Money’s Mostly Digital, So Why Is Moving It So Hard?

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  • @dannooo548
    @dannooo548 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7656

    Impressed that Sam was able to go from nothing to fractional reserve banking in 3 minutes

    • @ibnu7942
      @ibnu7942 2 ปีที่แล้ว +186

      my brain hurts

    • @Nethershaw
      @Nethershaw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +184

      Not _nothing_ really, but... fruit.
      Yeah, okay, that's basically nothing.

    • @tiggaaah5650
      @tiggaaah5650 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Fractional reserve banking is kinda basic, where else would you start?

    • @vigilantcosmicpenguin8721
      @vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 2 ปีที่แล้ว +188

      It starts out with apples and oranges, and it's like, okay, I understand this. A blink of an eye later I realize I'm understanding the insane logistics by which our entire financial system operates. That's impressive.

    • @cloudynguyen6527
      @cloudynguyen6527 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ibnu7942 Fractional reserve is just the central bank or government telling other banks to keep a minimum amount of money in case there are mass withdrawing, which is rare. But consider the recent China's housing crisis, you must do something fuck up so bad that triggers mass withdrawing.

  • @dacid44
    @dacid44 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1989

    Man. You just explained in 20 minutes everything that took weeks to understand in a high school economics class, and I have way more understanding of the reasoning behind it all! Thank you!

    • @OperationDarkside
      @OperationDarkside 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Maybe teachers will forbid youtube in school in the future, like they did with wikipedia back in the day in our school.

    • @dirverslicense
      @dirverslicense 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      oh please, he used nice graphics but can you pass your highschool course from this video? Edit: and as others have pointed out is rife with inaccuracies. So stop being a smooth brain and go read your text.

    • @nomore-constipation
      @nomore-constipation 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      @@dirverslicense You seriously sound like a teacher. One who tests spelling for botany, and with using original Latin names.
      Just because you might have to use it later in life (is usually the excuse) but refuse to acknowledge a large amount of details like that are researched (books or internet).
      What is simple for you may not be for someone else (or visa versa) those who might gather more information on a subject from someone else. 🤷

    • @arcticthehunter7099
      @arcticthehunter7099 2 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      @@dirverslicense They don't have to pass their course from one video. But if they can pass weeks worth of class from one 20 minute video(which they said they can), then that's a pretty good use of 20 minutes. Stop trying to be some kind of educational purist and accept that this isn't the 80's anymore

    • @MaximumEfficiency
      @MaximumEfficiency 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      no, he didn't explain interests and money as debt

  • @TimeBucks
    @TimeBucks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3892

    He nailed some massive concepts in such a simple way

    • @harounhajem7972
      @harounhajem7972 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      He missed that countries can create money from thin air in exchange for future payout or taxation.

    • @Gt92279
      @Gt92279 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@harounhajem7972 bro.. can you help me out here.. I still don't understand how he ended up with more than 100,000.. its impossible

    • @afrozritu6101
      @afrozritu6101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nice for the exam

    • @satyampaul9973
      @satyampaul9973 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nice

    • @satyampaul9973
      @satyampaul9973 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nice exam

  • @iamthinking2252_
    @iamthinking2252_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +213

    I've seen a few (ok, maybe just two or three) nutshellish or step-by-step explanations/evolutions of money, but the blender analogy - getting two blenders worth of value out of one value - is the viewpoint that had never occured to me before, thankyou

  • @mrbetabombs2017
    @mrbetabombs2017 ปีที่แล้ว +527

    My dumb ass thought this video was gonna be about armored trucks moving physical money through cities lol

    • @nelsonicies4800
      @nelsonicies4800 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      I was expecting currency exchange haha

    • @Alexx00023
      @Alexx00023 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      😂😂

    • @bushnelochieng6353
      @bushnelochieng6353 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      😂😂😂lmao

    • @tjb3171
      @tjb3171 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I was thinking the exact same thing lmao

    • @shawnrigsby4171
      @shawnrigsby4171 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The title says “digital money” , stop acting stupid looking for attention. It’s embarrassing

  • @BrianPaick
    @BrianPaick 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2294

    I kind of love the stock footage of the clay balls. Also, "It sounds like a scam, and maybe it is." Awesome video!

    • @gonebamboo4116
      @gonebamboo4116 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      It most definitely is

    • @vigilantcosmicpenguin8721
      @vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Yeah, using clay balls was perfect. It's like, you understand the connection to money, however abstract it is.

    • @choian9953
      @choian9953 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ok

    • @wasd____
      @wasd____ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@franmer7 Thanks for letting us know your "joke" was funny, crypto-bro shill!

    • @brokeindio5072
      @brokeindio5072 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      If banks do it, it’s not a scam because they always get bailed out lmao

  • @Maxyy40
    @Maxyy40 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2951

    Best Wendover video in a while. All are great but this breaks down an incredibly complex system.

    • @PaperCash999
      @PaperCash999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Yeah my brain hurts

    • @tijmenberends242
      @tijmenberends242 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fact

    • @arevolvingdoor3836
      @arevolvingdoor3836 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Agreed, I think the pushback after the California High speed rail video has helped to spur him into making better video.

    • @6z0
      @6z0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is too much for me rn

    • @siddharthsrinivas6271
      @siddharthsrinivas6271 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@arevolvingdoor3836 that was real life lore

  • @UselessDuckCompany
    @UselessDuckCompany 2 ปีที่แล้ว +328

    There is a technical layer under this that I find fascinating, I deal with it sometimes as in my day job I work with airline/hotel loyalty currency systems. A lot of these bank systems still run on old mainframe infrastructure that uses nightly batch files, rather than API calls. It's crazy really, and it is what can make it take 24 hours+ to process a transaction. These file formats are so old that they still have special characters in them that relate back to the days of punch cards.

    • @hardopinions
      @hardopinions 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      That's very simplistic view without explanation of WHY it happens. Even today, it's far cheaper to process large volumes of transactions at once (eg. credit cards and bank accounts) than in real time. Real time all you get is a notification of authorization from a processor. Settlement is some ways away.
      Also, these "nightly batch files" are the API. Your definition is just so narrow you don't seem to see it.

    • @outerspaceisalie
      @outerspaceisalie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      There is a fair amount of work being done to update this, and it's happening, but as you can imagine it's not that easy to convert a deeply entrenched money system even if the tech to do it is very straightforward.

    • @shanewalker3273
      @shanewalker3273 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      @@hardopinions You have the simplistic view. Moving payment processing from an asynchronous batch model to a streaming model is not noticeably computationally or financially more expensive, there just hasn't been a motivation for banks to make this switch. Countries like Brazil and India have forced their banks to make this switch, America made it voluntary. Zelle, used by most American banks is already instantaneous / streaming and not batching because the customer experience was better.

    • @ilyaSyntax
      @ilyaSyntax 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      COBOL job security haha

    • @jeffreypierson2064
      @jeffreypierson2064 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@ilyaSyntax Someone is going to make a fortune if they can write a compiler to switch COBOL to a modern language. The number of banks and governmental agencies that want to update their software is large and mostly willing to pay top dollar.

  • @iainmalcolm9583
    @iainmalcolm9583 2 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Great video. I worked in IT for a large UK Nationalised Industry in the 1970's. When we processed the weekly payroll for the manual workers (they were paid cash weekly) part of the process broke down all the payments into all the required notes & coins. These were sent to the company bank branches so that what was required for each location would be withdrawn and then collated at each pay office into individual pay packets every Friday. This was stopped after a few years as all the weekly paid staff were paid by computerised bank transfer.
    The stat I was told at the time was that as the cash didn't leave the company account until the Friday (pay day) instead of the Wednesday/Thursday this resulted in saving of around £1,000,000 a week just in interest. There was also knock on saving in staff, security costs etc.

  • @Lukusprime
    @Lukusprime 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Great job explaining how money is just a placeholder for something with actual value. That’s why I have such a disdain for theft and why I don’t understand why one would steal outside of pure necessity (I.E. a homeless person stealing food in order to survive). Money is social credit in a sense, saying “I have something of value” or “I did something of value”, such as working at a grocery store. If I work at a grocery store for a week, then at the end of the week they give me money, what the owner of the store is really saying is “you did something of value for me, this money let’s people know that, so someone will do something of value for you in exchange.” So I can go pay my electric bill, and instead of saying “I’m a good citizen, I helped the owner of a grocery store stock shelves for a week!” The electric company doesn’t have to take my word for it, because I can just give them the money. Therefore, if I were to steal someone else’s money and used it to buy something like a flatscreen TV, I would be basically lying, saying I did something of enough value to earn this TV, when really I’m just profiting off of someone else’s work while reaping the benefits for myself. It’s so dishonest and illogical that I just can’t see how people can rationalize it in their brains.

    • @curtisevans8413
      @curtisevans8413 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Simply not giving a fuck or not being intelligent enough to see it that way is how people can rationalise it.

    • @dmitrirudder4878
      @dmitrirudder4878 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      There is also a point which, If a person is downtrodden enough, and internalized the thought "this system will never let me succeed/ accomplish anything", they will want the system to burn. Even in a Capitalist Utopia, you have to maintain minimum welfare and a bare minimum of SoL for the poorest. People with nothing to lose, everything to gain, and a entrenched desire to win in a system they see as bent against them are a danger to themselves and everyone around them.

    • @dmitrirudder4878
      @dmitrirudder4878 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      As dark as it sounds, giving them a little dribble of hope on the short run may just stop them from flash mobbing an Aldi's

  • @emercer
    @emercer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +162

    As someone who's been a fan of the channel for a while and working at Wise for almost a decade now, I'm very happy to see us mentioned in a Wendover video.

    • @plainlogo3262
      @plainlogo3262 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      And I found myself feeling like a fan of Wise ever since I discovered it's existence back in 2019. Made my exchange student life in Korea much cheaper and convenient. I don't usually get that excited about companies/products/services.

    • @ChasmChaos
      @ChasmChaos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I am so glad he mentioned it as well. I was rolling my eyes at ACH and was delighted when he mentioned Wise. I wish he had spoken about other UK/European challenger banks as well (Monzo, Revolut etc).

    • @ToastAndJellyfish
      @ToastAndJellyfish 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I just wish y’all didn’t punish people for how they link their bank accounts up. Takes me a week to do a transfer, and the only way to do it faster is to completely unlink my bank account and then relink it via a much more invasive verification that effectively changes nothing. Same accounts, same access. But the “your transfer will take longer, why don’t you jump through hoops and bark like a seal for us” message every time is obnoxious. :\
      I appreciate not getting bent over by PayPal, though, and fortunately the people I send to are understanding about the wait.

  • @knpark2025
    @knpark2025 2 ปีที่แล้ว +581

    Fun fact, the etymology for 'money' in Korean(돈) is 'to circulate'(돈다). It's just like the word currency, a fancy word for money, sharing its roots with current, as in flow of something. It is kind of cool, because other languages often use the material or the mint it was made for their word root.

    • @kazj1728
      @kazj1728 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Omg I love this. Word roots show alot of history and truth.

    • @Nukepositive
      @Nukepositive 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      It goes beyond current. It comes from Latin currere (sp?), which is the verb for a chariot going around in circles at the Circus Maximus. It also leads us to the English words curriculum and career.

    • @enricobianchi4499
      @enricobianchi4499 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@Nukepositive that verb just means to run

    • @dcgo44r
      @dcgo44r 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Nukepositive chariot going around circles is just another meaning then, because chariots run and flow through streets like traffic now.. Or in the circus or whatever! Lol!

    • @FlameRat_YehLon
      @FlameRat_YehLon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Meanwhile all the words that describes money in Chinese was just the names of all kinds of historically used trading tokens, and there are a lot of different words because of that.

  • @googiegress
    @googiegress 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1591

    The initial question "how was the value created", you missed that the watermelon grower added fruit credits to the system by growing fruit. All the fruit growers do. But in that specific loan transaction, the melon grower spent 2500 in interest but presumably grew more than 9000 credits worth of watermelons; if she grew only 9k, then when she took in the 7500 loan and paid out 9k she broke even. So let's say she actually grew 10k credits but wouldn't have been able to without the irrigation loan of 7500. Meaning that in that complete transaction, the bank earned 1500 profit, the melon grower earned 1000, and the bank received back the original 7500 loan (it was just playing with other peoples' money here).
    But the melon grower didn't just put clay balls in the ground and turn on the sprinklers. She had to work. If she replanted last year's seeds, and you live in an area where water is free, she still needs to physically plant, harvest, and bring the melons to market. So one source of the "added value" is her labor.
    The melon grower is using land. Either she owns it, or she's renting it. Regardless, the space used to grow melon and the fertility of the soil represent a source of value, a resource which can be used to add value to the system.
    The bank can't operate without the work of people. Someone has to research whether the melon grower is an appropriate borrower, whether the loan purpose is worthwhile, actually offer the loan, do the paperwork, receive the repayment, and do that paperwork, send out the interest payments to depositors, serve those depositors' needs like deposits and withdrawals, etc. All that labor, and the place where the bank is located, represent the same labor and real resources which allow the bank to make that 1500 credits.
    What I'm getting at is that the labor and real assets represent the source of value-adding.
    The bank may create phantom money to lend beyond its deposits. In Adam Smith's time it was appropriate to lend no more than 7x your deposits, else you risk a run on the bank. Today, large banks can get away with lending a lot more than that. Lending 0.75x your deposits is laughable. This money-creation through lending is incredibly powerful but it is a risk. As we saw in the melon example, 10,000 real melons actually got created because (a) the bank made a loan available, (2) the bank and the grower were willing to take a risk, and (c) the grower was willing to employ her land and labor to make the melons. If the loan hadn't happened, the grower would have not fully employed their labor and land.
    So from the macro perspective, money is a government's way to make the economic exchanges happen smoothly, hoping to get all the labor and real assets in the country as fully employed as possible. All the people who labor and earn money can take care of their own needs instead of relying on public or government support. And the more goods are available, the more can be reinvested in improving the productivity of labor and real assets (making next year even more productive), and a surplus can be exported in exchange for additional value.
    At the micro level you can see this happen with a household's finances. A family with no assets or education can go out and get subsistence-level jobs and then pay rent on a small bad apartment.
    1. If they have tons of kids, they can employ those kids in labor. This is what families around the world have done.
    2. If one of them works to gain experience on the job, they might be promoted to a higher paying position or negotiate for a better wage because of greater productivity.
    3. If one of them can get an education that allows them entry into a higher-paying job, they would be willing to take a loan to get that education.
    4. if they buy some materials to make something at home as a small business and sell it for extra money, the limitation is often how much they can spend on the materials, marketing, distribution. Because it's such a small operation, big companies don't want to work with them. And there are inefficiencies to working in such a small scale. But if they can get a small business loan to increase their operation's size, they can maximize their labor input and take advantage of efficiencies of scale.
    5. An extended family can come together to share expenses. Instead of the marriage-age / working-age adults always moving out from their parents' home, they could stay on. The elder takes care of the kids, the young adult goes out to work, and in this way the elders are still able to perform valuable labor and the young adults don't have to spend money on out-of-family childcare. This and the next one overlap a bit with the concept of keeping money local, because the more transactions that can happen before the money gets sent out of the community, the more that community benefits from the money.
    6. Several households could join together to share skills and burdens. The most common version of this in the US is roommates, where four single people can split the rent on a large dwelling and it's way cheaper for each than if each one rented a studio apartment. They must share common areas and be good neighbors for it to work. And they must rely on each other to pay their respective portions. A more involved version would be four families joining together in a deal where each night one family cooks for all four, and each day each family watches the children of all four, which frees up 75% of the time that would take for each household for those tasks on rotation. The more things like this they can share, the more they all benefit. An even deeper version would be a commune where the households exchange labor without exchanging money, allowing them to benefit from each others' skills and work even though they are too money-poor to be able to ever afford those services and also underemployed meaning their labor would otherwise lie fallow.
    Heck, just a shared fence line is a sharing of burdens. One fence can be built for 1000 credits, but if it's between two lots then both properties benefit from it, whereas a fence built at the back of a lot that doesn't face anything important only benefits the one side of the fence.

    • @AndrewBrowner
      @AndrewBrowner 2 ปีที่แล้ว +207

      right but i think where youre losing the plot is 9,000 credits didnt pop out of the ground, only melons did, the melons were exchanged for credits that already existed.. physically the entire time there was only 100,000 credits in existence, but in practice there was 110,000 credits in operation as the credits in the bank were working double duty
      growing, mining, building, ect ect doesnt produce money, it just allows the money a place to flow and gives those people money to spend.. really the faster one person spends all their money the sooner someone else has excess money to spend and if that person spends it so on and so on people end up with alot more purchasing power, they spend the same money 20x instead of 5x they also work much harder as theyre always doing something for someone else to get that money back to give to another person to do something for them
      the trick to economics and economies is to convince people to spend the money and not horde it, while also keeping them working constantly to get the money back and put the value into the system to get others to let go of their funds
      really when a government says we dont have money to do X project really they just cant convince everyone to collectively do that extra bit of work, theres a bottle neck somewhere be it cost of energy rising due to there being a lack of it, or maybe a lack of extra funds at the banking level to lend out affordably.. you have 100,000 unemployed people but cant get 5000 people to complete this project, theres no lack of people the system is just not working fluidly enough to make the money flow in all directions.. itd benefit everyone if the project undergoers had the money to pay the workers to do it and the for the materials to get it done, the materials exist they just might require processing and extraction.. the system just got so big that its near impossible to keep everything in a constant balance when one commodity goes in short supply the price skyrockets and its like a bound up gear in a transmission it wont let anything else turn easily

    • @Abigail-hu5wf
      @Abigail-hu5wf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +294

      In this thread we see: the labour theory of value and the subjective theory of value having an extremely polite slap-fight!
      For those who are lost... the summary is that not everyone agrees on *where value originates.*
      Some people state that value is created when humans put in the work to create a thing that possesses, in itself, some inherent value bestowed upon it by the creation process. Basically... if I spent one hour making a little wooden object, and my labour is worth $10 per hour, then that little wooden object's value should be roughly $10 because that's how long I worked on it.
      Others state that value is subjective, determined by the purchaser of the object when they agree to purchase it, and until that point an object's value is entirely theoretical. If I construct my little wooden object, I can slap a "$10" sticker on the side and sit there at the market until someone buys it. When they agree, "yes, $10 is a fair amount for this", then it has been decided: my little wooden object is worth $10.
      There are other theories of value! I won't explain them, or try to explain the ones I have explained further. I will also state that *nobody has yet created a "perfect" theory of value.* We do not have a single theory of "where did those $10,000 of watermelon money come from?" We have a lot of arguments and a lot of convincing cases, but it's fundamentally not as simple as saying "It must have come from here!" Some people even argue that no, Sam in the video is wrong, $10,000 was never created and we're all just deluding ourselves, in fact no money is real and all monetary value is an illusion. And you know what? They might be right. We don't actually have a concrete way of stating it.
      (Though, for what it's worth, almost everyone agrees that while money might be fake, that doesn't make it less real. If everyone agrees that a thing is true, and that thing isn't like... tied to some fundamental rule of nature, it's just a construction made by humans... then it's essentially "made real". So while there's no natural law stating that the dollar must exist, if we all agree it exists then it does and that doesn't make it less real.)

    • @awsome7201
      @awsome7201 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      @@Abigail-hu5wf Spot on Abigail!!
      Besides, Karl Marx's Labour Theory of Value has been discredited and prooven wrong several times over the past century, for anyone who doesn't know it.

    • @googiegress
      @googiegress 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      @@AndrewBrowner Hi Andrew :)
      In Wendover's example, "fruit credits" exist as a separate thing from the fruits themselves, and since each fruit credit was originally set at 1 apple or orange or pear, it seems like the melon farmer didn't really grow 9000 or 10,000 melons. It was probably about 1/4 that because of the melon-to-apple comparison. The melon farmer harvested melons, and needed to transform those melons into fruit credits to repay her loan. So she went to the market with X number of melons, exchanged them for 9000 fruit credits, and brought those credits to the bank. The market is able to hand her fruit credits it has in its fund because it knows it can sell those melons for those credits (let's ignore that the market needs to take a fee too).
      It's a weird example because the fruit credits are tied to, in this early stage, the ability to exchange credits for fruit and for some other farming-related equipment. It could be a stand-in for loaves of bread. But the important thing to remember is that regardless of the currency, which is essentially just a codified promise everyone agrees to keep with each other, the reality is that this:
      The bank customers agreed to leave their money with the bank for a small profit. The bank agreed to let the farmer hold the money for a while. All that is just money as facilitating human action to happen. The money doesn't need to actually exist (and often doesn't). As you said, it's a trick to get people to be productive. The actual productivity happens in the irrigation dealer and his chain of events that gets an irrigation system built (which is a series of labor and real asset steps), and the farmer working the land (again, a series of labor and asset steps).
      So I guess it's like working out and paying someone to lead a workout class. They motivate you to show up by demanding accountability from you, teaching, leading, etc. And you end up working out harder and more effectively than if you did it alone. You might be the one physically doing all the work, but that person motivating is doing a service. And the people taking the class feel it's worth paying the motivator for it.
      I'm not arguing that banks don't matter or are bad, just that the value-creation is physically happening because the bank motivates other people to work hard and use their assets.

    • @googiegress
      @googiegress 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@Abigail-hu5wf Hi Abigail :)
      I appreciate your definitions in this. I don't deny a subjective theory of value at all. I don't think it's incompatible with seeing value as being created by production rather than financing.
      Personally I do hate the idea of what people describe as "perceived value". For everyone else: this would be, if you buy a pair of shoes for $100 that has no brand name, but the Nike shoes you are willing to buy for $200. The extra amount you're willing to pay is because Nike has a reputation for making quality shoes, so you trust they will be quality without having to really examine them or take a chance on the rate of deterioration when you wear them. And also because you like it when people see you wearing the shoes and they have a higher opinion of you because they know the brand is good and expensive.
      I hate perceived value for two reasons:
      (1) The same factory that made the Nike shoes could have made the brand-x ones. And while this is not always the case, such as an off-brand purse from Nordstrom vs. a high quality leather purse made by Coach, it actually is often the case especially with BS brands like Beats headphones.
      (2) To seize the sense of exclusivity, the producer of the branded goods benefits by raising the price higher and higher. And one could argue that the buyer's goal of gaining social status by owning it is benefiting from that. But the reality truly IS that for all other purposes the purse or shoes could be made for sale at $100 if there were no marketing and no brand status. I don't know about other people, but I would rather buy the $100 non-label but quality shoes rather than Nikes. Perversely, because I feel that I'm advertising for them by wearing the goods, I should get a kickback rather than paying extra. And because I don't like being branded by things I wear, I'd actually be willing to pay $120 for those Nikes made without any labels, in the absence of some other non-label $100 pair of comparable quality. I guess I'm, as economists lament, an irrational actor ;P
      Anyway, for me personally there is no such thing as "perceived value" from branding. And it's hard for me to really grasp why people do fall for it / crave social status via property display. Even though my girlfriend is totally down for it and I am constantly given opportunities to try to understand!

  • @scpdatabase69420
    @scpdatabase69420 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    At any one time, a local bank is likely to have $100-250K on hand. They will move about $500K-$1.5M worth of money that day as people come to deposit and withdraw money.
    You have to remember that businesses also use banks so they tend to deposit a lot while people withdraw a lot. It generally balances out to more cash/money in the bank than our daily.

  • @Naviss
    @Naviss 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    No matter how complex the topic or subject, Wendover does such a fantastic job breaking it down.

  • @Atabascael
    @Atabascael 2 ปีที่แล้ว +752

    As someone who worked on implementing SWIFT for a bank, I can only say it is impressive how detailed your explanation is.

    • @TheBooban
      @TheBooban 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      And you accept the end conclusion regarding Wise? He implies has some cheap crappy system that is insecure and that’s why its so cheap.
      I don’t think so. I think it’s cheap because banks have been ripping us off all this time. Wise must also have a robust system. And the whole thing is just data management which computers are very good at. It really shouldn’t cost what banks charge.
      And not deducting from the sender? Come on. Never going to happen. They will get that money from him in the end. And if they don’t? Just gotta man up and take it the bank, just like Wise.

    • @Atabascael
      @Atabascael 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@TheBooban Yeah, totally agree. I personally use Wise (mostly for sending money) and Revolut (mostly for spending money) because banks still haven't figured that one out.

    • @coopergates9680
      @coopergates9680 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Atabascael Can't send to Nigeria with Wise any more > : ( The regulations don't cooperate like they should

    • @jasondashney
      @jasondashney 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I'm not going to fact check every single video so it's cool when people with knowledge can attest to the information.

    • @justcurious1940
      @justcurious1940 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Atabascael how western union moves money across border? is it the same way as wise ?

  • @AllAboutRSCC
    @AllAboutRSCC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +736

    As a non-finance student, this *really* helps me understand just how complex our financial systems are, and for the real need for smarter-than-me finance students... Thanks guys, couldn't be me

    • @nickynada-btc
      @nickynada-btc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It so complicated that they don't even know how much money is created. This will all change with CBDCs, you will have an account directly with the central bank. Programmable money directly connected to your social credit score.
      or
      You can begin learning about a trustless system like BTC ( not eth or any other shitcoin) just BTC for money.

    • @rillywoop
      @rillywoop 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@nickynada-btc except no one has real incentive to do this work and connect it

    • @gwyn.
      @gwyn. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      It's not that complicated when you take some time to sit down and read about the inner workings if you're interested.
      Just like anything else really.

    • @Grizabeebles
      @Grizabeebles 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Money is a form of credit.

    • @dex624
      @dex624 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      As a finance graduate, I wish I just watched this video and majored in philosophy or something 😂

  • @app2bs
    @app2bs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thanks! Your channel is very interesting and informative.

  • @hungcapitalll
    @hungcapitalll 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wendover, Ive been a several year follower of ur work. I would wager that THIS is one of your most beneficial videos to the average Joe regarding understanding money distribution. It's a video people don't realize they need to watch

  • @metballetjes
    @metballetjes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    In Europe we have Sepa (single european payment area). Transfering funds between different member countries is as easy as entering the account number. It also works for foreign currencies without much fees. (Switzerland for example is a member but is not part of the EU) I think that is one of the main reasons why companies like wise and revolut are not very popular here. Our country to country banking works very well actually.

    • @m0llux
      @m0llux ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well, it still takes two days to wire money from one account to another. At least in Germany.
      Also, you can't send or receive money on weekends and holidays.
      Compared to, say, PayPal, it still very much stick back in time. There are Real-time-Transactions, but they usually cost a fee.

    • @marco.castiglia
      @marco.castiglia 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Revolut is getting famous bro

    • @MCSROkickz
      @MCSROkickz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Everyone in Romania uses revolut

    • @RR-et6zp
      @RR-et6zp 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MCSROkickz they dont have the euro

  • @mehmedmaloparic
    @mehmedmaloparic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Possibly your best work to date. This is excellent! Explained gradually by introducing a system, presenting a problem then explaining the solution is a phenomenal way to teach.

  • @herdek550
    @herdek550 2 ปีที่แล้ว +293

    It would be nice if you also talked about SEPA payment. It's international payment system like SWIFT, but only within EU. Very cheap for the end user, it costs between $0 and $10 depending on your bank policy. But every year more and more banks provide this service for free.
    Edit:
    By recent EU regulation, banks are not allowed to charge more than they charge for demestic money transfer. So basically 99% of banks in EU charge less than $0.2 per transfer, most of them charge nothing.

    • @TechCellfish
      @TechCellfish 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Came here to state this too. SEPA has revolutionized money transfers in the EU and EEA.

    • @jeromep5294
      @jeromep5294 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      actually SEPA transactions, by law, cannot cost more than a national transaction

    • @pettahify
      @pettahify 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There are of course competing systems, but if he would mention one more, then why not two more, or maybe three?
      You get my point

    • @vurpo7080
      @vurpo7080 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@pettahify SEPA is the system that is used by all banks within the Eurozone, so it's not really just a competing system, it's the _default_ system that everyone who uses a bank in the Eurozone uses.

    • @raylopez99
      @raylopez99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I deal with EU banks all the time and they are a pain in the ass. Bank of America charges me nothing for outbound wires since I'm a preferred customer but with EU banks, despite wiring over 100k a year to and from them, charge me a 27 Euro transfer fee. EU banks are evil. Terrible. Actually all of the EU is great for tourism and if you are an exporter, but the people get reamed. I recall once reading the poorest state in the USA (Mississippi) makes more money per person than the average Englishman. As for culture, that's a different story, but I'm talking money.

  • @setbac
    @setbac 2 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    5:17 Interestingly In March 2020 the Federal Reserve set the reserve requirement to 0% in response to a liquidity crunch caused by COVID. It is believed that banks would be able to meet any withdrawals by borrowing money collateralized through high quality assets if necessary.

    • @arthurclery5731
      @arthurclery5731 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      That seems like a bad idea

    • @setbac
      @setbac 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@arthurclery5731 I like the phrasing from the video with people "ending up happier than when they started". If there is sufficient trust in the system and it largely results in a net positive material gain it might not be such a bad idea. Banks at least having access to lines of credit to do normal day to day operations is another one of these abstractions discussed in the video that increases the velocity of money.

    • @disser3849
      @disser3849 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@arthurclery5731 the reason its not a bad idea is that the system is filled with reserves, hence a bank can get required reserves at anytime easily (hence the name ”ample reserve regime). This is how the Fed has dropped federal funds rate to zero (now they are increasing it through deposit interest at the Fed).

    • @SkiDaBird
      @SkiDaBird 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@arthurclery5731 It’s actually very low risk. If the bank I work at needs more liquid funds, we borrow against our own assets to get those funds. In our case, it’s our mortgage portfolio we use as collateral, the exact same way you use the a house or car as collateral for a personal loan. As long as we make more money on our loan portfolio than we are paying in interest, it can even be profitable. Obviously the underlying asset needs to have value, but as long as it does, there is almost no risk to the FI or the lender.

    • @cracknigr6065
      @cracknigr6065 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@SkiDaBird "Obviously the underlying asset needs to have value, but as long as it does, there is almost no risk to the FI or the lender."
      That's a pretty big IF.
      So from 22020 on when the housing market crashes it's not even only the private banks that handed out money for overvalued property anymore that feel the hit, but around 2 corners then also the reserve banks will feel the hit because they indirectly also handed out money for overvalued property. Or am I missing something here?

  • @hpmv
    @hpmv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The math around 4:00 was wrong... there was still 100k in the end, 8100 * 9 + 15600 + 11500 = 100000. Or if everyone has withdrawn, the bank now has 1500 and the total is 9100 * 9 + 16600 + 1500 = 100000.
    The system did not create money in *this particular scenario*.

  • @italnsd
    @italnsd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    The math in the example does not make sense, because the amount of credits needs to be counted in the same way in both the initial and final situations. At the beginning the total is computed by summing the credits held directly by the farmers, which are 9,000*10=90,000, with those held by the bank, which are 10,000 (all owned by the farmers) for a total of 90,000+10,000=100,000 credits. At the end there are 9 farmers, each of which holds directly 8,100 credits and one farmer (the one who sold the irrigation equipment) who holds directly 8,100+7,500=15,600 credits, for a total of 8,100*9+15600=88,500 credits held directly by the farmers. The bank holds 11,500 credits (10,000 of which are owned by the farmers). Hence the total number of credits, computed the same way as before by summing the credits held by the farmers and those held by the bank, is 88,500+11,500=100,000 which is the same number of credit as in the beginning. There are no extra 10,000 credit as claimed in the video, which are only the result of the trick of counting twice the amount of money the farmers have in the bank (and of doing it only in the final situation, why?). Listening to the careful wording used, it does not seem to be an oversight, but in that case glossing nonchalantly over what justifies such double accounting, which is the basis of the whole concept of "money creation", does not help at all as it makes the example look very deceptive.

    • @jonasson27
      @jonasson27 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes this was very weird. It's only before the watermelon farmer pays back the loan that this 'created money' exists.

    • @marcorovinelli5841
      @marcorovinelli5841 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I was surprised to see this comment so far down. In a closed system money cannot be created or destroyed, I'm surprised more people do not realize.

    • @ayushranjan9057
      @ayushranjan9057 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Yes you're right.
      We can see it follows:-
      Step 1: There are 10 individuals in a system each holding a 10,000 credits each. Which means 10*10,000 =1,00,000
      Step 2: There is a bank in which each one of the 10 individual deposited 1000 credit each.
      Step 3: Now the bank hold 10,000(since, 10*1000).
      Step 4: A watermelon farmer needs credit for purchasing the irrigation system, the bank gives him 7,500 credits and farmer have to pay 9,000 credits.
      Step 5 : He purchased the irrigation system from one of the 10 individual, so he give 7500 credit to one of the individual. So, one of the individual holds 9000(after giving 1000 to bank) + 7500 = 16500.
      Step 6: The watermelon farmer now grows 9000 watermelon each holding 1 credit.
      Step 7: He sell the 900 watermelon to each one of the 10 individual (900*10 = 9000).
      Step 8 : Now 9 individual holds 8100 bcoz 9000-900=8100 and one individual holds 16500 -900 = 15600(he is the one who sell his irrigation equipment).
      Step 10: Watermelon farmer goes to bank and pay the 9000 loan he get from the bank . Now, he have money in hand 9000(after selling the watermelon) - 9000(loan from bank) = 0. He doesn't hold any money right now.
      Final calculation : Bank have 2500( after giving 7500 loan to watermelon farmer), bank gets 9000 loan repayment from the watermelon farmer.
      Now Bank have money= 9000+2500=11500
      Individuals have money= (8100*9=72900) + last individual who sell the irrigation equipment (15600) = 88500.
      So, 11500 + 88500 = 100000.
      So, u are right he have double counted the money at last.😊😊😊

    • @thatajml
      @thatajml หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Damn, I was bewildered and self doubting my basics in economics, I knew that he had an accounting error, but was persuaded to continue watching by the fact that such a big YT channel wouldn’t make any mistakes! lol

    • @liveIama
      @liveIama 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Nah the video is correct, he counted the money that's in the bank as also being money that is from the farmers. The calculation would be
      9,100 x 9 = 81,900 this is the 9 farmers
      9,100 + 7,500 = 16,600 this is the farmer who was paid
      2,500 + 9000 = 11,500 this is the bank
      So it would be 81,900 + 16,600 + 11,500 = 110,000
      The money was created because it exists as both the banks and the farmers, like the blender example from the video.

  • @TikkaQrow
    @TikkaQrow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    10:01 can we take a moment and appreciate the rotoscope overlay of a regular door that's been drawn over with a bank vault graphic?
    Filming the scene, developing the film, drawing over each frame, making new negatives, cutting, splicing, etc.
    That probably took literal weeks for that little effect.

    • @jekizer
      @jekizer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Buster Keaton was a master filmmaker. Check out Every Frame A Painting's video on him.

    • @DavidCiani
      @DavidCiani 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      And Sam likely got it for practically nothing on StoryBlocks.

    • @jekizer
      @jekizer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DavidCiani Nah, it's old enough to be public domain.

  • @Rizhiy13
    @Rizhiy13 2 ปีที่แล้ว +289

    I would say the final conclusion is too strict. The global banking system is quite resilient and if someone does make a mistake, there is usually a way to fix it. Otherwise, any bank no matter how small would be able to crash the entire system. Also, consider that creation and destruction are linked, but if I burn a dollar bill nothing much actually happens, therefore a few extra dollars here and there probably also won't create much of a problem.

    • @jonathanodude6660
      @jonathanodude6660 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      burning a dollar bill is illagal in most countries. the value that your dollar holds is still held by the bank that issued it, but it cant be redeemed anymore. youve essentially removed money from the economy.

    • @Grizabeebles
      @Grizabeebles 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Where the usefulness of money as an approximation for value starts to fail is in the energy sector. According to the unbreakable physical laws of the universe, energy cannot be created or destroyed. Money is created all the time.
      This means that if global energy production ever peaks, energy will only ever get more expensive. And since energy is used at every step of every physical and biological process on the planet, this creates a runaway feedback loop as the rising cost of energy makes everything cost more dollars, which forces stagflation.
      Eventually, human civilization needs to adopt a currency based on joules of energy or we're headed for mass extinction based on our accounting practices alone.

    • @LameMoviesInc
      @LameMoviesInc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      @@Grizabeebles There's a few key things you miss with that assessment.
      1. The amount of energy in the universe is nearly infinite. Especially when compared to the quantity needed by humanity.
      2. Not all energy is usable for humanity given current technology or its location. Sound energy emanating from a distant star is completely impractical for conversion into starches stored in my pantry.
      3. Money represents the accepted value of certain types of energy at a given moment. Electrical energy is quite valuable today but 200 years ago, holds nearly zero value.
      4. Sometimes value is found in the removal of excess energy at a given location. Ie, heat energy in your home during peak summer months. "Expending" electrical energy to move the heat via fans and compressors IS valuable.

    • @Grizabeebles
      @Grizabeebles 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@LameMoviesInc -- I take it you don't see how #2 cancels out your other 3 points. All energy useable by human civilization is a fixed and finite quantity unless we use some of that energy to find and tap new sources. That's just restating the first two laws of thermodynamics.
      Do you know what the third law of thermodynamics is? An Absolute Zero temperature exists. In other words:
      *PHYSICS DOESN'T RUN ON CREDIT.*
      All money created through fractional reserve banking is created as debt.
      Can you see the mismatch yet?

    • @overwrite_oversweet
      @overwrite_oversweet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Grizabeebles if we haven't broken the energy-GDP nexus by then it will be "stag" either way, I don't see why the "flation" part will matter much.

  • @scharpmeister
    @scharpmeister 2 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    You have officially reached a new order of magnitude in terms of the animation complexity, great video

  • @osmmanipadmehum
    @osmmanipadmehum 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Nice,
    I would like to see someone attempt a video on how exactly the currency exchange rate of some currency is calculated by tracing the number all the way to who decides or calculates it, and how and why.

    • @XaurielZ
      @XaurielZ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Currency exchange rates for floating currencies (most modern currencies) are market-derived. They're based on what buyers and sellers are willing to pay for them on currency exchanges, similar to stocks and other financial instruments. The exchange rate that your bank or Paypal or whatever gives you is ultimately derived from whatever price those currencies are trading for on exchanges that day.

    • @fbrtnrsthf
      @fbrtnrsthf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@XaurielZthere are no currency exchanges in the way there are stock exchanges…
      FX is mostly done OTC although many platforms exists where you can get multiple quotes (eg. 360T)

    • @XaurielZ
      @XaurielZ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@fbrtnrsthf my mistake. However, the essential principle is the same.

    • @tr0llpatr0l86
      @tr0llpatr0l86 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      that would be the most important video in human history

    • @tr0llpatr0l86
      @tr0llpatr0l86 ปีที่แล้ว

      i think there are some person above who control the price to hold down majority poor

  • @BrooklynHarlow21
    @BrooklynHarlow21 หลายเดือนก่อน +73

    The problem we have is because Most people always taught that " you only need a good job to become rich " . These billionaires are operating on a whole other playbook that many don't even know exists.

    • @JeffJason-
      @JeffJason- หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Money invested is far better than money saved , when you invest it gives you the opportunity to increase your financial worth.

    • @TheoXavier-5
      @TheoXavier-5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It is remarkable how much long term
      advantage people like us have gotten by trying to be consistently not stupid,
      instead of trying to be very intelligent.

    • @ArdenAspen35
      @ArdenAspen35 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The wisest thing that should be on everyone mind currently should be to invest in different streams of income that doesn't depend on government paycheck, especially with the current economic crisis around the world.

    • @JordanJesse857
      @JordanJesse857 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Many individuals report success in investing in stocks,fx, yet I continue to struggle.Can somebody help me out or advise me on what to do?

    • @AnnEve-mi5zv
      @AnnEve-mi5zv หลายเดือนก่อน

      Even with the right technique and assets some investors would still make more than others. As an investor, you should've known that by now that nothing beats experience and that's final. Personally I had to reach out to a stock expert for guidance which is how I was able to grow my account close to $35k, withdraw my profit right before the correction and now I'm buying again.

  • @nancycowell-miller4321
    @nancycowell-miller4321 2 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    Very interesting video!
    I was a little bummed that you jumped directly from ERMA to Electronic ACH. But you did, at least, quickly skim over MICR (Magnetic Ink Character Recognotion - also a BofA contribution). And that was my era!
    I started my illustrious (cough-cough) career as a Proof Machine Operator reading, keying, and encoding checks with little computer-number dollar amouts on the lower right corner of each check. (Yep! That was me!)
    Dreadfully boring, repetitive job - but it was Entry Level, so I was able to get my foot in the door...

    • @disser3849
      @disser3849 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Oh man hats off to you. It was extremely important work. Gotta admit it feels extremely lucky to live today where most of it is digital.

    • @abhimalekajay2722
      @abhimalekajay2722 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I was also help by clearing the irts created by check and any error deposits created in ATMs by bank of america,very difficult job as we.shiuld check for fraud,clients etc

  • @Tential1
    @Tential1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +393

    Hopefully, this helps people understand the valuable role banks play. Banks "create" wealth as long as the loans are good. If they are bad, it destroys wealth just as fast.

    • @ggddeeff
      @ggddeeff 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Banks are currently implementing a multigenerational debt plan which has pretty much already enslaved most of humanity. Thinking the banks are our friends is like worshiping your own chains.

    • @bboyjunyor
      @bboyjunyor 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Would be great if we actually cared about the good of the people.. as politicians.. and eliminated lobbying!!!, sent corrupt jerks to jail (nancy the fossil nd the one eyed jerk (plus many others) for insider trading.. all presidents and high level politicians plus military and pharma complex execs for genocide.. banks and insurance companies execs for the cryses along history.. etc)

    • @TrollerzTV
      @TrollerzTV 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      Ahhh 2008, classic

    • @tryep5567
      @tryep5567 2 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      Unless the bank is big enough. Then it can be as reckless as it wants to be and the government will just bail it out.

    • @cageybee7221
      @cageybee7221 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tryep5567 it still destroyed wealth, it just didn't take the bank with it because the government came in with emergency loans.

  • @RobbbbC
    @RobbbbC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +289

    This is amazing! This is the best description of how money works that I have ever seen.

    • @imveryangryitsnotbutter
      @imveryangryitsnotbutter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The intro explaining the invention of money inspired me to look up the old Schoolhouse Rock short "Trade and Barter".
      Roughly 8 seconds in, I regretted my decision.

    • @moritzzoellner
      @moritzzoellner 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You should check out ColdFusion. His „who controls our money“ video is equally interesting and fairly easy to understand

  • @thunderfire741
    @thunderfire741 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is one the best explanations on how transactional banking works, it oversimplifies a bit but captures most of the implications of each process,

  • @lucashfaria98
    @lucashfaria98 2 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    This is (once again) such a great video by Sam. Also, as a temporary expat, Wise is a lifesaver.

  • @Thebreakdownshow1
    @Thebreakdownshow1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +161

    Maybe we should all start burying our money under the apple tree. That's where I park all my millions of Adsense money.

    • @arjunmohanakrishnan7365
      @arjunmohanakrishnan7365 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      *Laughs on the sand*

    • @Thebreakdownshow1
      @Thebreakdownshow1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@arjunmohanakrishnan7365 this is not a laughing matter lol this is more secure than banking with chase or JP Morgan. As taught by the 2008 crash lol

    • @yess6783
      @yess6783 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What’s your address and do you have a shovel?

    • @richteffekt
      @richteffekt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thank you for at least removing some cash from the system; it seems however this is not enough to stop inflation from happening. So maybe get digging support a local pear farmer.

    • @idrismahmood6532
      @idrismahmood6532 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Or just buy btc

  • @NaNdgate
    @NaNdgate 2 ปีที่แล้ว +156

    Great video but it starts with one of the most pernicious myths in economics. The "multi-way trade" myth of barter does not actually represent the historical origin of money. As a system of exchange, barter is a degenerate form of currency that only forms in communities that have already had some exposure to currency (but no longer do, for whatever reason). Pre-currency exchange was always done on debt. In pre-currency communities, if I have apples and you will have oranges, I just give them to you on loan and expect something of relatively equivalent value later; maybe oranges, maybe a service, maybe we forget about it but real life does not operate in clean thought experiments. Currency forms out of this arrangement when we start to quantify the value of things being borrowed (using another commodity good like oxen or grain as a standard unit of measurement, but this good rarely actually changes hands). Once we all start using the same unit of measurement and passing around IOUs (using my IOU from the orange guy to pay for pears), then we have currency.
    Keynes tried to bust this myth but quieted down when it made him unpopular. Even Adam Smith who popularized the myth of barter would eventually concede that it had no historical basis.
    Source: Debt by David Graeber

    • @Weaver271
      @Weaver271 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Why isn't the comment at the top?? Also, for more info loop up L. Randall Wray's lectures on the origin of money.

    • @archerelms
      @archerelms 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      I don't think Sam was trying to claim this was the real origin or predecessor of currency, but you make an excellent point that maybe we shouldn't perpetuate the myth. I assume the myth started for the same reason Sam used it: it's a simple explanation that makes sense to everyone, even if it's not entirely accurate

    • @AileTheAlien
      @AileTheAlien 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@archerelms We absolutely shouldn't perpetuate the myth; It devalues other forms of exchange as barbaric, and it's not even needed for the video at hand! :)

    • @eusebiusthunked5259
      @eusebiusthunked5259 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@AileTheAlien It's a bit trite to simply claim that its not needed, having not attempted a simpler alternative explanation without introducing the basic transaction without barter.
      Without barter, which simply assumes a one-to-one basic assumption of commodity value, you get into far more complexity, requiring explanations of psycho-social dynamics, concepts of honor and social duty or obligation which varies based on social status, etc. None of this is remotely as simple as "an apple is worth roughly one piece of fruit" regardless of who wants the apple, who is the current chieftan, who is my brother, who is the guest, etc.

    • @swizzysaf9914
      @swizzysaf9914 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He does allude to this when he labels the clay balls as "credits", which is what they are. Could probably be clearer though

  • @Tinil0
    @Tinil0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +159

    There is a very small part of this that I feel needs to be heard and understood by everyone who ever wants to understand anything about economics, and it helps dispel a very simple and overwhelming misconception people have about life as a whole:
    Your blender example was great. You have 1 blender but you have 2 blenders worth of value. This is actually true with a LOT of things, and it points to the concept that resources are NOT a zero sum game. So many "individualists" start buying into terrible economic and geopolitical theories because they simply make the mistake that because resources are limited, if you benefit then someone else does without, and if someone else benefits then you must, in some way, be losing out on something whether you care about that something or not. While it is true about SOME things, there is so much more of life that it simply isn't.

    • @prpr8904
      @prpr8904 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Yes, all great human achievement is based on coorporations

    • @ajrobbins368
      @ajrobbins368 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Criminally underrated comment

    • @andrasbiro3007
      @andrasbiro3007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@prpr8904
      Did you mean "cooperation"?

    • @ajrobbins368
      @ajrobbins368 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      If economics were a zero-sum game, quality of life would only ever decrease as global population grows by the billions.
      But that is simply not what has happened over the last hundred years. Overall human suffering has trended downward (and prosperity trended upward) for years.

    • @teosandev6116
      @teosandev6116 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The blender would suffer double wear and tear and would consume twice the electricity given doubled usage. No free puree for lunch for ya, folks.

  • @tatyanapanova1869
    @tatyanapanova1869 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello, I'm Brazilian and I work with the financial market. I follow you here on TH-cam, because it's always good to acquire new knowledge.

  • @B4CK4REVENGE
    @B4CK4REVENGE ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is by far the most educational video on banking I’ve ever seen and it’s blowing my mind. Fantastic work!

  • @MrTheBigNoze
    @MrTheBigNoze 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Probably the best Wendover video to date. Excellent and easy to understand explanation of the financial system and how money is moved and value created. Awesome work!

  • @masterimbecile
    @masterimbecile 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    0:59 “… then it all starts to get just a little bit …”
    Me: “…bananas?”
    “… complicated.”
    Me: “damn.”

  • @RFalhar
    @RFalhar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I would say the issue is less about the inherent complexity of moving money. And more about banks using outdated systems and not willing to invest in innovation unless absolutely necessary. It is common knowledge in IT world that many banks still run on mainframes that are 30+ years old and that they are unwilling to migrate to newer systems. Systems which would provide end-users better experience.

    • @richmelchr
      @richmelchr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      it’s not just that, IBM also has billions invested in mainframe tech and has an incentive to lobby for regulations to keep their technology mandatory. plus all the coders still programming in old languages

    • @imveryangryitsnotbutter
      @imveryangryitsnotbutter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@richmelchr "Open the doors for technological innovation, IBM."
      "I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that."

    • @James-gm9cs
      @James-gm9cs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I've heard that for some banks it would cost billions to do. Imagine the complexity of transitioning from the old systems to the new one seemlessly and without any errors. A lot of them aren't willing to risk it with so much money and customers involved.

    • @ma-moomoo
      @ma-moomoo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They do want to use modern tech. But it’s really hard, expensive, and risky to migrate a core banking system to a new one. Not to mention the cost of developing a completely new one. You do not want to take a bank offline or have mistakes in your financial data, so a lot is at stake. At many banks it is hard to justify the business case for modernising all at once, so I think they just stick with a stalemate of keeping and maintaining the mainframe systems but deal with the complexities of innovating on top of that. In the long term they tend to run into issues with offering more advanced products and systems. So yeah, it’s a bit broken. Not for bad intentions but because, well, shit’s complex.

    • @xbmcme9768
      @xbmcme9768 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      True, but I've also learned that some of these mainframes use completely different chips from what we are familiar with. The whole systems down the chip level are engineered to meet specific criteria to avoid glitches and odd bugs. When dealing with money, the machines have to be perfect. If anyone has coded before, they know just how difficult it is to create 100% bug free software. Mainframes help avoid this through their custom hardware.

  • @sebastianspiegler5801
    @sebastianspiegler5801 2 ปีที่แล้ว +119

    Comes down to the question, where else should I put money besides the financial market? We have a 13% RPI rate so cash is tough

    • @liambracey6708
      @liambracey6708 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yep great question and that’s always the one - where would you rather be if you have an option. Personally I’m always invested aside from a small emergency fund. Financial-market for me seem the only way forward with my long time horizon (accrued over $200k in gains since 2020 )but if you don’t have that fortune of time it’s a tough market out there almost nowhere feels safe!

    • @richardsoncuthel810
      @richardsoncuthel810 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Emotion is the biggest enemy of investors. Current prices are the strongest indicator of future returns, buying into a market cap weighted global index fund consistently over decades is the most proven strategy. Overthinking things is unlikely to help

    • @taylorcoggan2054
      @taylorcoggan2054 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@liambracey6708 You inspire me, I've only just started to invest in stocks over the last couple of months. I've been doing plenty of research. In fact I'm really enjoying the aspect of learning and researching. $200k is a milestone, how did you achieve that? whats your strategy

    • @liambracey6708
      @liambracey6708 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@taylorcoggan2054 I began with a fiduciary portfolio-advisor by name Katherine Duffy Burke , She’s sec verified and an ISDA member . Her approach is transparent allowing total ownership and control over my portfolio and fees are very reasonable in comparison with my ROI.

    • @taylorcoggan2054
      @taylorcoggan2054 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@liambracey6708 Katherine really seem to know her stuff. I found her reachout-page after looking her up using her fullname , read through her resume, educational background, qualifications and it was really impressive. She is a fiduciary who will act in my best interest. So, I booked a session with her

  • @damianbailey6484
    @damianbailey6484 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was an amazing video. I'm not sure which I'm more impressed with: 1) explaining a topic I thought I knew but didn't 2) that the fruit trading video was made for this topic or 3) that someone found footage of that exact fruit trading scenario. Stellar job!

  • @catsupchutney
    @catsupchutney 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    This is the first video explaining Fractional Reserve that I have seen which is not written from the perspective of a Libertarian Gold Bug. For contrast, see "Money as Debt" (which is a fun view). Thank you!

    • @faikcem1
      @faikcem1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It is fascinating to see banking being shown as is, and not automatically demonized. I do believe most of banking started for the greater good, but somewhere something went wrong

    • @SineN0mine3
      @SineN0mine3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@faikcem1 It was around about the moment that bankers realised that everyone else's ignorance was the only thing standing between them and limitless profits...

  • @adrianc.6891
    @adrianc.6891 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    You say that SWIFT members can fulfill international transactions without actually moving money (15:35) . This isn't completely true. They may not have to move money immediately but they have to move money at some point when they rebalance their Nostro-vostro accounts. It's similar to your earlier example of moving gold across the basement of the correspondent bank (9:14). The more one way the flow of money the more often the rebalance has to happen. The smaller the size of the Nostro/Vostro account the more often the rebalance has to happen. Physical money has to move at some point.

  • @bangscutter
    @bangscutter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    I've always thought that value was added to the system through primary production. We dig up minerals from the ground and the sun making crops grow, and these add money into the system.

    • @stiffori
      @stiffori 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      lol, no, primary production is one of the least value adding activity

    • @genentropy
      @genentropy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      It's part of it. Primary production, refinement, and other forms of "value adding" are the true ultimate source of "value", but you need debt creation to allow that value to be captured in the form of exchangeable money.

    • @navinvent
      @navinvent 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      In net it generates most value, but to exchange them between vendors you need tokens, and the fractional system is what generates the tokens.

    • @zunuf
      @zunuf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Value is purely what people decide it is.
      I could put just as much paint, and canvas, and time into a painting as the "Starry Night" painting, but people will probably decide my painting is worth far less.
      Even if I put in far more time and materials, if it's ugly it won't have any value.
      (It could have sentimental value to me of course, but that's different.)
      To use your example, if some new plant or metal were discovered, but no use for it was found, and people didn't even like to look at it, there'd be no way for it to add value to the system.
      In reality, very few things don't have some value. And they can be transformed to have more value. A piece of metal can turn into a car part, which then turns into a car and it's a lot more useful than just raw metal.
      Garbage is one of the few things where demand is dramatically lower than supply.

    • @VineFynn
      @VineFynn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The value itself is not money. Money only represents the value.

  • @mystycfyremaster2299
    @mystycfyremaster2299 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fantastic video. Did a great job of explaining money and the way it works, and your examples and metaphors are on point.

  • @LucaWatts
    @LucaWatts 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, super helpful, interesting and explanatory. I’m also loving the longer form!

  • @jotdog9357
    @jotdog9357 2 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    Another way to think of the fractional reserve system is keeping the incoming and outgoing funds separate. In Australia, for example, the capital requirements are 12.5% of highly liquid assets. So in other words, for every $1 in deposits the bank receives it can then lend out $8.
    It's this mechanism that makes the banks asset books to market cap ratios look so crazy (often assets are 8-10+ times their market caps) - most of these are loans repayable to the bank, so the majority of this asset book is principal the bank has already lost (via loaning to customers) and needs to recoup just to break even.

    • @DroneStrike1776
      @DroneStrike1776 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      In America, banks are only required to hold 10%. If you deposit $100, they only need to keep $10 in their vault and lend out $90. If your Joe Biden, you get 10% because you're the big guy, own $500,000 in taxes, and print money

    • @pikasnoop6552
      @pikasnoop6552 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This comment triggered a thought in me and it's very weird. If you deposit 1$ cash into a bank under those requirements, the bank could either lend out 7$ into someone's account or $0,875 in cash.

    • @fusion10sg
      @fusion10sg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bro I feel so dumb reading this.

    • @fusion10sg
      @fusion10sg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's not your fault though, I just need to educate myself

    • @woodneel
      @woodneel 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ... so are you saying that the banks and the fat cats therewithin are actually starving ferals just like the rest of us, but they just have a lot more imaginary/potential catnip that we owe them?

  • @yakkalaviswa1
    @yakkalaviswa1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Love this video. Sam actually nailed some massive concepts in such a simple way that explains both the complexity and vitality of the modern banking system

  • @Toledoblade326
    @Toledoblade326 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    This is insanely complicated and well made, amazing job

  • @Palmerater
    @Palmerater ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hands down one of the best channels on this site

  • @harkamal77
    @harkamal77 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Edit: If the bank has 11.5k the people only have 88.5k. You said the people have 98.5k so in that scenario the bank actually only has 1.5k, the rest other people withdrew. If they bank physically has 11.5k the people physically have 88.5k and the farmer still has 0 so no money is created in your scenario. You counted the people's 10k as the peoples and the banks when in fact the bank physically has the money so the people cannot.
    In your scenario if everyone decides to withdraw at the same time they all have 98.5k collectively and the bank 1.5k equaling 100k
    So no money is ever created physically, and even theoretically no money is created because the people are giving the banks their money with the promise they can have it back later
    If the banks lend out someone's money from a savings account and they know they will be paid back before the customer is able withdraw their is no money created.
    If a customer deposits money just for safekeeping and not to earn interest and the banks lend out said money, then that customer was robbed and the banks are hoping they can get back the money before the customer decides to withdraw.
    Why it works is because its also a pyramid scheme. Even if the customer decides he wants his money now and the bank lent it to someone else the bank can just take another customers depsoit to pay back the original customer and keep doing this. Unlike a pyramid scheme it doesnt break down after a while because the bank keeps getting the money back over time, or earn interest profit from other paid back loans to offset loans not being paid which were expected to be.
    I figured out the error after typing up that whole thing below. rip ;(
    It was just me breaking down the scenario and ending up with 100k and trying to figure out if i was wrong.
    4:00 I had to go through the math and the scenario multiple times and im not sure how you got that answer. The people start with 100k, the farmer 0 and the bank 0.
    The people give 10k to the bank, the bank gives 7.5k to the farmer. 90k people, 7.5k farmer, 2.5k bank.
    97.5k people after 1 person is paid for the system by farmer. 97.5k people, 0 farmer, 2.5k bank.
    The people give farmer 9k for goods and farmer pays 9k to bank. Now farmer has 0. Bank 11.5k. and the people have 88.5k
    So at the end its still 100k in the system. the people technically have 100k before interest. and the bank has 1.5k profit from the loan which it will use to pay interest and keep some profit.
    The farmer did benefit but had to output 9k worth of goods/labor to obtain a good which costs 7.5k so the farmer was in a win-lose situation, even if the loan leads to more income he still had to output 1.5k in interest to the bank. his other 7.5k output went back to the bank as principal and no one profits on that. the only profit is the 1.5k the bank has which is also a small profit for people due to interest earned.
    So the bank and people who deposited win and the person taking the loan losing technically even if it is a merger loss compared to the profit he will be able to produce from the loan.
    I believe when calculating u must have accidentally added 10k to the people's total figure. If i am wrong please someone correct me, i am prepared to have my mind blown because i cannot figure out if this is just a miscalculation or something in my thinking is wrong which i went over many times

  • @AmoghA
    @AmoghA 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    This video hits all the points almost perfectly: Coincidence of Wants, Fractional Reserve Banking, Cheques (Checks in US), Swift payment orders. Now, more than ever, money has become as virtual as one can imagine, yet still having the same purpose: buying and selling stuff. Best videk yet!

  • @mikemartin6748
    @mikemartin6748 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    At 6:38, I learned that 1975 was actually between 1871 and 1879.

  • @cauhxmilloy7670
    @cauhxmilloy7670 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Great video. I really enjoyed the fruit closed system demonstration in the beginning. However, it can certainly be argued that the claim that the bank makes the net increased money, at 4:30, is incorrect.
    Instead, it seems that no money is in fact created. The $10k extra came from double counting (bad accounting). It is said, at 3:59, that the 10 individuals have $98.5k. But $10k of that is in the bank. At 4:02, it is said that the bank has $11.5k. But, again, $10k of it belongs to the 10 individuals. Both the 10 individuals and the bank can't simultaneously claim ownership -- thus double counted. If you allowed for it, most of the demonstration is pointless and you can say that it's fair to double count at the moment they put their money into the bank at the start.
    This of course wasn't easy to see, like many accounting tricks, and the whole exchange was made harder to follow by omitting the tracking of a few non-liquid / less liquid items, namely a $7500 irrigation system and $9000 worth of watermelons. If those are taken into account, it does bring up an interesting point about how creation of new goods (which have higher value than the goods that went into them) generates more overall -- between $1500 and $9000, depending on if it is said that the irrigation system is consumed or not in the process of growing the watermelons.
    Arguably the true value of the bank is in wealth consolidation to facilitate easier loans. Without the bank, the equivalent set of steps to get the same balances and 🍉 would is much more weird to each investor. Something like "chip in $750 to help buy an irrigation system for this other farmer, and you'll later get $900 in watermelons." Putting your money into the bank, and pretending that you can access it whenever you want, sure does sound nicer (although you have to pay $900 for the watermelons).

    • @michaelmadsen1222
      @michaelmadsen1222 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Ya, the math is wrong. Total gross financial assets (not considering liabilities) was increased when deposits were made, but net assets (and money) remained the same. Wealth is created when the bank, that has now created profit of $1,500 from interest on the loan, assigns a monetary value to the business. It might offer one of the farmers 10% of the business for $1,000, thereby assigning a value of the total business at $10,000. That $9,000 is wealth creation. This is how people super get rich. They started businesses that make profits (or the hope of making future profits) and people pay to own a part of that business. The person who sold the farmer equipment also has a valuable business increasing her wealth as well.

    • @FlameRat_YehLon
      @FlameRat_YehLon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My guess is that's just describing the buying power. The same money can simutanously be used by the bank to give loan, and by the depositors to wire to someone else. Basically that means the total amount of money is more than the total amount of value, and money in that sense is no longer representing the value you own, but rather flow of value you can control. And also I think that's why account balance is called balance rather than possesion -- it can deviate from your true possesion value so long as other people trust that you can balance it against the possesion value in a later day.
      And I think money always works like that. It's just that money is not the only medium for trading -- you can just send or receive IOU notes and have everyone sit together to cancel all of them out once a while, and in fact maybe even pay for an exchange facility to get that resolved.

    • @Summer-xu8qu
      @Summer-xu8qu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Brilliant. Some people argued that they melon farmer grew melons so they added money into the system, I wasn't entirely convinced. This answer is the most convincing one

    • @dipendrasingh352
      @dipendrasingh352 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's spot on.

  • @inveniamviam4691
    @inveniamviam4691 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    As an economist, I’m blown away by the quality of your video. This is probably a better explanation given than an hour lecture by a professor.

    • @arcomarco7131
      @arcomarco7131 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The big problem is that an economist didn't spot obvious mistakes here. It's quite terrifying.

  • @MetroAndroid
    @MetroAndroid ปีที่แล้ว +3

    4:05 This is driving me nuts. The value is created when a fruit is grown through a farmer's time and labor. There wasn't a fruit before and now there is. There is no law of conservation of life, life isn't a closed loop, it can just go up exponentially. One fruit equals one credit (or two or three). You already established that the bank creates enough credits to be able to give out for fruit (sort of like a gold standard but for fruit). So naturally, they will always run out of credits in a "closed" system where fruit continues to be produced because the produce adds credit-value to the system.

    • @Originalimoc
      @Originalimoc 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes. No new money, instead the price will drop if more and more watermelon.

  • @fireattack1
    @fireattack1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    The first example is wrong.
    At the end the 10 individuals have 8100*9 + 15600 = 88500, not 98500. Adding bank's 11500, it's still 100,000.
    The author says "they each (9 out of 10, to be exact) have 9100 which 1000 is sitting in the bank", this statement is correct. But, if you want to count them as having 9100 in the calculation (as he did) , the bank no longer actually has 11500, because 10x1000 of the money is these individuals'. He's basically double counting this amount, which gives "10k out of thin air".

    • @joethompson14
      @joethompson14 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I think the other issue is that the toy example did not correctly count the additional watermelons and associated clay balls that were created when they were traded into the market. If a clay ball is tied to one real grown fruit, then additional money was "created" when more fruit was grown.

    • @sconescrewdriverson
      @sconescrewdriverson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pin this.
      This is true, but it actually highlights a different issue. Imagine being an overworked salaryman at Goldman Sachs or Black Rock and you double count on accident.

    • @DustinKingen
      @DustinKingen 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joethompson14 I think the video forgot to mention the transition from asset backed currency (Gold) to fiat currency. The fruit and vegetable banking system is 'backed' by physical production of goods while the modern banking system is backed by faith in the system.

    • @joethompson14
      @joethompson14 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DustinKingen In the initial closed-loop scenario, the only thing possible is asset-backed as that is the thought experiment that was built. All I am pointing out is that not all of the farmer's outputs were measured as a result of the loan.

    • @profwaldone
      @profwaldone 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is the point. Inflation cannot exist if the world doesn't gain value. The world cannot gain value as no new resources are imported into it.
      If supply and demand actually decided the price of things than accessing a new oil well would lower the the price of all the others so the total would remain the same.
      If a shift in culture or tech would create a new market with new resources then the other demands would lower in value to make space for the new one.
      But they don't. Instead they print more money to fill the gap between fictional (as you put it, dubble counted) value and the actual amount of money in the world.
      With as a result that not the value of resources but the value of money goes down. And who exactly has the resources and who has the money?

  • @Pr00ch
    @Pr00ch 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Speaking as financial professional, I must say Sam is just excellent at conceptually presenting the money market in an approachable and easy to understand manner.

    • @Schindlabua
      @Schindlabua 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can I ask you something. Say I deposit 1$ into bank A, in a country that has a fractional reserve requirement of 10%. So now the bank has a money supply of 10$ of which it must keep 1$, and it can lend out 9$ to others. Say bank B is interested in taking a 9$ loan from bank A. That means bank B would now have 9$, which means it can lend out another ... uh... 81$ to debtors.
      We've just turned 1$ into 81$+9$+1$ = 91$ and we could just keep going no? What's keeping the money supply from spiralling out of control?

    • @zanokuhlemabuza3762
      @zanokuhlemabuza3762 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Schindlabua no, the bank has $1 of which it can loan out 90c, the next bank 81c, and the next bank 71,9c (and so forth). If I'm not mistaken it adds up to $10 in the entire system from that initial $1 deposit ($1 / r where r = the reserve ratio).

    • @Schindlabua
      @Schindlabua 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@zanokuhlemabuza3762 Weird, usually people say things like, fractional reserves allow banks to lend out more money than they have etc. But you're saying that's not true for individual banks, but maybe just for the system as a whole?
      I guess the maths checks out, it's a geometric series innit. 1 + 0.9 + 0.9² + 0.9³ + ... = 1/(1-0.9) = 10

    • @uhohhotdog
      @uhohhotdog 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Schindlabua no, they’re wrong.
      Banks don’t loan out money deposits. The money deposits basically act as collateral for them to take out loans from the federal reserve. your money is never lent out. The bank takes loans from the fed.

    • @JLKin277
      @JLKin277 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Schindlabua Deposits with another bank are not considered liquid assets for most reserve requirements. Even ignoring regulatory requirements, you can't really back deposits/loans with deposits because you can't pay them out if someone demands their money.
      Without regulation, I guess they could try, but the result will be either collapse or only counting deposits with ultra-reliable banks where all banks have deposits (one origin of central banking).

  • @jon9103
    @jon9103 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    14:23 "In 1978 congress passes law to limit customer liability. "
    Then why do banks, especially Wells Fargo, still refuse to reverse fraudulent charges?
    No surprise San Francisco bankers break the law.

    • @jonaboy3
      @jonaboy3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      to limit customer liability, not to remove it. Customers are required to exert due diligence which basically no-one does anymore.

    • @jon9103
      @jon9103 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jonaboy3 nonsense, fraud can and does occur where the victim did nothing wrong yet the banks push the burden of proof on the victim which is logical fallacy as you can't prove a negative. It shouldn't be the victims liability for the bank's failure.

  • @sadiqsyed8803
    @sadiqsyed8803 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    At 4:00, Farmer- 0
    Individuals- 9*8100+15,600=88,500
    Bank- 11,500
    This is the money they individually have and it totals to 100,000 , right?, sice they earned intrest through bank and paid intrest themselves while purchasing watermelon and everyone has watermelon which aren't accounted for.
    Why would you count individual money as 9100 each +7,500 for last guy and then again add the bank's whole money rather than intrest earned to it, which I think is wrong since it just counts individual deposits double times?

  • @johnsmith-ol9qj
    @johnsmith-ol9qj 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Also at 5:00 is the fallacy of “money appearing from nowhere” no the money didn’t appear from nowhere just as the blender isn’t doing two blenders worth of work. The blender hasn’t quantum entangled and you and your roommate don’t have two blenders, that one blender is taking all the use of two people which means it’s wearing down Twice as fast, both you and your roommate can’t make smoothies at the same time. Neither can the bank, the fractional reserve system is just fraud and counterfeiting. All those new “dollars” are secured as a “security” which is Monopoly money.

  • @AndyChamberlainMusic
    @AndyChamberlainMusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I highly recommend Hidden Brain's episodes on money, particularly Money 2.0 Emotional Currency
    it challenges this common idea of where money's value comes from in the first place, as in the explanation at the beginning of this video. It was something I never thought to question until I heard the podcast, but its worth a listen

  • @starrycrystals8
    @starrycrystals8 2 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    In my opinion, it’s always good to have more payment options. It would be great to have a good balance between cash, digital (online transactions) and cards and not rely on one too much.

    • @Hideyoshi1991
      @Hideyoshi1991 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I just keep a small amount of cash saved up just in case something goes wrong and I'm not able to get into my account for a bit.

    • @orangeqtym
      @orangeqtym 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@techtutorvideos anything but cash is terrible for privacy, isn't it?

    • @outerspaceisalie
      @outerspaceisalie 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@orangeqtym its a spectrum, i think blockchain tries its best to make tradeoffs of a little of the downsides of each to create a greater net result, but its really hard to make the argument that it is sufficient at that. It is, however, interesting as a notion and it's wonderful that it's being tried, even if it ends up failing (for now or permanently).

    • @chrissmith3587
      @chrissmith3587 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@orangeqtym generally speaking the big advantages of cash is the non existent processing fee,
      the privacy aspect has little advantage to the average person in the west unless you are a tax evader
      The only people who can see all your transactions are your bank (or payment provider, doesn’t work if you use multiple banks) and who your bank trusts to handle your information, if you cannot trust your bank to protect your data why are you trusting them with your life’s savings

  • @blu_pi
    @blu_pi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It's videos like these why I'm always excited when I see a new Wendover productions video in my recommended section.

  • @agustinvenegas5238
    @agustinvenegas5238 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sam this was legitimately awesome, I had an economics class in high school and didn't know anything from what you said, yet I understood everything, cheers to your writers and you for how comprehensive and fun this video on a very slogish dense topic is

  • @erictaylor5462
    @erictaylor5462 ปีที่แล้ว

    In the 1970's my dad's flight instructor took a job flying (In a cargo plane) checks to Los Angeles from the San Francisco Bay Area every night.
    This was a great gig, then the banks started sending checks digitally and they no longer needed to physicals move the checks.
    The flight instructor them removed the radar equipment form his plane, removed all of the electronic equipment from the boxes, then replaced the empty boxes where the radar equipment was suppose to go.
    This gave him a place to put the drugs he was hired to smuggle. An inspector would open the compartments where the radar equipment was suppose to be and see what on the surface looked like radar equipment.
    There was just one problem. The Cartels had worked out a deal with the police where the cops would look the other way for most of the stuff, but they cops still had to catch smugglers from time to time.
    So for those flights selected to be busted the cartels would hire a new pilot for this one time use.
    So the police knew exactly where the drugs were, even though the equipment looked just like a working radar system.
    So the pilot flipped on the cartel to get himself out of trouble with the police, but got himself into trouble with the cartel.
    The last my dad heard, he was hiding out in Alaska. But if my dad knew this, likely the cartel had heard this as well....

  • @revcrussell
    @revcrussell 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    SWIFT is not some miracle. Sending business payments by bank transfer is still a huge pain for small business owners. I have to supply the company name, the bank address, the local branch address, fill out a form in triplicate, and pay way too much for the privilege.

    • @archvizninja5823
      @archvizninja5823 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Check out Bitcoin

    • @beepboop6212
      @beepboop6212 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@archvizninja5823 better, check out monero, it's faster, lower tx fees, and very secure and private
      (note: a bit volatile, around the level of bitcoin)

    • @Gubbz667
      @Gubbz667 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@archvizninja5823 i was just gonna say this lol

    • @Gubbz667
      @Gubbz667 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      bitcoin allows you to transfer funds seamlessly with everyone across the globe with no restrictions

    • @NoRezos
      @NoRezos 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Gubbz667 and then the value will either crash that you have undervalued asset or going up like a bubble that you have overvalued asset

  • @brujua7
    @brujua7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I wish this was a series! Thanks a lot, greatly done

  • @Joshua-c
    @Joshua-c 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I am genuinely amazed by this video and even I learned new things - I used to work in an international bank that prides itself for payments for 6 years.

  • @BobFirth
    @BobFirth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Does “It’s a Wonderful Life” come to mind for anyone? Great explanation, George Bailey would be proud of you Sam.

  • @cliffbarbier4918
    @cliffbarbier4918 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is an amazing history of banking, especially in the USA. I love it!
    10:20 When that check flipped around and I caught a glimpse of the back with all of those endorsements, I knew it was gonna be a long routing!
    FYI, some of your video could use de-interlacing.

  • @theanonymouschicken169
    @theanonymouschicken169 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    6:42 Can’t believe US money supply 1871 to 1975 only had a 2% increase.

    • @Michael-zf1ko
      @Michael-zf1ko 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Then they turned on the money printer in 2020 and have been increasing the supply at an alarming rate.

    • @FreeManFreeThought
      @FreeManFreeThought 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Michael-zf1ko Not at all how that works. They issued billions in bonds, which is NOT the same as "printing money". It increases the money in circulation, which can cause inflationary pressures (as is obvious to anyone), but this is debt (which has it's own issues), not "money printing". To claim such is just foolish.

    • @syxepop
      @syxepop 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FreeManFreeThought - that's usually what happens when people that think like the guy you've replied try to insert IDEOLOGICAL POLITICS (he was talking about the US stimulus checks) into the mix. Problem was the first ones were done under Trump's watch, so it's NOT a matter of ideology or partisan politics.
      What would he had done about it being in Trump's shoes? 🤔🤔🤔

    • @Michael-zf1ko
      @Michael-zf1ko 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@syxepop You are making wild assumptions my guy.

    • @uhohhotdog
      @uhohhotdog 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Michael-zf1ko no. We barely spent anything. We should’ve spent more.

  • @michaelnelson2976
    @michaelnelson2976 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    What an absolutely phenomenal opening metaphor. Gosh, that got right to the heart of everything going on

    • @relatively_random4903
      @relatively_random4903 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I love how it made it obvious that money is just a tool for tracking credit: who did a "favor" to somebody and now has the ability to ask for a favor from someone else in return.

  • @wayneerickson10
    @wayneerickson10 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The Automated Clearing House (ACH) is a private organization driven by contract called the ACH Rules. While the Federal Reserve does participate as an operator and regulator, the ACH network is operated by it's members and governed by an organization called NACHA. When the US Government switched from issuing checks to ACH transactions, it required financial institutions agree to be bound by the ACH rules before their account holders could receive government payments.

  • @FilmSchoold
    @FilmSchoold 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a masters degree (MPA) with an emphasis in economics from an Ivy League school and I will say this is one of the best SIMPLE explanations of the economics of banks. Really, really well done!! Outstanding work! (It is not a complete example but its intuitive for most folks!!)

  • @ganonk79
    @ganonk79 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    2:59 "Free money machine"? What is this money thing he's talking about? I thought we were talking about clay balls??

    • @brianngige9840
      @brianngige9840 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It's been a year, do you get it now?

  • @fiddleriddlediddlediddle
    @fiddleriddlediddlediddle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    When I watch Wendover Productions explain things so concisely it makes me bitter at how bad every other teacher on any other topic is at their job.

    • @rakino4418
      @rakino4418 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You get a good general feel of how things work from these kinds of videos.
      Other teachers have to make sure you retain and can apply information to specific kinds of problems and can prove it (in an exam etc).

    • @jasondashney
      @jasondashney 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I swear to God schools seem like they are trying to make simple concepts difficult. I want to take a finance course many years ago and I'll never forget this passage: "interest represents the savings for consumers from deferring consumption from today to tomorrow via savings". Can you think of a more complicated way to say "if you borrow money to have buy something now instead of saving your pennies first, you'll have to pay more back than you borrowed."
      My six year old can understand the concept of interest, but never if I explained it to her the way the textbook does.

  • @nezzee
    @nezzee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The example of when the money appeared is wrong. Value is not created at the time the loan is handed out. The value is created by the fruit of the farmer's labor (eg, with that loan, it's not till they create more watermelons and bring them into the world did value get created).
    This line of thinking is how we time and time again end up in financial issues because the finance world, value is not created in a vacuum, despite them thinking it is. If the farmer never creates said watermelons and defaults on their loan, that value is gone and realized as a loss (the value only appears on pen and paper, at the time of the loan, not accounting that it's very often not a sure thing). It's how every dozen years or so, banks start handing out garbage loans and then when the loans default, they get a slap on the wrist and crack down until they loosen up and repeat the cycle.
    Financial institutions do assist in value generation, it just doesn't create value.

  • @petergerdes1094
    @petergerdes1094 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    And in what sense can banks "not do that"? Banks are allowed to lend money or take other speculative positions. They may choose not to incur this risk when sending money around the world but they certainly could and the money wouldn't appear from nowhere it would be debited out of their account and they'd have to cover it.

  • @13igPooh
    @13igPooh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Few pointers on the video.
    1) Once you "deposit" money into the bank it is technically/legally a loan to the bank, so the bank owns the money and it is no longer yours. While they have an obligation to pay you the principal plus any interest, as a customer you would rank similar to most other creditors of the bank and not have any special rights in the case of a bankruptcy. This is mainly due to the client money rules that are unique to banks.
    2) On the topic of money creation, it is created when money is lent out by the bank because it did not use the money that it was originally lent when lending it out. I.e. when it lends out money the cash reserves of the bank are not reduced.
    3) The fractional reserve theory is not true. While it is commonly thought to be true, and most of the infrastructure and rules are set up assuming it is true (i.e. rules on capital reserves etc.), in general banks do not behave as this theory presupposes.
    Check out the economists Richard Werner work and his paper on "Can banks individually create money out of nothing? - The theories and the empirical evidence".

  • @donovanstanton5211
    @donovanstanton5211 ปีที่แล้ว

    Didn't see learning about Global banking and better understanding monetary markets on my Sunday todo list but glad that it appeared. THIS VIDEO PROVIDED SO MUCH CLARITY.

  • @thiagopepper
    @thiagopepper 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You should make a video about the brazilian banking system, how they moved money fast enough to beat daily inflation in the 80s, and how they have today an universal, instant digital transfer of money between all banks in the country

    • @3117ism
      @3117ism 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We have similar banking in South Africa. Almost everything is digital. Its funny how 1st World Countries can take a long time to adopted new technology. An example of this would be the high use of fax machines in businesses in Japan to this day. Or the slow inter bank transfers in America. (Which I’ve heard is because they still send cheques of some sort to each other as stated in this video. But I stand to be corrected)

  • @quuaaarrrk8056
    @quuaaarrrk8056 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Let me guess: Planes have something to do with it.

    • @Activemeasures2023
      @Activemeasures2023 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dancing students on the roof.

    • @jmlinden7
      @jmlinden7 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      After 9/11, banks were stuck with millions of untransferred checks because flights were all grounded. This forced the government to allow banks to send a scanned image of paper checks instead of having to send the physical check itself.

  • @West_Anderson
    @West_Anderson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Absolutely love your videos. Always showing just how incredibly complex everything in our modern world truly is and that we have no idea. Can't wait to see what you cover next.

  • @BestChelClips
    @BestChelClips 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a great video, good work Sam! Keep it up brotha

  • @Infinitetrucker
    @Infinitetrucker ปีที่แล้ว +1841

    Managing resources and making good returns is not as easy as it seems, there are a lot of things that aren't well taught in schools. The market crisis gave me my first returns, when people stayed away from hard times I made the most of it..many credits goes to Sir Trevor James Beckerman

    • @Infinitetrucker
      @Infinitetrucker ปีที่แล้ว

      Search his full name

    • @Infinitetrucker
      @Infinitetrucker ปีที่แล้ว

      Trevor James Beckerman

    • @Infinitetrucker
      @Infinitetrucker ปีที่แล้ว

      You will find his webpage

    • @teddy.bisson.411
      @teddy.bisson.411 ปีที่แล้ว

      Trevor’s resume is sophisticated, and shows he was active during the last bear market, I also emailed
      him. Thanks for the info!.

    • @TheBleggh
      @TheBleggh ปีที่แล้ว +28

      How much did you pay for 1.2k bots to thumbs-up this? Jesus Christ...

  • @adamplace1414
    @adamplace1414 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Really really interesting. I was thinking that the excess value created at the beginning came from the outside of the closed loop through the addition of the irrigation system that the loan procured. Which, in a sense it does I suppose, but not in the strict accounting sense that makes the system work.

    • @orangeqtym
      @orangeqtym 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      This is the comment I was looking for! The additional money comes from the nutrients and water that become the fruit. A true closed system wouldn't generate any additional money? Can someone explain this to an old fool?

    • @pettahify
      @pettahify 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Of course it does. And it's when new money doesn't equal new stuff that we get inflating prices. And that's why banks need to be regulated so that they don't give out loans for crazy shit.

    • @elic-c8239
      @elic-c8239 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      You're conflating money with value. You're right, the new /value/ in the system comes from the irrigation system and the extra watermelons. If everything goes right, new money=new value. Otherwise we get inflation. But inflation is a whole other topic just as complicated as this topic, so he skipped over it. Here, we're only talking about the /money/ being created, which did appear the moment the bank made the loan, and only then.

    • @Tim3.14
      @Tim3.14 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@elic-c8239 That's a very helpful distinction (money vs. value), thanks for pointing it out!
      I think that's related to why accounting rules (e.g., GAAP in the U.S.) require businesses to report revenue when it's earned (when they delivered the product or service), not when they're paid.

    • @relatively_random4903
      @relatively_random4903 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Sure, some _value_ came from the outside, but we're counting money here, not value. The point is that there is more _money_ in the system now, when you sum up all the account balances and cash, even though nobody minted any new clay coins.
      The trick is that the bank is "lying" when saying that everyone has 1000 clay coins in their account, when in reality only a fraction of people could cash out. But the "virtual" coins in the accounts really _are_ as good as the real thing, as long as everybody believes that not everybody will want to cash out at the same time. So if you trust the account balances, which basically everybody does, there literally is more money in circulation now, created by the bank out of thin air. Just not physical money -- the extra can only exist on paper, as account balances.

  • @joshuashires
    @joshuashires 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That was epic. That was the best explanation of what currency is and how it came to be, ever! Sterling Job.

  • @SkiDaBird
    @SkiDaBird 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I just want to clear one common misconception. We don’t carry a cash equivalent to our liquid reserve in our vaults. The amount of cash in the vault is purely an operations decision. Those are two separate things.

    • @jasondashney
      @jasondashney 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      By the fact I have to call days ahead if I wanna withdraw a measly $10,000 cash to buy a used Corolla, I damn sure hope it's an operations decision, ha ha. They damn sure better not be that close to the line.

  • @mohamedabduweli5091
    @mohamedabduweli5091 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing educational video by Sam.
    This is the difference between underdeveloped nations and developed nations.
    The importance of the Financial system is not understood by many, this is what makes most people to get up and work.

  • @mosaicowlstudios
    @mosaicowlstudios 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you already have, or will you do, an episode on Endpoint Exchange and Check Image Processing?

  • @stev6963
    @stev6963 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    This was so fascinating and helped conceptualize the financial systems that have always seemed so unbelievably complex to me but never knowing why.

  • @ricequackers
    @ricequackers 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    As someone who works on integrating with SWIFT for a living, this is a great video! Can confirm, it's very complex and the security requirements are paramount!

  • @AJGoff110
    @AJGoff110 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    4:30 I think it's important to emphasize the difference between creating money and creating value. The bank might create the money out of thin air when they issue the loan, but it's the farmer growing new watermelons that actually adds value into the system.

    • @HexerPsy
      @HexerPsy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It really is - if the bank issues loans but no value gets added to the economy, then its causing deflation.

    • @mzaite
      @mzaite 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HexerPsy And that can happen any time banks issue loans to say farmers who then have a blight, or drought, or other under return. Loans have a real and universal risk to all users of the economy.

  • @mostiFarahat
    @mostiFarahat 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, thanks for modling the community scene, I built this model once in my mind and it was rally hard to imagine, you made things easy for me now.
    But, I guess that money wasn't created out of thin air and also it wasn't created within the bank, the real creation of the money came from selling the harvested crops at the market, the agricultrual activity is the reason for the new value created.

  • @JhonPereda
    @JhonPereda 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is an amazing video that deserves more likes. I wish I could subscribe twice. Excellent work!