Based on What Ambedkar Said and Stood For, There Is No Way Modi Can Be His 'Bhakt'-Shashi Tharoor
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In a 27-minute interview to Karan Thapar for The Wire, the gulf between Ambedkar’s views and positions and the BJP’s beliefs and practices was explored in terms of several critical issues. They are Hindu raj, Hinduism, treatment of the minorities, how easily democracy can transform into dictatorship when you have a landslide of popular support, the imposition of Hindi and the growing and increasing differences between North India and South India.
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I an not Indian, but recently read the volumes of Ambedkar, truly a great and fearless man. He understood the problems and challenges that India faced.
Whats your nationality and how did you come to know about Dr Ambedkar?Yes he is very famous and is considered indian version of martin luther king.
@@robbythepoorgamer4356 I am Swedish, and a programmer by trade, but also have a great interest in history, antiquities, and the history of India. So I naturally knew about Ambedkar and some of his impact on modern India, but never studied in depth what he wrote, until recently; which made me appreciate the man and his intellect that much more.
Write as Dr Ambedkar no singular use of the name
@@IMAniruddha_09 Giving implicit orders to people on how to write and what to write, in comment sections, is bad netiquette and improper decorum.
Ambedkar bulldozed his way in the reservation policy and destroyed merit and capability over caste based reservation.
The country is still paying the price
Great people like Dr Ambedkar belong to all times. He is not restricted to one country or continent. His wisdom, his views about world politics is indisputable, indispensable and applicable particularly and specially now in India. One can fool all the people some of the time; some of the people all the time; but not all the people all the time. Congratulations to both Karan for choosing such a great topic and Dr Tharoor for disseminating such great useful knowledge among the people. 🙏🙏👌👍
You should read his critical views on Islam
@@SunilSingh-eo4bl Buddha is not the Bouddhaavatara of lord Vishnu. Illiterates and idiotically ignorants think Bhagavan Buddha is incarnation of Vishnu. It is not so.
22:30 Ambedkar truly was a visionary, sad that the same rules applies today with regards to North vs South, A conservative, religiously intolerant & superstitious North imposing it's disregard onto the Progressive, tolerant and rational South.
@@SunilSingh-eo4bl then you should read his 22vows . That it's a fake that budha is incarnation of vishnu. Br. Ambedkar and Archeologicst have proven that budha is historical character. Unlike vishnu. Budhism and hinduism are different according Br ambedkar you should first budhism
Hinduism is said to divide people and in contrast, Islam is said to bind people together. This is only a half-truth. For Islam divides as inexorably as it binds. Islam is a close corporation and the distinction that it makes between Muslims and non-Muslims is a very real, very positive and very alienating distinction. The brotherhood of Islam is not the universal brotherhood of man. It is a brotherhood of Muslims for Muslims only. There is a fraternity, but its benefit is confined to those within that corporation. For those who are outside the corporation, there is nothing but contempt and enmity,” BR Ambedkar wrote in ‘Pakistan or Partition of India’.
Dr.B.R.Ambedkar is the leader of the world of all communities and for social reformer.✍️👌👍✊📚
22:30 Ambedkar truly was a visionary, sad that the same rules applies today with regards to North vs South, A conservative, religiously intolerant & superstitious North imposing it's disregard onto the Progressive, tolerant and rational South.
Ambedkar was a British agent.
22:46 BR Ambedkar "There is a vast difference between the North and South, the North is conservatives, the South is progressive. The North is Superstitious and South is rational. The South is educationally forward, the North is educationally backward. The culture of the South is modern the culture of the North is Medieval." best quote Ambedkar has ever said and sadly still applies so well!
Very good discussion. He was a scholar. His books should be read by every Indian.
22:30 Ambedkar truly was a visionary, sad that the same rules applies today with regards to North vs South, A conservative, religiously intolerant & superstitious North imposing it's disregard onto the Progressive, tolerant and rational South.
Ambedkar was a British agent.
I will
22:46 BR Ambedkar "There is a vast difference between the North and South, the North is conservatives, the South is progressive. The North is Superstitious and South is rational. The South is educationally forward, the North is educationally backward. The culture of the South is modern the culture of the North is Medieval." best quote Ambedkar has ever said and sadly still applies so well!
For understanding Ambedkar we first have to understand the world and time Ambedkar lived in. All of us must reread him.
22:46 BR Ambedkar "There is a vast difference between the North and South, the North is conservatives, the South is progressive. The North is Superstitious and South is rational. The South is educationally forward, the North is educationally backward. The culture of the South is modern the culture of the North is Medieval." best quote Ambedkar has ever said and sadly still applies so well!
Time Ambedkar lived in: Funny nothing changed now, caste has faded a littke bit that too in cities.
@@kolapuri1caste has faded a little? Hv you ever thought about the caste of personal during any situation you you live your life. Can you confidentaly say that you are better financial than your lower class neighbours/friends/colleagues?
That's why i love Dr Ambedkar ❤️
Hinduism is said to divide people and in contrast, Islam is said to bind people together. This is only a half-truth. For Islam divides as inexorably as it binds. Islam is a close corporation and the distinction that it makes between Muslims and non-Muslims is a very real, very positive and very alienating distinction. The brotherhood of Islam is not the universal brotherhood of man. It is a brotherhood of Muslims for Muslims only. There is a fraternity, but its benefit is confined to those within that corporation. For those who are outside the corporation, there is nothing but contempt and enmity,” BR Ambedkar wrote in ‘Pakistan or Partition of India’.
@@salveshuddhodhan come on! Not "Islam" but "Islamic terrorism" is the bar he is setting for himself.
@arwind sawant let me first clear "sar tan se jada" in any case can be correct but you never spoke out against the act of DARK AGE that is LYNCHING of human beings in series and making videos for terrorise a good number of population of this country.
And again welcoming those Lynchers by garlanding them & taking processions in favour of those CRUEL KILLERS. Similarly u people FREE the convicted RAPISTS and MURDERERS from jail and welcome like VIPs. Shame Shame.
@@Ajay140779 "Islamic Terrorism" is the term to defame Islam by West for their vested interest. But you people are suffering from a WORST type of "HINDUPHOBIA" devastating all HIMAN VALUES
@arwind sawant why also you people do competition with pakistan, why not with China and America? Because you know the reality
Why always Hindus always do competition with islam why not with Buddhists or Christians, i think that also you know why 😂
Every action of this Nation is already predicted and written by Sir, Dr B. R. AMBEDKAR 💙💙💙💙💙
JAI BHIM💙💙
I was gonna comment the same.. Jay Bhim.
Jai meem too?!
Yes of course Dr. Ambedkar predicted this nation.... aqurairtely
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22:30 Ambedkar truly was a visionary, sad that the same rules applies today with regards to North vs South, A conservative, religiously intolerant & superstitious North imposing it's disregard onto the Progressive, tolerant and rational South.
Rss was always against ambedkar in his lifetime but now to gain votes of dalits ambedkar is accepted as a national icon.
Narender Modi make C of people. 😅😅
22:30 Ambedkar truly was a visionary, sad that the same rules applies today with regards to North vs South, A conservative, religiously intolerant & superstitious North imposing it's disregard onto the Progressive, tolerant and rational South.
Pehle to ye dekh beta ye hindu rastra h samman mila h agar Pakistan hota to jese afganistan m bodho ki murti tod di vese hi ambedkar ji ki bhi na hoti na to hindu kabhi virodhi the BJP ko gali dena bas agenda chalana h BJP k raj m unka samman Or bada h inhe satta m bhagidari nahi h na isliye kar rahen h
The so-called supporters of Ambedkarji, the Congress, never gave any credence to his words! Atleast the others are valuing his words now.
@vedashri ram
"Atleast the others are valuing his words now."
Who are these "others" to whom you refer ?
If you mean the Shah-Modi-Bisht BJP, you are very sadly mistaken.
Enjoyed this interview
I am a hindu but i accept the reality as ambedkar stated
22:46 BR Ambedkar "There is a vast difference between the North and South, the North is conservatives, the South is progressive. The North is Superstitious and South is rational. The South is educationally forward, the North is educationally backward. The culture of the South is modern the culture of the North is Medieval." best quote Ambedkar has ever said and sadly still applies so well!
Give respect Babasaheb he was Dr,
@@thebobbysisters yes castism exists in South but we can see they are fighting against castism for long but here in North we don't see any revolution against castism..
that had blown my mind to see two astonishing and eminent personalities throughing light on reality ,........
@arwind sawant isn't not asking for the full truth the main qualification to be a BJP bakth?
22:30 Ambedkar truly was a visionary, sad that the same rules applies today with regards to North vs South, A conservative, religiously intolerant & superstitious North imposing it's disregard onto the Progressive, tolerant and rational South.
Read Volumes of DR. B. R. AMBEDKAR once in a life and you will understand this nation / land from birth till it will die......
The highest rational intelectual being 🇮🇳 ever had..
Yesss 😭 I want to read those
22:30 Ambedkar truly was a visionary, sad that the same rules applies today with regards to North vs South, A conservative, religiously intolerant & superstitious North imposing it's disregard onto the Progressive, tolerant and rational South.
@@debodatta7398 very rightly said
@@jk1213ihs True
Hinduism is said to divide people and in contrast, Islam is said to bind people together. This is only a half-truth. For Islam divides as inexorably as it binds. Islam is a close corporation and the distinction that it makes between Muslims and non-Muslims is a very real, very positive and very alienating distinction. The brotherhood of Islam is not the universal brotherhood of man. It is a brotherhood of Muslims for Muslims only. There is a fraternity, but its benefit is confined to those within that corporation. For those who are outside the corporation, there is nothing but contempt and enmity,” BR Ambedkar wrote in ‘Pakistan or Partition of India’.
Honorable Dr. Ambedkar was the most educated and logical leader. Indians are very lucky to have him as a eye opener Rational Leader and explained what is written in manusmriti, otherwise no one read and knew it. 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Shashi Tharoor will be remembered for his wisdom.
Give back your properties to us u uresian pakhandi
Jay bheem jai mulnivasi
Modi-BJPigs-RSS-Hindutwa Fascist ideology has UNDONE ALL the “Reforms” you mentioned, and taken the country to a rapid downhill to DISASTER…mixing HATE with Religion with Politics with Divisions taking the country to regression, agression, lawlessness and unrest! Autocracy and theocracy at best! How BLIND is the majority!
@arwind sawant You are an andhbhakt. You dont know what you dont see.
@arwind sawant
You are right on this point. But there are many deep rooted casteism, class differentiation still exists in Hindu society and all parties including congress used appeasement policies, to continue in power differently in different states. See...
No person of lower caste is ready to lose caste identity or reservation given in the name of caste for jobs or selection procedures in various institutions in india because of the benefits they receive from state.
Still many people believe that caste is the only reason people are not respected or supported. There are number of reasons for identifying people in any society.
Color, jobs, positions, financial status, power, and so many multi factors.
Congress supported all nonsense when they were in power. But now they are in a point of no return, panicked,confused, trying to fix the image through various media finding new definitons from history and trying to come back to power or in main stream politics.
This is not going to be listened by majority since majority speaks all local language other than English.
🤣🤣🤣🤣💪no for his love stories in parliament
9:39; Caste is an instrument of discrimination, caste is the soul of hinduism and so how can a caste-conscious hindu - which every hindu is by default- be a good hindu ….
I admire Gandhi for many of his ideals and thoughts. However I admire and support Ambedkar in all his arguements that he had with Gandhi. That's the intellectual and moral capacity we had in our country in those times. What iconic figures these are compared to so called leaders we have today.
"It is for the majority to realize it is their duty not to discriminate against minorities." B. R. Ambedkar.
I am a part of the majority community, and I know many from my community will start 'what about minority duties' here...such an attitude is just cowardness
Yes,true! And because India’s majority accepted their responsibility discrimination is prohibited by law. Ambedkar deserves credit for bringing the issue to the fore and the majority agrees with him. As it is everywhere in the world, change takes time but change is happening.
@@subhashbhagwat7411 change? it will never happen, as long as hinduism, the core reason, remains in India as a religion. It is emboldened and entitled in present day india more than ever. I live in Nirth America and I have many hindu colleagues who expresses in private conversations, who justifies and believes caste system is right.
Paul Oli your wishing away of hinduism is not going to do it . But you may feel good doing so.
read the book two nation by Ambekar, before talking to non sense
22:46 BR Ambedkar "There is a vast difference between the North and South, the North is conservatives, the South is progressive. The North is Superstitious and South is rational. The South is educationally forward, the North is educationally backward. The culture of the South is modern the culture of the North is Medieval." best quote Ambedkar has ever said and sadly still applies so well!
The only politician, who speak sence with unquestionable wisdom, has presented his case well. Karan was decent enough to listen to him..
Mr Tharoor is a man of great mind and has superb grasp of Indian history
Really thought provoking interview. I for one, immediately developed a great respect for the wisdom of Dr. Ambedkar. This generation of leaders need to sincerely listen to Dr. Ambedkar.
@arwind sawant From what you say, even more respect for Dr. Ambedkar. So I'm right about him.
Who is the fool now????!!!!
@Tarun T Yes, no problem. You get your ₹2!! 😂
22:30 Ambedkar truly was a visionary, sad that the same rules applies today with regards to North vs South, A conservative, religiously intolerant & superstitious North imposing it's disregard onto the Progressive, tolerant and rational South.
AMBEDKARISM IS NOW A BIG SUBJECT...PEOPLE SHOULD READ AMBEDKAR REPEATEDLY
Great discussion,very well interpret ed.
Ambedkar is the most wise one who convinced even Gandhiji to eradicate the social discrimination and injustice prevailed in hindvitwa, which he had given priority than fighting for freedom.His ideology is that,getting freedom is of no use,without eradicating this injustice in the majority hindutwa.... BJP still has to understand this among their cadres.
22:46 BR Ambedkar "There is a vast difference between the North and South, the North is conservatives, the South is progressive. The North is Superstitious and South is rational. The South is educationally forward, the North is educationally backward. The culture of the South is modern the culture of the North is Medieval." best quote Ambedkar has ever said and sadly still applies so well!
No comparison for Dr. Baba Saheb in the past , in the present and in future too. Simple
Great analysis I expect our respected PM participate in this discussion. Congratulations to Mr. Tharoor for writing this book on Mr. Ambedkar.
Baba Saheb Ambedkar stand for all..!
Every Indian should read books on Ambedkar..!
I m looking forward to reading this book along with the Annihilation of Caste by Dr Ambedkar to get a clear glimse of his views nd understanding on different issues.Thanku Wire for this excellent interview ❤️
22:30 Ambedkar truly was a visionary, sad that the same rules applies today with regards to North vs South, A conservative, religiously intolerant & superstitious North imposing it's disregard onto the Progressive, tolerant and rational South.
Pl read riddles in Hinduism.
"...To read Ambedkar is to enter a different world"- Prof. Perry Anderson
Karan what a great interview, with a great mind Sashi. I totally agree with the views expressed. Actually I feel our supreme leader is as much a "bhakt" as he was a "chaiwala". And Hindi, though a beautiful language, is not a national language. In fact in a country so diverse we can't have a national language. Nationalism is a thought that joined us all together and got us independence, we were a diverse country then and proudly a diverse nation today and would be that way.
@arwind sawant so you fill in the blanks and enlighten us
We need somthing to bind us otherwise we hindus will diversed and devided other religion will rule us again
22:30 Ambedkar truly was a visionary, sad that the same rules applies today with regards to North vs South, A conservative, religiously intolerant & superstitious North imposing it's disregard onto the Progressive, tolerant and rational South.
@@debodatta7398 BS. There you are off on your divisive agenda.
North stood up to one of the most brutal invasions and stayed Hindu. I do not think any other indigenous civilization can lay claim to that level of bravery and fierce loyalty to their faith. And I am a south Indian. This 'enlightened' South, they completely fall for the most ridiculous weird missionary tricks and propaganda.
22:46 BR Ambedkar "There is a vast difference between the North and South, the North is conservatives, the South is progressive. The North is Superstitious and South is rational. The South is educationally forward, the North is educationally backward. The culture of the South is modern the culture of the North is Medieval." best quote Ambedkar has ever said and sadly still applies so well!
Dr.Ambedkar stands unique and tall among our founding fathers. The other stalwarts like Gandhi, Nehru, Patel et al came from similar (not the same) ideological and political camps, but Dr.Ambedkar, as mentioned, was an original thinker, undoubtedly, influenced by his social identity. His views, hence, are in stark contrast to the majority be it political, social or historical, the centre piece being his vehement opposition to caste and it's deep roots in our socio-economic life and the plight of the Dalits and those in lower rungs of social ladder.
It is hence appalling that the PM, for obvious political reasons, publicly holding Babasaheb as an influence. Mr. Modi and his party's views are infamously clear - one that's solidly rooted on majoritarianism - one that is plucked from the fascist playbooks and played successfully by autocrats across the world, current example being Mr.Erdogan in Turkey.
Without an iota of doubt one can say that the BJP doesn't sympathize with any of his views out of sincerity but only for political mileage - mobilizing the Dalits as a vote bank who holds Babasaheb in esteem. And this mockery of Indias prodigal son, after that of Sardar Patel, Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose, Swami Vivekanand among others is unsurprising as a mere means to an end - to aid the electoral machine in sustaining and solidifying power.
All one can truly say is NaMo🙏
22:46 BR Ambedkar "There is a vast difference between the North and South, the North is conservatives, the South is progressive. The North is Superstitious and South is rational. The South is educationally forward, the North is educationally backward. The culture of the South is modern the culture of the North is Medieval." best quote Ambedkar has ever said and sadly still applies so well!
There are no founding father's of Bharat
Here for shashi tharoor
Fantastic competing for Congress president even in loss
Much appreciated for standing ur ground shashiji👍👍
22:46 BR Ambedkar "There is a vast difference between the North and South, the North is conservatives, the South is progressive. The North is Superstitious and South is rational. The South is educationally forward, the North is educationally backward. The culture of the South is modern the culture of the North is Medieval." best quote Ambedkar has ever said and sadly still applies so well!
6:47; ‘If you can’t defeat them then appropriate them’ is the ploy of the hindutvawadis; it started with Buddha by instituting him as the incarnation of one of the caste-loving god called Vishnu, followed by Vivekanand who always made scathing remarks against the very concept of caste and abhorred casteism from all platforms, recently they have appropriated Patel who as home minister had banned the RSS calling it the breeding ground of terrorist, and now it’s Ambedkar…….
good analysis
Excellent speech.
I have salute both of them for intelligence and good information to general public aware about Dr.B.R.Ambedkar vision.
They will never discuss Ambedkar's view on Islam, uniform civil code, article 370 and that he wanted a complete population exchange between India and Pakistan.
Even if they discuss it for hundreds of hours, I tell you no one shall ever reach to a hundred percent consensus.....ever!!!!
These are endless debates, yet all political figures "use" them for their own political milage.
Wire has the dubious distinction of selective amnesia
Wow, with no internet. Respected man understood so much about our society and it's issues. His intelligence has given us a sturdy democracy, but our stupidity can destroy it
Excellent interview and candid views on Ambedkar.
@arwind sawant traitors of freedom movement can no longer mislead people with false propaganda.
22:30 Ambedkar truly was a visionary, sad that the same rules applies today with regards to North vs South, A conservative, religiously intolerant & superstitious North imposing it's disregard onto the Progressive, tolerant and rational South.
Dhur, these are all known to people who read
The Brilent Discostoin. Jai Dr.Ambatkar and Jai Bharth 🙏 ✨ ❤ 💖 National peace and love for all family 👪.
great conversations by two best legends for an awesome personality Ambedkar. expecting more interviews. thank u.
The debate/conversation has been thought provoking.... when they took deep dive into the ocean to find out what is hidden inside Hinduism.... the truth narrows down to discrimination of minorities & Dalits( Bahujan Samaj) which Dr. BR Ambedkar fought to eradicate it being in Hindu Society... and who even succeeded in giving Independent India a Sacred book called the INDIAN CONSTITUTION which gave the people of India as to how to run the Nation. He was a great visionary and could forecast the future of India that what he wrote & preached is being seen today and no doubt could be seen in near future as well. Karan Taper your interviews are straight with truth & daring... you are a true journalist. Congratulations and all the best in your endeavours.
I totally agree with Ambedkar on Hindus, Hinduism, Hindutav
@arwind sawant then why has section of tribals and Sikhs become naxalite and terrorists??? Logic is very simple, if you alienate a particular section of society then you will have pay a price for it. Unfortunately Hindutva bigots like you will never understand Ambedkar or Bhagat Singh.
What an amazing conversation. Thank you Karen and Shashi. I will read the book!
@arwind sawant 🤣🤣...pehle khud ko dekho aur phir dusron ko...hahahah
@Tarun T FYI - Here the topics are Hindu. Dalit, PM and Ambedkar...now repost your bigotry...
@Tarun T 🤣🤣koi faida nahin....🤣🤣
@Tarun T 🤣🤣 you are certainly one poorly educated and bigoted nutjob ... hahahaha
Great insight. Continue such progressive talks. Thapar Saab.
@arwind sawant all that talk of introspect but you yourself won’t be allowed to marry outside caste
@@sushrutsharma4966 who said to you? Your liberal sharma uncle?
Jai Ambedkar Jai Bharat
It’s a slap for modi and the bjp as well, well done the wire
That “slap” comes out of ignorance! Let us not go overboard praising the “ wisdom” of Tharoor! He has his blinds and limitations, his british accent notwithstanding!
@@subhashbhagwat7411 right point he is a agenda wadi now public are wise who know what is right what is wrong
It's surprising how dr. Ambedkars statements said in 1930s,40s are still valid to this date and are turning out to be true.. Visionary, intelluctual,rational, progressive mind.
22:46 BR Ambedkar "There is a vast difference between the North and South, the North is conservatives, the South is progressive. The North is Superstitious and South is rational. The South is educationally forward, the North is educationally backward. The culture of the South is modern the culture of the North is Medieval." best quote Ambedkar has ever said and sadly still applies so well!
Kudos to you Karan, you deserve the best in journalism. People like you and Ravish from NDTV are playing vital role to ensure Journalism is alive and trying to save democracy
Sir, I am a Madiga by caste, Christian by religion, I am a true Congressman, from 1982 sticking posters Congress is my mother , was a student leader, I found Shashi Tharoor is an amazing personality, he should have been the President of Congress Party, I believe he would have brought a change.
You say you are a christian but I am pretty sure your caste certificate says your religion is ‘Hindu’. I have many Madiga classmates who do the same for reservations. Hypocrites.
I agree with you Samuel. But I found it amusing that Shashi Tharoor was all praise for Ambedkar's condemnation of Bhakts in politics but forgetting the fact that he, Shashi Tharoor himself is a member of Congress party which comprise of so many blind Bhakts of Gandhi family so much so that they I clyding Shashi Tharoor is ready to accept Rahul Gandhi as his leader even though we all know that Rahul has hardly any political experience or qualities to be a leader as compared to Shashi Tharoor or many other non Gandhi leaders in Congress. So we have the highest form of political bhakti still being practiced in Congress by all congressmen including Shashi tharoor himself.
@@peepingtom4626 Certificate says i am Indian Christian
@@peepingtom4626 in J&K govt allowed Christians in reservation.... So your claim is baseless
@@kingnole4237 Christians allowed in obc reservation not in sc st.
Interviews like these should be telecasted on national television. Again and again.
@arwind sawant fools like you...haha
@arwind sawant I THINK U GOT U R 2₹
Thank you Karan. Your brilliant quotes and questions play a very important role for the interviewee -the great Dr Shashi Tharoor-to bring the truth about such important issues that the people have a right to know and expose the hypocrites before the society. 🙏🙏🙏Too good an interview….Looking forward to more such exposures 👍
22:46 BR Ambedkar "There is a vast difference between the North and South, the North is conservatives, the South is progressive. The North is Superstitious and South is rational. The South is educationally forward, the North is educationally backward. The culture of the South is modern the culture of the North is Medieval." best quote Ambedkar has ever said and sadly still applies so well!
Jai bhim. The topic is very well chosen, but the discussion was very lacklustre with both of them agreeing at the end of every sentence. Instead of bashing the obvious hypocrisy, they should have pushed Tharoor to elaborate on the point where he mentioned that Ambedkar's thoughts on Hinduism were extreme or non temperate and possibly bring in how Congress has itself undermined Ambedkar's ideals so we could see Tharoor's defense
A very interesting discussion between two great intellectuals who understand the country and its problems. India was fortunate to have a person of Ambedkar's intellect and calibre to be at hand when the country was required to draft a constitution. Besides being a legal luminary and intellectual par excellence, he knew the Indian society and its strength and weaknesses in and out by his personal experience. Our leaders must study Ambedkar with an open mind and should formulate policies where every one would feel comfortable. Ours is still an evolving society and giving undue accent to caste, community, language etc. can only retard our social progress. Ultimately our real aim should be to create a modern society where caste and would obviously take the back stage.
Dr. B. R. Ambedkar is the leader of the world of all communities and for social reformer .Very good discussion .His books should be read by every Indian.
Great Interview. Thank you.
This is what Arundhati Roy said almost a decade ago in her book the doctor and the saint.
Good fun listening to the interview. Needless to say , we Indians can always outdo ourselves when it comes to hypocrisy.
Great interview for knowledge.
@arwind sawant ok
Bias debate
Another Awesome Interview from the Senior Journalist
On the language issue Ambedkar was very right as well, English although a foreign language to the land what is today India and the regions nearby, also the language of the colonizers, has proven to be great advantage to Indians when competing internationally, also nationally it has been the qreat equalizer among states and their own languages...
It should be left out to the states to decide which languages they want to develop and work on...and center should have no business deciding all this, Hindi as any other Indian language is an equal, it cannot get more or less importance than other languages...
Common language is more powerful than nationalism, or may be complementary to each other to sustain. Great countries like China, usa could sustain in time and create trust and wealth by accepting a common language. India trying imposing a regional language on entire country wound invite grief and fission in the soul nationally of Indians.
22:30 Ambedkar truly was a visionary, sad that the same rules applies today with regards to North vs South, A conservative, religiously intolerant & superstitious North imposing it's disregard onto the Progressive, tolerant and rational South.
There is an old saying Hindi "Samay aane par gadhey ko bhi baap banana padta hai" (To bring situations in your favor you have to make/call a Donkey your father).
That is what BJP is doing by making Ambedkar as their Icon, just to get more votes from SC/ST category.
Are you calling dr. Ambedkar, a gadha?
You got it so right!!!!!
You are the bastard of many donkeys.
It is great interview and thought provoking discussion. What is happening now was predicted by Dr.B R Ambedkar 70 years before. There is no match to thinking in the world.
One think I observed to differ from this interview is that though Ambedkar did not like Hinduism, but he neither supported any other religion like Islam or Christianity where plain faith is taught without any rational thinking, that is also one of the reasons why he ultimately converted to Buddhuism where there is no plain faith and he called Buddhuism as a way of life, not as religion.
Great Karan Thapar, lots of respect watching you after a long time. Proud of sasi tharoor sir too. Wish to see him as the chief minister of state ,and also prime minister of this nation. Yes very correctly said.
We the people of India or we the hindus ?
@arwind sawant HINDU BOLD SOCIETY OR COWARD SOCIETY ATTACTING THE MINORITY ON FLIMSY ISSUES I THINH SAWANT YOU NEED YOUR BRAIN BY A NEURO SURGEON SHAH AND YOGI BIGGEST CULPRITS
@arwind sawant you can definitely dream.
Geetha Nair, I totally agree with you that Shashi Tharoor deserves to be Prime Minister of India. But sadly as long as he is in Congress party, it will not become a reality because all the Bhakts in Congress wants to see Rahul baba as PM, which of course is the biggest joke.
Every party has good and bad.
Rahul is a good human being, but not seem to be matured. But won't be doing or exploiting politics for his survival. That's his greatness.
What a fantastic way Tapar sir. Wonderful interview. Salute
Most awaited interview. This book is gem. ✨
Hinduism is said to divide people and in contrast, Islam is said to bind people together. This is only a half-truth. For Islam divides as inexorably as it binds. Islam is a close corporation and the distinction that it makes between Muslims and non-Muslims is a very real, very positive and very alienating distinction. The brotherhood of Islam is not the universal brotherhood of man. It is a brotherhood of Muslims for Muslims only. There is a fraternity, but its benefit is confined to those within that corporation. For those who are outside the corporation, there is nothing but contempt and enmity,” BR Ambedkar wrote in ‘Pakistan or Partition of India’.
@arwind sawant I'm aware with the statement of Ambedkar regarding muslims. He was mellifluous orator but that time was nadir phase. Being an archetypal person doesn't mean you can't be wrong.
@@_Piyushtiwarii He is a BJP IT cell troll. He is commenting very hard unsuccessfully on every comment 😂😂😂
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That's why I love ❤️ Dr Ambedkar...
I loved his conversation
Great Interview. Someone needs to translate this interview in Hindi for the Northern Zone.
There is some essence in listening to these two talk.
Not just some .. takes on the bare facts of being seriously conscious humans ..
Some political parties are"sometimes" hypocrite but BJP is always hypocrite.
22:30 Ambedkar truly was a visionary, sad that the same rules applies today with regards to North vs South, A conservative, religiously intolerant & superstitious North imposing it's disregard onto the Progressive, tolerant and rational South.
You are the Dr Rubenstein of India.🙏🙏🙏🥰🥰🥰👏👏👏
He might not have become Congress president, but should definitely be their PM candidate in 2024
" peacefuls loyalty is towards their religion not towards their country " - B.R Ambedkar
He was saying that about the leadership of Muslim League in the 1940 book . He later even mocked that the League which says it represents all Muslims couldn’t get a majority even within their own community.
Plz quote what he said in "annihilation of caste" too😂
Very good insight and a good conversation
Hinduism is said to divide people and in contrast, Islam is said to bind people together. This is only a half-truth. For Islam divides as inexorably as it binds. Islam is a close corporation and the distinction that it makes between Muslims and non-Muslims is a very real, very positive and very alienating distinction. The brotherhood of Islam is not the universal brotherhood of man. It is a brotherhood of Muslims for Muslims only. There is a fraternity, but its benefit is confined to those within that corporation. For those who are outside the corporation, there is nothing but contempt and enmity,” BR Ambedkar wrote in ‘Pakistan or Partition of India’.
If needed this interview should long because he should be asked questions like:
1. How Congress is far away from Dr. Amedkar's ideas?
2. Is Ambedkar contradicts Shshi Tharoor's ideas in the book - Why I Am Hindu?
3. Clarifications on questions he raised on Dr. Ambedkar about Gandhi and others?
These were very essential questions that Thapar should have asked Mr Tharoor, it would have been really interesting to see his responses and justifications.
DR Ambedkar 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Rhetoric and reality are different and one has nothing to do with other.It is not what you say it is what you do.The honorary guest and the real issues and questions raised by host both speak for itself. Salute to both scholars.
Great interview sir....This type of interview should be telecated
again and again.
Hinduism is said to divide people and in contrast, Islam is said to bind people together. This is only a half-truth. For Islam divides as inexorably as it binds. Islam is a close corporation and the distinction that it makes between Muslims and non-Muslims is a very real, very positive and very alienating distinction. The brotherhood of Islam is not the universal brotherhood of man. It is a brotherhood of Muslims for Muslims only. There is a fraternity, but its benefit is confined to those within that corporation. For those who are outside the corporation, there is nothing but contempt and enmity,” BR Ambedkar wrote in ‘Pakistan or Partition of India’.
Save it or download it for keeps and reference when necessary !
Thank you Karan . Thank you for your wonderful work. For keeping the values of the India some of us remember alive . Bless your soul.
In modern era India needs a hero like Dr Br Ambedkar...
Very informative. An eye-opener.
We all know about BJP-RSS's policies but even Tharoor is proud to be a Hindu and has written about it. Hence if BJP-RSS has double standards on Ambedkar, doesn't Tharoor has on being a hindu?
You are saying you are ok with BJP-RSS double standards as long as Tharoor has double standards 🤣🤣.... Have your own brain bro.... What Dr. Ambedkar said - is still relevant today... Dalits being tortured at one part or other part of the country- is still happening...... I believe he was right in his writings. Now ruling dispensation is working day in and day out to put all country's wealth in the hands of Brahmins businessmen and that too from their own State Gujrat... Same Gujrat which allowed Mughals to come into India.... same Gujrat who never have any martyred soldier in the history of independent India... looters mostly are actually from this state only....
@@kareemkhan-hv1yp Not at all.. I despise BJP-RSS politics and their multiple standards (not just double standards). You got me totally wrong on Ambedkar.. I am an hardcore Ambedkarite. All I was saying that Tharoor preaching on Ambedkar is totally superficial and understated.
This point only relevant if Tharoor brings his religion into politics and governance the way bjp does. As long as that’s not the case he’s merely calling out the bjp hypocrisy.
@@tantravision You should also read what Ambedkar said about Islam and how he wanted a complete population exchange.
I like Dr ambedkar sir 👍🇮🇳
Shashi Tharoor sir 👍 thanks You so much
Two good English speaking individual..nice to see this interview
Regular media channels shy to report and discuss the news of thousands of people taking 22 oaths of Ambedkar.
Rajinder Gautam was just present on one such occasion and he was forced to resign.
this is politics to create fear in the mind of Dalits. He himself has resigned no one can make dalits fool this a political stunt
@arwind sawant : Mr Sawant where is your place in the caste structure of hinduism; below-at par-or above the bammans 😂😂😂Hope you know why Mrs Khole from pune filed the FIR against the domestic help belonging to your caste …🤣
Thanks Thapar sir to bring the fact and truth, my honor to listen your thought,
Tharoor is a progressive writer.....👍🌸🌸🌸
I think it takes few more generations for the bhakts to read what Dr Ambedkar stood for forget about understanding him, given the level of intelligence they possess and which also need good amount of free thinking mindset😂
This was absolutely riveting.
I still wish Shashi had won Congress Prez. election
What a knowledgeable man he is
Kharge is nobody in front him
🤣🤣🤣 i like his love stories in parliament
IS THAT THE SUBJECT NOW ?
Please support Karan Thapar for his independent journalism....He is one of the few journalists in the country who speak with boldness and courage
What an elite dialogues on an epic personality and and his original ideas.
Karan prepared so well to extract the best for his viewers. Good to see him not interrupting the guest and put his own words in their mouth. Altogether an excellent example of good journalism.
very nice reporting and analysis sir thanks 🙏🙏
Great Conversation ❤
@arwind sawant
That’s True Our Hindu society always support Reforms bt don’t forget the lineage of Those were against such reforms
It’s was So called religious groups which have direct or indirect affiliations with so called bjp party !
@arwind sawant
Shameless ?
I have not Screwed your Loved one
❤️du just Read about Controversy around the Hindu Code Bill which forced Dr Ambedkar to resign
You will find your Answer
Because even BJP and RSS cant say and go against the Mr Ambedkar because of his genius and the millions of followers through out the world.
Really Dr BR Ambedkar is great Leader ever...
Very good discussion.. 👌👌👌🙏🙏
Two intelligent person talking about great genius ❤
Mr Karan Thapar - You are brilliant...
No discussion on poona packt and how Congress kept on ditching him throughout his life. Dr. Ambedkar was lot more than what has been discussed in short discussion. His idea to address Hindus as pigmies and dwarf has not gone well with two Hindus who are discussing him. It will be only well understood by the people who are actually suffered due to such identification of Hindus.
Jai bhim
Jai samvidhan
Jai Bharat 🙏
love how Karan says " and even the occasional Nobel Laureate" . Come to think of it nobody comes close to his portfolio of discussions in Indian Media.
Realy a fantastic interview.
Love to watch a Mr Shashi Throor interview any day.
Would like to see this program goes on and on...
When will this book become available in the US? It appears that right now it is for sale only in India,
Wow! Are you watching it from America?