Wow that sound test tho. Idk how it was recorded but then played through youtube on a stereo system at home that sounded so clear and deep wow im impressed just online
I'm glad to see you like the Audison. Im putting apk690's in my car next week for the front stage. Cheaper Hertz 6.5 in the rear. And some DD 1112's in the back cause they're incredible and the underseats just aren't enough for me, unfortunately.
People only upgrade to hk because they just want better sound not knowing there's better options out there. Kind of like people who buy soundbars over a proper av set up
Some guy mentioned a few days ago on a Honda civic Bose system...that Pioneer is still the best...REALLY...??? My first introduction to to real hifi was...Rotella cd player, Pioneer A400 amp, NAD 8225 speakers...the moment I stepped into my car playing the same cd ...I realized I need to upgrade...Pioneer is OK...I have Morel in my car with helix amps
Dear Cambridge and Team, Great Work, i am watching your all videos, see if you can also put the names of songs and singers [Keep Up the Good Work] - Thanks from India...
I've just had my scirocco tsi system upgraded, got some Focal is165vw components, an alpine ilx 705D on them which powers them really well, and my previous system subwoofer in custom ported box which is a hertz hx300D running on a hertz hdp1 amp at 2ohms - sounds very nice :)
the iDrive 8.5 system has a new security encryption protocol in which prevents it from being accessed by Bimmercode now, so you can't enable the B&W sound settings anymore in the 2025 LCI. Does that cause an issue with this and completely changing the amp etc? The LCI has only been shipping for a few weeks so I don't think many people if anyone will have tried this yet.
I've got an old 08 plate saab, changed the old pioneer speakers for Hertz Coaxial on the dash, Audison Prima woofers in the door and a Phoenix Gold 8 inch sub box in the boot. Sounds way better.
Massive improvement. So I think what you say is all the DSP is in the amp, does that mean when you a feed from the headunit and do away with the oem amp/dsp giving a clean flat signal perfect for the forza. Or do you have to tap the oem dsp/amp then de-eq the factory curve first so that's still in the loop :( I would not want that.
Depends on the system, we can take an optical input into our amp and the everything is done from there. You may enjoy our tuning video we did on our BMW M5 recently posted :)
I have a F36 chassis 430i grand coupe. The sound is terrible. Came across your video and def gonna consider buying this system for my car hopefully this year. Great video
Can you do a video like this for burmester and burmester high end 3d for mercedes. Have a feeling its the same junk no name parts with just tuning and post processing. For cars 2020+
Is the Audison software available to the end user or just authorized dealer/installers? I already have two new Audison 5.1k amps. Can I use it in a 2024 M340i with a bit one dsp? Or is it just easier to use a Forza Audison amp with the integrated dsp as far as oem integration? I have the HK sound system in my M340i. I’m having a custom carbon fiber sub enclosure made to fit on the driver’s side trunk cubby for a JL Audio 10W6 dual 4 ohm voice coil.
decided to upgrade my sound a bit. adding an audison 10 slim box in the boot. Would changing the factory component speakers make much difference to the overall loudness? my fear is the sub drowing out the top end, and ive never really been happy with the HK standards. thanks
If you ever do a head-to-head test with the BimmerTech Alpha BMW\MINI speaker\amp replacement system compared to the Audison System, please let us know!
I have an M850i with the 16 speaker Harmon Kardon and to be honest, after adjusting the EQ it sounds beautiful. Ton of bass (rear view mirror shakes) and very clear sound, loads of volume. Im not sure if the HK in the 8 series is better than HKs in the BMWs you are mentioning? Even though it sounds great, I've purchased the B&W system for the ambient lights and grilles and also the upgraded sound. Do you know how the B&W compares to the Audison system? According to the specs its a 16 channel 1375W fully-active set-up. So it should be a big upgrade from the current 450W'ish HK?
@CambridgeCarAudio Nice. Upgrading from HK? With default Flat EQ it's not that great but if you increase the low and high end a bit on EQ and add some points to the bass controller, it really sounds great (with logic 7 off). But.. you didn't really answer my question about the Audison Vs B&W 😄
@CambridgeCarAudio lol cute, but it does not "require" professional installation. You just have to tap the amp outputs or use a adapter to bypass it altogether. It's fine I already found them.
Speakers that have frequency cuts made actively by the audio processor (for example: by the Audison bit One DSP) do not use physical crossovers, correct? In other words, in these cases I “never” use physical crossovers, correct?
Is „Harman Kardon a waste“ ? you didn’t really answer this (video title) unfortunately…if the 400 or 700 pound extra coming from Hi-Fi or Basis BMW system is worth this (little) money. For sure a 5000 pound aftermarket package is even better, but for only 400 or 700pound extra I‘d say with the HK you get a lot improvement over base stereo for your money. Probably price value is better than any aftermarket upgrade, right ?
You seriously love to comment on this video 😂 Yes it is better than base obviously but the question is, the 700 is wasted where as an aftermarket it investment and it sound better obviously. If you are happy with HK then that’s cool and all the best, lots of people don’t like it, hence why we have upgraded it again and again over the years 🙏
@@CambridgeCarAudio how much better would you say (in percentage) is HK compared to base Audio? On how much better (percentage) is such a level 4 system compared to base or HK ?
@@vollcare4076 You have to listen to it to understand and compare, HK is better than base obviously, level 4 is miles better than HK. Everyone’s opinion is different but no one has ever said HK is better than when we have upgraded it
@@CambridgeCarAudio for sure, I believe you guys if you get paid 3000-5000 to improve stock HK it will sound massively better: that’s what you can expect for such huge amount of money. But I think that 400 or 700 spend on HK over base stereo has better values for money than spend 5000 pound of you Upgrade the HK by an aftermarket system. So they 400 or 700 is definitely not ‚wasted‘.
@@vollcare4076 no problem, if it’s not for you, that’s cool, nobody is forcing you to spend all evening commenting on a video, enjoy your day and hope you enjoy the sound of HK 🙏
All your videos are great . Been down to your place. On your videos you play some music tracks. Could you tell us what the format the music was playing in ie MP3 , flac and the like Thanks
@@CambridgeCarAudio I’m referring to the “Helix Ci5 S200FM-S2” have you really tested these ?! They should have much more deep base compared to Audison etc. Yes I know the Aufison had been great choise the last years, but this brand new Helix is probably significantly better in deep base
On my BMW M340i with the Harmon Kardon system I prefer to use a custom fiberglass sub enclosure built into the left cubby area of the trunk. I’m considering an Image Dynamics IDMAX 10” for the small required air space of .75 cu ft in a sealed enclosure. What Forza amp/dsp will integrate into the idrive 8 system. Any way to integrate the Audison 5.1k with a bit one HD?
@vollcare4076 This was Level 4 with the 10’’ Prima sub upgrade - if you have HK, you need level 4 upwards, if you have the base system, you can have any of them
Hey guys, ive got the audison speakers and underseat woofers paired with the match up8dsp amplifier in my 2019 g30 that came from factory with hifi. Can you by any chance help me with the settings for the amplifier?
@@CambridgeCarAudio Why do you say that? The installer is quoting £330 for a pair of Prima 165 and some sound deadening to the doors. Ive asked if it will be Prima 165'P' and if so I will go for it but hes gone quiet.
@@darrenlomax1283 because we see so many times where the install is crap and the sound is also. A product is only as good as the person installing. If the foundations aren’t set then upgrading is pointless. For a front speaker upgrade with that set it should be around £900
I put aftermarket system in my 2017 vauxhall corsa 5 door sri vx line.It would destroy your system hands down.Kenwood dabs 5091 DVD cd sat nav ice.pioneer 4 channel 9704 amp.kicker components 100watts rms per channel fronts with treble control adjustable. Alpine components in rear doors with adjustable dB for treble units Alpine 12 inch powered sub in boot front and rear kenwood dash cams and pioneer reverse cam plus all wiring looms. £2700 SUPPLIED AND FITTED. You system upgrade would still leave you wishing for more.Thats the problem.
i've got audison forza installed in my leon. it is total dog shit. we've spent hundreds of hours trying to get a good sound, and it is not possible. do not buy this garbage.
@@CambridgeCarAudio yes, i am blaming the product. the install was done correctly and by the same company that always installs my car sound systems. the system is crap. it is impossible to tune; impossible. i have never had such a complicated system set up. it is clear and obvious that whoever wrote the program for the eq set up, that they have no idea what music is. this shows how out of touch microsoft is, and why everyone in the modern world uses appple. where are you based? i might able to come and show you
Quit embaressing that they charge you hundreds of dollar for a uppgraded sound system, and then they havent even tryed to do a good sound system... 🤷♂️ It's all about the money.. ☹️
Wow that sound test tho. Idk how it was recorded but then played through youtube on a stereo system at home that sounded so clear and deep wow im impressed just online
You should hear it in person 🤩
Very big difference in the sound, you don't need headphones to see a difference.
Very good improvement.
🙏
like You said: "to see"... :)
I'm glad to see you like the Audison. Im putting apk690's in my car next week for the front stage. Cheaper Hertz 6.5 in the rear. And some DD 1112's in the back cause they're incredible and the underseats just aren't enough for me, unfortunately.
👌
People only upgrade to hk because they just want better sound not knowing there's better options out there. Kind of like people who buy soundbars over a proper av set up
Correct
@@CambridgeCarAudioyes, but HK is only ca 700pound extra. Where these aftermarket upgrades start at ca 2500 pounds
@@vollcare4076 I would rather spend £700 on decent speakers and amp over something that sounds shit
Some guy mentioned a few days ago on a Honda civic Bose system...that Pioneer is still the best...REALLY...??? My first introduction to to real hifi was...Rotella cd player, Pioneer A400 amp, NAD 8225 speakers...the moment I stepped into my car playing the same cd ...I realized I need to upgrade...Pioneer is OK...I have Morel in my car with helix amps
Absolutely lovely video very informative and educational
Thank you, really means a lot and I’m glad you found it useful
Dear Cambridge and Team, Great Work, i am watching your all videos, see if you can also put the names of songs and singers [Keep Up the Good Work] - Thanks from India...
@@DIYTech-x8w thank you, we are working on that on future videos
I've just had my scirocco tsi system upgraded, got some Focal is165vw components, an alpine ilx 705D on them which powers them really well, and my previous system subwoofer in custom ported box which is a hertz hx300D running on a hertz hdp1 amp at 2ohms - sounds very nice :)
:)
Excellent video you present extremely well
Thank you kindly!
I have a Golf 7.5 with Dynaudio, do you think it's worth upgrading to the Audison system ?
Yeah, the difference is mega
just change the amplifier Audison Forza or Musway. I´ll buy the second.
dynaudio is trash 😂😂😂😂
@@BiblicResurces i agree bro !! tks
Would love to see how the Audison's compare w/ the Earthquake SWS8xi's... Quite a huge difference in price, that's for sure.
Hard to show that type of comparison unless it is changed over in the same car on the same system
the iDrive 8.5 system has a new security encryption protocol in which prevents it from being accessed by Bimmercode now, so you can't enable the B&W sound settings anymore in the 2025 LCI. Does that cause an issue with this and completely changing the amp etc? The LCI has only been shipping for a few weeks so I don't think many people if anyone will have tried this yet.
No issues that we have come across
Damn that sounds amazing!!! Never heard those underseat subs
🙏🙏🙏🙏
I've got an old 08 plate saab, changed the old pioneer speakers for Hertz Coaxial on the dash, Audison Prima woofers in the door and a Phoenix Gold 8 inch sub box in the boot. Sounds way better.
Niceeee
Massive improvement. So I think what you say is all the DSP is in the amp, does that mean when you a feed from the headunit and do away with the oem amp/dsp giving a clean flat signal perfect for the forza. Or do you have to tap the oem dsp/amp then de-eq the factory curve first so that's still in the loop :( I would not want that.
Depends on the system, we can take an optical input into our amp and the everything is done from there. You may enjoy our tuning video we did on our BMW M5 recently posted :)
I have a F36 chassis 430i grand coupe. The sound is terrible. Came across your video and def gonna consider buying this system for my car hopefully this year. Great video
@@mustang61777 thanks for the support, would love to upgrade your car. Hopefully see you soon
Can you do a video like this for burmester and burmester high end 3d for mercedes. Have a feeling its the same junk no name parts with just tuning and post processing.
For cars 2020+
Would love to, we film what we are working on, when we get one of them in, we will make a video
The Burmeister system is garbage. I have it in my 2019 A Class. My 20 year old Porsche system sounds much better.
Is the Audison software available to the end user or just authorized dealer/installers? I already have two new Audison 5.1k amps. Can I use it in a 2024 M340i with a bit one dsp? Or is it just easier to use a Forza Audison amp with the integrated dsp as far as oem integration? I have the HK sound system in my M340i. I’m having a custom carbon fiber sub enclosure made to fit on the driver’s side trunk cubby for a JL Audio 10W6 dual 4 ohm voice coil.
It is a specialist programme we use. Thank you
The thing with the HK issue is that the ANc is part of it
It has many more issues than just that but yes that is a problem too
decided to upgrade my sound a bit. adding an audison 10 slim box in the boot. Would changing the factory component speakers make much difference to the overall loudness? my fear is the sub drowing out the top end, and ive never really been happy with the HK standards. thanks
Just a speaker change doesn’t buy adding an amp does
hey, what u recommend for an audi a4 b8 2010 with standard speakers !
We have options on our website for this car: www.cambridgecar.audio/
If you ever do a head-to-head test with the BimmerTech Alpha BMW\MINI speaker\amp replacement system compared to the Audison System, please let us know!
Hard to do that as we do not use that other brand
how does that amp intergrate with the M.O.S.T. network in that car with H.K,
If the car has an optical MOST system, we can link into that
Does it makes any improvement if I change H.K. speakers to audison ,on factory H.K. amplifier?
It does, but best it replace all
I have an M850i with the 16 speaker Harmon Kardon and to be honest, after adjusting the EQ it sounds beautiful. Ton of bass (rear view mirror shakes) and very clear sound, loads of volume.
Im not sure if the HK in the 8 series is better than HKs in the BMWs you are mentioning? Even though it sounds great, I've purchased the B&W system for the ambient lights and grilles and also the upgraded sound.
Do you know how the B&W compares to the Audison system? According to the specs its a 16 channel 1375W fully-active set-up. So it should be a big upgrade from the current 450W'ish HK?
We are about to start an install in one of these in 2025
@CambridgeCarAudio Nice. Upgrading from HK? With default Flat EQ it's not that great but if you increase the low and high end a bit on EQ and add some points to the bass controller, it really sounds great (with logic 7 off).
But.. you didn't really answer my question about the Audison Vs B&W 😄
Im back!! I now have a 2012 X5 with the hi-fi optic 9 speaker system. Is that amp plug and play or is there any adapters to bypass oem amp?
Hi, it is not plug and play and requires a professional installation :)
@CambridgeCarAudio lol cute, but it does not "require" professional installation. You just have to tap the amp outputs or use a adapter to bypass it altogether. It's fine I already found them.
@@jaz97 Glad you got it sorted
Speakers that have frequency cuts made actively by the audio processor (for example: by the Audison bit One DSP) do not use physical crossovers, correct? In other words, in these cases I “never” use physical crossovers, correct?
Yes, that is what we meant
Thank you for answering. In your opinion, what would be the "Top Five" audio processors (DSP) on the market today (2024)?
What is the name of the demos songs used at the end?
We use copyright free music - in new videos we will try and list the songs used :)
which package is this on your website? F30 2014. Thanks
Level 4 + Level 1 + Optional 10’’ active Prima sub
Thank you for the fast reply, appreciated 👍🏻
No problem at all, looking forward to upgrading your car soon :) @@benrobinson2955
I have HK and I’m disappointed in the bass response. But unfortunately I can’t do anything cause it’s under a motorplan.
Our systems are fully reversible
@@CambridgeCarAudio I wished I could do it but our motorplan in south Africa is very strict
Is „Harman Kardon a waste“ ?
you didn’t really answer this (video title) unfortunately…if the 400 or 700 pound extra coming from Hi-Fi or Basis BMW system is worth this (little) money.
For sure a 5000 pound aftermarket package is even better, but for only 400 or 700pound extra I‘d say with the HK you get a lot improvement over base stereo for your money.
Probably price value is better than any aftermarket upgrade, right ?
You seriously love to comment on this video 😂 Yes it is better than base obviously but the question is, the 700 is wasted where as an aftermarket it investment and it sound better obviously. If you are happy with HK then that’s cool and all the best, lots of people don’t like it, hence why we have upgraded it again and again over the years 🙏
@@CambridgeCarAudio how much better would you say (in percentage) is HK compared to base Audio?
On how much better (percentage) is such a level 4 system compared to base or HK ?
@@vollcare4076 You have to listen to it to understand and compare, HK is better than base obviously, level 4 is miles better than HK. Everyone’s opinion is different but no one has ever said HK is better than when we have upgraded it
@@CambridgeCarAudio for sure, I believe you guys if you get paid 3000-5000 to improve stock HK it will sound massively better: that’s what you can expect for such huge amount of money.
But I think that 400 or 700 spend on HK over base stereo has better values for money than spend 5000 pound of you Upgrade the HK by an aftermarket system.
So they 400 or 700 is definitely not ‚wasted‘.
@@vollcare4076 no problem, if it’s not for you, that’s cool, nobody is forcing you to spend all evening commenting on a video, enjoy your day and hope you enjoy the sound of HK 🙏
All your videos are great . Been down to your place.
On your videos you play some music tracks. Could you tell us what the format the music was playing in ie MP3 , flac and the like
Thanks
Yes, we can try add that into future videos. This music was from Epidemic sound and played via Bluetooth on both occasions
Test 22:05
:)
i cannot wait to finally get my first dsp in my car will cost thousands of dollars but being waiting my entire lifel lol
Do it, it is worth it
Have you tried Helix Ci5 S200 underseat subs ?
Nope, we have found the Audison ones do sound the best out of all the ones we have tested
@@CambridgeCarAudio I’m referring to the “Helix Ci5 S200FM-S2”
have you really tested these ?!
They should have much more deep base compared to Audison etc.
Yes I know the Aufison had been great choise the last years, but this brand new Helix is probably significantly better in deep base
@@vollcare4076 we haven’t tried them yet
@@CambridgeCarAudio it’s worth a try.
They are a new benchmark for USB bass speaker
On my BMW M340i with the Harmon Kardon system I prefer to use a custom fiberglass sub enclosure built into the left cubby area of the trunk. I’m considering an Image Dynamics IDMAX 10” for the small required air space of .75 cu ft in a sealed enclosure. What Forza amp/dsp will integrate into the idrive 8 system. Any way to integrate the Audison 5.1k with a bit one HD?
No worries, everyone is different in what they have budget for and want. Yes you can use a 5.1k with a bit one.
@@CambridgeCarAudioWill you ship to 🇺🇸?
@@weduhpeople8504 Nope, sorry
Just find an Audison dealer and buy the parts you want
I rejected a golf R last week because the Harman Kardon was so bad. Earlier models of this car had a Fender branded system that was fantastic
Okay, in future if you like the car, we are here for you :)
Hi! Which one would you recommend? BMW F22 (full speaker upgrade for Audison). Should I go for AF C8.14 or AP F8.9?
@@samugab6125 the 12.14
@@CambridgeCarAudio Okay, which one should I choose if the budget is around 5-600 eur (both comes around the same price here)
@@samugab6125do you have Srereo, HiFi or HK ?
@@vollcare4076HK
Can you get me a price for the Prema speaker set for my Harmon Kardon equipped 2024 M340i shipped to 🇺🇸?
We do not ship parts
How much is such a full Audison upgrade incl install costs ?
Compared to the factory HK ?
Here are some options for upgrades with pricing: www.cambridgecar.audio/bmw-all-series-audio-upgrade-packages
@@CambridgeCarAudio these prices, are install costs already included ?
@@vollcare4076 Correct 👌
@@CambridgeCarAudio this level 1-9 upgrades, are these based on a standard BMW stereo system or based on the BMW HK system ?
@vollcare4076 This was Level 4 with the 10’’ Prima sub upgrade - if you have HK, you need level 4 upwards, if you have the base system, you can have any of them
Comparison between Mercedes 100w system and your recommended Audison system .
If you have that car and looking to upgrade, we would love to do the video
Hey guys, ive got the audison speakers and underseat woofers paired with the match up8dsp amplifier in my 2019 g30 that came from factory with hifi. Can you by any chance help me with the settings for the amplifier?
Yes we can offer a tuning service, feel free to call us to discuss
@@CambridgeCarAudio im not in uk tho. Can you do it remotely?
Is the prima a level above the voce?
Nope, one step lower but they make direct BMW fitment options
Im getting prima fitted to my transit. With the hope of upgrading to the voce when money permits
@darrenlomax1283 great, your installer choose is far more important than product always
@@CambridgeCarAudio Why do you say that? The installer is quoting £330 for a pair of Prima 165 and some sound deadening to the doors. Ive asked if it will be Prima 165'P' and if so I will go for it but hes gone quiet.
@@darrenlomax1283 because we see so many times where the install is crap and the sound is also. A product is only as good as the person installing. If the foundations aren’t set then upgrading is pointless. For a front speaker upgrade with that set it should be around £900
audison
Thank you :)
can you drop your spotify playlist lol
All music has to be from a copyright free source on You Tube
The only sound system you should be upgrading on an M2 is the exhaust.
:)
HK is standard in the M2 though
Yes, but we can upgrade it
@@CambridgeCarAudioawesome. mine enters production mid January so I'm watching all M2 content
@@carbonm2 looking forward to upgrading it
In Germany HK is an option, HiFi is Standard
@@vollcare4076incorrect, all G87 have HK system, if you want to get a G42 then PSS is the standard option
I put aftermarket system in my 2017 vauxhall corsa 5 door sri vx line.It would destroy your system hands down.Kenwood dabs 5091 DVD cd sat nav ice.pioneer 4 channel 9704 amp.kicker components 100watts rms per channel fronts with treble control adjustable. Alpine components in rear doors with adjustable dB for treble units Alpine 12 inch powered sub in boot front and rear kenwood dash cams and pioneer reverse cam plus all wiring looms. £2700 SUPPLIED AND FITTED. You system upgrade would still leave you wishing for more.Thats the problem.
Great 👍
@CambridgeCarAudio wasn't being disrespectful.
i've got audison forza installed in my leon. it is total dog shit. we've spent hundreds of hours trying to get a good sound, and it is not possible. do not buy this garbage.
@@mrbungle4163 don’t blame a product. Who did your install?
@@CambridgeCarAudio yes, i am blaming the product. the install was done correctly and by the same company that always installs my car sound systems. the system is crap. it is impossible to tune; impossible. i have never had such a complicated system set up. it is clear and obvious that whoever wrote the program for the eq set up, that they have no idea what music is. this shows how out of touch microsoft is, and why everyone in the modern world uses appple. where are you based? i might able to come and show you
@mrbungle4163 we are based in cambridge. Would be interested to see what’s been done
@@CambridgeCarAudio is this Ed? if so, we've already met.
@ nopeeee
Quit embaressing that they charge you hundreds of dollar for a uppgraded sound system, and then they havent even tryed to do a good sound system... 🤷♂️ It's all about the money.. ☹️
The way of mass production :)
They are both rubbish if your going to upgrade do it properly, Focal, Zapco, Helix , Brax to name a few Audison and HK are box shifters not HQ
😂 ok mate