All the "konami" bad dudes are. Just in old konami videogames the bad dudes get killed and the hero doesn't get in contact with the truth they described. Or the other way around, Tailor got Zaius Viewpoint rubbed to his face, while Belmont, Porter, Snake... can only rant: "Your words are as empty as your soul" without realizing they aren't even aware of what the bad dude is referring to.
I almost forgot he didn't know this was Earth. He must have thought it was strange that this planet had ape-like creatures, humans, Earth-like plants and English. Other things that could have been preselected for the type of planet the astronauts were looking for in the mission that are similar to Earth: gravity, atmospheric composition, one clearly visible sun and moon, strong magnetosphere (he would slowly burn up otherwise), etc. Also, being an astronaut, you would think he would look up at the stars and realize that he was from the same viewpoint as Earth. That would be like going back to your home town but not recognizing it until you saw one particular statue there.
If your hometown had all the buildings rebuilt and renamed and all the street rebuilt and renamed and not noticing until you found that old statue in a junkyard outside.
I actually have a counter to the starpoint argument. Over such a long amount of time, the earth's axis would have shifted by a few degrees, changing the constellations slightly.
Language is always handwaved in these stories. It’s why Freeza and the Namekians all speak -Japanese- English despite having no idea what Earth is. It’s why Star Wars speaks -English- Basic throughout the galaxy. It’s not an issue in stories.
... but he had his blind spots. Much of what he railed about against humanity could also be said about his ape society, maybe that's part of what freaked him out so much about Taylor. He realized that apes aren't so different, and might share the same fate, eventually.
@@snoproblem I agree, It's a good foil. Are the actions that keep a society stable always ethical? Self destruction is a choice, one that can be avoided, but death cannot. Do we tolerate the risk of change if it could empower flawed humans & apes to destroy the world or do we suppress it for as long as we live. Dr. Zaius's actions could be situationally justifiable, but our world hasn't been destroyed yet, so it also feels unfair & cynical.
Zauis is a fascinating character since what he preaches in like, 100% correct. However, what he doesn't realize is that the very thing that he's practicing is more or less the exact same thing that man used to practice, thus leading to the potential downfall of ape society, much like how humans led to their own destruction. It's similar to Ceasar's realization in the newer movies, where he finds out that man and ape aren't nearly as different as he originally thought.
Dr. Zauis already knew that Taylor was on Earth before he realized it himself by telling Taylor not to look for it because he won't like what he finds, and Dr. Zauis was right.
@@danielblair4413 that’s correct, but he only realised that Taylor must be from the past during the scene in the cave, when Taylor began explaining what certain objects were. Dr Zaius knew what they were as well of course, but because of the secrecy surrounding the old world, couldn’t say it, but hearing Taylor describe them, Dr Zaius realised that Taylor MUST have been from the same time as when the objects were made. Hence his line “Don’t look for it Taylor… you may not like what you find.” By then he knew Taylor had spoken true about where he was from and how he’d arrived in their world, but what Taylor didn’t know, was that he ended up back where he started.
“Beware the beast Man, for he is the Devil’s pawn. Alone among God’s primates, he kills for sport or lust or greed. Yea, he will murder his brother to possess his brother’s land. Let him not breed in great numbers, for he will make a desert of his home and yours. Shun him; drive him back into his jungle lair, for he is the harbinger of death.” Can you imagine if the distant future, these words would echo out among the stars?
I know that it's in a completely different canon, but this scene gets a lot juicier when applied to the newer movies, because we saw exactly how man's wisdom and idiocy went hand in hand.
original french. or original Planet of the Apes novel adaptation of the original french (never read the french one because nobody made an unofficial english translation of it) La Planète des Singes by Pierre Boulle
While I enjoyed some of the sequels and prequels, I really with they had stopped after this. The ending was so perfect, maybe the best ending in movie history. They should have left it alone.
That is such a good description of the human race. On the one hand with our technology we are gods compared to the other species on this planet. But at the same time when have you ever heard of dung beetles wiping themselves out in a holy war? Edit: I'm not suggesting that religion invented war.
@@spacecolonyalliances.c.a1234 I'm not suggesting that the other species don't fight. But they fight for survival. Not because Sky Daddy, told them to.
@@bugwar5545 A dung beetle is not a role model. That's my point. The other species are so far beneath us in so many ways. Yet they lack our human madness. They are not smart enough to be NASA scientists. But they are also not demented enough to appear on Jerry Springer.
@@bugwar5545 A dung beetle is not a role model. That's my point. The other species are so far b e n e a t h us in so many ways. Yet they lack our human madness. They are not smart enough to be NASA scientists. But they are also not demented enough to appear on Jerry Springer.
@@suchiuomizu he never indicated his political alignment. Do you really believe that everyone that isn't a Democrat is a traitor? You know that Democrats are only about 34% of the population right?
@@suchiuomizu XD by taking democracy, trying to abolish the electoral college so democracy is a dream and only votes from the big city matters, silencing any speech you don't like, the use of ism's for ANYTHING you don't like, allowing illegal migrants in unabaited which harms housing and jobs for the people BORN THERE, ignoring anything your side does while running out screaming with any lie about the other side you have heardd and done no research on? ETC ETC Bang up job you're doing there Stalin
During the WW2 the inhabitants of a Buda district started hunting people in the enclosed capital At the scene of the massacres today stands the symbol they use,a sword-grabbing Turul "Ladies and Gentlemen! The Turul is belong to our blood and to our soil. The Turul is symbol of Hungarians living today, who have died and to be born. The Turulbird tells us that there is only one Homeland, that can unite all the Hungarians within the Trianonborders and beyond." "For us, those from the Islamic world are not a threat, but we welcome them as representatives of a high civilization and we are not ashamed to learn from them The US is no longer on the throne of the world, Eurasia is rebuilding, the frames of our EU are crackling,” -Fürer Orbán
"You may not like what you find", even after decades, this sentence still gives me goosebump
Can you say, foreshadowing?
genetic experimentation most likely, biblical
"You may not like what you find".ZAIUS WAS RIGHT.
Planet of the Apes was one of the few franchises where the villains were almost always correct.
All the "konami" bad dudes are.
Just in old konami videogames the bad dudes get killed and the hero doesn't get in contact with the truth they described.
Or the other way around, Tailor got Zaius Viewpoint rubbed to his face, while Belmont, Porter, Snake... can only rant: "Your words are as empty as your soul" without realizing they aren't even aware of what the bad dude is referring to.
AAARGH GOD DAMN IT ALL TO HELL SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE
@@puffolottiHey Boss, I think you're in the wrong place...
"I LOVE YOU DR. ZAIUS!"
literally just finished watching this for the first time after loving the prequels, amazing movie, certified classic
The newer ones aren’t prequels they’re reboots
@@gregorbegger9291 they called it a “series refresh” so take that as you will, I take it as a prequel, you take it as a reboot.
new movies are a different continuity
Literally just finished watching it and did not even get the movies. :D
DR ZAIUS DR ZAIUS. DR ZAIUS DR ZAIUS. DR ZAIUS DR ZAIUS. OOOOOOH DR ZAIUS!
"Come and rock me DR ZAIUS.!"
"What's wrong with me?!"
"Oh how I hate every apes I see, from chimpan-A to chimpan-Z"
Can I play p-iano?
@@guyver441 Of course you can.
rumor has it he thinks he's crazy. rumor has it he also thinks he's lazy, too
Save me Dr. zeis
@@USAads2023 ohh no, you do your own dirty work
@@grawakendream8980 Can I play the piano anymore??
After all these years, still a masterpiece. The ending still blows me away, no matter how many times I've seen it.
Zaius is turned out such a fascinating character! He's positioned asvillain in the story, but his thinking is neither archaine nor immoral.
I almost forgot he didn't know this was Earth. He must have thought it was strange that this planet had ape-like creatures, humans, Earth-like plants and English. Other things that could have been preselected for the type of planet the astronauts were looking for in the mission that are similar to Earth: gravity, atmospheric composition, one clearly visible sun and moon, strong magnetosphere (he would slowly burn up otherwise), etc. Also, being an astronaut, you would think he would look up at the stars and realize that he was from the same viewpoint as Earth. That would be like going back to your home town but not recognizing it until you saw one particular statue there.
If your hometown had all the buildings rebuilt and renamed and all the street rebuilt and renamed and not noticing until you found that old statue in a junkyard outside.
I actually have a counter to the starpoint argument. Over such a long amount of time, the earth's axis would have shifted by a few degrees, changing the constellations slightly.
Language is always handwaved in these stories. It’s why Freeza and the Namekians all speak -Japanese- English despite having no idea what Earth is. It’s why Star Wars speaks -English- Basic throughout the galaxy. It’s not an issue in stories.
@@gergthegoblin 2000 years into the future is almost nothing in astronomical terms, so the change would be almost imperceptible.
@@saltyk9869 That's called lazy writing.
I remember watching this movie in a theater in late 80s and being blown away by the ending.
Heston was really hitting the dystopian 70s classics. They should have snuck him into Logans Run. Omega Man. Planet of the Apes. Soylent Green.
Doctor Zaius was right..... so they did a big Broadway musical based on his wisdom, starring Troy McClure!
Zaius was more wise than we wanted to admit.
... but he had his blind spots. Much of what he railed about against humanity could also be said about his ape society, maybe that's part of what freaked him out so much about Taylor. He realized that apes aren't so different, and might share the same fate, eventually.
@@snoproblem I agree, It's a good foil. Are the actions that keep a society stable always ethical? Self destruction is a choice, one that can be avoided, but death cannot. Do we tolerate the risk of change if it could empower flawed humans & apes to destroy the world or do we suppress it for as long as we live. Dr. Zaius's actions could be situationally justifiable, but our world hasn't been destroyed yet, so it also feels unfair & cynical.
"Dr. Zaius, all we asked was why you have a chest full of old magazines full of muscular men in their underwear while oiled up?"
Dr Zaius knew: Soylet Green is People! It's Peeepoooole!
That's when HAL didn't open the pod bay doors.
Zauis is a fascinating character since what he preaches in like, 100% correct. However, what he doesn't realize is that the very thing that he's practicing is more or less the exact same thing that man used to practice, thus leading to the potential downfall of ape society, much like how humans led to their own destruction. It's similar to Ceasar's realization in the newer movies, where he finds out that man and ape aren't nearly as different as he originally thought.
"You jerks! You assholes! You knocked it over! You knocked over our statue! That was a GIIIIIIFT!!!"
I was 12 when I saw this movie in the theatre. At the time I thought Dr. ZEUS was the bad guy! Was I ever wrong!!
Oh, but he was a bad guy. It's simply that he wasn't the only one...
He's the antagonist, but that's not the same as being a villain.
Yep, Zaius had us humans pegged.
And yet he’s the one tied to the rock.
Dr. Zauis, would you rather encounter a man or a bear in the Forbidden Zone?
Or even a tiger or wolves
Dr. Zauis already knew that Taylor was on Earth before he realized it himself by telling Taylor not to look for it because he won't like what he finds, and Dr. Zauis was right.
😂😂😂
@@danielblair4413 that’s correct, but he only realised that Taylor must be from the past during the scene in the cave, when Taylor began explaining what certain objects were. Dr Zaius knew what they were as well of course, but because of the secrecy surrounding the old world, couldn’t say it, but hearing Taylor describe them, Dr Zaius realised that Taylor MUST have been from the same time as when the objects were made.
Hence his line “Don’t look for it Taylor… you may not like what you find.”
By then he knew Taylor had spoken true about where he was from and how he’d arrived in their world, but what Taylor didn’t know, was that he ended up back where he started.
If Zauis was a chimp he could take anything
“Beware the beast Man, for he is the Devil’s pawn. Alone among God’s primates, he kills for sport or lust or greed. Yea, he will murder his brother to possess his brother’s land. Let him not breed in great numbers, for he will make a desert of his home and yours. Shun him; drive him back into his jungle lair, for he is the harbinger of death.”
Can you imagine if the distant future, these words would echo out among the stars?
Zauis was low key wise af.
I have a greedy neighbor named Taylor.
is he a neanderthal?
That self projection was extreme
That whoosh you felt was the point going right over your head.
@@josephmanno4514 the apes are expansionist and dominant as hell.
@@josephmanno4514 oh no not a reddit guy fuck
"I LOVE YOU DR ZAIUS!"
Hes taken sorry
Man Heston is a hunk bare chested in a loincloth!
Still one of the best reveals over 50 years later.
I know that it's in a completely different canon, but this scene gets a lot juicier when applied to the newer movies, because we saw exactly how man's wisdom and idiocy went hand in hand.
I can only advise to read the original novel. The ending twist is quite different and it could only work in bookform.
original french. or original Planet of the Apes novel adaptation of the original french (never read the french one because nobody made an unofficial english translation of it) La Planète des Singes by Pierre Boulle
I'd like to see a Dr.Zaius origin film.
While I enjoyed some of the sequels and prequels, I really with they had stopped after this. The ending was so perfect, maybe the best ending in movie history. They should have left it alone.
I don't think asking companies to forfeit a profit opportunity for the sake of art is a good idea
@@HallidayASR I understand why they made more movies. Just that it ruined the art, like money often does.
@@pelicanhill3251 Yeah, we can't expect that to change anytime soon
Zaius gave the single greatest description i have ever heard of mankind from an outside perspective
....time for that tour of lady liberty
That is such a good description of the human race. On the one hand with our technology we are gods compared to the other species on this planet. But at the same time when have you ever heard of dung beetles wiping themselves out in a holy war?
Edit: I'm not suggesting that religion invented war.
Nice point about using a creature that lives, eats, and plays in feces as your role model.
No but ants do have war, and they do it a lot. Some do it daily. It is fascinating.
@@spacecolonyalliances.c.a1234 I'm not suggesting that the other species don't fight. But they fight for survival. Not because Sky Daddy, told them to.
@@bugwar5545 A dung beetle is not a role model. That's my point. The other species are so far beneath us in so many ways. Yet they lack our human madness. They are not smart enough to be NASA scientists. But they are also not demented enough to appear on Jerry Springer.
@@bugwar5545 A dung beetle is not a role model. That's my point. The other species are so far b e n e a t h us in so many ways. Yet they lack our human madness. They are not smart enough to be NASA scientists. But they are also not demented enough to appear on Jerry Springer.
Hanging With Dr Z
Instead of tied to the rock in the sun wouldnt he be more comfortable out in the ocean tied to the rock.
“Do not let him breed in great numbers, for he will make a desert of his home, and of yours.”
Wow 😮
It's not factual though, so are you saying 'wow' to the lie?
@@GaryM67-71 Keep telling yourself that. Maybe it’ll help you sleep at night
@@NemeanLion- It must be weird being an NPC, utterly brainwashed, but I can't imagine you even realise. Ah well. Bye.
@@GaryM67-71 Maybe your other ball will drop someday. Good luck! 👍
Early Gen X anti humanism, right there.
Never thought about it before, but Dr. Zaius looks kind of like Donald Trump. He seems a lot smarter though.
Yup.....
If you have, then have you ever felt like a woman?
The older I get, the more I agree with Dr Zauis
Democrats would love to see the statue in that condition !
We are trying to save it from you, traitor.
@@suchiuomizu By supporting world wars?
Thanks for showing us you are a brainwashed fool.
@@suchiuomizu he never indicated his political alignment. Do you really believe that everyone that isn't a Democrat is a traitor? You know that Democrats are only about 34% of the population right?
@@suchiuomizu XD by taking democracy, trying to abolish the electoral college so democracy is a dream and only votes from the big city matters, silencing any speech you don't like, the use of ism's for ANYTHING you don't like, allowing illegal migrants in unabaited which harms housing and jobs for the people BORN THERE, ignoring anything your side does while running out screaming with any lie about the other side you have heardd and done no research on? ETC ETC Bang up job you're doing there Stalin
During the WW2 the inhabitants of a Buda district started hunting people in the enclosed capital
At the scene of the massacres today stands the symbol they use,a sword-grabbing Turul
"Ladies and Gentlemen!
The Turul is belong to our blood and to our soil.
The Turul is symbol of Hungarians living today, who have died and to be born.
The Turulbird tells us that there is only one Homeland, that can unite all the Hungarians within the Trianonborders and beyond."
"For us, those from the Islamic world are not a threat, but we welcome them as representatives of a high civilization and we are not ashamed to learn from them
The US is no longer on the throne of the world, Eurasia is rebuilding, the frames of our EU are crackling,”
-Fürer Orbán
Probably lose the next election.
sounds like communism to me
@@Dulc3B00kbyBrant0n Nazism ignoramus
monkey, you got a nice makeup tho