Another brilliant pedal review which doesn't dwell too long on the unboxing but crucially provides insightful side-by-side comparisons with other Shimano MTB pedals greatly assisting in helping yiu make an informed choice. Oh, and camera work excellent, as ever 👌
It would be great to have a video of all the pedals from the entry level to the XTR explaining the differences between each and which you feel offers the best value for money. From a quick look at them it's easy to come to the conclusion that the only differences are a little bit of weight. Great video by the way 👊.
I have the 540s and a set of XT’s and am not sure I really feel a difference. Maybe, the clipping in on the XT’s is a little smoother but I am not sure I just want to think this is due the more $$$s I paid. I like them both and have not had any issues with either. Great vid
The PD-M9100s have a well known issue of axle seals slipping out and failing to stay in --- so water/dirt ingress is inevitable. I'm on my 4th warranty set.
2 years on -3mm version, ~16k km My best pedals so far. The difference in stack height (between this and M8100 XT on my second bike) is noticeable. No issues at all.
@@dosserkelly smaller Q- factor on mtb. That was the idea. I think for a gravel bike You can buy standart xtr pedals. Because with shorter axles it will be too narrow.
I never scrimp on pedals. They take a hammering and we need them to work! I’ll be trying these M9120 XTR. At a cool £140 per pair. Thanks for the review.
Interesting expose' on the XTR. Will have to update my listing with more specifics (am including that XTR pair, brand new, as a freebee with a Hyperlite wheelset from Muller of Germany on Pinkbike and eBay). Thanks for this video, MTB.
Nice video,I use Time ATAC pedals because they of the float and pedal durability and the bindings are better than Shimano but I had M520 and they where good.Safe riding.💯👌🏻✌🏻
Use the M9100 short axle -3mm as I come from the road originally. The seal/gasket issue is less predominant on the short axle version. (Still came out on left axle, not on right after 1000s km) I find the finishing and tolerances on the XTR superior to XT. Put a Hex Key in the XT axle and compare to XTR. There is absolutely nothing wrong with XT, robust, just a bit bulkey and bearings not as smooth. Very happy with the XTR pedals.
Great review of a great product but I bought XT pedals after watching a couple of your videos because I don't care that much about a 10-15 grams difference for each pedals. The biggest advantage I guess would be the lower stack height for XTR but it's not worth it to me since I always end up changing pedals after 3-4 years.
About the axle lengths, I am planning to replace my cranks that are too wide q factor for me, would it work with shorter axle pedals instead and keep the cranks? Cranks are M5100 I would go for narrower M6100. Great video as always with details about seals, bearings etc.!
Great vid. I mostly use PD-M8000 340 g pedals. For my lightest bikes I use old Ritchey Paradigm V5 pedals, WCS 240 g and PRO 260 g, both using CroMo axels. The Ritchey's are tricker to get in-and-out of compared to the XT's so for general trail riding I definitely prefer the feel of Shimano pedals.
The problem with that Richey lineup is that can't handle rock strikes, and because both sides are connected, if you break the little tab holding the spring tension on one side, the other side doesn't work either. I also found it difficult to get high enough spring tension with the WCS line and there's less platform than Shimano.
@@alexdi1367 I agree with all your findings on the old Paradigm V5 lineup. Current Ritchey WCS have more durable design (similar to XT/XTR), but has also gained weight, now 305 g.
Feliz año 2023. Tengo los XTR y los XT; ambos excepcionales; muy buenos pedales, fiables y sin ningún problema. Puedes hacer un vídeo de cambio de la jaula de un cambio sram GX AXS?? Gracias.
I have been using the XTR pedals and XTR trail and I have never had any issues with them even after years of use. I wonder if the seals coming off maybe it related to the rider and not the Pedals. I do use XT for training, but XTR for long rides.
@LoveMtb i would like to THANK YOU for all the tips and for answering of all my question regarding on building a dream bike.FINALY I finished building my AM mtb i was happy bcoz i acctually do it my self. Godbless you and more blessing to your channel. I wish i could send you a photo or even video.cheers guys see on the trail ❤️❤️
Frustrating that we/the owners have to fix these £100+ set of XTR pedals that have the seal creep issue due to a another bad Shimano design. Had XTR 980/9000 and no issues at all but the 9100 are terrible. Once the grease leaks out the bearings develop lots of play. On my 3rd warranty set but Shimano won't warranty again. Manufacturing defect that they refused to fix or acknowledge. I don't want sticky tape on the spindle of a premium/top of the range product and shouldn't have to.
I am on Xpedo MT 8s which are lighter, but as you hinted, Shimano Pedals are superior when it comes to reliability. Bearings on my Xpedos don't last. The problem here is fine grit, like cement dust from decomposing rock which wears down the seals and kills the bearings. Otherwise the Pedals held up well after some really hefty pedal strikes. But yeah, Shimanos next time.
@John Brown I got the steel axle versions, titanium is not stiff enough for that application imo. And yes, the release action is definitely not as smooth and refined as Shimano. I also had to trim the edges of the cleat opening from my shoes to avoid getting hung up in the Pedals.
I have xt pedals from aliexpress, they say that this is a fake, but I have already skated more than one thousand km on them already and everything is ok
A timely reminder that the second-from-top product line is 99% of the time, a better choice - cheaper, more robust and almost always just as featured as the “top” product. In comparing the heaviest pedals available, to the lightest, the difference in weight is simply not a thing, it makes zero performance difference.
Another brilliant pedal review which doesn't dwell too long on the unboxing but crucially provides insightful side-by-side comparisons with other Shimano MTB pedals greatly assisting in helping yiu make an informed choice.
Oh, and camera work excellent, as ever 👌
I've been using a pair of Shimano XT PD-M8000 for year and I have nothing but good words about them. Great review keep up the good work!
Happy new 2023. My first pedals were M520, upgraded to XTR's and now use only those both on my MTB and road bike. Last longer. No issues whatsoever.
I just received my new pedals, they ooze quality. Such well made tools. Just awaiting the multi release cleats now and all will be good.
I agree they ooze quality! BTW get a silicone ring and install on the spindle so it keeps that seal in its place 😉
It would be great to have a video of all the pedals from the entry level to the XTR explaining the differences between each and which you feel offers the best value for money. From a quick look at them it's easy to come to the conclusion that the only differences are a little bit of weight. Great video by the way 👊.
I have the 540s and a set of XT’s and am not sure I really feel a difference. Maybe, the clipping in on the XT’s is a little smoother but I am not sure I just want to think this is due the more $$$s I paid. I like them both and have not had any issues with either. Great vid
The PD-M9100s have a well known issue of axle seals slipping out and failing to stay in --- so water/dirt ingress is inevitable. I'm on my 4th warranty set.
@@LoveMTB yes, no luck, water and dirt ingress kills the pedals. It's a fundamental design flaw.
Use a 9/16 high grade silicone O-ring at the end issue solved trick or the trade happy trails
Thank you for an excellent, thorough review! I have an older set of Time Atac pedals and will replace them with Shimano Xtr.
I'm still using them today, great pedals!
2 years on -3mm version, ~16k km My best pedals so far. The difference in stack height (between this and M8100 XT on my second bike) is noticeable. No issues at all.
Hey im thinking of getting these for my gravel bike - Can you tell me what is the difference between the standard and the 3mm short version?
@@dosserkelly smaller Q- factor on mtb. That was the idea. I think for a gravel bike You can buy standart xtr pedals. Because with shorter axles it will be too narrow.
Whoah! Love the new production and lighting! 👌 (I guess new mic too?)
I never scrimp on pedals. They take a hammering and we need them to work! I’ll be trying these M9120 XTR. At a cool £140 per pair.
Thanks for the review.
Enjoy! Pedals are very important I agree 👍
Interesting expose' on the XTR. Will have to update my listing with more specifics (am including that XTR pair, brand new, as a freebee with a Hyperlite wheelset from Muller of Germany on Pinkbike and eBay). Thanks for this video, MTB.
Nice video,I use Time ATAC pedals because they of the float and pedal durability and the bindings are better than Shimano but I had M520 and they where good.Safe riding.💯👌🏻✌🏻
Use the M9100 short axle -3mm as I come from the road originally. The seal/gasket issue is less predominant on the short axle version. (Still came out on left axle, not on right after 1000s km)
I find the finishing and tolerances on the XTR superior to XT. Put a Hex Key in the XT axle and compare to XTR. There is absolutely nothing wrong with XT, robust, just a bit bulkey and bearings not as smooth. Very happy with the XTR pedals.
Hey im thinking of getting these for my gravel bike - Can you tell me what is the difference between the standard and the 3mm short version?
Great review of a great product but I bought XT pedals after watching a couple of your videos because I don't care that much about a 10-15 grams difference for each pedals. The biggest advantage I guess would be the lower stack height for XTR but it's not worth it to me since I always end up changing pedals after 3-4 years.
Great detailed information. Interested in seeing your new bike project. Epic Evo !!
Hoping you post a video of the bike once completed
i had this. the seal keeps popping out after each ride for some reason.
About the axle lengths, I am planning to replace my cranks that are too wide q factor for me, would it work with shorter axle pedals instead and keep the cranks? Cranks are M5100 I would go for narrower M6100. Great video as always with details about seals, bearings etc.!
Great vid. I mostly use PD-M8000 340 g pedals. For my lightest bikes I use old Ritchey Paradigm V5 pedals, WCS 240 g and PRO 260 g, both using CroMo axels. The Ritchey's are tricker to get in-and-out of compared to the XT's so for general trail riding I definitely prefer the feel of Shimano pedals.
The problem with that Richey lineup is that can't handle rock strikes, and because both sides are connected, if you break the little tab holding the spring tension on one side, the other side doesn't work either. I also found it difficult to get high enough spring tension with the WCS line and there's less platform than Shimano.
@@alexdi1367 I agree with all your findings on the old Paradigm V5 lineup. Current Ritchey WCS have more durable design (similar to XT/XTR), but has also gained weight, now 305 g.
Feliz año 2023.
Tengo los XTR y los XT; ambos excepcionales; muy buenos pedales, fiables y sin ningún problema.
Puedes hacer un vídeo de cambio de la jaula de un cambio sram GX AXS?? Gracias.
love the new studio
@@LoveMTB agreed super nice!
very helpful! thank you!
Glad to help
I have been using the XTR pedals and XTR trail and I have never had any issues with them even after years of use. I wonder if the seals coming off maybe it related to the rider and not the Pedals. I do use XT for training, but XTR for long rides.
@LoveMtb i would like to THANK YOU for all the tips and for answering of all my question regarding on building a dream bike.FINALY I finished building my AM mtb i was happy bcoz i acctually do it my self.
Godbless you and more blessing to your channel.
I wish i could send you a photo or even video.cheers guys see on the trail ❤️❤️
Do you mean a silicon ring that you would wear on your finger? Do you a link?
More like an o-ring, small tiny from Amazon. You can find them in a box of 100 in different sizes, the ones I got were red in color
Lol...I've been using my new xtr pedals for about a month and didn't realize there were cleats in the box!
😎
Frustrating that we/the owners have to fix these £100+ set of XTR pedals that have the seal creep issue due to a another bad Shimano design. Had XTR 980/9000 and no issues at all but the 9100 are terrible. Once the grease leaks out the bearings develop lots of play. On my 3rd warranty set but Shimano won't warranty again. Manufacturing defect that they refused to fix or acknowledge. I don't want sticky tape on the spindle of a premium/top of the range product and shouldn't have to.
Bontrager has clipless pedals that use a shimano clip and are lighter then xtr and like 2-3 times cheaper.
I am on Xpedo MT 8s which are lighter, but as you hinted, Shimano Pedals are superior when it comes to reliability. Bearings on my Xpedos don't last. The problem here is fine grit, like cement dust from decomposing rock which wears down the seals and kills the bearings. Otherwise the Pedals held up well after some really hefty pedal strikes. But yeah, Shimanos next time.
@John Brown I got the steel axle versions, titanium is not stiff enough for that application imo.
And yes, the release action is definitely not as smooth and refined as Shimano.
I also had to trim the edges of the cleat opening from my shoes to avoid getting hung up in the Pedals.
@@LoveMTB yes, if I need to replace, I will go Shimano.
What are your thoughts about using these for a gravel bike?
Probably perfectly fine many use SPD pedals for gravel
I’ve been running SPD pedals for “gravel” for about a decade.
@@thecappy Yup just fine and I prefer them over the road cleats any day
I have xt pedals from aliexpress, they say that this is a fake, but I have already skated more than one thousand km on them already and everything is ok
@@LoveMTB
can you tell me why it's fake? they obviously made the box for me) but the pedals themselves work fine
@@Danil-Crypto как повезет, но палёные шимано педали на али есть 100%. У меня самого 540е как поддельные, так и настоящие есть оттуда.
@@LoveMTB 520 shimano here they often fake them)
@@RomanE_____ да кстати 520 и 540 чаще всего подделывают
Hi, are the XT models just as long as the XTR or are they shorter?
XTR have more options, XT never shorter/ narrower Q-factor
@@LoveMTB thank you
Can I use sh-56 cleats on these pedals if it says for sh-51
Definitely
@@LoveMTB so why is the box marked for sh51
A timely reminder that the second-from-top product line is 99% of the time, a better choice - cheaper, more robust and almost always just as featured as the “top” product. In comparing the heaviest pedals available, to the lightest, the difference in weight is simply not a thing, it makes zero performance difference.
TIME forever😋
Great video but I ride with flat pedals so this is all new to me.
@@LoveMTB Curious about them but I’ve invested quite a bit already into flat style shoes.
Todos los pedales de shimano son de fiar y muy buenos
Lose weight of your body is cheaper than XTR pedal and the benefits is great
Seal issue - no go
Easy fix, use a silicon o-ring on the axle - problem solved!
Why would I want to lose weight? I already have 6 percent body fat? Not!