wheel with a sharp "skid" profile. Kind of like ice skate skids. As the arena floor is steel, you would need quite the hard material, either, depending on what steel the floor is made from, hardened steel or carbide, but it could work. The profile is parallel to the back and forward direction, so when driving it slides over the floor, but when turned the sharp skids turn into teeth that grip the steel floors and give traction.
That was great amazing to see it in action that hit and flip was perfect, great work from all of you that made it, looking forward to seeing more. =D Shame about the grippy battle box holding it back, Omniwheels are good, but stock ones might be too fragile, and custom one might be hella expensive, all pros and cons lol
That’s actually twice a battlebot fight has had one bot win the first day, and then the second day the bot that won the previous day suffered a knockout. It first happened with Doom and Horizon, and now it’s happened with this
I love the taco. Proving grounds is such a great concept since it allows first time builders to actually get some box time and figure out the flaws before entering a trash bot into the championship. Also funny that there are now two food-themed bots with some cool innovation behind them (ripperoni with the counter-flywheel system and now the taco with T drive). I get the dislike for omni-wheels since they can be pretty delicate but your turning wheel is pretty big and seemingly well protected by the frame so you should be able to build something really sturdy. You can also look into some kind of wheel thread type in the form of bristles or something else that will help maintain grip in one direction while allowing it to slide more easily in the other, but an omni-wheel is probably the best solution.
Oh i loved his little bot as well, i am also kinda hoping he makes an ant wieght Burrito or Bot-rito same drive system, and a horizontal spinner would be funny because it could just roll across the arena till it self righted
if you're not fully locked in on the dual discs, another way to protect the belts more would just be a larger disc- the belts get hit because the disc doesn't stick out far enough to hit the opponent before they hit your hub! this would also seriously improve KO power, crucial since you'll probably never win a shoving match
This would also give the option to have the whole weapon assembly further inside the bot where the point of contact is still the same but more of the shell is covering the sides.
Great showing. Congrats on the trip to Vegas. Raise or tilt the yaw wheel up with some sort of actuator when using fwd/rev. That way the taco shell drags on the floor instead of the wheel.
yaaa.... Krave only really works with a trap door, that's the unfortunate reality. It's too large to have enough weight left over for a decent weapon....
How about two front wheels. That would allow you to have differential steering and give you a lot more traction. It would also stop the thing from flopping over on its side all the time which would probably help with control.
I love this bot and thanks for the these videos. I would love to start building one and have an idea just as unique, but first I would have to hit the Poweball to hire people that know how to build one. my concept is well tested at a much larger scale than would fit inside the arena
im kind of impressed how well the shell held up despite being made of plastic. like, yeah it got chunks bitten out of it but the other team didnt get to any of the taco insides
Would be cool if the steering wheel was on a little swivel-joint that raises and lowers the wheel a little bit. When ever you spin the rear wheel, it would drop down at the same time and hit the ground, but when you don't spin it, a spring would pull it back up so it could just drag the rear of the taco freely on the ground. Not sure if that would still allow for responsive steering, and it would still break the forward motion as soon as you try to turn, but might be worth a try. Having that mechanism inside the taco would probably be better than trying some kind of vulnerable omniwheel setup.
How about putting some rubber vibration dampers between the shell and its connections to the frame? That way the shock vibrations to the frame and internals would be reduced immensely and make the bot much harder to kill and able to tank more shots thus requiring less maintenance even between "safe" fights. They don't have to be very thick or add much weight. Regarding the weapon: still think the mono bar is the best option. You don't even need to make it heavier, just a little thinner on the axial size (in other words making it less "wide angle") and longer so that it has more reach and bite for the same mass. More reach would allow to sit the weapon assembly deeper into the taco so the belts would be harder to reach or allow to put a steel cover cover over the belts like some vert spinners already do. Good luck!
The rubber idea was actually part of the initial design, I think team overhaul calls them “wubs”. We ended up not doing it simply due to time and weight, but V1.5 we may bring that idea back. My general combat robot building philosophy is (1) “empty space totally counts as armor”, and (2) “bend so you don’t break,” and rubber spacers are aligned with both of these goals. Re. The weapon…. Yeah, you might be right. We may take a look at the deathroll weapon, and learn from that.
ive been waiting so long for this vid could do with some wedgelets beside the weapon for those nasty wedges if you could lose some weight somewhere or try to incorperate the needle like you did with your ant weight
@@CarterHurd Some times The narration was consistent but the background sounds from the footage too loud or the other way around. I would normalize the sound of the footage you use. Than i would normalize the volume of your narration so it is all consistent. After normalizing you don't need to worry for peaks and such, but it introduces other problems if you have a huge difference in volume in the source. Then you joust need to adjust the volume of both tracks, till you are happy.
The main issue is the voiceover, which gets a little hard to make out over the battle scenes especially. I think if you just bump up the VO by a few decibels you'll be fine. (I love this robot and I really hope we see it on the show one day!)
Look up the wheel that a Smartdrive for a wheelchair has, its got little rollers on it so you can turn the wheelchair, yet pushes straight on with no issue. Works really well for me and would do exactly what you want. You could likely make one yourself fairly easily.
Mmm... If you use a double vertical spinner, could you have the 2 blades running slightly askew to provide cover to the central belt? Should still save money on a beater bar. I haven't seen anyone running a similar concept, so I'm not sure if it's arguably harder on a design point of view or just not practical. I also realized that "Just not Practical" would be a great name for a bot :)
I’m super curious what you dislike about an Omni wheel for the steering wheel application. It seems like the perfect thing, in terms of the functionality you’re after. Slips fully in the direction you need it to, grips fully in the direction you need it to. Is it a fragility issue? Could do a UHMW wheel with tpu rollers that’d be able to take a ton of abuse. It just seems like exactly the right use case, but I imagine you have a good reason.
@@CarterHurd Definitely understandable. Idk if you’ve watched James Bruton’s channel, but he makes super large Omni wheels (bike sized wheels) a lot, and I think if you followed a similar process but CNC’d the main piece out of one hunk of uhmw and printed the rollers in tpu or used some metal rollers, it’d be a nice end result. Might have to do two pieces of UHMW for significant cost savings. I think it’s at least worth pricing out. Hope to see you guys accepted on the show or on another proving grounds!
Maybe your front drive wheel could be a lot bigger to give more traction, as long as it's inside the taco? There was no substance to your Omni wheel dismissal.
Does PCBWay basically pay for _all_ creator TH-cam content these days? Please don't take that as a complaint, but I think it's time I buy them a toothbrush and give them my spare key. But really, let's Tacobotit PCBWay.
Honestly speaking, I have faith in Taco Tuesday. At first glance I thought it might just be a joke bot. I mean, it looks unusual. But then you win a fight against a bot that looks more/less traditional. That could be promising. It might take a few attempts like Huge did, but it will be competitive at some point.
I understand why you would be sceptical of omi wheels but some of the larger thin version like @jamesbruton had made in the past would be perfect for this build
No substance to my Omni wheel dismissal? I didn’t think I needed to elaborate, the complexity and fragility is obvious One cheap and simple off the shelf part, vs a custom fabrication project consisting of… well let’s say the Omni wheel has 30 rollers… each will need 2 bearings… that’s 30*3… and each roller will need an axle, so make that 30*4 = 120 brand new components to add to the design. Vs 1 single component. The question is whether 120 additional parts, plus designing and CNCing a custom central hub and making some spares is worth the decrease in friction when sliding sideways vs alternative solutions. It may be worth it. We shall see. But the cons are clear. EDIT: I’m sorry if this was mean. Not trying to be mean. Just things that seem simple become complicated once you need to make them robust enough to survive combat.
Just more complex: More parts, more complicated, heavier, kinda difficult to make super durable I like them in other applications. Just not for combat robots.
you know what… I wonder if the JB weld for plastic could be used to fill in holes in the UHMW. Idk if the bond is strong enough for it to be structural, but…
Well, I always wanted to be on Robot Wars. But I got no robot building experience. And BBC cancelled it. Twice. Maybe if it gets revived again, y'all can travel to the U.K. and enter your robot in it.
10k for the egg beater sounds crazy......What material do you need?? Do they have to be one piece? If you did a multi steel layup, weld, then bolt it together could probably make it for 2k or so. Message me if interested
You can’t typically get away worth normal steel, you want Hardox (our spinner was Hardox 450 and even that only lasted 2 fights). And yes, it needs to be 1 piece. Hardox basically restricts you to either waterjet (this is what we used) or wire EDM. Feel free to email me at carterhurdrobotics@gmail
Composite/welded weapons are inherently fragile compared to single-piece and with a beater type weapon it will surely crack on the welds since the stresses will be located in just a couple of points. You have to imagine that you're hitting your welded thing on something that is also welded steel, the stress goes both ways. Many people have tried and it only really works at lighter weight classes. There are also teams that tried dado-like stacks of discs to form a beater but the problem there is that you lose most of the moment-of-inertia advantages that a beater bar has, since it's carrying more weight in the center of the weapon that doesn't help much. The super high cost for beater weapons is due to it having to be machined out of a single block of abrasion resistant (AR or Hardox) or even tool steel (which is ridiculously tough to work with and a lot more expensive than just standard mild steel from just sheer machining/cutting hours), and then it has to be heat-treated by a special company that can work with such huge pieces of steel and takes literal days in ovens and slowly cooling down.
Yeah, that would make it about 50lbs overweight, though, even with thin titanium. If we wanted a metal shell we’d need to scale the whole thing down to copperhead-size. There are pros and cons to having a large robot vs something compact like minotaur: one con is the need to use less dense materials.
@CarterHurd ahh I see. I guess I can understand knowing omniwheels are prone to jamming due to debris However I am attempting to solve this for my antweight bot.
We might just have to, as mentioned at the end. I just have a philosophical issue with going from something that is 3 parts to something that is 30+ parts. Also, it would have to be custom to survive.
I love taco tuesday, unironically i think your's would win against hacksmith industries new bot too
Pinning this so people can fight in the comments, lol
honestly, so long as you can drive really good then you probably could. orbitron uses an ai to literally just orbit the enemy before going in for the kill, i'd assume their movements would be at least somewhat predictable.
Yes, battle bots keyboard warriors...
Fight!
lol
I'm calling dad
Bring it onnnn!!! We'll have done a lot of upgrades by then 😉
This was truly a childhood dream come true - I remember watching robots like GoldDigger, Backlash, and Biohazard growing up.
Man what a list, legendary bots like GoldDigger, but also some random obscure bots like Biohazard and Backlash
@@ReDelta101lol. I think golddigger was my all-time favorite from the OG series…I’d love to see it brought back as a melty brain
TACO TUESDAY! That bot looks crazily cool. Like the taco theme Battlebot. Hoping that will join the official Battlebots roster.
I didn't have cable :\
But I still loved the game they came out with for the Gameboy advance :)
Also tombstone is tied with Taco Tacticians :)
@@ReDelta101"random obscure bots like Biohazard"
What in the fuck are you talking about? Biohazard won four championships. That's like saying "obscure bots like Bite Force".
Just some suggestions:
- Bigger weapon that is further inside the shell (so same point where you hit opponent, but more of the weapon is protected).
- Paper mache toppings up top (only dangerous when facing a flame but also hilarious for the same reason).
- Color the wheel to match the toppings (green wheel?).
Other than that I just want to say that I love the design, and seeing it work at this weight class makes me giddy with joy. I love all the unconventional robots (NHRL whack bots are amongst my favourites and seeing bots like Timber Viper and Monkfish do well also makes me so happy).
I like the toppings idea
And regarding 1: we are gonna look into Deathroll’s weapon. We shall see.
@@CarterHurdideal having chili pepper attached to the taco as a flame thrower
I guess you could use some flame retarding paint layer to protect the paper maché from bursting into flames immerdiately.
@@ProtonOne11 What? No! You douse them kerosine so they go Flame On from the tiniest spark.
I seriously hope y’all get accepted , I need to see you fight other comparators on tv
I freaking love watching a huge taco move like a submarine around the Battlebox. Oh my god, I hope the TV show gets confirmed for a second season and Taco Tuesday gets featured.
Complete side note: Damn, dude’s got eyes like freshly calved glacier. Good god.
did i just hear, TACO MERCH!!!! if it ships to the netherlands ill take very quickly. cant wait to see more of this wonderfull thing
Yes, please! I want to cover my denim jacket in bot pins :D
The final shot from the animated intro is perfect for merch. Probably just swap out the white effect with some smaller lightning, so it doesn't overlap the letters. And it'd be good to go.
Congrats on the win!! Such an awesome bot, looking forward to seeing whats next in store for TacoTuesday🌮
Excellent work! Really cool to see this work out as well as it did. Taco Tuesday for the win!
Yeah I would Love Taco Tuesday Merch! You have a great thing going with this Bot! Love it! Honestly one of my favorite bots Ever!
This is my new favorite Battlebot. I won't say why, I now may be a tad biased. Merch is definitely a good direction as you gain more traction. Count me in on a hoody.
Great video! Love battle bots and love this concept. Was pretty cool to have the personal perspective and ride along. Good luck! Can't wait to see you guys in the main event! 😎
Congrats for having a chance to be part of this show and actually winning a match!
This is a brilliant food-themed battlebot. Well done, all around.
Congrats on your achievements so far ! Hope you get accepted into the next season and that you continue to do well and kick some bolts!
Great video and great fight! That was so much fun and hope to see you in Vegas again!
I hope I can see taco vs. pizza someday.
Idk I think we need to see more of this bot before it's ready to take on a top tier like RIPperoni
If you have the time and bandwidth, look into designing your own omniwheel. The "official" ones are used for 360 degree movement/force application (and have some shortcomings) whereas yours has to apply force in one axis and roll in the other - much simpler/more robust and you could likely get there with a bunch of wheels on a hoop.
I reccomend this so much too. In regards to the design requirements the "omniwheel" would only need to go back and forth in two directions. So it would be more of a "dual-wheel". One large wheel with multiple smaller wheels fixed around it´s circumference would likely work quite well. In the back forth direction it would roll free, and if rotated sideways the wheel would grip. The benefit is that a quiet grippy wheel surface could be used and make for a lot of traction sideways, but impact the back and forwards drive very little.
I love this odd but effective design.cant wait to see more of yall, ome day i hope yall get to fight ripperoni for some food on food violence
Carter , I am so happy you got to do this. I have been watching you for many years. I am especially happy you got a win against disarray. Also I designed a Lego version of Taco Tuesday
Such a big fan of your bot. Hope to see you on the show in one way or another.
The belts jumped to my eye immediately and I was not really surprised when they got wrecked. Personally, in addition to the dual blade arrangement I would also add some form of shielding. That could safe it from an accidental hit.
If you really don´t want to go with some form of multidirectional wheel, I would throw another Idea in. A hard wheel with a sharp "skid" profile. Kind of like ice skate skids. As the arena floor is steel, you would need quite the hard material, either, depending on what steel the floor is made from, hardened steel or carbide, but it could work. The profile is parallel to the back and forward direction, so when driving it slides over the floor, but when turned the sharp skids turn into teeth that grip the steel floors and give traction.
That was great amazing to see it in action that hit and flip was perfect, great work from all of you that made it, looking forward to seeing more. =D
Shame about the grippy battle box holding it back, Omniwheels are good, but stock ones might be too fragile, and custom one might be hella expensive, all pros and cons lol
That’s actually twice a battlebot fight has had one bot win the first day, and then the second day the bot that won the previous day suffered a knockout. It first happened with Doom and Horizon, and now it’s happened with this
I love the taco. Proving grounds is such a great concept since it allows first time builders to actually get some box time and figure out the flaws before entering a trash bot into the championship.
Also funny that there are now two food-themed bots with some cool innovation behind them (ripperoni with the counter-flywheel system and now the taco with T drive).
I get the dislike for omni-wheels since they can be pretty delicate but your turning wheel is pretty big and seemingly well protected by the frame so you should be able to build something really sturdy. You can also look into some kind of wheel thread type in the form of bristles or something else that will help maintain grip in one direction while allowing it to slide more easily in the other, but an omni-wheel is probably the best solution.
Oh i loved his little bot as well, i am also kinda hoping he makes an ant wieght Burrito or Bot-rito same drive system, and a horizontal spinner would be funny because it could just roll across the arena till it self righted
if you're not fully locked in on the dual discs, another way to protect the belts more would just be a larger disc- the belts get hit because the disc doesn't stick out far enough to hit the opponent before they hit your hub! this would also seriously improve KO power, crucial since you'll probably never win a shoving match
This is also on the table, and I agree with your point
This would also give the option to have the whole weapon assembly further inside the bot where the point of contact is still the same but more of the shell is covering the sides.
Great showing. Congrats on the trip to Vegas. Raise or tilt the yaw wheel up with some sort of actuator when using fwd/rev. That way the taco shell drags on the floor instead of the wheel.
Oh god that’s even more complex than an Omni wheel
Friggin awesome. Good luck to you.
Awesome job I hope to see you guys on the show
Congratulations on the win!
I love your vision on this! This robot is almost ready for prime time battle - love it. Cool looking too!
Hey now, don’t be an ass. Everyone has to start somewhere. We are 1 and 1 with a very clear list of things to improve.
@@CarterHurd sorry you are hurt by my comments
Oh man, I'm so excited to see this. Hoped for a giant Krave but I'll accept another food-based bot.
yaaa.... Krave only really works with a trap door, that's the unfortunate reality. It's too large to have enough weight left over for a decent weapon....
This is beyond awesome
this taco is a lot more badass than expected!
0:14 that noise triggered sone PTSD in me... it sounds so similar to Panzer from the Zombies map Origins... 🙃
Bro it really cool and fun to see these fight
How about two front wheels. That would allow you to have differential steering and give you a lot more traction. It would also stop the thing from flopping over on its side all the time which would probably help with control.
This is only like half a joke but you should try and get a Taco Bell sponsorship
Doritos Locos Taco Tuesday
Unfortuntaely Battlebots has some really stupid sponsor rules. They generally don't allow big National or international sponsors.
It's definitely a promising design well done!
cool video! I joined Wildcat robotics this year so hopefully I can compete with the big leagues soon!
I love this bot and thanks for the these videos. I would love to start building one and have an idea just as unique, but first I would have to hit the Poweball to hire people that know how to build one. my concept is well tested at a much larger scale than would fit inside the arena
start with an antweight to prove out the idea first
im kind of impressed how well the shell held up despite being made of plastic. like, yeah it got chunks bitten out of it but the other team didnt get to any of the taco insides
Yup, it’s 1” thick and the same stuff as HUGE’s wheels. Just like the HUGE wheels, it can take lots of damage before falling apart
@@CarterHurd Im curious if you ever considered Tegris? I know Huge runs wheels of both types
That last weapon on weapon 🤣
Love it. You should have a mini bot called Taquito
Im all for the Taco 2esday merch!
What a great video!!! Go Taco!!
Would be cool if the steering wheel was on a little swivel-joint that raises and lowers the wheel a little bit. When ever you spin the rear wheel, it would drop down at the same time and hit the ground, but when you don't spin it, a spring would pull it back up so it could just drag the rear of the taco freely on the ground. Not sure if that would still allow for responsive steering, and it would still break the forward motion as soon as you try to turn, but might be worth a try. Having that mechanism inside the taco would probably be better than trying some kind of vulnerable omniwheel setup.
Taco Tuesday better gets accepted for having a unique bot compared to most vert spinners out there!
huge respect just for fact, that u doin what u love and we can feel this throw video. (sry for bad eng)
thanks!!
How about putting some rubber vibration dampers between the shell and its connections to the frame? That way the shock vibrations to the frame and internals would be reduced immensely and make the bot much harder to kill and able to tank more shots thus requiring less maintenance even between "safe" fights. They don't have to be very thick or add much weight.
Regarding the weapon: still think the mono bar is the best option. You don't even need to make it heavier, just a little thinner on the axial size (in other words making it less "wide angle") and longer so that it has more reach and bite for the same mass. More reach would allow to sit the weapon assembly deeper into the taco so the belts would be harder to reach or allow to put a steel cover cover over the belts like some vert spinners already do.
Good luck!
The rubber idea was actually part of the initial design, I think team overhaul calls them “wubs”. We ended up not doing it simply due to time and weight, but V1.5 we may bring that idea back. My general combat robot building philosophy is (1) “empty space totally counts as armor”, and (2) “bend so you don’t break,” and rubber spacers are aligned with both of these goals.
Re. The weapon…. Yeah, you might be right. We may take a look at the deathroll weapon, and learn from that.
ive been waiting so long for this vid could do with some wedgelets beside the weapon for those nasty wedges if you could lose some weight somewhere or try to incorperate the needle like you did with your ant weight
I hate the wedge game, but yes we need the ability to add that for certain situations…
5 months later, disarray gets buttkicked again by Hacksmith's Orbitron
I think an Omni-wheel would be badass on the back. Should work great on the grippy surface.
Grate Video and Fight. The only critique i have is the Audio mixing of your narration.
Any advice on the audio? Just bad because of different mics, or was the volume too low, or..?
@@CarterHurd Some times The narration was consistent but the background sounds from the footage too loud or the other way around. I would normalize the sound of the footage you use. Than i would normalize the volume of your narration so it is all consistent. After normalizing you don't need to worry for peaks and such, but it introduces other problems if you have a huge difference in volume in the source. Then you joust need to adjust the volume of both tracks, till you are happy.
The main issue is the voiceover, which gets a little hard to make out over the battle scenes especially. I think if you just bump up the VO by a few decibels you'll be fine.
(I love this robot and I really hope we see it on the show one day!)
Hey this is a unique design for the Shell. I hope they choose you guys. I want to see you against the Pizza Bot
Look up the wheel that a Smartdrive for a wheelchair has, its got little rollers on it so you can turn the wheelchair, yet pushes straight on with no issue. Works really well for me and would do exactly what you want. You could likely make one yourself fairly easily.
This guy looks like the Hacksmith and Ragnar Lothbrok combined
Mmm... If you use a double vertical spinner, could you have the 2 blades running slightly askew to provide cover to the central belt? Should still save money on a beater bar.
I haven't seen anyone running a similar concept, so I'm not sure if it's arguably harder on a design point of view or just not practical.
I also realized that "Just not Practical" would be a great name for a bot :)
Hacksmiths AI controlled twin rotor weapon bot is cool n all but this bad boy is waaaay cooler. I mean look at it, it’s a freaking taco! 🌮
damn, that was a shell of a fight.
Oh yeah, merch please!
You could try using a foam week for the back.
Tasty! :D
Maybe two mecanum wheels in the rear would improve both the forward and sideways traction.
YESSSS BLOODSHED
The drive wheel size limitation seems only that it needs to be inside the taco, so maybe it could be bigger giving better traction?
Can you get, or make, a giant omni-wheel for the back?
Merch yup
The omni wheel could be sausage links or something
I’m super curious what you dislike about an Omni wheel for the steering wheel application. It seems like the perfect thing, in terms of the functionality you’re after. Slips fully in the direction you need it to, grips fully in the direction you need it to. Is it a fragility issue? Could do a UHMW wheel with tpu rollers that’d be able to take a ton of abuse. It just seems like exactly the right use case, but I imagine you have a good reason.
You’re probably right. I just don’t like things that are made of 30+ parts and need to be custom fabricated. But we might have to…
@@CarterHurd Definitely understandable. Idk if you’ve watched James Bruton’s channel, but he makes super large Omni wheels (bike sized wheels) a lot, and I think if you followed a similar process but CNC’d the main piece out of one hunk of uhmw and printed the rollers in tpu or used some metal rollers, it’d be a nice end result. Might have to do two pieces of UHMW for significant cost savings. I think it’s at least worth pricing out. Hope to see you guys accepted on the show or on another proving grounds!
Merch yes please
Taco!
Maybe your front drive wheel could be a lot bigger to give more traction, as long as it's inside the taco? There was no substance to your Omni wheel dismissal.
Does PCBWay basically pay for _all_ creator TH-cam content these days?
Please don't take that as a complaint, but I think it's time I buy them a toothbrush and give them my spare key.
But really, let's Tacobotit PCBWay.
Honestly speaking, I have faith in Taco Tuesday. At first glance I thought it might just be a joke bot. I mean, it looks unusual. But then you win a fight against a bot that looks more/less traditional. That could be promising. It might take a few attempts like Huge did, but it will be competitive at some point.
I understand why you would be sceptical of omi wheels but some of the larger thin version like @jamesbruton had made in the past would be perfect for this build
I love taco tuesday more than my own liver
you need 2 front wheles for more grip, back omni wheel doesn't sound bad and maybe weapon with bigger reach to put belts further away from action
No substance to my Omni wheel dismissal? I didn’t think I needed to elaborate, the complexity and fragility is obvious
One cheap and simple off the shelf part, vs a custom fabrication project consisting of… well let’s say the Omni wheel has 30 rollers… each will need 2 bearings… that’s 30*3… and each roller will need an axle, so make that 30*4 = 120 brand new components to add to the design. Vs 1 single component. The question is whether 120 additional parts, plus designing and CNCing a custom central hub and making some spares is worth the decrease in friction when sliding sideways vs alternative solutions. It may be worth it. We shall see. But the cons are clear.
EDIT: I’m sorry if this was mean. Not trying to be mean. Just things that seem simple become complicated once you need to make them robust enough to survive combat.
Will this robot have different weapons like an axe or lifter?
Like… add-on weapons?
@@CarterHurd Yes. Like a modular bot
I would like to see merch of Taco Tuesday after watching this video I collect merch from battlebots teams and I'd love to add TT in the bot list
TOCO BOT! :D
Out of curiosity why isn't the rear wheel an omniwheel?
9000 to 15000$ for beater bar!?!?!!!!! 😱
If it’s Hardox and not a normal steel, yuuuup
You ever watch the old Robot Wars from the UK?
Could you expand on why you don't like omni wheels? Whats the draw back, I'm not to familiar with the technical stuff.
Just more complex: More parts, more complicated, heavier, kinda difficult to make super durable
I like them in other applications. Just not for combat robots.
JB Weld and send it!
you know what… I wonder if the JB weld for plastic could be used to fill in holes in the UHMW. Idk if the bond is strong enough for it to be structural, but…
Are you in battlebot champions?
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What’s that building?
Vegas sphere? Idk probably not the real name…
Well, I always wanted to be on Robot Wars. But I got no robot building experience. And BBC cancelled it. Twice. Maybe if it gets revived again, y'all can travel to the U.K. and enter your robot in it.
10k for the egg beater sounds crazy......What material do you need?? Do they have to be one piece? If you did a multi steel layup, weld, then bolt it together could probably make it for 2k or so. Message me if interested
You can’t typically get away worth normal steel, you want Hardox (our spinner was Hardox 450 and even that only lasted 2 fights). And yes, it needs to be 1 piece. Hardox basically restricts you to either waterjet (this is what we used) or wire EDM. Feel free to email me at carterhurdrobotics@gmail
Composite/welded weapons are inherently fragile compared to single-piece and with a beater type weapon it will surely crack on the welds since the stresses will be located in just a couple of points. You have to imagine that you're hitting your welded thing on something that is also welded steel, the stress goes both ways.
Many people have tried and it only really works at lighter weight classes. There are also teams that tried dado-like stacks of discs to form a beater but the problem there is that you lose most of the moment-of-inertia advantages that a beater bar has, since it's carrying more weight in the center of the weapon that doesn't help much.
The super high cost for beater weapons is due to it having to be machined out of a single block of abrasion resistant (AR or Hardox) or even tool steel (which is ridiculously tough to work with and a lot more expensive than just standard mild steel from just sheer machining/cutting hours), and then it has to be heat-treated by a special company that can work with such huge pieces of steel and takes literal days in ovens and slowly cooling down.
got any guaq?
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Maybe replace the back wheel with an omni wheel?
6:45 is that an euc motor?
No, but something very similar from a cheap brand off amazon
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Idd say instead of plastic shell have a titanium shell if you want a chance of surviving against the real good bots
Yeah, that would make it about 50lbs overweight, though, even with thin titanium. If we wanted a metal shell we’d need to scale the whole thing down to copperhead-size. There are pros and cons to having a large robot vs something compact like minotaur: one con is the need to use less dense materials.
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Have you not heard of omni wheels?
I talk about that at the end of the vid
@CarterHurd ahh I see.
I guess I can understand knowing omniwheels are prone to jamming due to debris
However I am attempting to solve this for my antweight bot.
-Why not use a real omni wheel that contains rollers to go side ways?- Edit did not see the end of the video before started to comment.
We might just have to, as mentioned at the end. I just have a philosophical issue with going from something that is 3 parts to something that is 30+ parts. Also, it would have to be custom to survive.
@@CarterHurd What about a molded wheel? Would need a big cast but if you can get something close to the plastic of skateboard wheels that might help.
This bot…… Idk, but I don’t see any practical way to take down claw viper or huge.