Dude, just noticed that you credited OpenStreetMap in the description. As a mapper, thank you for recognizing our work!! You probably do this every time, just wanted to thank you now that i noticed it, 'cause not all creators do.
The Pirate Stock Exchange reminds of the East India Company. They first started getting money for their exploration by selling "shares" of the voyages in order to fund them. IRC it was the first "publically traded" company.
@@DieNibelungenliad I guess so... I'm not so sure I like it either, quite frankly. I know that "ethic" in doing business is something that gets thrown around maybe a bit too often lately, but damn... pirates!
I love that there was a sponsor out there who was just like, "piracy and international terrorism finance? Yeah that sounds close enough. Put us on with that"
everything has an economy these days, even those little Pokémon cards. it's no different. The world is just one giant business, that's why Donald trump was a successful president
@@mattdajedi Was he though? What are some concrete examples of the Trump Administration making any successful economic decisions, that benefit anything and anyone besides himself and his family? I'm genuinely curious as I cannot recall anything.
No, it's just information what you feel like you should do with it, is up to you. You should reword it to, you're easily influenced and now are thinking of becoming a "rich" pirate/rebel
According to some estimates, pirates in 2008 pulled in as much as $150 million, indicating that piracy is now Somalia's biggest industry. In fact, successful pirates are the country's most eligible bachelors. While small-time swashbucklers earn in the low five figures, bosses can pull in $2 million a year-this, in a country where you can buy dinner for less than $1. But as their wallets fatten, many pirates are heading for greener pastures,
so we can expect us led nato invasion in 2023 or 2024 and they have oil and pirates and ukraine russia invasion caused oil price to rise so perfect time for it
Few geopolitical and history videos are truly eye-opening to me, usually they kind of confirm what I already think. This one was different! It never occurred to me to think how modern day rebels finance themselves, and particularly the part about how Western organizations outsource the payments to avoid the stigma. Thanks for a great video!!
Bribery is always better if you call it something else, like a transit fee... Make you wondee how much money these western businesses make if they are openly operating in such risky markets. The margins must be incredibly high to be worthwhile.
living there would rlly open ur eyes to it the civilians been knew how this works and they gained nothing from it the government officials reap all the benefits and western powers dont wanna do anything about it because they make money off of it to fund new weapons for them to buy and kill each other with
Incredibly tragic how Somalia just fell apart. When they got their independence, a number of folks thought they'd be one of the most prosperous young republics in Africa.
@@thunderbird1921 don’t forget the Cubans who worked with Ethiopia to take 1/3 of our overall population! And murderer Siad Barre who genocided all tribes other than his….
A lot of non Somali pirates experts here commenting with no knowledge. I'm Somali and piracy has mainly ended when international naval fleets arrived. Unfortunately, now these naval fleets ignore an explosion in illegal fishing. So the receipe of disaster has showed itself again, just awaiting the rains (departure of fleets). The bigger problem is extortion by al-shabab militants on businesses.
We in the west tend to learn a fact and never check again on it. If you ask the avarage person, Somali is still the pirate capital, only 4 percent of the ocean ground is known, and we still have no nuclear waste end-dump. Except, all of this has changed in the last 5-10 years.
@@hansvader4864 Fair enough, because all cultures understands itself better than other ones. But it does get annoying to see demonization of all the Somali pirates, when we consider them to be our heroes. Despite the civil war, all Somali factions respect the pirates, from the government to Alshabab, because all Somalis know why they formed and how they saved us all.
To be completely frank though, it hasn't. The actual incidence rate has just been extremely low as of yet because of International Agreements and Naval Intervention. The U.S Navy still actively catches pirates, but usually they just get let go when their boats get stopped in the act.
According to folks that have traveled in that area, they used to be fishermen until the giant commercial fishing corps robbed all the fish. That's why they became pirates.
Somalia also had/has no functioning government so there were little other ways to make money. There was an international effort to eradicate Somalian piracy, together with slightly better prospects Somalians aren't really pirating that much these days.
It's more than that. Not only did the trawlers fish illegally (no navy to stop them), but European waste disposal companies simply dumped off the Somali coast so that any fish that would recover, didn't.
This is so true. The root cause of this problem is: The Western greed of resources. Other than backing local militia group for robbing mines, ships from European unions started fishing illegally in Somalian waters (Indian ocean) since they had no coastguards. They brought giant fishing vessels and sucked all the fishes meant for Somalian fisherman's. Local Fishermans who went miles farther in the ocean for fishing were only be able to return with 1 or 2 fishes despite spending 14-16 hrs a day. According to an article posted in Huffington post these European ships robbed $300 millions worth of fishes and seafood every year. Not only that, ships from European Unions or so called NATO were dumping huge barrels of Nuclear Wastes in the ocean as it was the cheapest way of getting rid of those than regular mechanism. People suffered strange rashes, skin cancer, lung cancer, nausea and malformed babies. Then, after the 2005 tsunami, hundreds of the dumped and leaking barrels washed up on shore. People began to suffer from radiation sickness, and more than 300 died. Many of these fishermans were starving to death. They had no options left but to stand up against these unmasked robbers and were forced to take up arms. That's how they started hijacking vessels, demanded ransoms and became pirates. It's been more than a decade nobody has been made accountable for this loot and killing.
Yeah thats the classic/common explanation. In truth it's only a small part of the real complex geopolitical explanation. I saw a video on nebula that went into more detail i think its from polymatter probably available on yt
I'm from Somalia and the pirates actually used the money to support the their communities and towns. Thanks for making a video on my home country, love your content lore :)
That stock footage of firing an RPG has to be the rarest and most perfect use of visuals in an infotainment video I've ever seen. Like, that had to have only ever been downloaded from Shutterstock or whatever one time, by you, for this video.
Imagine being some poor farmer in the Congo and you drive through 30 roadblocks on the way to and from the market to sell your goods. No wonder the people are so poor; they’re being taxed left and right by not only the government but a bunch of rebels at checkpoints on roads they didn’t even build.
I have been to Congo and seen these road blocks infact regular folk sometimes threaten to stone your car or pay them and If you don't pay them they will break every glass on your car
@@fingers8650 They must be desperate for cash. In other wealthy countries like Japan, UAE, Canada, regular people don’t threaten to break car windows for money. Money makes life easier.
@@PROVOCATEURSK People never gave a crap about religion historically, especially when cash is involved, like the Landsknecht who pillaged Rome for cash, they didn't give a crap about scripture like basically everyone. The Germans enjoyed themselves in WW2 by breaking every religious rule ever. Even if some deny it, everyone knows religion is made up nonsense. Being threaten to not go in heaven does not change anything when you don't even believe it exists, may as well exploit the weaklings who do.
Countries during civil wars have weird scenarios. In Somalia, you have entire peaceful territories where businessowners pay 0% in taxes, but then in the contested areas you end up paying taxes to multiple factions simultaneously.
This is eye opening for me... Everything is about money, money, money. I thought some of them terrorist groups are about radical religious, some might be for political agendas and so on but it's just making money.
The practical reality is that groups fighting for ideals believe in those ideas because they see them as a way to make life better for themselves. It’s less about money per se than quality of life. If you’re happy with your job and your house and your stuff, even if you believe in fringe political or religious ideas, you’re not really gonna go start an insurrection. You’ve got too much to lose
Well you can’t eat religion or political agenda, you also can’t shot religion or political agenda you need food and weapon which is paid by money. On the other hand, if you really thinking hard what is religion? Like really what is religion, isn’t religion just an entity that always demands money? GOD doesn’t need your money, think about it GOD created everything, why does GOD need gold silver or a piece of paper with ink on it? Religion is just about money, so radical religion also just about money.
I saw the first guy who started all this in Somalia in 2007 , he was retired at that time with a net worth 80 million. He had 4 wives and over 20 children. He told us that he had small fishing company that generates 17 k a year and suddenly Chinese fishing boats started destroying his nets week and week out. Then, he started recruiting his employees and hijacked an illegal Chinese boat in Somali sea near the town of Bosaso in 1998.
Most of the time tho it’s outside people coming into Somalia’s maritime border and taking their fish or contaminating their waters. Before people say ‘ships gotta go thru the Gulf of Aden’ I agree but the maritime border on the east is theirs.
In Bangladesh, It also happens. But they are very clever. They only work at night and uses flash light to stop trucks or other vehicles. Then demand high prices for passes. Because of this there is a big price difference of vagetable and other needs between villages and cities.
in india gangs, often charge shopkeepers money to keep them "safe", ironically those groups are supported by political parties and they money they collect is used for election campaign, though its eliminated in BJP rules states bcz ending this makes people like them, and ending this ends oppositions source of income, lol
My uncle an ofw and his crew personally experienced being taken hostage by somalian pirates back in the early 2000's, luckily he and his crew was rescued,now he's living happily with my aunt and their 2 wonderful kids
Even tho Talibani checkpoints collect 200k a day, rampant corruption and no written evidence means that individuals can demand high fees for passing and not give the money to higher powers.
There's quite a bit that doesn't break into our news much, like the UN mission in the Central African Republic. That place is a disaster similar to Somalia. Chad also had their president die in battle apparently while fighting a rebellion, so who knows what will happen there. African nations like Botswana are incredibly fortunate to have had wise leadership and mostly moral government.
I can tell you more about how illegal groups gather money. In my home state drug dealers first banned (by making offers owners "couldn't refuse") all places that sold alcohol illegally (which at the time meant after 11 PM) so that they could control the market. Of course they raised the prices by a huge amount. Later they cut the curfew to 8pm. So basically if you want to buy alcohol after 8pm, unless you know any retail store owner, you have to pay them and pay them good. This is in Mexico by the way, so we count as the west. It affects every government that doesn't happen to own nuclear weapons I suppose.
@@thunderbird1921 It's pretty simplistic to think morals are what makes certain African countries more stable and wealthy than others. There *are* unfortunately lots of immoral actions in the continent, like corruption and oppression, but if it was that simple, it would be a lot easier. Other factors are more important, like local allegiances, clannism, ethnic separatism, disagreements over ressources, alliances, different kinds of elites, laws and more encompassing - the *history* of it. Everything from local relations of the past centuries, to which side of the Cold War they were in, to current problems.
These roadblocks remind me of toll castles from the medieval ages. When the government does not have authority over the population it turns towards controling trade routes.
Yes. The castles were along the Rhine river in what is now Germany. There is one famous one that looks like a ship on an island. They would put heavy chains over the river to prevent ships crossing without paying the toll
@@DieNibelungenliad rivers valleys hill passes... all those were extremely nice natural ways to block and toll... thats how switzerland started. they did tolls on routes from italy to germany
Why go back to the middle ages, we have toll roads everywhere in the present. In France for example the highways are operated by private companies and you have to pay a non-negotiable fee multiple times along the way. For example just going from Bordeaux to Spain you have 3 or 4 tolls, clocking about 20€ for 220 km. The main difference I guess is that these companies are supposed to also maintain the pavement and rest areas in good conditions. Plus they don't threaten you with automatic guns, that's a plus.
Reminds me of the U.S. border patrol checkpoints well inside the United States in Arizona, Texas and I assume New Mexico and California. You have to stop and talk with an officer real quick and they're largely there to catch people human trafficking in their truck trailers.
Something very similar happens where I live. My father works as an engineer for schools and roads. Sometime after the construction starts they will receive a letter saying something like "For the peaceful continuation of operations pay this amount in cash, before 3/4 months". After sometime a group of men will come to collect the cash. They want it specifically in cash because using the bank makes them traceable. If you don't comply with their demands. They usually set fire to equipment being used in the construction site.
In certain parts of western cities this is still happening. Local gangs wanting 'protection' money. Thats why in the city centers, small businesses leave !!!! Even if you call the police, the police cant do shit but take useless fingerprints AFTER the crimes !!!!
@@wussrestbrook1200 Somaliland is not recognized but is a country, it has been for 30 years. Somalia is recognized but has barely functioned as a country for the last 30 years.
@@wussrestbrook1200 I think you're confusing Hargeisa (the second largest Somali city) with Bossaso (a small village in Puntland). Hargeisa has many roads and building you can see that on the many videos showing Hargeisa. Bossaso and Garowe don't even have sewage or electricity.
@@wussrestbrook1200 I'm not from either of those place but Somaliland is opposite of what somalia all entails.unlike somalia, the self declared republic of Somaliland is the most peaceful and well governed territory anywhere in the world. I know that nationalism do suck,but for someone from somalia starting to assert his/her claim over Somaliland when s/he has relatively zero control over his/her own territory of somalia is nothing but a pure buffoonery. Somaliland has no rebel group within its border, both on land and sea while somalia is a country which is functionally ungovernable and couldn't hold an "election"(which is by itself a selection) for nearly 3 years now after the government mandate expired. It's imperative that you attend to more pertinent issue in your country like but not limited to piracy,terorism,radical political Islam,corruption, tribal war etc than reducing yourself to a drama siren
Welp. Finally got to see a no-holds barred downside to an economic system where most of everything can be semi-legally bought with money. Been a while.
when you don't have an organised government and a tax administration that works, checkpoints make sense, not much more different than tax collectors in medieval europe, not sure if the locals end up paying more or less than they would if the government taxed them directly
The DRC will be part of the East African community, which means business interests....which means Tanzania, Kenya ,the two military giants in the region might bring some sense of security
yup its in ghost recon wildlands as well, u can see checkpoints of both the private army and the cartel. dont know why the cartel is collecting taxes tho
Wealth, fame, power. Gold Roger the king of the pirates obtained this and everything else the World had to offer. And his dying words drove countless souls to the seas. “You want my treasure? You can have it! I left everything I gathered Together in one place. Now you just have to find it! ” These words lured men to the grand line, pursuing dreams greater than they Ever dared to imagine. This is the time known as the great pirate era. Sorry. Just needed to lighten the mood a little bit.
Here in Nigeria in the place where there's no insurgency, it's our Police replacing it. A 10 min drive on the expressway, you can meet up to 10 police checkpoint and sometimes even threaten you with gun or pay. That's new salary bag for a long time
I remember around 2008/2009, one of my friends, pirates gave him a job he was translated between pirates and ship owners,after they receive 5 million dollars they gave him $200 thousand dollars really it was good days.
I see this happen in my home city. they are not rebel, just some gang member asking for protection fee. Protect from what you ask?... well of course... from the same delinquent.
@@ShihammeDarc they buy weapons from corrupt soldiers and police and other rebels and criminal syndicates, there is a huge underground arms black market. They get training in various ways, for example they might get it from other terrorist groups and rebels, they might get it from corrupt soldiers, they might infiltrate the military with their own men who will come back and train them, there are even western ex soldiers who will secretly go to these places and train them for a good amount of money or because they sympathize with the ideology.
In the case of Somalia, AMISOM also have check points and are corrupt. Last time my husband was in Xamar, an AMISOM soldier took his expensive smart phone at one of their road blocks. Of course Al-Shabab has check points too. One girl I know was fined for wearing a skirt that was too tight. Then again, I just finished reading Malcolm Gladwell's "Talking to Strangers" - Sandra Bland was ticketed (fined) for failure to signal when merging lanes, and cops pull people over for bullshit reasons all the time. Those are another sort of road block.
It’s actually pretty cool of Al Shabaab to only make people pay at one of their checkpoints then give them a pass to get through the rest. Must suck to drive through some rebel groups checkpoint, pay their fee and two minutes later roll up to another checkpoint operated by the same rebel group just to pay again.
@@TrailsVonMudder Yea I mentioned that in another comment; how a rebel group that didn’t even build the roads have the balls to setup hundreds of checkpoints across a small region and wonder why everyone hates them. At least Al Shabaab recognize the burden and try to reduce the cost on the population at the expense of their own finances.
The responsible thing to do with your extra cash is to put it to work with some long term investing. And this episode's sponsor Harardhere Pirate Stock Exchange makes that ridiculously simple!
2:03 that is some crazy footage. Imagine being an impoverished young man heading out into the sea on a small boat with a machine gun, not knowing if you’ll return alive.
Piracy was huge in the late 1990s up until around the early early 2010s as Vessels & Cargo Ships are now allowed to hire armed security guards to patrol the ships and it's cargo. Somalia has always been a tough country to live by and pirates will continue going out into the open ocean. As piracy dwindles there will be a select few who will score big. That's a line of work that will never go away unfortunately regardless of how hard things may get.
Somali pirates only happened because foreign countries kept taking fish from somali waters. You see how one problem leads to another they tried taking advantage of unstable country and it backfired.
@@kh7736 It was bound to happen regardless. I know that Japan has taken fish from many African countries including Somalia which has the longest coastline on Africa. Sad though.
@@anthonyg.4785 I was seen many documentarys where foreign countries take advantage of a unstable nation which then intensifies the problem even more. It might have happened either way but not to the scale we saw.
In Somalia’s capital, until 2012, Al shabab literally had control over a portion on the city and everyone was just used to it and living with it. Imagine Wall Street vein parliament, and anything above Central Park was al shabab ran territory
@@noodleooodle4098 they actually ran the whole capital and most of Somalia at some point. They lost their last major city in 2014. There was a time the government controlled only one city while the capital was controlled by war lords.
@@noodleooodle4098 1995? AS didnt exist then, it was clash of clans meets the purge then, it was in 2006 that Islamists took Mogadishu which AS being their special ops after the invasion of Ethiopia, the Islamists splintered and only two groups remained, one being AS who then absorbed the other group. Why are you relatives shook of a group they didnt even witness and are miles away from? Either you're capping or you dont know basic Somali history.
@@shorewall You mean "it's the nature of State", robery and taxation of everything peaceful people produce. Not a single difference from any modern state method.
@@vitumalatesta no it's definitely the state of nature. Governments don't rise in a vacuum, people automatically create tribes and groups which eventually become governments. It's why anarchism is a silly childish idea, people are tribal animals not free spirits. In the absence of government there will only be constant conflict between different tribes until one of them win and become the government
The Somali pirates are my heroes. They exist cause the world f*cked over a small group of people and they fought back and won. yes, they've become a criminal organization now, but how they started, they had a right to defend their livelihoods and waters.
Reminds me of City Skylines where you can make a lot more money by placing lots of toll gates instead of building a working city, but I never thought this could work in real life xD
2:57 Flooded with expensive luxury cars which will need expensive imported parts to keep going, because the residents chose to spend their windfall returns on looking rich. Most of the money went right back to the developed countries who paid the ransoms. The local importers, salesmen, truck drivers, and mechanics earned most of the capital that didn’t depart Somalia with the sale of the expensive luxury vehicles. A poor mindset spend their windfall on a luxury car, and sets little to nothing aside for expensive parts and service to keep it going. Poor mindsets make up poor countries, countries mainly stay poor because of the citizens poor mindsets. This has nothing to do with resources or formal education levels just the lack of clean applicable knowledge.
As a Somalian pirate myself I can confirm this is true. But instead of looking for treasure in the traditional way by searching into different islands, we look for treasures in floating irons that happens to be passing by our waters.
Fun fact a lot of Somali pirates used to be fishers but because illegal fishers and fishing companies started forcing them out of their waters they became pirates and started taxing and demanding fees for them being there
Dude, just noticed that you credited OpenStreetMap in the description. As a mapper, thank you for recognizing our work!! You probably do this every time, just wanted to thank you now that i noticed it, 'cause not all creators do.
IKR!!
That's so nice of him
Just wanted to put a comment
@@UnkownTH-camr286 It's a bot, save yourself the time
Well the map is wrong it removes a huge chunk of Somalia
well creators are legally obligated to under copyright law
The Pirate Stock Exchange reminds of the East India Company. They first started getting money for their exploration by selling "shares" of the voyages in order to fund them. IRC it was the first "publically traded" company.
The Dutch East India Company was just a bit earlier and even that is disputed as the earliest one.
Whenever I hear of the "East India [Trading] Company" I always think of _Pirates of the Caribbean_ lol 😂
What I exactly thought haha
What does irc stand for?
@@ConvictedFelon2024 for India there were worse then even pirates
Ahh yes, always nice to look into a new career opportunity
Ahh yes, I guess we will become colleagues...
Yes I agree
lol
For the empire
@@UnkownTH-camr286 literally no one gaf dude
Pirates paying dividends is something I would have never expected to be a thing.
Criminal enterprise is just enterpise that the gov doesnt like
@@DieNibelungenliad I guess so... I'm not so sure I like it either, quite frankly. I know that "ethic" in doing business is something that gets thrown around maybe a bit too often lately, but damn... pirates!
@@FrancescoDiMauro i agree, imagine earning millions but knowing it was made through hostage-taking. Wouldn’t feel too good
@@DieNibelungenliad For good reasons. Making money from killing, kidnapping, and thieving is fucked up
@@ThwipThwipBoom Not if I get to do it!
I love that there was a sponsor out there who was just like, "piracy and international terrorism finance? Yeah that sounds close enough. Put us on with that"
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Pirate bay be like: hehe
"Pirate Stock Exchange" is not a phrase I expected to hear today.
I just imagine Meme man wearing a pirate cap and saying "Stonks"
everything has an economy these days, even those little Pokémon cards. it's no different. The world is just one giant business, that's why Donald trump was a successful president
@@mattdajedi Was he though? What are some concrete examples of the Trump Administration making any successful economic decisions, that benefit anything and anyone besides himself and his family? I'm genuinely curious as I cannot recall anything.
@@mattdajedi dont know what trump has to do with it but its true that everything is an economy, always has been
Watching this feels like rll is teaching me how to become a "successful" and "rich" rebel
No, it's just information what you feel like you should do with it, is up to you. You should reword it to, you're easily influenced and now are thinking of becoming a "rich" pirate/rebel
@@Mr3344555 Bro you don't understand simple jokes😓
@@keshavkhandelwal2207 it is part of the joke lmao understand but don't play along
@@Mr3344555 to be fair yours wasn't as funny though
I live next to a highway, I'm going to start my checkpoint in the morning!!
According to some estimates, pirates in 2008 pulled in as much as $150 million, indicating that piracy is now Somalia's biggest industry. In fact, successful pirates are the country's most eligible bachelors. While small-time swashbucklers earn in the low five figures, bosses can pull in $2 million a year-this, in a country where you can buy dinner for less than $1. But as their wallets fatten, many pirates are heading for greener pastures,
In the last few years there are more or less no successful pirate attacks.
so we can expect us led nato invasion in 2023 or 2024 and they have oil and pirates and ukraine russia invasion caused oil price to rise so perfect time for it
@@vedangbarman6392 no, their is already a UN anti piracy mission
@@walli6388 i think pirate attacks arent a thing anymore since the navay coast guards protect international waters meaning safe travel for ships.
one piece does exist
Few geopolitical and history videos are truly eye-opening to me, usually they kind of confirm what I already think. This one was different! It never occurred to me to think how modern day rebels finance themselves, and particularly the part about how Western organizations outsource the payments to avoid the stigma. Thanks for a great video!!
Bribery is always better if you call it something else, like a transit fee...
Make you wondee how much money these western businesses make if they are openly operating in such risky markets. The margins must be incredibly high to be worthwhile.
You really should leave the basement every once in a while...
Agreed
@@BeheadTheGovernment_andReboot I live in a high rise on the 10th floor, so Ha! don't you look the fool :)
living there would rlly open ur eyes to it the civilians been knew how this works and they gained nothing from it the government officials reap all the benefits and western powers dont wanna do anything about it because they make money off of it to fund new weapons for them to buy and kill each other with
Incredibly tragic how Somalia just fell apart. When they got their independence, a number of folks thought they'd be one of the most prosperous young republics in Africa.
It is the conditions Italy, Ethiopia and the UK has brought upon us when they devided our people in 5
@@Adokebab Well, the Soviets meddled in your country too from what I've read. You guys just couldn't catch a break.
@@thunderbird1921 yes as a Somali I really have to agree with you it really is tragic
@@thunderbird1921 don’t forget the Cubans who worked with Ethiopia to take 1/3 of our overall population! And murderer Siad Barre who genocided all tribes other than his….
You can thank Siad Barre for that. A lot of Africa's problems always start where one person thinks he's better than the President...
A lot of non Somali pirates experts here commenting with no knowledge. I'm Somali and piracy has mainly ended when international naval fleets arrived. Unfortunately, now these naval fleets ignore an explosion in illegal fishing. So the receipe of disaster has showed itself again, just awaiting the rains (departure of fleets). The bigger problem is extortion by al-shabab militants on businesses.
I am Somali and I fully agree with you. Its totally exaggerated!
We in the west tend to learn a fact and never check again on it.
If you ask the avarage person, Somali is still the pirate capital, only 4 percent of the ocean ground is known, and we still have no nuclear waste end-dump.
Except, all of this has changed in the last 5-10 years.
@@hansvader4864 Fair enough, because all cultures understands itself better than other ones. But it does get annoying to see demonization of all the Somali pirates, when we consider them to be our heroes. Despite the civil war, all Somali factions respect the pirates, from the government to Alshabab, because all Somalis know why they formed and how they saved us all.
To be completely frank though, it hasn't. The actual incidence rate has just been extremely low as of yet because of International Agreements and Naval Intervention. The U.S Navy still actively catches pirates, but usually they just get let go when their boats get stopped in the act.
Same im somali this is trash crap bro
According to folks that have traveled in that area, they used to be fishermen until the giant commercial fishing corps robbed all the fish. That's why they became pirates.
Somalia also had/has no functioning government so there were little other ways to make money. There was an international effort to eradicate Somalian piracy, together with slightly better prospects Somalians aren't really pirating that much these days.
It's more than that. Not only did the trawlers fish illegally (no navy to stop them), but European waste disposal companies simply dumped off the Somali coast so that any fish that would recover, didn't.
This is so true. The root cause of this problem is: The Western greed of resources.
Other than backing local militia group for robbing mines, ships from European unions started fishing illegally in Somalian waters (Indian ocean) since they had no coastguards. They brought giant fishing vessels and sucked all the fishes meant for Somalian fisherman's. Local Fishermans who went miles farther in the ocean for fishing were only be able to return with 1 or 2 fishes despite spending 14-16 hrs a day. According to an article posted in Huffington post these European ships robbed $300 millions worth of fishes and seafood every year. Not only that, ships from European Unions or so called NATO were dumping huge barrels of Nuclear Wastes in the ocean as it was the cheapest way of getting rid of those than regular mechanism. People suffered strange rashes, skin cancer, lung cancer, nausea and malformed babies. Then, after the 2005 tsunami, hundreds of the dumped and leaking barrels washed up on shore. People began to suffer from radiation sickness, and more than 300 died.
Many of these fishermans were starving to death. They had no options left but to stand up against these unmasked robbers and were forced to take up arms. That's how they started hijacking vessels, demanded ransoms and became pirates. It's been more than a decade nobody has been made accountable for this loot and killing.
Yeah thats the classic/common explanation. In truth it's only a small part of the real complex geopolitical explanation. I saw a video on nebula that went into more detail i think its from polymatter probably available on yt
It's so sad a bot stole ur comment and got more likes
I'm from Somalia and the pirates actually used the money to support the their communities and towns. Thanks for making a video on my home country, love your content lore :)
Is it easy to invest?
kuwan ajaanibka ha barin
@@Someone-mt7mp Too late, am already investing in somali pirates.
Just like Escobar did
@@Nichtzukennen hope you get good returns
That stock footage of firing an RPG has to be the rarest and most perfect use of visuals in an infotainment video I've ever seen. Like, that had to have only ever been downloaded from Shutterstock or whatever one time, by you, for this video.
Imagine being some poor farmer in the Congo and you drive through 30 roadblocks on the way to and from the market to sell your goods.
No wonder the people are so poor; they’re being taxed left and right by not only the government but a bunch of rebels at checkpoints on roads they didn’t even build.
Many of them are fake "christians" and are avoiding heaven so they can suffer for 70 years, religious logic.
I have been to Congo and seen these road blocks infact regular folk sometimes threaten to stone your car or pay them and If you don't pay them they will break every glass on your car
@@fingers8650 They must be desperate for cash.
In other wealthy countries like Japan, UAE, Canada, regular people don’t threaten to break car windows for money.
Money makes life easier.
Check your sources, cause you be consuming dogma. It’s not like US steals their resources totally 💯
@@PROVOCATEURSK People never gave a crap about religion historically, especially when cash is involved, like the Landsknecht who pillaged Rome for cash, they didn't give a crap about scripture like basically everyone. The Germans enjoyed themselves in WW2 by breaking every religious rule ever. Even if some deny it, everyone knows religion is made up nonsense. Being threaten to not go in heaven does not change anything when you don't even believe it exists, may as well exploit the weaklings who do.
Countries during civil wars have weird scenarios. In Somalia, you have entire peaceful territories where businessowners pay 0% in taxes, but then in the contested areas you end up paying taxes to multiple factions simultaneously.
This is eye opening for me... Everything is about money, money, money. I thought some of them terrorist groups are about radical religious, some might be for political agendas and so on but it's just making money.
The truth is, ideals don't fill your belly or buy you weapons.
The practical reality is that groups fighting for ideals believe in those ideas because they see them as a way to make life better for themselves. It’s less about money per se than quality of life. If you’re happy with your job and your house and your stuff, even if you believe in fringe political or religious ideas, you’re not really gonna go start an insurrection. You’ve got too much to lose
Well you can’t eat religion or political agenda, you also can’t shot religion or political agenda you need food and weapon which is paid by money.
On the other hand, if you really thinking hard what is religion? Like really what is religion, isn’t religion just an entity that always demands money? GOD doesn’t need your money, think about it GOD created everything, why does GOD need gold silver or a piece of paper with ink on it? Religion is just about money, so radical religion also just about money.
Religious ideals are merely used to justify. The real goal is money and power.
The one cause all mankind could agree on : fat stacks of cash
I saw the first guy who started all this in Somalia in 2007 , he was retired at that time with a net worth 80 million. He had 4 wives and over 20 children. He told us that he had small fishing company that generates 17 k a year and suddenly Chinese fishing boats started destroying his nets week and week out. Then, he started recruiting his employees and hijacked an illegal Chinese boat in Somali sea near the town of Bosaso in 1998.
The main purpose of navy in south china sea country to vladivostok russia are keeping chinese fishing fleet away from them.
I'm luke skywalker and i say you tell a good story !!!!
When did you see it?
@@bilalabdi9148. 2007 in Bosaso. I don’t know if he still alive.
what a hero
Thanks you for this tutorial, now I can make money using piracy
@@UnkownTH-camr286 Poor guy, you lived in a desert and have no chance of seeing grass. Gonna cry?
@@UnkownTH-camr286 Unfortunately for you, however, you are maidenless.
Taking notes on this one, you never know when you might have to fund a little rebellion or two.
Most of the time tho it’s outside people coming into Somalia’s maritime border and taking their fish or contaminating their waters. Before people say ‘ships gotta go thru the Gulf of Aden’ I agree but the maritime border on the east is theirs.
Facts.
Up to and including Djibouti on the Red Sea is ethnic Somali territory
@@yes619 They may be ethnic Somalis, but I doubt they would even care about being part of Somalia.
In Bangladesh, It also happens. But they are very clever. They only work at night and uses flash light to stop trucks or other vehicles. Then demand high prices for passes. Because of this there is a big price difference of vagetable and other needs between villages and cities.
in india gangs, often charge shopkeepers money to keep them "safe", ironically those groups are supported by political parties and they money they collect is used for election campaign, though its eliminated in BJP rules states bcz ending this makes people like them, and ending this ends oppositions source of income, lol
wow , and the people who suffer are the regular common people
@@nobrakes7892 for any problem they are the sufferers
It happens in very few remote places and if you are a driver alone. Not big of a problem
@@oksowhat wow the place i live in kerala thankfully has none of this
My uncle an ofw and his crew personally experienced being taken hostage by somalian pirates back in the early 2000's, luckily he and his crew was rescued,now he's living happily with my aunt and their 2 wonderful kids
Own fault for illegally coming to somali waters
Yea why ur uncle come ilegly
@@sucaadd3502 He didn't come illegally, sorry for the confusion, the ship he's boarding on happens to pass by the area and the rest is history
I'm so impressed that you bent this video round to such an appropriate relevant advert.
i can’t be the only one who’s always waiting for his posts, amazing throughout the years.
Even tho Talibani checkpoints collect 200k a day, rampant corruption and no written evidence means that individuals can demand high fees for passing and not give the money to higher powers.
"How insurgents make money"
Insurgents: "Write that down! Write that down!"
LOL
9:24 Holy crap realization. So for every "donated" dollar there is a small percentage of it that finances rebel groups perpetuating this whole mess…
Once again great video from Real Life Lore. It's amazing how this guy does his videos alone.
You are right dude
@@UnkownTH-camr286 you dont even have videos
@@isallowed6293 it's a bot
He does not do videos alone. He is just the narrator.
He probably has an editor and a screenwriter... very unlikely that is is a one-man only thing
Somaalieye tooso 🇸🇴
One day Somalia will be prosperous ☝️😭🇸🇴
Once again a good video to watch. Very interesting! You always succeed to make good videos! Keep up the good work.
You can’t pirate your own water territory if you stupid enough to believe this BS.
Imagine Somalis just chilling around the US water territory. 🙃
id love to hear more about these sorts of things that go on in other countries that the west don’t hear about
There's quite a bit that doesn't break into our news much, like the UN mission in the Central African Republic. That place is a disaster similar to Somalia. Chad also had their president die in battle apparently while fighting a rebellion, so who knows what will happen there. African nations like Botswana are incredibly fortunate to have had wise leadership and mostly moral government.
Insurgent in the Philippines were supported by the Catholic church
I can tell you more about how illegal groups gather money.
In my home state drug dealers first banned (by making offers owners "couldn't refuse") all places that sold alcohol illegally (which at the time meant after 11 PM) so that they could control the market. Of course they raised the prices by a huge amount.
Later they cut the curfew to 8pm.
So basically if you want to buy alcohol after 8pm, unless you know any retail store owner, you have to pay them and pay them good.
This is in Mexico by the way, so we count as the west. It affects every government that doesn't happen to own nuclear weapons I suppose.
@@thunderbird1921 It's pretty simplistic to think morals are what makes certain African countries more stable and wealthy than others. There *are* unfortunately lots of immoral actions in the continent, like corruption and oppression, but if it was that simple, it would be a lot easier. Other factors are more important, like local allegiances, clannism, ethnic separatism, disagreements over ressources, alliances, different kinds of elites, laws and more encompassing - the *history* of it. Everything from local relations of the past centuries, to which side of the Cold War they were in, to current problems.
These roadblocks remind me of toll castles from the medieval ages. When the government does not have authority over the population it turns towards controling trade routes.
Yes. The castles were along the Rhine river in what is now Germany. There is one famous one that looks like a ship on an island. They would put heavy chains over the river to prevent ships crossing without paying the toll
@@DieNibelungenliad rivers valleys hill passes... all those were extremely nice natural ways to block and toll... thats how switzerland started. they did tolls on routes from italy to germany
Why go back to the middle ages, we have toll roads everywhere in the present. In France for example the highways are operated by private companies and you have to pay a non-negotiable fee multiple times along the way. For example just going from Bordeaux to Spain you have 3 or 4 tolls, clocking about 20€ for 220 km. The main difference I guess is that these companies are supposed to also maintain the pavement and rest areas in good conditions. Plus they don't threaten you with automatic guns, that's a plus.
Reminds me of the U.S. border patrol checkpoints well inside the United States in Arizona, Texas and I assume New Mexico and California. You have to stop and talk with an officer real quick and they're largely there to catch people human trafficking in their truck trailers.
@@broccoli9308 well if you break the entrance and don’t pay, the police will threaten you with automatic weapons. It is just delayed and hidden.
"rebels use highway tolls to make money" *thinks about the toll booths I constantly go through when commuting to work* "wait a minute..."
Something very similar happens where I live. My father works as an engineer for schools and roads. Sometime after the construction starts they will receive a letter saying something like "For the peaceful continuation of operations pay this amount in cash, before 3/4 months". After sometime a group of men will come to collect the cash. They want it specifically in cash because using the bank makes them traceable. If you don't comply with their demands. They usually set fire to equipment being used in the construction site.
Which country was it?
Damn, its seem something like this is everywhere
Where you from
In certain parts of western cities this is still happening. Local gangs wanting 'protection' money. Thats why in the city centers, small businesses leave !!!! Even if you call the police, the police cant do shit but take useless fingerprints AFTER the crimes !!!!
China: "Belt and Road Initiatives"
Rebels elsewhere: "Its free real estate"
literally proud to be somali
keep the spirit walal
Galkan maogo ina pirateyetha ine damaden o waxyar kusoharen
@@hdhwkq Haa waa runtaa waxba ma oga ninkani
1:30 Thank you RealLifeLore for using the correct map of Somalia, it is very appreciated.
Congratulations u are a country now and recognized by the whole world because of some TH-cam guy
@@wussrestbrook1200 Somaliland is not recognized but is a country, it has been for 30 years. Somalia is recognized but has barely functioned as a country for the last 30 years.
@@Jamal-ub1ko imagine 30 years peace yet hargiesa doesn’t even have a single road😂😂
@@wussrestbrook1200 I think you're confusing Hargeisa (the second largest Somali city) with Bossaso (a small village in Puntland). Hargeisa has many roads and building you can see that on the many videos showing Hargeisa. Bossaso and Garowe don't even have sewage or electricity.
@@wussrestbrook1200 I'm not from either of those place but Somaliland is opposite of what somalia all entails.unlike somalia, the self declared republic of Somaliland is the most peaceful and well governed territory anywhere in the world.
I know that nationalism do suck,but for someone from somalia starting to assert his/her claim over Somaliland when s/he has relatively zero control over his/her own territory of somalia is nothing but a pure buffoonery.
Somaliland has no rebel group within its border, both on land and sea while somalia is a country which is functionally ungovernable and couldn't hold an "election"(which is by itself a selection) for nearly 3 years now after the government mandate expired.
It's imperative that you attend to more pertinent issue in your country like but not limited to piracy,terorism,radical political Islam,corruption, tribal war etc than reducing yourself to a drama siren
Keeping records of the title, First Title is-
*How Pirates, Rebels, & Insurgents Make Money*
@@UnkownTH-camr286 indeed
@@UnkownTH-camr286 Cringyest shit I ever read
That sponsor transition was INCREDIBLY smooth. Well done, Texan.
Road blocks aren't really unconventional, it's been a way to get money since there's been trade.
Welp. Finally got to see a no-holds barred downside to an economic system where most of everything can be semi-legally bought with money. Been a while.
“the entrepreneurial people of harardhere”…honestly! these guys are more business minded than a lot of my mba grad school buddies 😂
when you don't have an organised government and a tax administration that works, checkpoints make sense, not much more different than tax collectors in medieval europe, not sure if the locals end up paying more or less than they would if the government taxed them directly
We have “checkpoints” here in the US as well, we call them tolls
@@UnkownTH-camr286 Omg, you just copypaste this shit?
@@oneone8318
A bot can post in one comment just as easily as it posts in all comments. It's just code.
@@OriginalPiMan i think its copy paste shiť.
@@Founderschannel123
Maybe, but that's a lot more effort, considering just how many times it's been pasted or posted.
Except tolls actually pay for the roads and add value to society,
The DRC will be part of the East African community, which means business interests....which means Tanzania, Kenya ,the two military giants in the region might bring some sense of security
In November 2008, Somali pirates hijacked the Saudi oil tanker Sirius Star, carrying 2m barrels of crude oil worth £68m, in the Indian Ocean
As a Filipina, Ganto pala un meron din samin yan dito sa Pinas lalo na sa probinsya at malalayong isla.
Re: the roadblock example
This even occurs in Skyrim. Bandits with "checkpoints". Thanks, Bethesda.
Never should have come here
yup its in ghost recon wildlands as well, u can see checkpoints of both the private army and the cartel. dont know why the cartel is collecting taxes tho
@@UnkownTH-camr286 If it truly was you wouldn't be begging for subs.
The only difference is I never pay, just go slaughter all the bandits
@@dododareal1218 because more money
Wealth, fame, power.
Gold Roger the king of the pirates obtained this and everything else the
World had to offer. And his dying words drove countless souls to the seas.
“You want my treasure? You can have it! I left everything I gathered
Together in one place. Now you just have to find it! ”
These words lured men to the grand line, pursuing dreams greater than they
Ever dared to imagine. This is the time known as the great pirate era.
Sorry. Just needed to lighten the mood a little bit.
looool op
0:33 I know these groups are genuinely scary and pose threats to "peace" but those two guys totally ran into each other lol
Here in Nigeria in the place where there's no insurgency, it's our Police replacing it. A 10 min drive on the expressway, you can meet up to 10 police checkpoint and sometimes even threaten you with gun or pay. That's new salary bag for a long time
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I remember around 2008/2009, one of my friends, pirates gave him a job he was translated between pirates and ship owners,after they receive 5 million dollars they gave him $200 thousand dollars really it was good days.
I see this happen in my home city. they are not rebel, just some gang member asking for protection fee. Protect from what you ask?... well of course... from the same delinquent.
You really opened my eyes on this one! The world has so many complicated problems.
I want a part 2 where you explain where this money is spent
They give it to capitalists, of course.
Fund their army.
@@eliasziad7864 how exactly do they buy the weapons and training?
@@ShihammeDarc they buy weapons from corrupt soldiers and police and other rebels and criminal syndicates, there is a huge underground arms black market. They get training in various ways, for example they might get it from other terrorist groups and rebels, they might get it from corrupt soldiers, they might infiltrate the military with their own men who will come back and train them, there are even western ex soldiers who will secretly go to these places and train them for a good amount of money or because they sympathize with the ideology.
Beautiful example of how outdated the statism is and that the free market, liberty and self-determination preserve and win.
In the case of Somalia, AMISOM also have check points and are corrupt. Last time my husband was in Xamar, an AMISOM soldier took his expensive smart phone at one of their road blocks. Of course Al-Shabab has check points too. One girl I know was fined for wearing a skirt that was too tight. Then again, I just finished reading Malcolm Gladwell's "Talking to Strangers" - Sandra Bland was ticketed (fined) for failure to signal when merging lanes, and cops pull people over for bullshit reasons all the time. Those are another sort of road block.
Are u a white women, y were u in Somalia
This is also how the Dutch and London stock exchanges started centuries ago.
You know it’s a good day when real life lore and HAI post on the same day
It’s actually pretty cool of Al Shabaab to only make people pay at one of their checkpoints then give them a pass to get through the rest.
Must suck to drive through some rebel groups checkpoint, pay their fee and two minutes later roll up to another checkpoint operated by the same rebel group just to pay again.
So they operate toll roads. Only thing missing is buying a pass online.
@@Kleesmilie Just that they didn't build the road, they just overtook control of it
very nice of them to force you to pay at their checkpoint by making you fear for your life on the others.......
Only thing I can think of. What if I don't want to support them? Can I just turn around? Will I be shot? Probably the latter. F*cking rebell groups
@@TrailsVonMudder Yea I mentioned that in another comment; how a rebel group that didn’t even build the roads have the balls to setup hundreds of checkpoints across a small region and wonder why everyone hates them.
At least Al Shabaab recognize the burden and try to reduce the cost on the population at the expense of their own finances.
Ah nice. Now I finally know what I wanna be when I'm older...
@@UnkownTH-camr286 yeah, mine too...
This is giving me flash backs of driving to Houston.
Takes alot of effort to avoid those tolls
The pirates and rebels learnt their money skills on skillshare.
RLL once again proving why I subscribed in the first place... you love to see it! :D
5:43 I wouldn’t call it a „fragile“ state, instead, I would call it „failed“ state
I just thought u were talking about Somalia, thank god. It was a failed state but not now
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@@Redwan777 That doesn't make sense.
2:03 that is some crazy footage. Imagine being an impoverished young man heading out into the sea on a small boat with a machine gun, not knowing if you’ll return alive.
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Thanks!
Piracy was huge in the late 1990s up until around the early early 2010s as Vessels & Cargo Ships are now allowed to hire armed security guards to patrol the ships and it's cargo. Somalia has always been a tough country to live by and pirates will continue going out into the open ocean. As piracy dwindles there will be a select few who will score big. That's a line of work that will never go away unfortunately regardless of how hard things may get.
Somali pirates only happened because foreign countries kept taking fish from somali waters. You see how one problem leads to another they tried taking advantage of unstable country and it backfired.
@@kh7736 It was bound to happen regardless. I know that Japan has taken fish from many African countries including Somalia which has the longest coastline on Africa. Sad though.
@@anthonyg.4785 I was seen many documentarys where foreign countries take advantage of a unstable nation which then intensifies the problem even more. It might have happened either way but not to the scale we saw.
There hasn’t been a pirate since 2017 it’s more west africa for pirates now
Ngl this guy makes one of the best videos
Piracy has a whole new meaning now.
EPICMAN IS GARBAGE 😂😂 I MAKE BETTER VIDS
@@UnkownTH-camr286 You don’t even have videos on your channel lol.
This video is making me rethink my career.
Better returns than the stock market making me like hmmmm
In Somalia’s capital, until 2012, Al shabab literally had control over a portion on the city and everyone was just used to it and living with it. Imagine Wall Street vein parliament, and anything above Central Park was al shabab ran territory
@@noodleooodle4098 they actually ran the whole capital and most of Somalia at some point. They lost their last major city in 2014. There was a time the government controlled only one city while the capital was controlled by war lords.
@@noodleooodle4098 1995? AS didnt exist then, it was clash of clans meets the purge then, it was in 2006 that Islamists took Mogadishu which AS being their special ops after the invasion of Ethiopia, the Islamists splintered and only two groups remained, one being AS who then absorbed the other group. Why are you relatives shook of a group they didnt even witness and are miles away from? Either you're capping or you dont know basic Somali history.
@@basedblackbeard4456 You caught him red handed! He probably just wants views for his channel. Stop embarrassing the brother like that lmaooo
@@kandarabi927 😂😂😂 His name says it all, ain't no self respecting Somali calling himself "Noodle Ooodle".
2:04 most beautiful pronunciation ever. Love the vids 💖
alternative title. "How to become a pirate beginners guide."
RLL videos and Promotions are a match made in heaven
Western countries do have road blocks which you have to pay to go through in highways. The money goes normally to corruption too
Now I know how to make a living after society finishes collapsing. Thanks!
This sounds just like a order tax.
But the borders are unorginized, constantly change, and are unofficial/not national borders.
It's the state of Nature. And why Anarchy would never work.
@@shorewall You mean "it's the nature of State", robery and taxation of everything peaceful people produce. Not a single difference from any modern state method.
@@vitumalatesta no it's definitely the state of nature. Governments don't rise in a vacuum, people automatically create tribes and groups which eventually become governments. It's why anarchism is a silly childish idea, people are tribal animals not free spirits. In the absence of government there will only be constant conflict between different tribes until one of them win and become the government
Sweet transition to your sponsors as always, nice
i agree
In order to live the good life you're gonna have to do something morally incorrect
I love it how RealLifelore recognizes Somaliland as an independent state 1:40😃
If only the british and the french did not close their eyes and draw some random lines in the map
You are my favorite channel when I’m ready to relax at night m. Great content!
They should pitch this on shark tank
I have watched his videos casually for a few years. This has been my favorite. I feel like an idiot for subscribing today, and not before.
The Somali pirates are my heroes. They exist cause the world f*cked over a small group of people and they fought back and won. yes, they've become a criminal organization now, but how they started, they had a right to defend their livelihoods and waters.
They fear music
Reminds me of City Skylines where you can make a lot more money by placing lots of toll gates instead of building a working city, but I never thought this could work in real life xD
The silk road was also a place for hordes to pillage too.
Thanks for telling us how to thrive post-civilization reboot.
2:57 Flooded with expensive luxury cars which will need expensive imported parts to keep going, because the residents chose to spend their windfall returns on looking rich. Most of the money went right back to the developed countries who paid the ransoms. The local importers, salesmen, truck drivers, and mechanics earned most of the capital that didn’t depart Somalia with the sale of the expensive luxury vehicles.
A poor mindset spend their windfall on a luxury car, and sets little to nothing aside for expensive parts and service to keep it going. Poor mindsets make up poor countries, countries mainly stay poor because of the citizens poor mindsets. This has nothing to do with resources or formal education levels just the lack of clean applicable knowledge.
Cheers for the tutorial, would love to try it some time
I strongly believe that pirates make money by finding treasures and a video can't convince me otherwise.
As a Somalian pirate myself I can confirm this is true. But instead of looking for treasure in the traditional way by searching into different islands, we look for treasures in floating irons that happens to be passing by our waters.
Keep in mind all of those check points and roadblocks kill tourism and investment no matter the country
Fun fact a lot of Somali pirates used to be fishers but because illegal fishers and fishing companies started forcing them out of their waters they became pirates and started taxing and demanding fees for them being there
Wait until RealLifeLore learns about highway tolls!!! His mind will blow up.