I didn't even realise at 0:05 you said 'in a second'. Then at 4:50 when you have come full Circle, it's revealed that you're actually talking to yourself! Incredible
Yet another winner here 10/10 - Much better than a lot of stuff shown on TV. Your work on the London Underground needs making into a full length documentary film
Don't they tell you though, for example, "Circle Line train to Edgware Road via Baker Street and King's Cross St. Pancras"? The 'vias' being a rather unambiguous way to tell which way a train is going.
Brilliant call back to the beginning. I played that back a few times to try and work out what was going on before giving up. Made the payoff at the end even better.
Euston Square moved the gateline to include the lift now, but the barriers are often kept open. I love this station, friendly staff, nice, quieter than most.
I like the groundhog day joke, although the first time you said "In a second, it's time to do the secrets of the circle line", whilst the second time you said "in a second, which means it's time to do secrets of the circle line".
As for the question in the i, I have a different solution: - Circle Line every 5' between Hammersmith and Gloucester Road, and then alternately to Edware Road (like today) or Kensington (Olympia) - Hammersmith&City Line is shut down - District line trains in relation Wimbledon - Edgware Road are extended to Barking, along today's H&C Advantages: - passengers get a direct service from around High Street Ken to around King's Cross St. Pancras, similar to the old Circle line - Kensington (Olympia) would get a proper integration into the Underground network, instead of today's limited shuttle service What do you think?
Disadvantages: - It would look rather confusing on the Tube map: you would have both Circle and District lines seemingly going around zone 1 in a circle. Sure, the District line will “break the loop” at Aldgate East and Earl’s Court, while the Circle line won’t, but that doesn’t mean it won’t confuse a lot of people. Remember, many tourists (and even some Londoners!) still get caught out by the two branches of the Northern line - there’s no way these people would find this new sub-surface layout simple. (That is, of course, unless you rebrand and rename that new District line route via Farringdon - Wimbledon & City line perhaps?...) - Your proposal would give a total of 30 trains per hour between Baker Street and Liverpool Street (12 Circle + 12 Metropolitan + 6 Wimbledon & City), as well as 30 trains per hour between Tower Hill and Gloucester Road (12 Circle + 18 District); that’s up from 24 on both sections today. And that’s just during the off-peak - at rush hour that number may be even higher! That kind of frequency sounds great in theory but it’s not practical in reality. No other London Underground line currently runs 30tph in the off-peak, and only some lines just about manage that in the peak. Deep-tube lines like the Central or Victoria line can get away with having such high frequencies because they are entirely self-contained and only have grade-separated junctions. The sub-surface lines, meanwhile, have flat junctions at Baker Street, Gloucester Road, and either side of Aldgate; these junctions would seriously struggle to handle 30tph even at peak times - never mind throughout the day! So in conclusion, this service pattern would be extremely unreliable. - In a similar vein, there would be 30tph running through Earl’s Court station. At least the junctions either side of that station are grade-separated - but the problem here is the track layout. If you study it very carefully, you will notice that going eastbound, none of the 30 trains every hour would be able to arrive/depart Earl’s Court station simultaneously! So essentially you’re again trying to squeeze 30tph onto one bit of track, which drastically reduces reliability. (Weirdly, it wouldn’t be a problem going westbound.) - The single-track section on the Olympia branch is actually pretty long, so if you try to squeeze 6tph (or 1 train every 10 minutes) onto that track, then these trains would have to have ridiculously short turnaround times at Olympia (which causes yet another reliability problem). Sorry if I burst your bubble a little - on paper your plan sounds like a good idea - but unfortunately there are a few technical problems with it 😢.
love these vids....used to travel the tube all weekend as a kid on a "red rover". unlimited travel for half a crown in old money, mind you there was'nt a jubilee or victoria line in them days, but i was totally facinated.. i feel like an anorak
Aha! I saw that the map you used on ths video still has the Epping-Ongar section of the Central Line shown, the Aldwych branch of the Piccadilly line and the Metropolitan Line which ran up to Brill, Wood Siding and Verney Junction.
You can get the circle line from one platform at Paddington, the ones next to the GWR, stay on it all the way round London and then get off at the sub surface platforms later
Edgware is quite possibly my favourite tune station. I just love all the plants and the tiles and how half the station platform is underground and the other half is open to the sky
All the plants? Are you sure that’s not the other Edgware Road station (the one on the Bakerloo line)? Because that station has a “vertical garden” on one of the walls!
That was really bugging me that 'in a second' bit, firstly cos i thought it was quite rude that someone would interrupt but secondly that youd left it in... Glad you cleared it up cos i was getting kinda p'd off lol!!!
Not only did South Ken have Metropolitan lines running through where there is now a platform with no rails, but in the 50s the District ran “fast’ trains running there nonstop from Earls Court to Sloane Square. I can’t remember if they had fast trains the other way though. Anybody know?
I checked a few of them: The more obvious ones are there (like the westbourne at Sloane Square or the 4 platforms at High Street Kensington) are the, but the details (like the missing second s at one sign of St. Jamses's Park) are not there.
I went to St James’ Park the other day- the gates had a mind of their own! I saw loads of people who they just opened for, they were open until someone put their ticket in and it closed, it was CRAZY!
I spent almost the whole video wondering who had interrupted you at the beginning and why you'd left it in. And then the ending answered everything - completing the circle. Very clever! Certainly more clever than I, seeing as I'm the 12533411589844th person to mention this...
such a cool channel...aldgate east - u can see the trains queuing up...also, on the dot matrix board, the hammersmith and city was due in 6 minutes, then suddenly disappeared lol...so got on the train to kc and over the pa, heard that "the dot matrix isn't working properly!...the victoria line was busy (busy station - one escalator!)...oxford circus (victoria line), closed due to overcrowding ...hmm, well one escalator working lol...tottenham court road (where the crossrail is hidden among the signs)...hoburn or piccalilly...lol (where ur videos meet the tourist!)..life on the northern line is fave, keep up the good work!
Can you do a video of why the circle line is always late, has Engineering works, cancelled trains, trains running on average every 11mins. I honestly hated the central line the most untill I started using the circle line. Fyi - Westminster Station trains have a 4 ft height difference when parked next to one another
I stumbled across you channel a little while ago and I have been loving it so far. Being on the other side of the Atlantic, your videos are currently my only way to explore London and the Underground the way I would like to, looking for the little details that have written the story of the city. I've learned a lot about the fascinating tube system. Looking forward to the next episode! Your enthusiasm is infectous and, if I may add, you're quite handsome too hahaha!
I noticed that on the tube map, the part from Hammersmith to Aldgate/Liverpool Street (top half) is a different shade to the bottom half (Aldgate/Liverpool Street to Edgware Road)
Geoff, I will tell you a secret that even YOU don't know about. My uncle Jim used to service the chocolate machines on the underground in the recent past. Have you ever put money in to one of them and got nothing out? Well they used to be serviced by VI, (Vending Industries) and those chocolate machines which didn't function were known as "money boxes". They were used purposely because they didn't work and they used to be emptied of money straight into the pockets of VI operatives! Every tube station used to have a certain number of 'money boxes'. I, myself had fallen foul in the past of these monsters! So now you know! 😂
Installing the lift Westbound at Euston Sq seems silly to me. If you installed it Eastbound then the people who need step free access, but need to go Westbound instead, can just take a quick one stop to King’s X where you can just cross the platform (as the tracks aren’t in the middle there unlike most subsurface stations) without any steps to go back westbound. With this westbound setup people who need to go east need to travel west all the way to Royal Oak to cross the platform step-free to go back east again.
Only London could have such a thing that actually don't exist while other cities across the UK are screaming out for such a thing but never get the funding.
+marcoE424 because they planned to extend the lines further north - by the Metropolitan District Railway company. the other lines that were already there had been built by the Metropolitan Railway company (similar name, confusing!)
At Moorgate, Circle Line level, there is a one station sign that is not in the standard London Underground font. Yes, it's geeky of me, but does anyone know how this came to be? It was there in August 2017.
***** Length does not seem to impact the view counts on my channel. Long videos, in fact, sometimes get more views, like 15 minutes. There is just no good logic to it in my experience. Day of the week posted, on a holiday, on a Thursday?
Hi Geoff, loved the series, perfect for an ex commuter like me, 20 odd years was enough though. Just a quick question though,before the Edgware start/ finish, where did the trains start and finish ?
I watched every video on this channel, but I only realise now that you're always trying to match your shirt to the color of the line. That's great! Keep up the good work on this series
Hi Geoff, Love your videos, but please can you go to Notting Hill Gate? When you did the Circle Line you hopped from High St Ken to Paddington and I was longing to see NHG.
is there a labyrinth at ALL tube stations? I live next to London and Me and my BF are planning to do a day looking at all the secrets of the tube that we find interesting enough to warrant a trip there haha, I would like to see how many labyrinths we can find!
You asked in a poll should the Circle Line stop going to Hammersmith and become a proper Circle again? I always thought it was a bit illogical to still call it the Circle Line after the change, but I think one of the main reasons for it was so that the trains don't spend all day running in the same direction. Apparently it was causing irregular wear and tear on the wheel flanges on the 'C' Stock, and they didn't want any of the 'S' Stock suffering the same way. I think it was implemented for that reason rather than for passenger convenience, after all if you want to go from say, Goldhawk Road to Victoria, you're not normally going to go via King's Cross, Liverpool Street and Embankment just because it's a through train!!
I hear it's also to make life easier for signallers to regulate services in case of a delay - before a delay could keep going round the circle for hours, whereas now they have a place to terminate trains and regulate the service easier
@@chrisoddy8744 Yes, that makes sense. It's certainly enabled the Circle to become a more "conventional" operation. Journey times are more or less equal now from Hammersmith, whether it goes to Edgware Road via the Circle or to Barking. (No reversals at Whitechapel any more, now that the centre tracks have been filled in).
The ending was absolutely spot on. Well done.
Tristan Lee it’s what Douglas Hofstadter would call “a tangled hierarchy”
It was dopeeee
I didn't even realise at 0:05 you said 'in a second'. Then at 4:50 when you have come full Circle, it's revealed that you're actually talking to yourself! Incredible
That was very clever! LOL!
GroudonKnight how did he do that?
TheMightyKinkle I went back to check when I noticed
Yes I no it's crazy
TheMightyKinkle next Friday I am
4:20 4 years later, Geoff would have a nerdgasm when he finally arrived at platform 4 in HSK on a district line shuttle
that was clever at the end, When you went "a second" at the begninning i was waiting for something but very clever indeed
haha, I noticed that too
I thought you were being 'assled by someone. Like a Big Issue seller or something.
Me too
Loghan wolfesin is
Loghan wolfesin Very clever indeed
Did Anyone else rewind the video to see if he did talk to himself in the first part aswell?
johnny walmer yes I did.
HE DIDN'T!! i love this vid
johnny walmer paradox
Johnny walmer i did
Yep
Very clever at the end, and the intermission. Gave me a giggle!
Yet another winner here 10/10 - Much better than a lot of stuff shown on TV. Your work on the London Underground needs making into a full length documentary film
Maybe TfL would fund it, just the thing for them to sell in the LT museum shop. It would be a great souvenir for visitors to London.
David Rogers BECTU wouldn't like it
Great addition to spectacular series. My tube journeys have never been the same again since I started viewing this series, keep up the good work!
This guy is brilliant. He should work for the BBC.
Maybe for BBC London.
Brilliant as ever, and a time joke! They never get old. Looking forward to the next one.
To this day, a yellow shirted Geoff can still be seen, riding the circle line for eternity and revealing its deepest secrets...
I do wish the circle was still a circle, it's a pain trying to find you way around
Elaine Higham Edgware Roads a massive pain now
James Smart yes the announcements are confusing
agree
I spent ages trying to navigate the circle when my family lived in london for 6 months
Don't they tell you though, for example, "Circle Line train to Edgware Road via Baker Street and King's Cross St. Pancras"? The 'vias' being a rather unambiguous way to tell which way a train is going.
Brilliant call back to the beginning. I played that back a few times to try and work out what was going on before giving up. Made the payoff at the end even better.
Euston Square moved the gateline to include the lift now, but the barriers are often kept open. I love this station, friendly staff, nice, quieter than most.
1:17 you know a train is good when he approves
2:17 love the 8 bit going underground
Another great installment to the series. Loved the little editing trick at the end to :)
I like the groundhog day joke, although the first time you said "In a second, it's time to do the secrets of the circle line", whilst the second time you said "in a second, which means it's time to do secrets of the circle line".
you must be fun at parties
I love how Jeff peeks over the bridges to see the trains at the right time so they come in at the same time
Its like he summons them
Magic of editing :)
Nice one. I've always loved these videos and I can imagine that the deluxe stuff would interest me just as much as everything else :-)
That Ending was just Incredible, Well Done Jeff 👏
As for the question in the i, I have a different solution:
- Circle Line every 5' between Hammersmith and Gloucester Road, and then alternately to Edware Road (like today) or Kensington (Olympia)
- Hammersmith&City Line is shut down
- District line trains in relation Wimbledon - Edgware Road are extended to Barking, along today's H&C
Advantages:
- passengers get a direct service from around High Street Ken to around King's Cross St. Pancras, similar to the old Circle line
- Kensington (Olympia) would get a proper integration into the Underground network, instead of today's limited shuttle service
What do you think?
Disadvantages:
- It would look rather confusing on the Tube map: you would have both Circle and District lines seemingly going around zone 1 in a circle. Sure, the District line will “break the loop” at Aldgate East and Earl’s Court, while the Circle line won’t, but that doesn’t mean it won’t confuse a lot of people. Remember, many tourists (and even some Londoners!) still get caught out by the two branches of the Northern line - there’s no way these people would find this new sub-surface layout simple. (That is, of course, unless you rebrand and rename that new District line route via Farringdon - Wimbledon & City line perhaps?...)
- Your proposal would give a total of 30 trains per hour between Baker Street and Liverpool Street (12 Circle + 12 Metropolitan + 6 Wimbledon & City), as well as 30 trains per hour between Tower Hill and Gloucester Road (12 Circle + 18 District); that’s up from 24 on both sections today. And that’s just during the off-peak - at rush hour that number may be even higher! That kind of frequency sounds great in theory but it’s not practical in reality. No other London Underground line currently runs 30tph in the off-peak, and only some lines just about manage that in the peak. Deep-tube lines like the Central or Victoria line can get away with having such high frequencies because they are entirely self-contained and only have grade-separated junctions. The sub-surface lines, meanwhile, have flat junctions at Baker Street, Gloucester Road, and either side of Aldgate; these junctions would seriously struggle to handle 30tph even at peak times - never mind throughout the day! So in conclusion, this service pattern would be extremely unreliable.
- In a similar vein, there would be 30tph running through Earl’s Court station. At least the junctions either side of that station are grade-separated - but the problem here is the track layout. If you study it very carefully, you will notice that going eastbound, none of the 30 trains every hour would be able to arrive/depart Earl’s Court station simultaneously! So essentially you’re again trying to squeeze 30tph onto one bit of track, which drastically reduces reliability. (Weirdly, it wouldn’t be a problem going westbound.)
- The single-track section on the Olympia branch is actually pretty long, so if you try to squeeze 6tph (or 1 train every 10 minutes) onto that track, then these trains would have to have ridiculously short turnaround times at Olympia (which causes yet another reliability problem).
Sorry if I burst your bubble a little - on paper your plan sounds like a good idea - but unfortunately there are a few technical problems with it 😢.
Always enjoy your Secrets of the Underground videos.
4:53 Brilliant, Brilliant, Brilliant!
Absolutely brilliant and very informative and some very clever editing
i absolutely LOVE these videos. i want to visit london!
I love the editing at the end its like going back in time
I love Geoff for all his little imperfections
Very interesting + well presented, as always.
Clever bastard! I love the trick. Excellently presented as always
Rail gap indicator at 2:06. :-)
Finally I've found another rail nerd that appreciates knowing stuff!
Wow, this series is so good!
1:15 also the front doors on S stock are smaller than the rest!
the windows
love these vids....used to travel the tube all weekend as a kid on a "red rover". unlimited travel for half a crown in old money, mind you there was'nt a jubilee or victoria line in them days, but i was totally facinated.. i feel like an anorak
Emin7 A red rover was for buses only. What you must have had was a twin rover.
Very Informative! Noticed matching Yellow Nikes too
Epic video!! The circle line is just so like the metropolitan Line and Hammersmith and city line and even the District line!!!!!
Aha! I saw that the map you used on ths video still has the Epping-Ongar section of the Central Line shown, the Aldwych branch of the Piccadilly line and the Metropolitan Line which ran up to Brill, Wood Siding and Verney Junction.
Not Brill/Wood Siding/Verney Junction.
Euston Square has the same thing as Liverpool Lime street. A lift, down to the platform that bypasses the guards and the barriers
You can get the circle line from one platform at Paddington, the ones next to the GWR, stay on it all the way round London and then get off at the sub surface platforms later
Edgware is quite possibly my favourite tune station. I just love all the plants and the tiles and how half the station platform is underground and the other half is open to the sky
All the plants? Are you sure that’s not the other Edgware Road station (the one on the Bakerloo line)? Because that station has a “vertical garden” on one of the walls!
Love the London Underground song in that intermission
Well they were probably playing Going Underground by the Jam
Question: how do you get charged for your fare if you dont use the barriers on entry, but do on exit?
That was really bugging me that 'in a second' bit, firstly cos i thought it was quite rude that someone would interrupt but secondly that youd left it in... Glad you cleared it up cos i was getting kinda p'd off lol!!!
Love these videos. London ♡
Great info on these remarkable pieces of industrial heritage.
Not only did South Ken have Metropolitan lines running through where there is now a platform with no rails, but in the 50s the District ran “fast’ trains running there nonstop from Earls Court to Sloane Square. I can’t remember if they had fast trains the other way though. Anybody know?
I wonder how many of these secrets are re-created in the game, World of Subways 3: London Underground Circle Line.
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I checked a few of them: The more obvious ones are there (like the westbourne at Sloane Square or the 4 platforms at High Street Kensington) are the, but the details (like the missing second s at one sign of St. Jamses's Park) are not there.
Jason Prenga thanks
SgtMays
PPYW
I went to St James’ Park the other day- the gates had a mind of their own! I saw loads of people who they just opened for, they were open until someone put their ticket in and it closed, it was CRAZY!
That Loop is still awesome! Well done
I remember once walking through a subway which connected Aldgate Station with Aldgate East Station. It's not marked on a tube map anywhere...
I spent almost the whole video wondering who had interrupted you at the beginning and why you'd left it in. And then the ending answered everything - completing the circle. Very clever! Certainly more clever than I, seeing as I'm the 12533411589844th person to mention this...
I worked on the Underground in the 1980's and the staff used to have a rifle range in Baker Street Station.
There used to be a licensed bar on the westbound platform at Sloane Square station.
I miss the C stock trains on the circle line. they went out of service in june 2014
2:17 Ahh "The London Underground Song" I see what you did there ;)
London Underground, London Underground
Or "Going Underground," take your pick
Going Underground
0:05 he only put himself at the start at the end
I always see that abandoned platform and wonder what used to run through south ken
Hmmm... so Geoff approves a Yellow hoodie on the Circle Line... I use the Overground, so I need to get an Orange and white stripey T-shirt
Don'tLookOrItTakesYou O.O yes you should.
Note his Yellow Nike shoes as well. Maybe you should get some orange & white nike's lol
such a cool channel...aldgate east - u can see the trains queuing up...also, on the dot matrix board, the hammersmith and city was due in 6 minutes, then suddenly disappeared lol...so got on the train to kc and over the pa, heard that "the dot matrix isn't working properly!...the victoria line was busy (busy station - one escalator!)...oxford circus (victoria line), closed due to overcrowding ...hmm, well one escalator working lol...tottenham court road (where the crossrail is hidden among the signs)...hoburn or piccalilly...lol (where ur videos meet the tourist!)..life on the northern line is fave, keep up the good work!
So does anyone live at 5 Thurloe Square? You wouldn't be able to fit a table in!
Congrats on 1 MILLION views!
Casio interlude of Going Underground by The Jam! Love it!
Can you do a video of why the circle line is always late, has Engineering works, cancelled trains, trains running on average every 11mins. I honestly hated the central line the most untill I started using the circle line. Fyi - Westminster Station trains have a 4 ft height difference when parked next to one another
I LOVED peeking over the top in south kens! I loved seeing that when I lived there
I stumbled across you channel a little while ago and I have been loving it so far. Being on the other side of the Atlantic, your videos are currently my only way to explore London and the Underground the way I would like to, looking for the little details that have written the story of the city. I've learned a lot about the fascinating tube system. Looking forward to the next episode! Your enthusiasm is infectous and, if I may add, you're quite handsome too hahaha!
Let me guess...Secrets of the Metropolitan Line and Secrets of the Overground? :P
***** Waterloo and City? From what I understand it's more of a National Rail shuttle than an actual tube line, at least it's what I have been told...
Waterloo and city is too obvious and it will be too short and they will never have an extension for more stations to make it look interresting
I noticed that on the tube map, the part from Hammersmith to Aldgate/Liverpool Street (top half) is a different shade to the bottom half (Aldgate/Liverpool Street to Edgware Road)
Geoff, I will tell you a secret that even YOU don't know about. My uncle Jim used to service the chocolate machines on the underground in the recent past. Have you ever put money in to one of them and got nothing out? Well they used to be serviced by VI, (Vending Industries) and those chocolate machines which didn't function were known as "money boxes". They were used purposely because they didn't work and they used to be emptied of money straight into the pockets of VI operatives! Every tube station used to have a certain number of 'money boxes'. I, myself had fallen foul in the past of these monsters! So now you know! 😂
That was BRILLIANT! Great video. and thank you for the info and tips!
***** Oh yeah....I know....lol. I'm addicted to them....lots of really cool info.
I liked what you did at the beginning and the end. ("in a second...") Didn't even notice when I first watched it - now it's so hard to not notice lel
Love the twist at the end!! Very informative video too.
That ending was great
Have you done a video on exactly why the Circle Line extension to Hammersmith came about? Had a look for one but couldn't see anything.
That ending was superb!
Installing the lift Westbound at Euston Sq seems silly to me. If you installed it Eastbound then the people who need step free access, but need to go Westbound instead, can just take a quick one stop to King’s X where you can just cross the platform (as the tracks aren’t in the middle there unlike most subsurface stations) without any steps to go back westbound. With this westbound setup people who need to go east need to travel west all the way to Royal Oak to cross the platform step-free to go back east again.
love the little buffering video and music
Only London could have such a thing that actually don't exist while other cities across the UK are screaming out for such a thing but never get the funding.
But why was the circle line "extended" to Hammersmith?
I didn't understand why there are those two tunnels at High Street Kensington for the Olympia shuttle.....
+marcoE424 because they planned to extend the lines further north - by the Metropolitan District Railway company. the other lines that were already there had been built by the Metropolitan Railway company (similar name, confusing!)
3:58 why does he have a map from when Central line went to Ongar - That was from 1994! Maybe even older!
At Moorgate, Circle Line level, there is a one station sign that is not in the standard London Underground font.
Yes, it's geeky of me, but does anyone know how this came to be? It was there in August 2017.
this is basically like the loop on the cta except there are way less stations in the loop
2:17 when you want the vid to be 5 mins long 😂😂😂
WAAAAIT Geoff at 2:22 Is that the London Underground song?
2:17 Whats the music called? I love it
2:17
Nice _Going Underground_ test card!
Love this vid❤❤
Yes, the Bakerloo line is down there... I think
All these videos are Fucking great
Don't forget to type FUCKING. It makes you way cool.
@@thisherecat4black397 I Hate That Word
Mind your language
Grow up you bunch of babies
Never a dull video. I think you sped this one up after it was all edited. It seems like it was really flying by. It is a good one.
***** Length does not seem to impact the view counts on my channel. Long videos, in fact, sometimes get more views, like 15 minutes. There is just no good logic to it in my experience. Day of the week posted, on a holiday, on a Thursday?
Hi Geoff, loved the series, perfect for an ex commuter like me, 20 odd years was enough though.
Just a quick question though,before the Edgware start/ finish, where did the trains start and finish ?
I watched every video on this channel, but I only realise now that you're always trying to match your shirt to the color of the line. That's great! Keep up the good work on this series
trainers too !
+Londonist Ltd
Did you know? Aldgate Station was built on top of a Plague Pit
4:42 who touches the oyster card or contactless or ticket with their left handed? I'm left handed but inserts the ticket with my right hand
I touch it with my left cuz my card is in my left pocket and I use the bus more, which has readers on your left as you enter
south Kensington there Is a abandoned platform if u see at 3:49
In Singapore, we also have Circle Line.
And it’s not a circle at all
Hi Geoff, Love your videos, but please can you go to Notting Hill Gate? When you did the Circle Line you hopped from High St Ken to Paddington and I was longing to see NHG.
h i s t o r y
is there a labyrinth at ALL tube stations? I live next to London and Me and my BF are planning to do a day looking at all the secrets of the tube that we find interesting enough to warrant a trip there haha, I would like to see how many labyrinths we can find!
At every tube station, yup! www.geofftech.co.uk/tube/labyrinth.html
Paige Clifton cool
You asked in a poll should the Circle Line stop going to Hammersmith and become a proper Circle again? I always thought it was a bit illogical to still call it the Circle Line after the change, but I think one of the main reasons for it was so that the trains don't spend all day running in the same direction. Apparently it was causing irregular wear and tear on the wheel flanges on the 'C' Stock, and they didn't want any of the 'S' Stock suffering the same way. I think it was implemented for that reason rather than for passenger convenience, after all if you want to go from say, Goldhawk Road to Victoria, you're not normally going to go via King's Cross, Liverpool Street and Embankment just because it's a through train!!
I hear it's also to make life easier for signallers to regulate services in case of a delay - before a delay could keep going round the circle for hours, whereas now they have a place to terminate trains and regulate the service easier
@@chrisoddy8744 Yes, that makes sense. It's certainly enabled the Circle to become a more "conventional" operation. Journey times are more or less equal now from Hammersmith, whether it goes to Edgware Road via the Circle or to Barking. (No reversals at Whitechapel any more, now that the centre tracks have been filled in).
I like Geoff's yellow trainers matching the Circle Line coloured shirt
But if you don't go through the tube barrier, how do you get out?