for me its clear it is city. As a rival fan there is no desputing kevin de bruyne, david silva, yaya toure, fernandinho, gundogan, rodri, bernardo silva,
Fun fact, KDB's 5 aside team (from couple of years ago): KDB, Neymar, Messi, Bernardo and Kanté. Obv Ney&Messi are irrelevant for the conversation. However found it interesting (but not that surprising) that the one other City player he picked was Bernardo. As KDB explained himself: Incredible in tight spaces, technically gifted and also defensively extremely strong/tenacious. Complete player who's pretty good at everything. ....he also said that Bernardo is a massive wind up which would be a plus LOL. That said...Bernardo isn't exactly a midfielder either. Has spent maybe 1 season in total out of 6 seasons as an attacking midfielder. 2 as defensive midfielder next to Rodri and 3 on the right wing. As Pep always says: "Bernardo's position is 'football player'. He understands the game." And as some of City's players jokingly say: "Bernardo is the teacher's pet." As well as: "He's our attacking defender. Doesn't really attack when he plays winger. Doesn't really defend when he's playing DM...no one really knows what he even does to be honest." - Mahrez. edit: at monaco he was also playing more of a winger position. was the the far right player in a 4-4-2
I never thought about that point about Wenger being ahead of his era with the Tekky small type of midfielder profile he had circa 2010 give or take. He was a visionary and influential for sure. Of course Pep and City are the standard now and rightfully so.
With United, we’ve never been by stacked in the midfield collection. It’s basically only Scholes/Keane/Carrick. United have never had a successful continental midfielders. Veron flopped, Pogba flopped, Kleberson flopped.
Fuad wins with that 5. There’s a shout for Scholes in there IMO. Modric prime at Spurs, short stint I get that. Giggs, Stevie G, not tech enough for fives. Cazorla was madness. Essien?? Regardless, great debate and I pray the glory days of midfield skill and dominance return to football.
Man City and it’s not close. Chelsea/Arsenal/United all have a great case for second, but City is clear by a mile. Player for player, concurrent midfield three, GOAT midfielder in Prem (KDB). When Fernandinho, Silva or Toure, and Bernardo/Gundogan aren’t making your team’s all time midfield three, you’ve clearly had the best midfielders ever.
Top 5 vs Top 5 Lampard vs KDB for me Frank edges it Kante vs Yaya Yaya edges it Makelele vs Fernandinho Makelele comfortably Fabregas vs D Silva I can’t split them Mata vs Gundo imma go Gundo for longevity but Mata wins on peak.
I’m sorry but Lampard is not ahead of KDB. And really it’s not close. He was asked to be a goalscorer for those Chelsea teams which explains his incredible goal tally. Skill for skill he doesn’t even touch KDB. Passing, defending, ball carrying, positioning. It’s KDB all day. And if you think Juan fucking Mata was at ANY point better than Gundo you need your brain checked. Rodri right now is better than Makelele ever was. You clowns think because someone played 20 years ago that they’re somehow better. Rodri is the best DM in the world and has been for quite some time.
@@LeominsterFC you’re definitely a teenager. Lampard wasn’t just a goal scorer 😂😂 he was the complete 8. His defensive ability was far superior to KDB. That’s like when you kids say Ronaldo was just a goal scorer cause you never saw him when he was younger. Makelele is the best DM the sport has seen he was so good the position got named after him. Rodri isn’t even involved yet he’s been here less than 4 years & he struggled in his first season. Mata in 2012/13 was one of the best 10s the league has ever seen.
@Edraxx R Fabregas became elite at Arsenal. Spent the majority of his career with usmbHe was at the end of his career when he joined Chelsea. Yes he won the title with you but he became HIM at Arsenal and was at his prime at Arsenal.
Chelsea floor me bc there core midfielder could work under different systems and longevity. Just the name of the midfielder that Chelsea have is clear of city head to head except kdb. Lampard, ballack, essien, Kante makalele,cese farebgas, matic and mikel Obi. All as a collective is better than City’s midfielder
for me its clear it is city. As a rival fan there is no desputing kevin de bruyne, david silva, yaya toure, fernandinho, gundogan, rodri, bernardo silva,
only united comes close with scholes, keane
scholes keane carrick best beckham giggsy casemiro clearly number 1
@@flameeed8464 bias ash😂😂 casemiro has done nothing in the prem
@@flameeed8464 as a united fan it is disrespectful to even mention casmeiros name wit those premier league legends
@@flameeed8464 as a united fan it is disrespectful to even mention casmeiros name wit those premier league legends
19/20 kdb was different level
His best season in a city shirt.. You know ball ! That goal against Newcastle! And the half space crosses to the back post wooaahh
Fun fact, KDB's 5 aside team (from couple of years ago):
KDB, Neymar, Messi, Bernardo and Kanté.
Obv Ney&Messi are irrelevant for the conversation. However found it interesting (but not that surprising) that the one other City player he picked was Bernardo. As KDB explained himself: Incredible in tight spaces, technically gifted and also defensively extremely strong/tenacious. Complete player who's pretty good at everything.
....he also said that Bernardo is a massive wind up which would be a plus LOL.
That said...Bernardo isn't exactly a midfielder either. Has spent maybe 1 season in total out of 6 seasons as an attacking midfielder. 2 as defensive midfielder next to Rodri and 3 on the right wing. As Pep always says: "Bernardo's position is 'football player'. He understands the game."
And as some of City's players jokingly say: "Bernardo is the teacher's pet."
As well as: "He's our attacking defender. Doesn't really attack when he plays winger. Doesn't really defend when he's playing DM...no one really knows what he even does to be honest." - Mahrez.
edit: at monaco he was also playing more of a winger position. was the the far right player in a 4-4-2
Nemanja Matic underrated Chelsea midfielder
HIT THE LIKES. JOIN THE DEBATE
City most talented/technical, beautiful,
Chelsea were most physical monsters/dominance: Makelele, Essien, Ballack, Kante, Ramires, physical beasts
Do PEPs all time team
Man city easily
u forgetting spurs? dele alli, eriksen, skipp, højbjerg? city is not even close
@@fj_stx791 you comparing dele alli and eriksen to yaya toure, kdb, david silva?
@@fj_stx791😂😂
@@shahwahhh1688 are you crazy? dele and eriksen are miles clear
@@shahwahhh1688 especially skipp, after today, what a performance
It’s not even close. City by a mile. Rodri, Fernandinho, Yaya Toure, Gundogan, Silva, Bernardo, De Bruyne. That’s elite.
Makelele, Ballack, Essien, Kante, Lampard, Fabregas, Jorginho, Matic, Mata. Come onnnn
@@umcon ballack wasn’t great for chelsea, jorginho was and has always been just GOOD NOT ELITE
Forgettting Kante for that long is crazy lmaoo Chelsea got it in my opinion
It’s comfortably city
j5 and kova>kante
Great show
Elite vid 👏🏽
Sick ep! Top 6 five aside draft!
I never thought about that point about Wenger being ahead of his era with the Tekky small type of midfielder profile he had circa 2010 give or take. He was a visionary and influential for sure. Of course Pep and City are the standard now and rightfully so.
Great knowledge getting served
Love this content
Do best wingers combo like robben ribery as a combination
I just know Fabregas was always in the winning team on Rondos. That Barca training would make a different level in a 5-a-side
How u forgetting peak kante
I'm a Chelsea fan and even I would say that collection of City midfielders in unrivalled.
That fuad 5 a side I ain't tryna see mourinho ball in 5-a-side 😂
Chelsea def.. Lampard, Kante, Essien, Ballack, Deschamps, Makelele, Kovacic, Fabregas, Gulit, Deco, Matic..
man said kovacic
@@_trvekvlt and ballack twice
@@kahuemberson4858 lol kids now a days..
In this era, I’ve always wished Liverpool could have a midfield like City’s.
Winger draft or you can do an all Forwards draft (winger/insider fwd/strikers etc)
With United, we’ve never been by stacked in the midfield collection. It’s basically only Scholes/Keane/Carrick. United have never had a successful continental midfielders. Veron flopped, Pogba flopped, Kleberson flopped.
My 5 a side team defo winning that match 🤣
TWO DMS!??
Fuad wins with that 5. There’s a shout for Scholes in there IMO. Modric prime at Spurs, short stint I get that. Giggs, Stevie G, not tech enough for fives. Cazorla was madness. Essien??
Regardless, great debate and I pray the glory days of midfield skill and dominance return to football.
05 chelsea team was arguably the best prem team with 08 United up there in status prime José and ferguesons ronaldo was different nearly 2 decades ago
City domestic treble was 05 chelsea
wash*
up coming episodes. who would have the best fifa street team in prem history
Chelsea
Best duo Fuad so funny 😂😂
Clearly Chelsea
Manchester City midfielder
Bring on the reps of all big six clubs and have them do their five a sides and decide on the best one
What about united
Scholes,Keane,Beckham,Giggs,Fernandes,Pogba
Shoutout for mentioning arsenal. Our defence ruined us in the late 00s and early 10s
Quality episode for me fuad's team is just better than cam's. More control at the base then his front 3 dunks on cams
Great show🫳🏾
Don't think anyone can beat a kante, yaya combo.
Man City and it’s not close. Chelsea/Arsenal/United all have a great case for second, but City is clear by a mile. Player for player, concurrent midfield three, GOAT midfielder in Prem (KDB). When Fernandinho, Silva or Toure, and Bernardo/Gundogan aren’t making your team’s all time midfield three, you’ve clearly had the best midfielders ever.
In just Pl era. Its city by miles. Chelsea have never dominated like city, its city
Yea whatever u say man.
Top 5 vs Top 5
Lampard vs KDB for me Frank edges it
Kante vs Yaya Yaya edges it
Makelele vs Fernandinho Makelele comfortably
Fabregas vs D Silva I can’t split them
Mata vs Gundo imma go Gundo for longevity but Mata wins on peak.
I’m sorry but Lampard is not ahead of KDB. And really it’s not close. He was asked to be a goalscorer for those Chelsea teams which explains his incredible goal tally. Skill for skill he doesn’t even touch KDB. Passing, defending, ball carrying, positioning. It’s KDB all day. And if you think Juan fucking Mata was at ANY point better than Gundo you need your brain checked. Rodri right now is better than Makelele ever was. You clowns think because someone played 20 years ago that they’re somehow better. Rodri is the best DM in the world and has been for quite some time.
@@LeominsterFC i agree with you, but also kante at his peak was probably better than rodri currently right
@@LeominsterFC you’re definitely a teenager.
Lampard wasn’t just a goal scorer 😂😂 he was the complete 8. His defensive ability was far superior to KDB. That’s like when you kids say Ronaldo was just a goal scorer cause you never saw him when he was younger.
Makelele is the best DM the sport has seen he was so good the position got named after him.
Rodri isn’t even involved yet he’s been here less than 4 years & he struggled in his first season.
Mata in 2012/13 was one of the best 10s the league has ever seen.
You cannot put Cesc under the Chelsea bracket.
@Edraxx R Fabregas became elite at Arsenal. Spent the majority of his career with usmbHe was at the end of his career when he joined Chelsea. Yes he won the title with you but he became HIM at Arsenal and was at his prime at Arsenal.
City by a mile.
For an Arsenal 5 aside you have to have Jack wilshere
Doing what?😂
Chelsea floor me bc there core midfielder could work under different systems and longevity. Just the name of the midfielder that Chelsea have is clear of city head to head except kdb. Lampard, ballack, essien, Kante makalele,cese farebgas, matic and mikel Obi. All as a collective is better than City’s midfielder
You forgot Kante
Arsenal was synonymous with midfielders for like a decade
Manchester City by a mile elite midfielders over the years
City's midifield is clear man
Arsenal have the best collection of midfielders, this is sooo disrespectful: Viera, Petit, Gilberto Silva, Fabregas, Ozil, Cazorla.
As a united fan it’s clearly city man
i’m sorry, David Silva clears juan mata.
Cams team edges this one, last minute dagger from kdb😂
Keane and Scholes it's simple
😂😂😂😂kdb has more talent than both of them combine
@@federalgaming267 you keep believing that.
Mancity easily ✅
Ballack disrespect
fuad's team is miles better
This just prove Ferguson is the goat
Mancity easily
j5 and kova>kante
united thats not even a question
United? 😂😂😂😂 these nostalgia merchants man United ain’t even second city then Chelsea
@@leavenowitness9239give me a better 5 than keane scholes giggs best and beckham
@@flameeed8464 City's are easily better than the ones you mentioned. They may have won more but they aren't better players besides Keane and Scholes
@@flameeed8464 Kdb, yaya toure, david silva, fernandinho clears
@@flameeed8464 man said best 😂 we’re talking midfielders
Arsenal are as good as Man City when it comes to prem midfielders over the last 30 yrs
Man United