I've sent out invitations to Terrence Howard to come on the podcast in various ways prior to this recording. Love to have him on. Unfortunately, there's been no response so far. If you know Terrence Howard, the invite is open. - Curt
Also Robert Edward grant. He’s a mathematician who’s found the locations within natural geometry of all the known math constants in work derived from Walter Russell’s.
either your slow or willfully ignorant...u know damn well he talking about frequency when he talks about tone...all chemistry is frequency at its base...so a vibration frequency set at the same as the chemical will excite it...ie you get 30% more hydrogen when you induce sound vibration set to the same frequency as hydrogen during the electrolysis process.... facts it has been done..
Thank you for taking him seriously. He might be completely wrong, but he’s definitely not ‘crazy’, which is how many others are painting him to be. While I’m thankful of you 2, you’re simply reiterating conventional physics and chemistry which he’s challenging. I think the only way to ‘debunk’ him is to understand his point of view first. So thank you for extending the invitation.
This is Terrence Howard… I was specifically referencing the prime resident frequency of hydrogen, carbon, silicone, and cobalt, and rhodium that they all lie within the same spectral lines on a spectrometer that tones where the key of E as in music based on a Pythagorean 32 as space I wasn’t talking about GEV’s or VEE or any of those other things I’m not talking about energy beyond energy represented in oscillations or in frequency. Attempt to have someone on your show to talk about what I’ve said without inviting me there to defend what I’ve said. It’s sort of a serpentine way of dealing with a situation. I would love to meet up with him and you and have a conversation on my channel.
We appreciate ALL your work Mr. Howard... The host says he has been trying to contact you for a debate on the topic with the professor. Hope y'all can set it up. It Would be amazing
Sorry, they both don’t understand that “Key of E” refers to music? They decided he meant something else…? No, he said what he meant, guys: “Key of E”. The frequency associated with the note E, which doubles at every octave of E.
I agree. I think this is how they discredit people with information that disrupts the power structure. The pretend that they don't understand and don't get it so it must be false information
Kev....Gev? No the key of E, as in the frequency that if you keep doubling will eventually end up as a frequency in the visible spectrum, with a corresponding colour that has nothing to do with the aesthetics of the element, nor how you burn it 🤷
He's arranging the periodic table based on frequency, not atomic mass. He doesn't say the periodic table is wrong, just that there are different relationships between the elements based on frequency rather than mass.
Relative mass is a relative accumulation of motion, which has its own frequency, color, geometry etc, depending on that accumulation, and position within the wave octave. According to Walter Russell
the point is terrance did not create that periodic table it was created by walter russell 90% of what terrance was saying was already known, what he said new was the flower of life stuff
@@DadeMurphie according to Russell’s understanding of reality. If you got any counter arguments I’d love to hear. Plenty of “he’s wrong” without any specific arguments out there. Pretty much all of them actually
@@BoogieBoogsForever He may be ON something - or he may need to be.... but his thoughts are stream of consciousness psedoscientificobabble, nothing more
it speaks to a tremendous failure on the part of our country's public education system. Anyone who took and passed basic introductory science and math courses in high school *should* be able to see that what TH said in the JRE interview was literally nonsense... totally disconnected from an understanding of even the most basic concepts of chemistry and mathematics. Just utter horseshit drivel... like the scribblings of a schizophrenic. That there is a sizeable number of functioning adults that can't recognize this and think TH is on to some new groundbreaking understanding of reality is deeply concerning, and it's a condemnation of our society. We have big problems.
You just need a high school physcist. I mean when a guy says he knows more than Einstein at age 6 because he learned it in a prior life, that's when you call the guys with the white coats to come get him.
Terrance said there's no straight lines in the universe To prove that you have look at fibinachi sequences. The building blocks of everything. Since there are no straight lines. That blows all the math to pieces. Terrance is right
That what teachers/professors do, motivate instead of just telling you what are your mistakes. He tells you about logical holes in your thoughts while telling you that you even think about that stuff in your own way is a good start
@@unclefry7147Anyone can say anything. How can it ever be proved though? There was a very interesting case of a 10 year old girl who kept telling her mother about dreams she kept having about a certain place...her mother couldn't make sense of it so she started researching everything her daughter kept telling her..that eventually led to her finding the place and home in her dreams and it turned out to be the home of a family who lost their daughter to a tragic car accident. That could be reincarnation or remembering a past life...but we have no real way to prove it. Terrance knows this so I wouldn't take anything he says seriously.
I am not a scientist or anything remotely close. I have only a Bachelor of Arts Degree in Literature, and even I know that within the first minute of the interview Terrence had with Joe Rogan, he's clearly talking about sound/pitch/frequencies/MUSIC! He is not talking about "energy." He literally uses the terms "tone" and "hertz." I'm shocked that the host and his guest did not pick up on this during their reaction to the interview.
He's talking to a chemist, not a musician. The chemist is just going to explain the elemental chemistry that Terrance has decided not to learn. They refer to the music claim as an allegory and Terrance's explanation as confusing and wrong.
There is a history of hiding and intentionally misleading to protect some informations from getting to the masses and changing thought patterns. They have done this against Einstein. Insulting him and all. It may have one of those unintended consequences the overlords are worried about us. If I see more smear tactics than just informing the public I become suspicious.
I don’t understand why they are being so gracious to talk about Terrence Howard’s rantings as if they made any sense whatsoever. And I don’t think it’s an ad hominem to say that so-called “Terryology” (that’s literally what Terrence calls his “science”) is beyond stupid. Seriously, Professor Dave Explains podcast on this topic said it BEST.
These gentlemen are just being unnecessarily kind instead of straightforward. You can’t make it make sense. It’s a discourtesy to the public to entertain the gibberish he (TH) so confidently pushes out, he’s a great actor. I’ll give him that.
@@nkoppa5332 No. Ir's not closeminded to be accurate. 5 + 5 is ten. It's not closeD minded to not entertain someone saying 5 + 5 is 11. Or green. You need to grow up and become more precise.
Because they are two professionals being respectful. It would be easy to just dismiss TH with names and ridicule but instead they entertain his.. 'theories' with scientific rigour. They certainly don't owe him anything and could better occupy their time on more pressing issues, but educating the public is also important.
@@Moondogg111 1x1 does sound silly but i would like someone to first define multiplication and see if it conforms . It might be an anomaly to the rule that needs to be explained
I was looking everywhere for an intellectual analysis of his reasoning so thank you for taking the time to put this together and teach us Level 1-2 folks a little from a chemistry standpoint!!
@@technoweasel8937 In many cases it's just a simple matching of feminine/masculine sounding words with a corresponding pronoun. For example, in English we know a name like Anna is feminine, so we could say banana, drama, and mascara are all feminine too. It's unrelated to sex in that a cobra could be a feminine animal, but a male cobra is still a boy. Sometimes words can switch gender in their diminutive/augmentative forms so a masculine warrior may become a feminine mega-warrior. Still, I am not sure how an element can be bi/hetero/homosexual, any more than a table can be.
I’ve never seen someone trying so hard to not call someone stupid that they convinced themselves that the subject was actually intelligent. Saying that 1 times 1 equals 2 isn’t sharp or creative. It’s the definition of ignorance
The musical note E corresponds to different frequencies (in Hertz) depending on the octave in which it is played. Here are the frequencies for various octaves: Musical note E as played on a piano - E0: 20.60 Hz - E1: 41.20 Hz - E2: 82.41 Hz - E3: 164.81 Hz - E4: 329.63 Hz (This is the E above middle C, often referred to as E4) - E5: 659.25 Hz - E6: 1318.51 Hz - E7: 2637.02 Hz - E8: 5274.04 Hz These frequencies double with each ascending octave. The most commonly referenced E is E4, which has a frequency of 329.63 Hz. Terrance is just correlating the periodic table with a musical construct
It's not Terrances idea. It comes from Walter russel. The tone thing has validity but he didn't even explain it right. Walter russel wasn't talking about the sound we think is sound. He was talking about how gravity has octaves of compression and expansion. And these elements are at different stages of that. He likened it to the way sound works in the sense that air escaping produces a sound. Well matter has energy escalating and that produces a signature. They aren't literal keys like on a piano.
And it has nothing to do with the periodic table. That is why Russel who was an artist was also wrong. I think I can explain this: Terrence says the Arizona Cardinals are the #1 team. You then say according to their record they are 4 wins and 13 losses and one of the worst teams. But you are looking at it wrong. They are #1 alphabetically. That's kinda what he is doing but then you realize he isn't using the NFL standings, he uses theor alphabetical order to explain why Arizona Cardnials are the #1 Hockey team instead of football. When you try to correct him by saying "wtf"... a bunch of people who know nothing about NFL or NHL say he isn't wrong you don't understand his genius.
@@laartwork No, he wasn't wrong. Terrance is a fucking actor who can't even do basic multiplication, or knows the difference between frequency and wavelength. Stop simping
@@laartwork don't mistake Russels brilliance with Howard's ignorance. Russel never said the periodic table was the same as music we produce in atmosphere
idk what part you're referencing, but light can be described in wavelengths and turned into sound, i.e., sound waves; hence, you can turn the frequency of any color light into sound or at least an octave or tone that we humans can perceive.
he's basically shifting frequency of color to audible frequency so visible colors irc are in terahertz so divide by 2 until you are in audible Hz or Khz frequency and he's assigning that to elements it's unclear to me how does it get color of element in first place because spectrogram of element has many lines with different colors like mentioned in this video.
Corect. He is talking about sound and the fact that it's frequency has correspondences with colours. There is a medical condition called Synesthesia where sounds trigger a person to see colours.
Two things are important in science: Describe your procedure and the results in such a way that others can reproduce it (experiment). Describe a formalism that reliably and repeatably predicts the results from the initial situation (theory). Nothing Terrence Howard says has anything to do with one or the other.
One man is at the frontier of discovery, having an adept understanding and relationship with the elements. The other is at the frontier of mastery, having an in-depth understanding of concepts and ideas already established by other men. One is attempting to be a revolutionary, the other is happy to be a conduit, passing established information down to younger generations.
No one is as you said, conduit to you get generations. The other is a conman who lied about his patents, his credentials, and copied Walter Russels theory while mixing it up with a bunch of nonsense. The tone thing has validity but he didn't even explain it right. Walter russel wasn't talking about the sound we think is sound. He was talking about how gravity has octaves of compression and expansion. And these elements are at different stages of that. They aren't literal keys like on a piano.
@@joshuam4993 yea he was fact checked about a lot of things he said and they were lies. Its amazing how no one brings up how he not only believed he had the power "to destroy mankind" but he was "considering" it. LOL
he didn't say keV, he said key of E. the clue is the frequency i am not saying any of this makes sense here are all the Es on a piano, with their frequencies E0 (subcontra octave): 20.60 Hz E1 (contra octave): 41.20 Hz E2 (great octave): 82.41 Hz E3 (small octave): 164.81 Hz E4 (one-line octave, middle E): 329.63 Hz E5 (two-line octave): 659.26 Hz E6 (three-line octave): 1318.51 Hz E7 (four-line octave): 2637.02 Hz E8 (five-line octave): 5274.04 Hz E9 (six-line octave): 10548.08 Hz E10 (seven-line octave): 21096.16 Hz E11 (eight-line octave): 42192.33 Hz
Key, not note of E. A key is the group of pitches, or scale, that forms the basis of a musical composition. E major is a major scale based on E, consisting of the pitches E, F♯, G♯, A, B, C♯, and D♯.
Physicists still don’t know what light is and they still don’t know what consciousness is. They can describe their qualities of off observational characteristics but don’t know how either work or exist at all. Walter Russell’s work was an attempt to explain both in great detail. 3rd graders understand atoms are particles that are just really really teeny tiny. That’s all this chemist knows about them too except he can recite all the different ones and their characteristics provided by other limited understandings of what a particle of matter is. The term “particle” is a lazy convenient way of describing a system of wave actions. Limited intellects can only think of particles as solid objects so that’s how they teach it and how most conceive it. To comprehend the wave aspects of particles isn’t that great of a leap. Waves are expressed in curvature. This curvature is expressed as spiral vortices not “up and down” curved two dimensional lines. Waves are a function of electrical/magnetic forces. The foundation of what this electricity and magnetism really is, is what Russell explained in his work. When you understand these fundamentals, you can then properly manipulate the structures these fundamentals create and how they interact with each other. Once humanity makes this leap, very little will be impossible and there will never be scarcity of anything.
@@charlesp7504No that's not how it works, physics is NOT just about characteristic but about MECHANISM, that's the whole reason why we are able to build technology. You see, engineers put things together in creative ways, but those parts are based on sound theoretical groundwork done prior by scientists working in materials science, physics etc. Whatever device you're using to post your comment, be it a phone, laptop, whatever, it's essentially a computer. All computers use processors which are packed with transistors. A transistor is based precisely on a SOUND understanding of electricity, of the flow of electrons, and how to control that flow to create a switch which can act as a conductor in one direction, and a resistor in the other. Semiconductors are doped silicon, so basically silicon that is treated to have desired characteristics because those desired characteristics provide the proper MECHANISM for the flow of electrons as understood by the theoretical groundwork laid out by physicists.
all of you knowitall commenters in these channels... you are like drivers in cars. like 90% of you think you are doing it right, and you actually suck at it.
@@amonnanjaku Yes, paradigms will change but forms of capitalism will always exist. Even in the strictest communist countries, people still try to figure out ways they can trade labor for more food and basic necessities. If freedom of being survives, innovation will still be motivated by reward. If freedom of being doesn’t survive and totalitarianism determines allocation of resources, then it doesn’t matter how much abundance exists as those resources will be utilized for coercion and control which is the threshold we’re in now. Capitalism isn’t the devil in this world, the devils are and they like power and control and in no way would they want to share anything with billions of peasants when they could have a whole world to themselves.
Love how you both approached this, both open-minded and trying to understand. Would be great to see you guys interviewing Terrence and help him articulate his idea better
Yet they are not very embracing of the arts at all. I take that back. // For some reason the NEED to distance themselves FORM the arts (in relation to their scientific work. And their very IDENTY as men of science.) Same thing the way the ancient Sufi mystics spoke of the Aether of Space, yet I've spoke to nuclear physicsts from Los Alamos Labs (I'm a Classical pianist from New Mexico), and they would just sort of laugh-off the concept of The Aether as some sort of archaic voodoo. Modern science literally lives in fear of it's bubble being popped at any moment! (See me at: _The Acoustic Rabbit Hole_)
They were by no means open minded and trying to understand. They were dismissive and condescending only to make you do the same thing. That’s very disingenuous and dishonest and a slap to your face.
Absolutely not open minded. Are you kidding? Those of us who listened to the 3 hour conversation could instantly tell Lee was just chiming in Willy Nilly on a clip he was sent. Furthermore, a so called expert chemist not even being remotely familiar with the “key of E” was a bit alarming to me. Wait a minute, dude, you never had an elementary school music class and you’re an esteemed chemist? Haha, ok man, you probably need to get out of the lab for a while.
To all my fellow stupid people tuning in... :) As soon as they missed the reference to "Key of E', did you feel slightly smarter than everyone else in the room?? I felt superior in that moment.
Absorption spectrum of an element is a function of the number of electrons in the atom. This absorption spectrum is correlated to a specific frequency of light. A musical note is correlated to frequencies of sound waves. The musical note of A is correlated with a frequency of 440Hz. The frequency spectrum of hydrogen is correlated with wavelengths of 410 nm (violet), 434 nm (blue), 486 nm (blue-green), and 656 nm (red). Here’s what I think Terence is doing. Both musical notes and elements are correlated with one or more frequencies. In music theory terms it’s possible for two different tones to be the same note, but an octave apart. E.g., a tone of 440Hz and 880Hz are both the note of A, but an octave apart. So, what if something similar is happening with the elements? Of course, elements are different and the way they work will not be the same as musical notes work. Hydrogen is correlated to multiple frequencies. So, applying the same logic to elements would be a mistake. But the hypothesis of Terence is that there is a property of atoms (elements) that can be scaled (e.g. x2, like in musical notes) and you would end up with the same element, but different. Different frequencies but the same element. Just like music. In music terms it’s perfectly fine to call two different tones the same note. Our music tradition/theory can support this. Our physics theory cannot support this argument. It might be perfectly reasonable to hypothesize that elements work in the “same” way that musical notes do. But we lack the theory of physics to explain why it would. Terence’s hypothesis lacks a clear explanation of why we should look at elements in this way though. What is the benefit of thinking like this? But, I would like to compare it to Copernicus and his theory that the earth rotated around the sun. In 1543 why would it matter that the earth rotates around the sun and not the other way around? To me the idea of Terence is worthy of scientific research.
His claims doesn't make much sense because there is a multitude of frequencies emitted be every element. Therefore I haven't put too much time into this. Hydrogen: The most prominent emission line is the Balmer series, especially the H-alpha line at approximately 656.3 nm, 4.57×10144.57×10^14 Hz. Carbon: The prominent lines are in the visible spectrum around 658.0 nm (C II) and 723.1 nm (C I), 4.56×10144.56×10^14 Hz and 4.15×10144.15×10^14 Hz. Silicon: Prominent lines are at 251.6 nm (Si I) and 288.1 nm (Si II), 1.19×10151.19×10^15 Hz and 1.04×10151.04×10^15 Hz. Cobalt: Prominent lines include 345.4 nm (Co I) and 412.1 nm (Co I), 8.68×10148.68×10^14 Hz and 7.28×10147.28×10^14 Hz. Rhodium: Rhodium does not have prominent lines in the visible spectrum, but significant lines are in the UV range, such as 343.5 nm and 369.2 nm, 8.73×10148.73×10^14 Hz and 8.12×10148.12×10^14 Hz. While there are some close matches and potential octave relationships, the frequencies do not consistently align to suggest that they represent the same musical note across different octaves. The alignment to musical notes appears to be more coincidental rather than a strict scientific relationship based on the frequencies.
3:35 he says same key of E, he is talking about music and harmonics, not kiloelectronvolts. So if you look at the emission spectrum they look similar to the sound spectrum. Specifically when you compare groups of elements to tones. You need someone that understands music theory and chemistry to comment properly, certainly not I.
I see E as yellow. And triangle I shape. In fact, I see every note as a specific color shape. // So it find it rather startling how dismissive the host and inverviewee are being! Where is the science....of poetry!
@@radical137 He needs to stop being so "curt" in his responses. (Ha. Couldn't resit that one.). I'm so happy you responded. People often get so trigged by be the I'm made to disappear in a matter of MINUTES! Mr. Radical, DO see my work here. You will LITERALLY be BLOW AWAY (into another dimension!). - The Acoustic Rabbit Hole_
I'm impressed with the level of respect on your show Curt. I decided tonight to circle back to Terrence Howard's claims from the other week, start plugging in searches for some physics dedicated minds that have something to say on the subject. I'm not generally into watching people attack other people for putting themselves out there. Sadly these seem to be the majority of the content related to Terrences JRE appearance. You guys maintained both respect and Even complimented him for his creativeness as well as leaving some open-mindedness for the subtle possibility that some of his claims to carry some creedence. And even though you can tell your guest finds some of the theories fairly ridiculous, he still maintains a respectful narrative. I clicked on ur video Curt because I knew it would be informative and respectful ✊
It doesn't take much more to realize what he was saying wasn't making sense. It didn't make sense to you. Doesn't make sense to actual scientists. They were very polite the way you would be with a 4 year old.
Because he is talking out of his ass andd they are trying to make sure well meaning people aren’t falling for his bullshit. Like MAGA retards falling for the latest right wing grift, you know the type.
I just came upon your channel and I love how you and the Professor handle the matter in a respectful way not like some of the other experts on TH-cam, It is a hard subscribe, like and follow for your channel I am glad I stumbled on it keep up the good work bro.
I think it is disgusting that they are not calling his gibberish exactly what it is! This nonsense needs to be called for what it is. FFS this will be the downfall of humanity!! The fact that a man throwing around word salad that absolutely means nothing, makes him some sort of genius is just laughable!
Terrence howard a perfect example of how you can't rationalize someone out of a bad argument if they came to their conclusion irrationally. There's nothing rational about him remembering being in the womb doing math and 'discovering' that 1*1 actually equals 2. There's no amount of arguing against that
I agree. The problem with this guy is that he doesn't even have a solid understanding of basic level chemistry, math or physics but goes ahead and just creates his own reality. Typical narcissist. This guy is out there, but not smart.
Dont worry, in 70 years they will all agree that what Terrence said was truth and it will become common knowledge, we are too arrogant to acknowledge the flaws in our current knowledge.
@@808FeeAsking someone their opinion about someone or a subject, that admits they didn't even study or watch the subject matter. Is like asking a Worm, How do Birds Fly. Also, Thousands of years ago Newton supposedly discovered Gravity. When he explained it to the Common Man, did Newton have a Basic Understanding of it? Remember, Someone always has to be first at Understanding something, before Another Understands it. Then it becomes easy or common knowledge. Both of these two, missed what Terrence is saying or explaining.
I am going to go out on a limb and say, kudos to Terrence Howard! He has sparked scientific curiosity in the average person. You guys are the fifth 'scientists' (sorry for lumping you all together) I have listened to while trying to understand Terrence's theories. If you get a couple hundred airheads like me you could be doing mankind a favor. Think of all the unwatched TikTok videos😅
its isnt tone deaf, it is already known the music tones of elements nothing he said was new it was just said to the masses for the first time on a huge podcast
Terrence Howard's summation his scientific views as "allegorical" is not as allegorical as it seems. The color of yellow is E. I SEE the E as yellow, and also as triangular in shape. I actually see a color-shape for EACH note. Also, Mr. Howard explicitly stated that "it's the same exact tone, the same color, just doubled." Therefore the lower frequency would NOT be audible. Which, Terrence does go on to explain at bout 4:30. The point that Terrance Howard is making is that there is a definite and definable,pattered parallel between sound and light. I'm a musician. A Classical pianist. My interest lies is how the elements relate to theme and lyrics in music. For example, I see A as the most grounded or "earthy" note (by nature of how it sounds in isolation). I see A as blue-violet. A sort of Indio-blue (and oval in shape). So, I realized that A is less personal (human/biogical), and rather, more cosmic and universal. Look at the expansive epic-ness of Led Zeppelin's "Kashmir." That's the sound of the breadth of the Universe itself. Indigo Blue. As far as what periodic element that frequency of A is, I don't know. I am a mere musician. The guest at 11:20 "It's not "bad," but It's not correct to SAY that about the elements. That's not what they do. There is no mystery to the periodic table with respect to these numbers." Yet, apparently there is. And it's even in color. // And that's about the ONLY thing that Mr. Howard is trying to convey here. Terrence is not a degreed chemist; He's trying to let us know (as I myself am thru my pitch analysis and my Theory of Pitch Psychology) that language of science must change if our minds are actually going to evolve. Because the language of contemporary science since at least the 1950's has been harboring a very limited, Descartian,/Euclidean mind-set that only creates great, cavernous boarders and limits to our thinking as men of science. There's a _reason_ why the scientist Mrs. Sabine Hossenfelder is an atheist. Science has been in a metaphysical crisis for a LONG TIME. Who is to say that the elements CAN'T affect our psychology, mood, and temperament? They try to "Uncle-Tom" poor Terrence Howard with polite, "humane" dismissiveness. Yet it is THEY who refuse to see the connection. Less they be perceived as "anti-science." Art, like God, is truly dead. I love the Theories of Everything channel, and I'm a subscriber. But the guys are truly not only missing the point on this one, but they are dismissing the very baby that they are about to show out with the bathwater. Incidentally, my keyboard-invention, my Musicolor Matrix is laid out in the SHAPE of a periodic table. Only with the chromatic note names replaced with a color-shape. You can watch me play off of my Matrix in real time in my videos. And, for those interested in my won work, please find it here at: _The Acoustic Rabbit Hole_
I am really not happy about how people are receiving Mr Terrence's experience....this is one of the reasons I feel he might be right. The opposition is major seemingly
@@Neymarraps_ona100 Dood! Yes! I am synesthete and musican. See my work here. My Musicolor Matrix and my Theory of Pitch Psychology. Your, _Acoustic Rabbit Hole_
@@Neymarraps_ona100 You are too kind. I"m SO HAPPY that you responded. I was worried that my comments wood have bin, let's just say, _put on hold._ (As they often are).
@@Neymarraps_ona100 the amount of establishment backlash or complaining is usually proportional to how correct someone with a new theory is in human society
I like that you guys weren't dismissive. Terrence is trying to make sense of the world. He has a hypothesis, and he is trying to prove it, which is cool. If 50% of what he says is correct, even 10%, would be okay.
@aliengreeter I think he understands basic math he doesn't agree with it. he's tapping into philosophy/spirituality instead of the scientific method. I think he has some hard work ahead of him to try to prove his hypothesis. I take this over the flat earthers. P.S. I like his sun gave birth to Planets explanation.
@@NSAAMediaPlus you like his explanation that the sun poops out the planets and that the big red spot of Jupiter will one day become a moon? It's fun to think about in a sci-fi way but it's utter nonsense with zero basis in reality and there isn't a shred of evidence for it other than Terry saying so. (Which isn't actually evidence)
@@NSAAMediaPlus He also said that the storm on Jupiter will give birth to a planet ! A storm making a planet ! Totally stupid, as almost anything he say, This guy is at a high level of narcissism and delusion, he needs medical help.
@@MrRizzyWizzy I think he used that as an attention-getter. because if you have one dollar and multiply it you get two. it's a math trick. the multiplication table is a function not really a law. he is making the point that the universe multiplies the first way. he even said in the podcast that currency should be calculated the traditional way.
fundamentally he is saying everything is created out of the ether; thus "elements" seem different due to charge aka "winding"(this would be represented in # of electrons/protons/neutrons) the "tone" is where on the "winding" elements align. If you look at a vortex from the side you see a cone(point at bottom), if you start at the bottom and get wider at the top then you get more charge as you go up. now if you look at the vortex at the top looking down you see the higher charge on the outside rings and as you move to the center less charge; the "tone" is where elements align in the spiral"winding" in this perspective. or at least that's how I'm understanding TH's perspective.
How do you jump from the "Key of E" in terms of frequency or resonance to the atomic absoption of specific chemicals? If you're not sure what he said, perhaps turn on the subtitles.
Curt.. If you can get TH on, it will be the catalyst you've been waiting for. You are the best person for the job. I wish you the best of luck in securing the opportunity.
Actually the photons wave-particle duality. The classical term of wave or particle cannot describe their behavior so they are kinda both. Light ray instead is an optical term for a line that is perpendicular to the lights waves etc. Light rays can be straight or curved.
He's right about that statement, at least. Google something along the lines of sun rays straight. Sunlight is unique in that way, I forget what it's called... Collimated? It's the same principle as those special water nozzles that make the stream look like it's completely still, because the water comes out straight, all in the same direction.
You do realize that he's talking about the spectrograph of the sun on which you can see clear lines. If you want to look it up yourself its called fraunhofer lines. (he wasn't talking about the beams but of a spectrum of frequencies)
Per Relativity all space-time is curved. Making an actual straight line would be the equivalent of folding space. If you include time and remember we are on a planet in orbital (circular) motion around a star, rotating about its own axis, and rotating around the galaxy, etc then the straight line you draw on a piece of paper is actually curved. It only appears straight relative to you and because the arc is so wide.
When he says keep dividing by 2 he is talking about dropping the "octave" of the absorption spectra frequency(ies) until it can be understood as a note or notes like in a key or a chord. How that is useful isn't explained in the clips discussed here, though. Electromagnetic waves in the visible light spectrum and compression waves for sound aren't the same, of course.
I think what he is saying is at a fundamental singularity level where all matter is one, that light, sound , color , and shape all came from the same beginning, they are all connected and related. So if something has a color it also has a sound , and it also has a shape of that same frequency wave. So if say hydrogen is in the light spectrum at we will just say 700hz, you can find the sound hydrogen makes by finding the corresponding frequency that matches with the light by dividing it. Which shape would be similar to putting a bunch of sand on a table , sending frequency through the table and each different frequency with make its own shape in the sand.
The trick that charlatans like Terrance employ is to use vague word salads, so that people do what this guy ^^ is doing... filling in the blank spaces with what he 'thinks the guy may mean'
@@rolsen1304no light itself is the the prima matria from which the expanded and contracted poles emerge (ether being the expanded). It’s the water to the waves on the ocean. It’s from Walter russells work
When you’re this intelligent, and don’t know what “Key of E” is! I’m humbled. I did chuckle at this part of the interview. I really do hope Terrence replies to you and gets on the pod! Perfect platform for this conversation!
@aliengreeter are you having a stroke? Aren’t people allowed to find something funny and be human? Have you eaten? You could be a little hangry if my comment has caused your emotions to arise negatively.
He said “the same Key of E” like key in music, E2 would be double E1 as it’s an octaves above E1. As E3 would be an octave above and therefore double E2. I think all the good musicians understood this. I’m a professional musician so I picked this up fairly quick but these are “scientists,”so this, probably, is hard for them to grasp quickly.
In regards to the colors he is referring to frequency divisions. For instance Green vibrates at 530-600 hertz or vibrations per second. He is talking about divisions and multiple of these numbers represent similar elements and similar colors. Frequencies above violet are not visible to us but divided equally over and over they will make their way into visible light and divided further will become elements. He referred to the Key of E - this is because sound (and music) also are reflected as hertz or frequencies. Honestly, it all makes sense to me.
From what I understand, though I am not sure of this, solids and matter start to exist at frequencies below 16 Hertz. The vast majority of matter are fractions of 1 hertz.
I'm sorry but you are deeply confused. First of all the frequency of light is expressed in terahertz - meaning trillion cycles per second. Second of all sound is a vibration of matter. Light is a vibration of electromagnetic field - those are different. Yes - photons are treated as particles but they are not matter. But most important of all is that you cannot say that just because math can describe different phenomena using numbers it means that these phenomena are the same. Symbolic relationship doesn't imply oneness. Would you agree if I told you that the seasonal cycle is the same as the menstrual cycle (both natural cycles) just because if you divided the former's frequency you would end up with the latter's one ?
Big up Lee! Can easily say he is my favorite chemist and consistently explains complex things in a digestible and interesting way. His explanations often borders on philosophical
He’s making analogies, he’s clearly got Synthestesia. He’s cross wiring different perceptions. He’s comparing the difference in elements, to different keys of the same note on a piano. He’s reflecting that the periodic table should reflect a fractal understanding of reality where each element exhibits self similarity but at different energy levels, rather than discrete way that scientists currently interpret them. I don’t know if it’s right but that seems to be the most accurate way to understand it.
We've already known that elements have a relationship, that's what determined the arrangement of the periodic table, every column has elements that have a relationship, namely the same number of electrons in the outer most shells. This idea is almost 200 years old. The rest of what he is saying is mystical woo.
@@Dedicated_.1 Did he say anything about experiencing symptoms of synesthesia? This all appears to be the result of manic binging pseudo scientific youtube videos. I guarantee this guy has watched every Spirit Science video and believed it all.
That's not what he said.... Don't fucking completely change what he said and claim it's what was said.... He clearly states that they are indeed the SAME ELEMENT
i am actually putting together a presentation right now to bridge the gap between what Terrence Howard is saying, the Walter Russell periodic tables and the mainstream chemistry understanding of your guest
It would be really interesting to watch a video that involves Terrence Howard, Curt Jaimungal and Lee Cronin talking to each other, discussing what could be right and wrong about mathematics, and the elements and chemicals that are involved
Both of these gentlemen are right extremely warm and courteous, both to each each other and regarding Terrence. I just can’t help but be dumbfounded by the lack of understanding, particularly on the part of the professor, of Terrence’s work. The Man has 95 patents to his name, most of which are based in an entirely different scientific system as he outlines at a very high level during his interview with Rogan. Several times in this video the professor says something like, “that’s not how modern chemist do their work” as some sort of evidence against the validity of Terrence concepts. The whole point of Terrence‘s work as well as the work of Robert Edward Grant and Walter Russell is that we can interact with the universe and the laws of physics in a fundamentally different way if we reinterpret some of the fundamentals we may be even just a little bit off. That’s why one time one equals two argument is so important. Because although the good professor here seems to completely miss it, the one times one concept represents a fundamental change in the most basic levels of mathematics and are understanding of physics and chemistry. Check out Robert Edward Grant and really dig into the work of Walter Russell. I will say though, if you’re only refutation to his work is that “ we don’t do it that way at my job”, you are literally missing the whole point. His models work, his concepts have been used to create real world technologies that are used by some of the top companies on earth. You gentlemen are worthy of respect in my book, and I would love to see you both take a little closer look at the broader context and background of work, particularly with Walter Russell and Robert Edward Grant. Best wishes 🙏
Terrence Howard makes being curious fun I can’t help but smile when I start to think of some of the concepts he’s presenting. I’m really glad that you took on the challenge to review some of his comments; much appreciated.
The thing is he doesn't promote curiosity. He's spreading misinformation and using old pseudoscientific ideas from other people and just claiming it's his. Nothing he presents is worth your time my friend. He is a liar and a charlatan. Scientific results only, anything that goes to pseudoscience is unreliable. His mentality is like oke of a cult leader. Please be very careful because his enticing "charm" is what hooks you into believing complete fantastical garbage that has no applications to your life.
If the elements in the periodic table were really oscillating at the frequencies that he claims, then we would be able to hear them since those frequencies that he cited are within the normal range of human hearing.
@@Fleato Exactly. The visible spectrum is less than one octave. Terrence may have redefined the term octave. Or he may be operating on another plane of reality.
I guess "key of E" means the 3rd musical note, mi, and that's why he says those elements "are the same tone, just doubled in each octave" (3:10). He's talking about sounds and associating sounds to the chemical elements. That is, this needs WAY more clarification. He only scratches the surface of what he tries to convey.
First of all, it's not his. It comes from Walter russel. Second of all, he couldn't even really adequately explain that. The tone thing has validity but he didn't even explain it right. Walter russel wasn't talking about the sound we think is sound. He was talking about how gravity has octaves of compression and expansion. And these elements are at different stages of that. He likened it to the way sound works in the sense that air escaping produces a sound. Well matter has energy escaping (gravity compressing inward produces an equal reaction of expansion outward) and that produces a signature. In this case, radiation. They aren't literal keys like on a piano.
I understood what he was saying and where he was getting some of these ideas. He didnt make them up. It was established science at one point. Also he is not wrong about math being linerly expressed and also in 2 dimensions which greatly limits its symbiosis with the multi dimensional world we are trying to marry it to
3:27 I love how the 2 gentlemen in this video are so versed in their subjects of theoretical physics (host) and chemistry (guest), that they couldn't even possibly fathom that a person would compare the periodic table of elements to musical keys. LMAO. The concept of comparing elements of the periodic table to specific musical pitches is a stretch at best, and preposterously laughable at worst. Terrence Howard is talking about mass spectrometry when he refers to spectrometer at 1:17. The unit of spectrometry is m/z (mass number divided by charge number). But Terrence is talking about Hertz, which measures frequency. More specifically, Terrence is referring to the frequency of soundwaves e.g. 440Hz the audio frequency that corresponds to the musical pitch "A". So right off the bat, Terrence demonstrates that he is comparing two different units of measurement, which also proves he doesn't understand mass spectrometry, and is just saying words that don't make sense. Since the guys in this video are actually Subject Matter Experts, they can't even comprehend that someone could make such an ignorant statement. In addition to that, they're trying to be nice and give Terrence the benefit of the doubt. Literally 5 minutes into this video, it's already entertaining on so many levels. LOL. This video truly contains multitudes.
It's because it's easier to not follow the rules of science and make unsubstantiated claims than it is to learn actual science. Terrence goes off on something that causes people to wonder, and having no real formal training in these hard sciences, they aren't able to validate the rubbish. They draw their own conclusions from what he says, and then say he's making sense to them. Not because what he says is right, but because they can "understand" it. Everyone marvels at the mysteries of the universe, but very few can actually back up that understanding and go through the difficulties of learning it. Everyone wonders about these things, which is why they catch on, and if you don't have a framework for dealing with these sorts of questions, then you can easily accept anything. Just because something feels right to you is meaningless. That is determined by your personal experiences and feelings, which never line up with the unforgiving truth. So many times have I had a gut feeling about something to only be put to shame when I actually sit down and run the numbers. People also want to believe there is some hidden truth that's just waiting for them to discover or be bestowed upon them by some prophet that's at odds with established paradigms. And if they don't have to validate their understanding through rigorous scientific coursework, even better!
Yes, I agree. I caught his ideas a few months ago and couldn't disprove them in my mind. I then saw him at Oxford Union, so ok, someone cares. Then JRE, and I was side-eyeing it. But, as Howard said, his programmer referred to the settings for the model. Science can falsify it or not. It won't take long. ;)
@@morningstarsci Still, I wonder what he is selling... is it hope? Magic? A link to esoteric knowledge that implies a Creator and an order to things... My academic background is Biology so I'm not one of his Followers, just curious why he has so many.
@astraltraveler257 My background is computer science and computational chemistry. I think it's a form of new age magic or alchemy. Chemistry came from alchemy. Alchemists didn't understand what they were working with, and through refinement and eventual application of the scientific process we were finally able to break through the vale that alchemy had kept over our eyes and kept us from progressing. It was a wrong theory and framework for dealing with the natural world. It would be incorrect to say that nothing could come from what Terrence and others are talking about because it does cause people to wonder and explore, but the current form of his discussion will go no where. Science builds staging that allows you to reach and understand that next level. It's almost impossible to make any sort of leap without going through all the in-betweens to get there. If anything, these topics are wayyy before there time, or they are rubbish. We really have no way of proving or disproving because what he talks about has no connection with our current understanding of the world. So, it's like magic. Yes, we eventually shook off our magical understanding of the world and came to find real explanations for how the wind moves and what those lights are in the sky, but it wasn't magic that got us there. Its that we got there in spite of magic. Same here. Just because we eventually come to some geometric understanding of the universe does not mean Terrence was right. Just because Terrence says the world is governed by frequency doesn't mean that he gets to claim anything that is discovered that has a periodic nature to it.
Firstly, his argument is that using Newtonian physics to explain chemistry is inadequate. He asserts that scalar quantities are essential for understanding electromagnetic properties. Consequently, the sounds and appearances of elements are closely interrelated; one cannot be fully comprehended without the other. Dmitri Mendeleev, however, did not take this aspect into account in his formulation of the periodic table. If you can’t explain the true meaning of mass for more than 100 years you have to consider the Howard’s of this time.
@@ShayzareI think I can explain this: Terrence says the Arizona Cardinals are the #1 team. You then say according to their record they are 4 wins and 13 losses and one of the worst teams. But you are looking at it wrong. They are #1 alphabetically. That's kinda what he is doing but then you realize he isn't using the NFL standings, he uses theor alphabetical order to explain why Arizona Cardnials are the #1 Hockey team instead of football. When you try to correct him by saying "wtf"... a bunch of people who know nothing about NFL or NHL say he isn't wrong you don't understand his genius.
This reminds me of Bob Lazaars "Element 115". He made a seemingly profound commentary about the periodic table, but elements get discovered and are assigned a number and eventually an element would be "element 115".
This theory by Terrence Howard is based on a ladder of sorts. This ladder is thought to emerge in the natural world as in how tonalities distribute, frequencies harmonise, inference patterns and so on. This ladder/scale is assumed to be universal and thus assembles the universe and all in it depending on this scale. 2PIR as a basal tone so to speak, which is also where the angle of the hexagon (120°) is derived from as a constituent to the scale and derived harmonics. Yes. This is a sensible skeleton as it also reflects how information primitives emerge. The difficulty is that to linear science thinking people this does not make sense since it resembles fitting reality to an assumption.
@@cueshq789 Bro, my buddy, Shark Butt, he straight up did that ish, bro. Took his dad's Mazda (cause it has the gnarliest Bose sound system in the world) and he smoked way too much skunk weed. Not, like, Marijuana, like, this plant that grows here, it stinks like shit, and it does not get you high. So, Shark Butt smoked a whole bunch of that ish, and then played some of the dopest dubstep the world never saw, feel me? Anyways, his aluminum nitrous cracker turned into gold. Like, he showed me. That ish was so gold, you could barely see the spray paint chipping off it. A few days later, my buddy got shot by a cop. Cop says it was because Shark Butt (real name: Randall Zitpicker) was running naked with a machine gun at a mormon church. That's the official story, but I know the truth. And now, you know the truth, too. Aight, shiz-lickerz, I'm out. Remember: When they prescribe Prozac; you smoke crack.
This is a case study of what happens when someone doesn't think it's important to actually do the hard work to understand the fundamentals of a field, and instead thinks they can simply hopscotch through a superficial understanding of concepts and string unrelated things together through false analogies and salad or words that they think is related in their mind. Having a large number of patents to their name -- it simply means they have the financial resources to hire patent attorneys to push cockamamy, seemingly original, "inventions" through the patent system.
@@terryedmondson2792 No one is missing anything. He's just baffling you with bullshit. You've never passed a higher math, physics, or chemistry course in your life, and you therefore *don't know what you don't know*. You're not in a position to judge. Go on Khan Academy. There are free courses you can take. I barely graduated high school - and went on to teach myself a ton of math on that site. Years later, I've got a PhD in Biomedical Engineering. I'm not trying to be an asshole. I'm saying, I remember being about 18 and not able to tell the difference between stuff that sounds like science, and actual science. Then I applied myself, and my head is screwed on straight. Please, have some humility to realize that your ignorance isn't as good as my years of hard work. You can take it under good authority - Terrance is utterly delusional. Like... not mistaken. But if he weren't a celebrity, and he presented to a psychiatrist saying these things, he'd rightly be medicated.
How can you guys be so dense to not understand that he's referring to frequency and wavelength? Key of E not KeV. As in musical notes. There are harmonics and octaves in notes, that's what his analogy is! I'm an electrical engineer, and I understood what he was referring to!
Because that makes no sense when discussing the periodic table. They were giving him the benefit of the doubt. You are essentially removing that doubt and proving Terrence knows nothing.
He is saying that hydrogen, on a spectrometer, appears in a band that has a number value. That number value, when translated to hertz, gives us an imperceivable sound. When we drop that tone down to the audible spectrum, we get roughly the key of D Flat. I don't know why Terry thinks it's E, it's very clearly in the band of D Flat, but it doesn't matter. Terry relating hydrogen to sound because he looked at a spectrometer and saw a similar number, is akin to relating an airplane to a turtle because they both move. It doesn't matter, and the connection between those things is essentially non-existent, so the real scientist connected Terry's nonsense to something that makes a bit more sense.
@@laartwork They should still address his arguments as presented. Especially since "E" wasn't the only key he was mentioning, so "KeV" as some kind of charitable interpretation still doesn't make any sense. The only thing more annoying than that Howard episode are the debunks that don't properly drill down into what they claim to be drilling down into. It's like I'm having my time wasted two different times.
You don't sound like an electrical engineer. The key of E is an acoustics thing. If you got a EE degree and can't see through Howard's overt BS , I feel sorry for you and the institution that granted you the degree.
This was honestly amazing. Willing to hear Terrance out and appreciative of his interest, however y'all know simple faults in his perspective that he's not willing to accept may actually be wrong.
Im shocked at how forgiving and understanding both are towards Terrance Howard's absolutely nonsensical Rogan podcast. Kudos to both for not being outright dismissive.
Everything in existence has a frequency. If there isn't a frequency then it doesn't exist. Therfore if it exists then there is a frequency to be measured. I'm not saying I understand the process of how to do it well enough to break down in steps. But if you understand that everything has a frequency then it should be enough to understand that someone can measure it if they have the know-how.
@@hakimbey2030 fail. The element is made up of tiny particles that have something like a frequency. The element itself does not have a frequency. This idiots ramblings have no truth in then
@@Illumignostic fail? Everything in existence has a frequency… that’s quantum physics 101. Everything in the universe is energy manifested as “atoms”, and energy/atoms is fundamentally vibration. Vibration has one main characteristic, frequency. The frequency of these vibrations determines energy manifests itself. A cloud is fundamentally no different to a rock. The only difference is the frequency of which the energy vibrates. If you know how to map these frequencies and how to manipulate them, then you’ll access whole new field of science. It would literally unlock sciences a kin to magic. We would be able to manipulate the substrate of reality like Gods. It would allow us to manipulate reality in the same way a musician manipulates sound.
I thought Terrence Howard was an idiot, but it turns out he's a genius. Oh, not a mathematical or scientific genius -- a marketing genius. He has figured out how to write a book that is mostly gibberish, and create a huge controversy to sell it.
Thats the point its music, it has nothing to do with chemistry. Atom don't have frequency, Terrence don't understand even what frequency means... That was utterly stupid :P
The blank stares of trying to figure out key of E and tones analogy is their thought process is locked into mass. The order is arranged by mass. Terence was explaining that table should be arranged by their harmonic ratio and it would be relevant, and not by mass.
@@TheoriesofEverything By the way - you did a fantastic job with this. You gave the benefit of the doubt while also doing your best to tether everything to reality... As the comment section reveals - not all of us academics have your finesse. A lesser host wouldn't have the patience you've got. And I seriously admire you for that
@@TheoriesofEverything I'm glad you are in support of "breaking the internet" ...haha....I realize it's your work and income....but, I have to say, the human Soul was better off with Crayons....love your channel....
I love how respectful and open this conversation was. True gentlemen. Also true scientists. To quote Greg Braeden, science is never static. It is ever evolving as new evidence presents and changes previously agreed upon answers. The biggest mistake a scientist can make is not being open to change. I am not a scientist and truly didn't understand much of what was discussed here, but it sounds to me like science is about to get very interesting with the emergence of quantum physics and other technologies being revealed. Who knows. It feels like Howard is on to something but maybe has details wrong. I did quickly watch his show and I didn't zero in on the periodic table myself or any of that because I am not a scientist. What I did hear was that we need to consider how sound and frequency affect our mostly water based bodies. THAT is super interesting. I don't discount conspiracy either. With the disclosure project well under way exposing some pretty dark groups working to make things very difficult and dangerous for everyone else, this is where I don't think we should be gullible. Zero point energy sounds very interesting indeed.....whatever the ether is....:)
First of all, it's not his. It comes from Walter russel. Second of all, he couldn't even really adequately explain that. The tone thing has validity but he didn't even explain it right. Walter russel wasn't talking about the sound we think is sound. He was talking about how gravity has octaves of compression and expansion. And these elements are at different stages of that. He likened it to the way sound works in the sense that air escaping produces a sound. Well matter has energy escaping (gravity compressing inward produces an equal reaction of expansion outward) and that produces a signature. In this case, radiation. They aren't literal keys like on a piano.
I do believe his approach was not using maths, but philosophy. While it is more difficult to interpret, he should get some serious credit for bringing his theories to a conventional academic physicist using standard particle physics computer models to rebuild functional planets in a simulation of the universe.
Y'all where so beautifully gentle. Since I saw the interview, I have been waiting for some accomplished people like yourselves to address it. Given TH's following you are both quite brave honestly. Given his spiritual path these last few years, I think TH is trying to associate esoteric/Hermetic principles of everything being Vibration & Energy Frequency to Chemistry like many are doing with Physics these days. Like in Cymatics or Vibrational Levitation. I think he may be trying to figure out how the Pyramids were built using levitation to move the stones with sound vibrations. Which was the same path Walter Russell was on when he created his version of the table. Thank you.
I actually stumbled on to this channel,I enjoyed it-and the fact it wasn’t disrespectful towards anyones convictions hypothesis or ideas. I don’t identify as an scientist mathematician or biologist etc.but I am not dumbfounded to understanding some ideas. While I appreciate the experience and critique as playfulness/resistance to most debates ideas and theories I too believe this inherent inclination to resistance or stubborn (to a degree)is necessary to progress (especially in the field of mathematics/science/biology etc. What I understood from the Howard’s (bisexual theory) from a (enlightened spirituality)premise is his concept of (dual energy reactivity)ie.YIN YANG FREQUENCY-opposites in its essence and functionality;which does not (oppose)or restrict combust or compete with eachother - yet enhances or and elevate a function of sorts(apply this concept to whatever chemical/biological or mathematical mechanics you want. I think more then a critique (the greatest minds should always be teachable students)with that said we as a species can make greater advancement when great and bright minds can sit down together at a table and constructively and respectfully investigate (possibility)oppose to trashing ideas that warrants more understanding step by step and without stripping (anyone with a strong premise on a said topic -title or no title)of credibility or and their contribution to stimulate the advancement of an entire human race.
They were being extremely nice and trying to give him the benefit of the doubt as the key of E has nothing to b do with the periodic table. Maybe he thinks a 150 year old incorrect theory was right... but it wasn't. So they know what the Key if E is but not how it pertains to the periodic table so they were trying to help him. I think I can explain this: Terrence says the Arizona Cardinals are the #1 team. You then say according to their record they are 4 wins and 13 losses and one of the worst teams. But you are looking at it wrong. They are #1 alphabetically. That's kinda what he is doing but then you realize he isn't using the NFL standings, he uses theor alphabetical order to explain why Arizona Cardnials are the #1 Hockey team instead of football. When you try to correct him by saying "wtf"... a bunch of people who know nothing about NFL or NHL say he isn't wrong you don't understand his genius.
Howard is full of it. I literally taught myself chemistry (took 15 years) and still terrible at making compounds cause I'm lazy and so on. But even I know this is complete garbage. I got chemistry vids. I even have beryllium reacting with water with hydrochloric acid vid but I can tell you it doesn't react with water at ph7. Beryllium is very stable for its group.
I think I can explain this: Terrence says the Arizona Cardinals are the #1 team. You then say according to their record they are 4 wins and 13 losses and one of the worst teams. But you are looking at it wrong. They are #1 alphabetically. That's kinda what he is doing but then you realize he isn't using the NFL standings, he uses theor alphabetical order to explain why Arizona Cardnials are the #1 Hockey team instead of football. When you try to correct him by saying "wtf"... a bunch of people who know nothing about NFL or NHL say he isn't wrong you don't understand his genius.
*The two people analyzing Terrence got off on the wrong foot by not understanding what hertz means even when Terrence explained it to be frequencies of sound.*
@@CumiaBites but it might actually apply. Keep In mind that domains of study are often specialized.. so a physicist might not understand a musical scale. But there’s a physics professor “Jill Linz” who is trained in music who researched this topic and came to a similar outcome. Look her up
My knowledge of chemistry is literally the GE course they forced me to take to take in my undergraduate. So besides the absolute basics, I truly have no knowledge. Instead of being outright dismissive. You guys tried to educate people on the subject. It truly does speak volumes about your character, especially in a world that conflict equals high engagement. I learned a lot, cheers 🥂
Howard's a crazy, just go back to his old message recordings about his techniques in teaching women how to wipe with toilet paper (yes that's real) This would be like listening to Katt Williams about Hollywood conspiracies after watching the video of him being beat up by a 7 year old. (that exists too)
Yes, except not the way Terrence Howard is doing it. He is attempting to debunk all arguments against him as some grand conspiracy designed to keep people subjugated. He just has no idea what he is talking about most of the time. Reminder, he believes 1x1 = 2, black holes don't exist, that the storm in Jupiter is actually a planet, and that he could remember what he experienced in the womb.
I think I can explain this: Terrence says the Arizona Cardinals are the #1 team. You then say according to their record they are 4 wins and 13 losses and one of the worst teams. But you are looking at it wrong. They are #1 alphabetically. That's kinda what he is doing but then you realize he isn't using the NFL standings, he uses theor alphabetical order to explain why Arizona Cardnials are the #1 Hockey team instead of football. When you try to correct him by saying "wtf"... a bunch of people who know nothing about NFL or NHL say he isn't wrong you don't understand his genius.
This started with him saying he hasn't watched all of it..... how is he going to understand the context of anything, let alone be the expert on a podcast about the thing he's only watched clips of...... cmonnnnnn Kurt
I've sent out invitations to Terrence Howard to come on the podcast in various ways prior to this recording. Love to have him on. Unfortunately, there's been no response so far. If you know Terrence Howard, the invite is open. - Curt
I'm also a part of the USP this is best. Darren would honestly be best for Kurt.
Also Robert Edward grant. He’s a mathematician who’s found the locations within natural geometry of all the known math constants in work derived from Walter Russell’s.
either your slow or willfully ignorant...u know damn well he talking about frequency when he talks about tone...all chemistry is frequency at its base...so a vibration frequency set at the same as the chemical will excite it...ie you get 30% more hydrogen when you induce sound vibration set to the same frequency as hydrogen during the electrolysis process.... facts it has been done..
The only proper way to have this conversation is with Terrence present
Thank you for taking him seriously. He might be completely wrong, but he’s definitely not ‘crazy’, which is how many others are painting him to be. While I’m thankful of you 2, you’re simply reiterating conventional physics and chemistry which he’s challenging. I think the only way to ‘debunk’ him is to understand his point of view first. So thank you for extending the invitation.
This is Terrence Howard… I was specifically referencing the prime resident frequency of hydrogen, carbon, silicone, and cobalt, and rhodium that they all lie within the same spectral lines on a spectrometer that tones where the key of E as in music based on a Pythagorean 32 as space I wasn’t talking about GEV’s or VEE or any of those other things I’m not talking about energy beyond energy represented in oscillations or in frequency. Attempt to have someone on your show to talk about what I’ve said without inviting me there to defend what I’ve said. It’s sort of a serpentine way of dealing with a situation. I would love to meet up with him and you and have a conversation on my channel.
Pythagorean 432
If you are actually Terrance, your ego is getting in the way of an honest conversation.
What a bunch of made up BS
The invite to the real Terrence had been made public by Curt many times. Even in this video :)
We appreciate ALL your work Mr. Howard... The host says he has been trying to contact you for a debate on the topic with the professor. Hope y'all can set it up. It Would be amazing
Sorry, they both don’t understand that “Key of E” refers to music? They decided he meant something else…? No, he said what he meant, guys: “Key of E”. The frequency associated with the note E, which doubles at every octave of E.
Yeah, this was cringy to listen to. Love you, two, but damn….
I agree. I think this is how they discredit people with information that disrupts the power structure. The pretend that they don't understand and don't get it so it must be false information
They purposely bungled that part. It was too obvious
Kev....Gev? No the key of E, as in the frequency that if you keep doubling will eventually end up as a frequency in the visible spectrum, with a corresponding colour that has nothing to do with the aesthetics of the element, nor how you burn it 🤷
Yer I'm 3 mins and was thinking the same..Key of 'E'. kiev ? what are these on? haha. let it roll :)
He's arranging the periodic table based on frequency, not atomic mass. He doesn't say the periodic table is wrong, just that there are different relationships between the elements based on frequency rather than mass.
Relative mass is a relative accumulation of motion, which has its own frequency, color, geometry etc, depending on that accumulation, and position within the wave octave. According to Walter Russell
the point is terrance did not create that periodic table it was created by walter russell 90% of what terrance was saying was already known, what he said new was the flower of life stuff
@@pooman2 so not according to reality
He literally says it's wrong
@@DadeMurphie according to Russell’s understanding of reality. If you got any counter arguments I’d love to hear. Plenty of “he’s wrong” without any specific arguments out there. Pretty much all of them actually
Breaks my heart to see so many intelligent people wasting time trying to make sense of Howard's shuck and jive.
@modernlunacy4341I've seen smarter people than me breaking down how no, he's not on to something.
@@BoogieBoogsForever He may be ON something - or he may need to be.... but his thoughts are stream of consciousness psedoscientificobabble, nothing more
There are no intelligent people taking him seriously, only complete idiots and people who're mentally ill.
It's crazy right? I wouldnt give him five minutes of my time. Lol. Pretty bizarre
Ja he is just a narcissist who thinks he is the smartest person in the world.
I am astounded by the number of people defending Terrence. I would love to see a top physicist explain the recreation of Saturn with no gravity.
it speaks to a tremendous failure on the part of our country's public education system. Anyone who took and passed basic introductory science and math courses in high school *should* be able to see that what TH said in the JRE interview was literally nonsense... totally disconnected from an understanding of even the most basic concepts of chemistry and mathematics. Just utter horseshit drivel... like the scribblings of a schizophrenic. That there is a sizeable number of functioning adults that can't recognize this and think TH is on to some new groundbreaking understanding of reality is deeply concerning, and it's a condemnation of our society. We have big problems.
No surprise given the HUGE number of catastrophically stupid people in the world.
You just need a high school physcist. I mean when a guy says he knows more than Einstein at age 6 because he learned it in a prior life, that's when you call the guys with the white coats to come get him.
@@YTSparty :) "The mistake Newton made was" another classic line
Terrance said there's no straight lines in the universe
To prove that you have look at fibinachi sequences. The building blocks of everything. Since there are no straight lines. That blows all the math to pieces. Terrance is right
Professor Cronin was unbelievably kind and generous regarding Howard.
To kind?
@@michael-4k4000 Too
It's the way a truly intelligent and secure man should behave. Neil Tyson is an insecure beta grifter.
That what teachers/professors do, motivate instead of just telling you what are your mistakes. He tells you about logical holes in your thoughts while telling you that you even think about that stuff in your own way is a good start
@@ronsim3989 100 percent. I had high school science teachers that where better at educating than Neil Tyson. Lee Cronin is a real one.
All this debate and no one mentions Terrance started the podcast with "my first memories started in my mothers womb"
Is it not possible? It’s been documented cases of people remembering past lives
@@unclefry7147yes, these cases are called anecdotes. There is no empirical evidence to support those cases were real.
😂😂😂
@@unclefry7147 it’s been documented that people tell stories about claiming to remember past lives. They’re lying
@@unclefry7147Anyone can say anything. How can it ever be proved though? There was a very interesting case of a 10 year old girl who kept telling her mother about dreams she kept having about a certain place...her mother couldn't make sense of it so she started researching everything her daughter kept telling her..that eventually led to her finding the place and home in her dreams and it turned out to be the home of a family who lost their daughter to a tragic car accident. That could be reincarnation or remembering a past life...but we have no real way to prove it. Terrance knows this so I wouldn't take anything he says seriously.
I am not a scientist or anything remotely close. I have only a Bachelor of Arts Degree in Literature, and even I know that within the first minute of the interview Terrence had with Joe Rogan, he's clearly talking about sound/pitch/frequencies/MUSIC! He is not talking about "energy." He literally uses the terms "tone" and "hertz." I'm shocked that the host and his guest did not pick up on this during their reaction to the interview.
when you are already in a mood to roast someone who speaks language that flies over their heads.
Because they’re not retards that fall for a schizo’s ramblings
He's talking to a chemist, not a musician. The chemist is just going to explain the elemental chemistry that Terrance has decided not to learn. They refer to the music claim as an allegory and Terrance's explanation as confusing and wrong.
it show how stupid these scientist are today
There is a history of hiding and intentionally misleading to protect some informations from getting to the masses and changing thought patterns. They have done this against Einstein. Insulting him and all.
It may have one of those unintended consequences the overlords are worried about us. If I see more smear tactics than just informing the public I become suspicious.
Albert Einstein been awfully quiet since this dropped
totally agree. i think he's dropped off big time
🤣🤣🤣
Weird, I can hear him turning in his grave from here
Thought Mr.Einstein stood on 10 toes, turns out he's not even 6ft deep.
Not a peep out of Da Vinci either.
What terrence actually said: "You need six hammer the ice cream to monkey off eleven dizzy
YES! [Prof. Dave]
Nice copy from another podcast
Zactly
Haha! I saw the Professor Dave Explains podcast too! And I agree!
Pootie Tang math: sign your pity on the runny kind with the tangent of the megahertz. Tippy tah.
Terrence Howard: Sop diddy. Makes sense.
I don’t understand why they are being so gracious to talk about Terrence Howard’s rantings as if they made any sense whatsoever. And I don’t think it’s an ad hominem to say that so-called “Terryology” (that’s literally what Terrence calls his “science”) is beyond stupid. Seriously, Professor Dave Explains podcast on this topic said it BEST.
These gentlemen are just being unnecessarily kind instead of straightforward. You can’t make it make sense. It’s a discourtesy to the public to entertain the gibberish he (TH) so confidently pushes out, he’s a great actor. I’ll give him that.
It’s amazing you don’t see how close minded you are
@@nkoppa5332 No. Ir's not closeminded to be accurate.
5 + 5 is ten. It's not closeD minded to not entertain someone saying 5 + 5 is 11. Or green.
You need to grow up and become more precise.
@@BoogieBoogsForever its very close minded, be the tolerant enlightenment era atheists you take after
Because they are two professionals being respectful. It would be easy to just dismiss TH with names and ridicule but instead they entertain his.. 'theories' with scientific rigour. They certainly don't owe him anything and could better occupy their time on more pressing issues, but educating the public is also important.
Why dont you invite him to your podcast and let him explain what he means? And have this gentleman there also to ask any questions
I would love that. Explicitly invited him. Still waiting. If you have a connection, please reach out to him. - Curt
Aye ask him what's 1×1 😂
@@Moondogg111😂
@@Moondogg111 1x1 does sound silly but i would like someone to first define multiplication and see if it conforms . It might be an anomaly to the rule that needs to be explained
@@TheoriesofEverything check your comments. Terrance Howard replied. He wants to connect
I was looking everywhere for an intellectual analysis of his reasoning so thank you for taking the time to put this together and teach us Level 1-2 folks a little from a chemistry standpoint!!
"Is bisexual tone something that chemist call chemicals?" Lmfao!!! I cant believe Curt asked that question with a straight face. 🤣
Bisectional seems to be what he’s trying to say
you know in a lot of languages they assign a gender to things? wonder why that is
@@technoweasel8937 hermetic principles, everything has gender.
Kurt is no big sexual he is Pansexual
@@technoweasel8937 In many cases it's just a simple matching of feminine/masculine sounding words with a corresponding pronoun. For example, in English we know a name like Anna is feminine, so we could say banana, drama, and mascara are all feminine too. It's unrelated to sex in that a cobra could be a feminine animal, but a male cobra is still a boy. Sometimes words can switch gender in their diminutive/augmentative forms so a masculine warrior may become a feminine mega-warrior. Still, I am not sure how an element can be bi/hetero/homosexual, any more than a table can be.
I’ve never seen someone trying so hard to not call someone stupid that they convinced themselves that the subject was actually intelligent. Saying that 1 times 1 equals 2 isn’t sharp or creative. It’s the definition of ignorance
Glorified addition. Think about it
Arrogance is not spelled that way.
Or Narcissism!
Agreed. They are doing EVERYTHING to avoid the elephant in the room. That Terrence Howard is completely BONKERS.
The musical note E corresponds to different frequencies (in Hertz) depending on the octave in which it is played. Here are the frequencies for various octaves:
Musical note E as played on a piano
- E0: 20.60 Hz
- E1: 41.20 Hz
- E2: 82.41 Hz
- E3: 164.81 Hz
- E4: 329.63 Hz (This is the E above middle C, often referred to as E4)
- E5: 659.25 Hz
- E6: 1318.51 Hz
- E7: 2637.02 Hz
- E8: 5274.04 Hz
These frequencies double with each ascending octave. The most commonly referenced E is E4, which has a frequency of 329.63 Hz.
Terrance is just correlating the periodic table with a musical construct
It's not Terrances idea. It comes from Walter russel.
The tone thing has validity but he didn't even explain it right. Walter russel wasn't talking about the sound we think is sound. He was talking about how gravity has octaves of compression and expansion. And these elements are at different stages of that. He likened it to the way sound works in the sense that air escaping produces a sound. Well matter has energy escalating and that produces a signature. They aren't literal keys like on a piano.
And it has nothing to do with the periodic table. That is why Russel who was an artist was also wrong.
I think I can explain this:
Terrence says the Arizona Cardinals are the #1 team. You then say according to their record they are 4 wins and 13 losses and one of the worst teams.
But you are looking at it wrong. They are #1 alphabetically. That's kinda what he is doing but then you realize he isn't using the NFL standings, he uses theor alphabetical order to explain why Arizona Cardnials are the #1 Hockey team instead of football. When you try to correct him by saying "wtf"... a bunch of people who know nothing about NFL or NHL say he isn't wrong you don't understand his genius.
@@laartwork No, he wasn't wrong. Terrance is a fucking actor who can't even do basic multiplication, or knows the difference between frequency and wavelength. Stop simping
And this links Hydrogen (1) Carbon (6) and Cobalt (27) in what way, exactly????
@@laartwork don't mistake Russels brilliance with Howard's ignorance. Russel never said the periodic table was the same as music we produce in atmosphere
The whole "tone" "octave" and "frequency" talk seems like he was referring to something to do with sound rather than colour?
idk what part you're referencing, but light can be described in wavelengths and turned into sound, i.e., sound waves; hence, you can turn the frequency of any color light into sound or at least an octave or tone that we humans can perceive.
More specifically a wave.
he's basically shifting frequency of color to audible frequency so visible colors irc are in terahertz so divide by 2 until you are in audible Hz or Khz frequency and he's assigning that to elements it's unclear to me how does it get color of element in first place because spectrogram of element has many lines with different colors like mentioned in this video.
Corect. He is talking about sound and the fact that it's frequency has correspondences with colours. There is a medical condition called Synesthesia where sounds trigger a person to see colours.
Everything is one thing, its all energy shelfs or levels they are interoconvertable
Two things are important in science: Describe your procedure and the results in such a way that others can reproduce it (experiment).
Describe a formalism that reliably and repeatably predicts the results from the initial situation (theory). Nothing Terrence Howard says has anything to do with one or the other.
Okay, so how does science explain GOD.? Since they can't, Terrence's explanation is the closest Anyone has come so far.
@@ballerblocks exactly!
Terrence has some of these patented. Why not check those if you're interested in the details.
I can patent anything that doesn’t mean my parents work or have any actual basis!! Seriously?
@@ballerblocks science cannot explain something that does not exist
I appreciate that these gentlemen aren't being dismissive. They are trying to be fair and understand.
I was waiting for this sentiment. They were very kind with their assessment unlike many other self righteous folk
They’re very gracious. Nevertheless, Terrence Howard’s assertions are, at best, totally confused.
@@philipestrin4381 I tend to agree with you, but I think he has synesthesia. That may explain his ideas of "notes and octaves" related to elements.
They didn’t even watch the episode. They’re commenting on clips. Disappointing.
this is definitely not Terrance
One man is at the frontier of discovery, having an adept understanding and relationship with the elements. The other is at the frontier of mastery, having an in-depth understanding of concepts and ideas already established by other men. One is attempting to be a revolutionary, the other is happy to be a conduit, passing established information down to younger generations.
No one is as you said, conduit to you get generations. The other is a conman who lied about his patents, his credentials, and copied Walter Russels theory while mixing it up with a bunch of nonsense.
The tone thing has validity but he didn't even explain it right. Walter russel wasn't talking about the sound we think is sound. He was talking about how gravity has octaves of compression and expansion. And these elements are at different stages of that. They aren't literal keys like on a piano.
@@joshuam4993 yea he was fact checked about a lot of things he said and they were lies. Its amazing how no one brings up how he not only believed he had the power "to destroy mankind" but he was "considering" it. LOL
@@joshuam4993 Did you check the claim of his patents yourself, or did you just read that in a comment somewhere and ran with it?
The older gentleman sounds institutionalized as wow. No questioning of the status quo. This is what the institution say and nothing else.
@@joshuam4993 he has proof and his patent isn’t fake. You’re just a hater
Finally! I've been checking youtube since that podcast to see if anyone has responded who is qualified to talk about his math.
th-cam.com/video/77jXrcjEXXM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=V4uDhM9LIJy76YVY
Check out the professor Dave explains episode on this.
@@davidbraut7051 Professor Dave did a great job countering all of the nonsense Howard was spewing.
I think it's diabolically funny that you made this poor man try and rationalize terryology
Diabolically funny is exactly right.
Necessary as well. This type of middle school information should replace commercials on tv.
Bro that’s Lee Cronan he’s like Rick Sanchez type mad scientist man he’ll be fine with this
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That’s hilarious!
These guys are very politely bending over backwards to avoid saying< "This guy's friggin NUTS."
Thank you. They're being extremely nice about this insanity.
he didn't say keV, he said key of E. the clue is the frequency
i am not saying any of this makes sense
here are all the Es on a piano, with their frequencies
E0 (subcontra octave): 20.60 Hz
E1 (contra octave): 41.20 Hz
E2 (great octave): 82.41 Hz
E3 (small octave): 164.81 Hz
E4 (one-line octave, middle E): 329.63 Hz
E5 (two-line octave): 659.26 Hz
E6 (three-line octave): 1318.51 Hz
E7 (four-line octave): 2637.02 Hz
E8 (five-line octave): 5274.04 Hz
E9 (six-line octave): 10548.08 Hz
E10 (seven-line octave): 21096.16 Hz
E11 (eight-line octave): 42192.33 Hz
Thank you
432 hz, the healing frequency 🙏🏽 L O L and yes, whoosh right over their heads with simple knowledge
Key, not note of E. A key is the group of pitches, or scale, that forms the basis of a musical composition.
E major is a major scale based on E, consisting of the pitches E, F♯, G♯, A, B, C♯, and D♯.
This whole podcast reminds me of a race car driver, the mechanic, and the engineers, all arguing about who knows more about racing.
Thank you! 🙌 You understand.
"All your viewers must know what an atom is already"; this is a gross overstatement, Lee. You're on TH-cam.
Physicists still don’t know what light is and they still don’t know what consciousness is. They can describe their qualities of off observational characteristics but don’t know how either work or exist at all. Walter Russell’s work was an attempt to explain both in great detail. 3rd graders understand atoms are particles that are just really really teeny tiny. That’s all this chemist knows about them too except he can recite all the different ones and their characteristics provided by other limited understandings of what a particle of matter is. The term “particle” is a lazy convenient way of describing a system of wave actions. Limited intellects can only think of particles as solid objects so that’s how they teach it and how most conceive it. To comprehend the wave aspects of particles isn’t that great of a leap. Waves are expressed in curvature. This curvature is expressed as spiral vortices not “up and down” curved two dimensional lines. Waves are a function of electrical/magnetic forces. The foundation of what this electricity and magnetism really is, is what Russell explained in his work. When you understand these fundamentals, you can then properly manipulate the structures these fundamentals create and how they interact with each other. Once humanity makes this leap, very little will be impossible and there will never be scarcity of anything.
@@charlesp7504No that's not how it works, physics is NOT just about characteristic but about MECHANISM, that's the whole reason why we are able to build technology. You see, engineers put things together in creative ways, but those parts are based on sound theoretical groundwork done prior by scientists working in materials science, physics etc. Whatever device you're using to post your comment, be it a phone, laptop, whatever, it's essentially a computer. All computers use processors which are packed with transistors. A transistor is based precisely on a SOUND understanding of electricity, of the flow of electrons, and how to control that flow to create a switch which can act as a conductor in one direction, and a resistor in the other. Semiconductors are doped silicon, so basically silicon that is treated to have desired characteristics because those desired characteristics provide the proper MECHANISM for the flow of electrons as understood by the theoretical groundwork laid out by physicists.
all of you knowitall commenters in these channels... you are like drivers in cars. like 90% of you think you are doing it right, and you actually suck at it.
@@charlesp7504 Lack of scarcity poses a problem for those that benefit from such scarcity. Capitalism evaporates, Banking becomes irrelevant.
@@amonnanjaku Yes, paradigms will change but forms of capitalism will always exist. Even in the strictest communist countries, people still try to figure out ways they can trade labor for more food and basic necessities. If freedom of being survives, innovation will still be motivated by reward. If freedom of being doesn’t survive and totalitarianism determines allocation of resources, then it doesn’t matter how much abundance exists as those resources will be utilized for coercion and control which is the threshold we’re in now. Capitalism isn’t the devil in this world, the devils are and they like power and control and in no way would they want to share anything with billions of peasants when they could have a whole world to themselves.
Love how you both approached this, both open-minded and trying to understand. Would be great to see you guys interviewing Terrence and help him articulate his idea better
Yet they are not very embracing of the arts at all.
I take that back. // For some reason the NEED to distance themselves FORM the arts (in relation to their scientific work. And their very IDENTY as men of science.)
Same thing the way the ancient Sufi mystics spoke of the Aether of Space, yet I've spoke to nuclear physicsts from Los Alamos Labs (I'm a Classical pianist from New Mexico), and they would just sort of laugh-off the concept of The Aether as some sort of archaic voodoo. Modern science literally lives in fear of it's bubble being popped at any moment!
(See me at: _The Acoustic Rabbit Hole_)
THIS 👆💯 is why i respect Kurt and his platform.
They were by no means open minded and trying to understand. They were dismissive and condescending only to make you do the same thing. That’s very disingenuous and dishonest and a slap to your face.
Absolutely not open minded. Are you kidding? Those of us who listened to the 3 hour conversation could instantly tell Lee was just chiming in Willy Nilly on a clip he was sent. Furthermore, a so called expert chemist not even being remotely familiar with the “key of E” was a bit alarming to me. Wait a minute, dude, you never had an elementary school music class and you’re an esteemed chemist? Haha, ok man, you probably need to get out of the lab for a while.
They’re talking down about TH as if they’re smarter than him.
I really appreciate the general respectful discourse in this conversation.
To all my fellow stupid people tuning in... :)
As soon as they missed the reference to "Key of E', did you feel slightly smarter than everyone else in the room??
I felt superior in that moment.
Don't get used to it. It's your peak point of life i'm sure.
I felt like a G (knee us).
I feel connected to the flower of life now
@@MrRizzyWizzy Lol
@@MrRizzyWizzy you're why it'll all end anyway.
Absorption spectrum of an element is a function of the number of electrons in the atom. This absorption spectrum is correlated to a specific frequency of light. A musical note is correlated to frequencies of sound waves.
The musical note of A is correlated with a frequency of 440Hz. The frequency spectrum of hydrogen is correlated with wavelengths of 410 nm (violet), 434 nm (blue), 486 nm (blue-green), and 656 nm (red).
Here’s what I think Terence is doing. Both musical notes and elements are correlated with one or more frequencies. In music theory terms it’s possible for two different tones to be the same note, but an octave apart. E.g., a tone of 440Hz and 880Hz are both the note of A, but an octave apart. So, what if something similar is happening with the elements?
Of course, elements are different and the way they work will not be the same as musical notes work. Hydrogen is correlated to multiple frequencies. So, applying the same logic to elements would be a mistake. But the hypothesis of Terence is that there is a property of atoms (elements) that can be scaled (e.g. x2, like in musical notes) and you would end up with the same element, but different. Different frequencies but the same element. Just like music.
In music terms it’s perfectly fine to call two different tones the same note. Our music tradition/theory can support this. Our physics theory cannot support this argument. It might be perfectly reasonable to hypothesize that elements work in the “same” way that musical notes do. But we lack the theory of physics to explain why it would.
Terence’s hypothesis lacks a clear explanation of why we should look at elements in this way though. What is the benefit of thinking like this? But, I would like to compare it to Copernicus and his theory that the earth rotated around the sun. In 1543 why would it matter that the earth rotates around the sun and not the other way around? To me the idea of Terence is worthy of scientific research.
His claims doesn't make much sense because there is a multitude of frequencies emitted be every element. Therefore I haven't put too much time into this.
Hydrogen: The most prominent emission line is the Balmer series, especially the H-alpha line at approximately 656.3 nm, 4.57×10144.57×10^14 Hz.
Carbon: The prominent lines are in the visible spectrum around 658.0 nm (C II) and 723.1 nm (C I), 4.56×10144.56×10^14 Hz and 4.15×10144.15×10^14 Hz.
Silicon: Prominent lines are at 251.6 nm (Si I) and 288.1 nm (Si II), 1.19×10151.19×10^15 Hz and 1.04×10151.04×10^15 Hz.
Cobalt: Prominent lines include 345.4 nm (Co I) and 412.1 nm (Co I), 8.68×10148.68×10^14 Hz and 7.28×10147.28×10^14 Hz.
Rhodium: Rhodium does not have prominent lines in the visible spectrum, but significant lines are in the UV range, such as 343.5 nm and 369.2 nm, 8.73×10148.73×10^14 Hz and 8.12×10148.12×10^14 Hz.
While there are some close matches and potential octave relationships, the frequencies do not consistently align to suggest that they represent the same musical note across different octaves. The alignment to musical notes appears to be more coincidental rather than a strict scientific relationship based on the frequencies.
Absolute nonsense. Terrence is talking gibberish that is worth less than the sound my dog makes when it farts.
@@tomnolan4146 Based
@@tomnolan4146 I'm saying your response is fitting.
@@CriticalDispatches my apologies, I took it the wrong way.
3:35 he says same key of E, he is talking about music and harmonics, not kiloelectronvolts. So if you look at the emission spectrum they look similar to the sound spectrum. Specifically when you compare groups of elements to tones. You need someone that understands music theory and chemistry to comment properly, certainly not I.
Stephon Alexander might have some interesting comments.
I see E as yellow. And triangle I shape. In fact, I see every note as a specific color shape. // So it find it rather startling how dismissive the host and inverviewee are being! Where is the science....of poetry!
@@Acoustic-Rabbit-Hole I did not like the tone either, Curt is usually better than this.
@@radical137 He needs to stop being so "curt" in his responses. (Ha. Couldn't resit that one.).
I'm so happy you responded. People often get so trigged by be the I'm made to disappear in a matter of MINUTES!
Mr. Radical, DO see my work here. You will LITERALLY be BLOW AWAY (into another dimension!).
- The Acoustic Rabbit Hole_
@@Acoustic-Rabbit-Hole I recognize a fellow eccentric Platonist, I'll be the one doing the triggering if you don't mind, that is what I am used to.
I'm impressed with the level of respect on your show Curt. I decided tonight to circle back to Terrence Howard's claims from the other week, start plugging in searches for some physics dedicated minds that have something to say on the subject. I'm not generally into watching people attack other people for putting themselves out there. Sadly these seem to be the majority of the content related to Terrences JRE appearance. You guys maintained both respect and Even complimented him for his creativeness as well as leaving some open-mindedness for the subtle possibility that some of his claims to carry some creedence. And even though you can tell your guest finds some of the theories fairly ridiculous, he still maintains a respectful narrative. I clicked on ur video Curt because I knew it would be informative and respectful ✊
I love how they play like 2 words at a time and then pause the video and try to explain what he says.
It doesn't take much more to realize what he was saying wasn't making sense. It didn't make sense to you. Doesn't make sense to actual scientists. They were very polite the way you would be with a 4 year old.
Because he is talking out of his ass andd they are trying to make sure well meaning people aren’t falling for his bullshit. Like MAGA retards falling for the latest right wing grift, you know the type.
🤣🤣
I know right
😂😂 Yeah so much nonsense so densely packed in.
I just came upon your channel and I love how you and the Professor handle the matter in a respectful way not like some of the other experts on TH-cam, It is a hard subscribe, like and follow for your channel I am glad I stumbled on it keep up the good work bro.
I appreciate that
I think it is disgusting that they are not calling his gibberish exactly what it is! This nonsense needs to be called for what it is. FFS this will be the downfall of humanity!! The fact that a man throwing around word salad that absolutely means nothing, makes him some sort of genius is just laughable!
Terrence howard a perfect example of how you can't rationalize someone out of a bad argument if they came to their conclusion irrationally. There's nothing rational about him remembering being in the womb doing math and 'discovering' that 1*1 actually equals 2. There's no amount of arguing against that
I agree. The problem with this guy is that he doesn't even have a solid understanding of basic level chemistry, math or physics but goes ahead and just creates his own reality. Typical narcissist. This guy is out there, but not smart.
There is no rationalizing with his followers either.
My bet is on Schizophrenia
Dont worry, in 70 years they will all agree that what Terrence said was truth and it will become common knowledge, we are too arrogant to acknowledge the flaws in our current knowledge.
@@808FeeAsking someone their opinion about someone or a subject, that admits they didn't even study or watch the subject matter. Is like asking a Worm, How do Birds Fly.
Also, Thousands of years ago Newton supposedly discovered Gravity. When he explained it to the Common Man, did Newton have a Basic Understanding of it? Remember, Someone always has to be first at Understanding something, before Another Understands it. Then it becomes easy or common knowledge.
Both of these two, missed what Terrence is saying or explaining.
I am going to go out on a limb and say, kudos to Terrence Howard! He has sparked scientific curiosity in the average person. You guys are the fifth 'scientists' (sorry for lumping you all together) I have listened to while trying to understand Terrence's theories. If you get a couple hundred airheads like me you could be doing mankind a favor. Think of all the unwatched TikTok videos😅
He is saying our math and science is tone deaf!
its isnt tone deaf, it is already known the music tones of elements nothing he said was new it was just said to the masses for the first time on a huge podcast
Imagine farted in space, does it smell? Exactly 💯
Wow great wording. I see what u did there
Who is Imagine?
Yes, the music they play does taste a little funky.
Terrence Howard's summation his scientific views as "allegorical" is not as allegorical as it seems. The color of yellow is E. I SEE the E as yellow, and also as triangular in shape. I actually see a color-shape for EACH note. Also, Mr. Howard explicitly stated that "it's the same exact tone, the same color, just doubled." Therefore the lower frequency would NOT be audible. Which, Terrence does go on to explain at bout 4:30. The point that Terrance Howard is making is that there is a definite and definable,pattered parallel between sound and light.
I'm a musician. A Classical pianist. My interest lies is how the elements relate to theme and lyrics in music. For example, I see A as the most grounded or "earthy" note (by nature of how it sounds in isolation). I see A as blue-violet. A sort of Indio-blue (and oval in shape). So, I realized that A is less personal (human/biogical), and rather, more cosmic and universal. Look at the expansive epic-ness of Led Zeppelin's "Kashmir." That's the sound of the breadth of the Universe itself. Indigo Blue. As far as what periodic element that frequency of A is, I don't know. I am a mere musician.
The guest at 11:20 "It's not "bad," but It's not correct to SAY that about the elements. That's not what they do. There is no mystery to the periodic table with respect to these numbers."
Yet, apparently there is. And it's even in color. // And that's about the ONLY thing that Mr. Howard is trying to convey here. Terrence is not a degreed chemist; He's trying to let us know (as I myself am thru my pitch analysis and my Theory of Pitch Psychology) that language of science must change if our minds are actually going to evolve. Because the language of contemporary science since at least the 1950's has been harboring a very limited, Descartian,/Euclidean mind-set that only creates great, cavernous boarders and limits to our thinking as men of science. There's a _reason_ why the scientist Mrs. Sabine Hossenfelder is an atheist. Science has been in a metaphysical crisis for a LONG TIME.
Who is to say that the elements CAN'T affect our psychology, mood, and temperament? They try to "Uncle-Tom" poor Terrence Howard with polite, "humane" dismissiveness. Yet it is THEY who refuse to see the connection. Less they be perceived as "anti-science." Art, like God, is truly dead.
I love the Theories of Everything channel, and I'm a subscriber. But the guys are truly not only missing the point on this one, but they are dismissing the very baby that they are about to show out with the bathwater.
Incidentally, my keyboard-invention, my Musicolor Matrix is laid out in the SHAPE of a periodic table. Only with the chromatic note names replaced with a color-shape. You can watch me play off of my Matrix in real time in my videos. And, for those interested in my won work, please find it here at: _The Acoustic Rabbit Hole_
I am really not happy about how people are receiving Mr Terrence's experience....this is one of the reasons I feel he might be right. The opposition is major seemingly
@@Neymarraps_ona100 Dood! Yes! I am synesthete and musican. See my work here. My Musicolor Matrix and my Theory of Pitch Psychology.
Your, _Acoustic Rabbit Hole_
@@Neymarraps_ona100 You are too kind. I"m SO HAPPY that you responded. I was worried that my comments wood have bin, let's just say, _put on hold._ (As they often are).
@@Neymarraps_ona100 the amount of establishment backlash or complaining is usually proportional to how correct someone with a new theory is in human society
You should have been on the episode, not some chemist who’s mired in traditional thinking.
I like that you guys weren't dismissive. Terrence is trying to make sense of the world. He has a hypothesis, and he is trying to prove it, which is cool. If 50% of what he says is correct, even 10%, would be okay.
@aliengreeter I think he understands basic math he doesn't agree with it. he's tapping into philosophy/spirituality instead of the scientific method. I think he has some hard work ahead of him to try to prove his hypothesis. I take this over the flat earthers. P.S. I like his sun gave birth to Planets explanation.
@@NSAAMediaPlus you like his explanation that the sun poops out the planets and that the big red spot of Jupiter will one day become a moon? It's fun to think about in a sci-fi way but it's utter nonsense with zero basis in reality and there isn't a shred of evidence for it other than Terry saying so. (Which isn't actually evidence)
@@NSAAMediaPlus He also said that the storm on Jupiter will give birth to a planet ! A storm making a planet ! Totally stupid, as almost anything he say, This guy is at a high level of narcissism and delusion, he needs medical help.
@@NSAAMediaPlus basic math is 1 x 1 = 2?
@@MrRizzyWizzy I think he used that as an attention-getter. because if you have one dollar and multiply it you get two. it's a math trick. the multiplication table is a function not really a law. he is making the point that the universe multiplies the first way. he even said in the podcast that currency should be calculated the traditional way.
fundamentally he is saying everything is created out of the ether; thus "elements" seem different due to charge aka "winding"(this would be represented in # of electrons/protons/neutrons) the "tone" is where on the "winding" elements align. If you look at a vortex from the side you see a cone(point at bottom), if you start at the bottom and get wider at the top then you get more charge as you go up. now if you look at the vortex at the top looking down you see the higher charge on the outside rings and as you move to the center less charge; the "tone" is where elements align in the spiral"winding" in this perspective. or at least that's how I'm understanding TH's perspective.
How do you jump from the "Key of E" in terms of frequency or resonance to the atomic absoption of specific chemicals? If you're not sure what he said, perhaps turn on the subtitles.
Its a lot of gishgallop, with some word salad and a lot of bullshit mixed in.
@@nebtheweb8885😂😂😂
@@Thor27609that's wasn't funny. You're the algorithm for destroying humanity. Help out, continue in your ignorance as if you have any idea
@@nebtheweb8885and then your ignorance thrown into the comments
Curt.. If you can get TH on, it will be the catalyst you've been waiting for. You are the best person for the job. I wish you the best of luck in securing the opportunity.
I lost it when the mans said, the sun's light rays are "nice straight lines" not realize that all light is waves . . .
Actually the photons wave-particle duality. The classical term of wave or particle cannot describe their behavior so they are kinda both.
Light ray instead is an optical term for a line that is perpendicular to the lights waves etc. Light rays can be straight or curved.
"They got confused by their eyes"
He's right about that statement, at least. Google something along the lines of sun rays straight. Sunlight is unique in that way, I forget what it's called... Collimated? It's the same principle as those special water nozzles that make the stream look like it's completely still, because the water comes out straight, all in the same direction.
You do realize that he's talking about the spectrograph of the sun on which you can see clear lines. If you want to look it up yourself its called fraunhofer lines.
(he wasn't talking about the beams but of a spectrum of frequencies)
Per Relativity all space-time is curved. Making an actual straight line would be the equivalent of folding space. If you include time and remember we are on a planet in orbital (circular) motion around a star, rotating about its own axis, and rotating around the galaxy, etc then the straight line you draw on a piece of paper is actually curved. It only appears straight relative to you and because the arc is so wide.
Terrance got everyone talking that in it's self. Shows he on to something
When he says keep dividing by 2 he is talking about dropping the "octave" of the absorption spectra frequency(ies) until it can be understood as a note or notes like in a key or a chord. How that is useful isn't explained in the clips discussed here, though. Electromagnetic waves in the visible light spectrum and compression waves for sound aren't the same, of course.
I think what he is saying is at a fundamental singularity level where all matter is one, that light, sound , color , and shape all came from the same beginning, they are all connected and related. So if something has a color it also has a sound , and it also has a shape of that same frequency wave. So if say hydrogen is in the light spectrum at we will just say 700hz, you can find the sound hydrogen makes by finding the corresponding frequency that matches with the light by dividing it. Which shape would be similar to putting a bunch of sand on a table , sending frequency through the table and each different frequency with make its own shape in the sand.
Word Salad....
The trick that charlatans like Terrance employ is to use vague word salads, so that people do what this guy ^^ is doing... filling in the blank spaces with what he 'thinks the guy may mean'
@@hellraiser7118 like cymatics?
@bschmidt1 "widely understood concepts" makes it true? Or can we take concepts and apply them however?
i think he was referring to Prima Materia when talking about "they are all the same substance", just under different frequencies
I think you play too many video games😅....myself as well for understanding 🤔 😅
He did, he means the aether is the Prima Materia
The ether, exactly. Everything is one substance-that’s what Terence is getting at.
@@rolsen1304no light itself is the the prima matria from which the expanded and contracted poles emerge (ether being the expanded). It’s the water to the waves on the ocean. It’s from Walter russells work
@@pooman2 Yeah that would jive with the Hermetic view of reality as well then. Thank you for clarifying, I need to listen to this podcast.
When you’re this intelligent, and don’t know what “Key of E” is! I’m humbled. I did chuckle at this part of the interview.
I really do hope Terrence replies to you and gets on the pod! Perfect platform for this conversation!
😂😂
@aliengreeter are you having a stroke?
Aren’t people allowed to find something funny and be human?
Have you eaten? You could be a little hangry if my comment has caused your emotions to arise negatively.
@aliengreeter and your feel like a genius right👏👏
So true. Important for experts to appreciate how focused their expertise will be.
@@ElinaCmd it's "you're" not "your". And that is not even the correct grammar, it's supposed to be "you feel like a genius". 👏
I really appreciate the constructive dialog exploring different points of view. The existence of your podcast is invaluable. Thank you!
Glad you’re enjoying!
No matter what anyone thinks sound manipulates matter and creates patterns depending on the frequency cymatics
He said “the same Key of E” like key in music, E2 would be double E1 as it’s an octaves above E1. As E3 would be an octave above and therefore double E2. I think all the good musicians understood this. I’m a professional musician so I picked this up fairly quick but these are “scientists,”so this, probably, is hard for them to grasp quickly.
it would be quadruple the frequency, 2 octaves higher.
In regards to the colors he is referring to frequency divisions. For instance Green vibrates at 530-600 hertz or vibrations per second. He is talking about divisions and multiple of these numbers represent similar elements and similar colors. Frequencies above violet are not visible to us but divided equally over and over they will make their way into visible light and divided further will become elements. He referred to the Key of E - this is because sound (and music) also are reflected as hertz or frequencies. Honestly, it all makes sense to me.
From what I understand, though I am not sure of this, solids and matter start to exist at frequencies below 16 Hertz. The vast majority of matter are fractions of 1 hertz.
I'm sorry but you are deeply confused. First of all the frequency of light is expressed in terahertz - meaning trillion cycles per second. Second of all sound is a vibration of matter. Light is a vibration of electromagnetic field - those are different. Yes - photons are treated as particles but they are not matter. But most important of all is that you cannot say that just because math can describe different phenomena using numbers it means that these phenomena are the same. Symbolic relationship doesn't imply oneness. Would you agree if I told you that the seasonal cycle is the same as the menstrual cycle (both natural cycles) just because if you divided the former's frequency you would end up with the latter's one ?
Woe..
Big up Lee! Can easily say he is my favorite chemist and consistently explains complex things in a digestible and interesting way. His explanations often borders on philosophical
He's not saying they are the same element. He's saying that certain elements have a relationship.
He’s making analogies, he’s clearly got Synthestesia. He’s cross wiring different perceptions.
He’s comparing the difference in elements, to different keys of the same note on a piano.
He’s reflecting that the periodic table should reflect a fractal understanding of reality where each element exhibits self similarity but at different energy levels, rather than discrete way that scientists currently interpret them.
I don’t know if it’s right but that seems to be the most accurate way to understand it.
We've already known that elements have a relationship, that's what determined the arrangement of the periodic table, every column has elements that have a relationship, namely the same number of electrons in the outer most shells. This idea is almost 200 years old. The rest of what he is saying is mystical woo.
@@Dedicated_.1 well he did specify spectrometer
@@Dedicated_.1 Did he say anything about experiencing symptoms of synesthesia? This all appears to be the result of manic binging pseudo scientific youtube videos. I guarantee this guy has watched every Spirit Science video and believed it all.
That's not what he said.... Don't fucking completely change what he said and claim it's what was said.... He clearly states that they are indeed the SAME ELEMENT
"Go back to the wiggly one" always makes me laugh.
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i am actually putting together a presentation right now to bridge the gap between what Terrence Howard is saying, the Walter Russell periodic tables and the mainstream chemistry understanding of your guest
Thanks!
Thanks so much!
Thank you so much for breaking this down! I love learning, that's why I subscribe to your channel.
When people go public with " I sent an invite and have not received a response" it should rarely be taken in good faith.
why
@@devvvvvvvvvvvv always a great question, and rarely answered in good faith.
@@devvvvvvvvvvvv😂
That’s nonsense
But I sent an email... Basically an invite amirite guise?
Scientists are glitching out right now
Hard 😂
Terrence has their heads spinning, I love it.
Yep😂
Naw they’re just baffled as to how anyone is believing any of Mr Howard’s nonsense
Indeed.. shocked at the level of gullibility of the average citizen.
It would be really interesting to watch a video that involves Terrence Howard, Curt Jaimungal and Lee Cronin talking to each other, discussing what could be right and wrong about mathematics, and the elements and chemicals that are involved
This video is exactly what I needed, proper discussion, discourse, not just dismissal. 👏👏👏👏
Both of these gentlemen are right extremely warm and courteous, both to each each other and regarding Terrence. I just can’t help but be dumbfounded by the lack of understanding, particularly on the part of the professor, of Terrence’s work. The Man has 95 patents to his name, most of which are based in an entirely different scientific system as he outlines at a very high level during his interview with Rogan. Several times in this video the professor says something like, “that’s not how modern chemist do their work” as some sort of evidence against the validity of Terrence concepts. The whole point of Terrence‘s work as well as the work of Robert Edward Grant and Walter Russell is that we can interact with the universe and the laws of physics in a fundamentally different way if we reinterpret some of the fundamentals we may be even just a little bit off. That’s why one time one equals two argument is so important. Because although the good professor here seems to completely miss it, the one times one concept represents a fundamental change in the most basic levels of mathematics and are understanding of physics and chemistry. Check out Robert Edward Grant and really dig into the work of Walter Russell. I will say though, if you’re only refutation to his work is that “ we don’t do it that way at my job”, you are literally missing the whole point. His models work, his concepts have been used to create real world technologies that are used by some of the top companies on earth. You gentlemen are worthy of respect in my book, and I would love to see you both take a little closer look at the broader context and background of work, particularly with Walter Russell and Robert Edward Grant. Best wishes 🙏
I look forward to seeing the practical applications of Terrence's discoveries...... I'll wait.....
Terrence Howard makes being curious fun I can’t help but smile when I start to think of some of the concepts he’s presenting. I’m really glad that you took on the challenge to review some of his comments; much appreciated.
The thing is he doesn't promote curiosity. He's spreading misinformation and using old pseudoscientific ideas from other people and just claiming it's his. Nothing he presents is worth your time my friend. He is a liar and a charlatan. Scientific results only, anything that goes to pseudoscience is unreliable. His mentality is like oke of a cult leader. Please be very careful because his enticing "charm" is what hooks you into believing complete fantastical garbage that has no applications to your life.
10:54 “I must admit I was incredibly confused” has me dying 😂😂
If the elements in the periodic table were really oscillating at the frequencies that he claims, then we would be able to hear them since those frequencies that he cited are within the normal range of human hearing.
not only that but when multiplying by 2 every time.... that number goes into and past the visible spectrum VERY quickly lol.
@@Fleato Exactly. The visible spectrum is less than one octave. Terrence may have redefined the term octave. Or he may be operating on another plane of reality.
I guess "key of E" means the 3rd musical note, mi, and that's why he says those elements "are the same tone, just doubled in each octave" (3:10). He's talking about sounds and associating sounds to the chemical elements.
That is, this needs WAY more clarification. He only scratches the surface of what he tries to convey.
@aliengreeter he does understand
First of all, it's not his. It comes from Walter russel. Second of all, he couldn't even really adequately explain that.
The tone thing has validity but he didn't even explain it right. Walter russel wasn't talking about the sound we think is sound. He was talking about how gravity has octaves of compression and expansion. And these elements are at different stages of that. He likened it to the way sound works in the sense that air escaping produces a sound. Well matter has energy escaping (gravity compressing inward produces an equal reaction of expansion outward) and that produces a signature. In this case, radiation. They aren't literal keys like on a piano.
I understood what he was saying and where he was getting some of these ideas. He didnt make them up. It was established science at one point. Also he is not wrong about math being linerly expressed and also in 2 dimensions which greatly limits its symbiosis with the multi dimensional world we are trying to marry it to
Nah, he got it from Walter russel
3:27 I love how the 2 gentlemen in this video are so versed in their subjects of theoretical physics (host) and chemistry (guest), that they couldn't even possibly fathom that a person would compare the periodic table of elements to musical keys. LMAO.
The concept of comparing elements of the periodic table to specific musical pitches is a stretch at best, and preposterously laughable at worst.
Terrence Howard is talking about mass spectrometry when he refers to spectrometer at 1:17. The unit of spectrometry is m/z (mass number divided by charge number). But Terrence is talking about Hertz, which measures frequency. More specifically, Terrence is referring to the frequency of soundwaves e.g. 440Hz the audio frequency that corresponds to the musical pitch "A".
So right off the bat, Terrence demonstrates that he is comparing two different units of measurement, which also proves he doesn't understand mass spectrometry, and is just saying words that don't make sense.
Since the guys in this video are actually Subject Matter Experts, they can't even comprehend that someone could make such an ignorant statement. In addition to that, they're trying to be nice and give Terrence the benefit of the doubt.
Literally 5 minutes into this video, it's already entertaining on so many levels. LOL. This video truly contains multitudes.
Terrence Howard is certainly getting a lot of attention. Exploring WHY that's happening might be interesting.
It's because it's easier to not follow the rules of science and make unsubstantiated claims than it is to learn actual science. Terrence goes off on something that causes people to wonder, and having no real formal training in these hard sciences, they aren't able to validate the rubbish. They draw their own conclusions from what he says, and then say he's making sense to them. Not because what he says is right, but because they can "understand" it. Everyone marvels at the mysteries of the universe, but very few can actually back up that understanding and go through the difficulties of learning it. Everyone wonders about these things, which is why they catch on, and if you don't have a framework for dealing with these sorts of questions, then you can easily accept anything. Just because something feels right to you is meaningless. That is determined by your personal experiences and feelings, which never line up with the unforgiving truth. So many times have I had a gut feeling about something to only be put to shame when I actually sit down and run the numbers.
People also want to believe there is some hidden truth that's just waiting for them to discover or be bestowed upon them by some prophet that's at odds with established paradigms. And if they don't have to validate their understanding through rigorous scientific coursework, even better!
@@morningstarsci - funny, Semmelweis said that about handwashing too.
Yes, I agree. I caught his ideas a few months ago and couldn't disprove them in my mind. I then saw him at Oxford Union, so ok, someone cares. Then JRE, and I was side-eyeing it. But, as Howard said, his programmer referred to the settings for the model. Science can falsify it or not. It won't take long. ;)
@@morningstarsci Still, I wonder what he is selling... is it hope? Magic? A link to esoteric knowledge that implies a Creator and an order to things... My academic background is Biology so I'm not one of his Followers, just curious why he has so many.
@astraltraveler257 My background is computer science and computational chemistry. I think it's a form of new age magic or alchemy. Chemistry came from alchemy. Alchemists didn't understand what they were working with, and through refinement and eventual application of the scientific process we were finally able to break through the vale that alchemy had kept over our eyes and kept us from progressing. It was a wrong theory and framework for dealing with the natural world. It would be incorrect to say that nothing could come from what Terrence and others are talking about because it does cause people to wonder and explore, but the current form of his discussion will go no where. Science builds staging that allows you to reach and understand that next level. It's almost impossible to make any sort of leap without going through all the in-betweens to get there. If anything, these topics are wayyy before there time, or they are rubbish. We really have no way of proving or disproving because what he talks about has no connection with our current understanding of the world. So, it's like magic. Yes, we eventually shook off our magical understanding of the world and came to find real explanations for how the wind moves and what those lights are in the sky, but it wasn't magic that got us there. Its that we got there in spite of magic. Same here. Just because we eventually come to some geometric understanding of the universe does not mean Terrence was right. Just because Terrence says the world is governed by frequency doesn't mean that he gets to claim anything that is discovered that has a periodic nature to it.
Firstly, his argument is that using Newtonian physics to explain chemistry is inadequate. He asserts that scalar quantities are essential for understanding electromagnetic properties. Consequently, the sounds and appearances of elements are closely interrelated; one cannot be fully comprehended without the other. Dmitri Mendeleev, however, did not take this aspect into account in his formulation of the periodic table. If you can’t explain the true meaning of mass for more than 100 years you have to consider the Howard’s of this time.
Newtonian-ism/fundementalism is dead
Invite Terrence Howard to an interview.
He would be wasting his and your time.
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@@pandaketamine You should rewatch the entire interview another 3 more times minimal. Lots of others had to. 🤷🫡
Invite Professor Dave to deabte Howard, watch Dave debunk Terrence on his channel
@@ShayzareI think I can explain this:
Terrence says the Arizona Cardinals are the #1 team. You then say according to their record they are 4 wins and 13 losses and one of the worst teams.
But you are looking at it wrong. They are #1 alphabetically. That's kinda what he is doing but then you realize he isn't using the NFL standings, he uses theor alphabetical order to explain why Arizona Cardnials are the #1 Hockey team instead of football. When you try to correct him by saying "wtf"... a bunch of people who know nothing about NFL or NHL say he isn't wrong you don't understand his genius.
and i also love how Curt Jaimungal navigates everything with brilliant openness , and sees were the level of understanding is really a big factor
This reminds me of Bob Lazaars "Element 115". He made a seemingly profound commentary about the periodic table, but elements get discovered and are assigned a number and eventually an element would be "element 115".
Except Lazar called it Unimpintium element 115 30 years before it wax discovered . At the time there was only 92 elements known.
Bob's situation was a bit different and may actually be authentic
Bob didn't say he discovered it either and he wasnt saying there was secret maths that only he had the keys to understanding.
the people who dont get what you said cant contextualize your point.
@@timpage5021 Lazar has been exposed lol he made up his whole story
This theory by Terrence Howard is based on a ladder of sorts. This ladder is thought to emerge in the natural world as in how tonalities distribute, frequencies harmonise, inference patterns and so on.
This ladder/scale is assumed to be universal and thus assembles the universe and all in it depending on this scale.
2PIR as a basal tone so to speak, which is also where the angle of the hexagon (120°) is derived from as a constituent to the scale and derived harmonics.
Yes. This is a sensible skeleton as it also reflects how information primitives emerge.
The difficulty is that to linear science thinking people this does not make sense since it resembles fitting reality to an assumption.
But has anyone tried to do alchemy with sound waves at the right hrtz?
thats the thing, a human would prolly evaporate with the right conditions needed to do such a task
@@cueshq789 Bro, my buddy, Shark Butt, he straight up did that ish, bro. Took his dad's Mazda (cause it has the gnarliest Bose sound system in the world) and he smoked way too much skunk weed. Not, like, Marijuana, like, this plant that grows here, it stinks like shit, and it does not get you high. So, Shark Butt smoked a whole bunch of that ish, and then played some of the dopest dubstep the world never saw, feel me? Anyways, his aluminum nitrous cracker turned into gold. Like, he showed me. That ish was so gold, you could barely see the spray paint chipping off it. A few days later, my buddy got shot by a cop. Cop says it was because Shark Butt (real name: Randall Zitpicker) was running naked with a machine gun at a mormon church. That's the official story, but I know the truth. And now, you know the truth, too.
Aight, shiz-lickerz, I'm out. Remember: When they prescribe Prozac; you smoke crack.
When Graham Bell invented the telephone, he found 2 missed calls from me.
This is a case study of what happens when someone doesn't think it's important to actually do the hard work to understand the fundamentals of a field, and instead thinks they can simply hopscotch through a superficial understanding of concepts and string unrelated things together through false analogies and salad or words that they think is related in their mind. Having a large number of patents to their name -- it simply means they have the financial resources to hire patent attorneys to push cockamamy, seemingly original, "inventions" through the patent system.
I thought Terrence was talking about music by saying "key of E". Is that not what he meant?
He's talking about chemistry. Elements don't have "key signatures". Just absolute gibberish.
Yea I believe you are right, he talks about how it doubles in each octive you go up.
I think some of the chemists are misunderstanding that part of his explanation.
@@terryedmondson2792 No one is missing anything. He's just baffling you with bullshit. You've never passed a higher math, physics, or chemistry course in your life, and you therefore *don't know what you don't know*. You're not in a position to judge.
Go on Khan Academy. There are free courses you can take. I barely graduated high school - and went on to teach myself a ton of math on that site. Years later, I've got a PhD in Biomedical Engineering.
I'm not trying to be an asshole. I'm saying, I remember being about 18 and not able to tell the difference between stuff that sounds like science, and actual science. Then I applied myself, and my head is screwed on straight.
Please, have some humility to realize that your ignorance isn't as good as my years of hard work. You can take it under good authority - Terrance is utterly delusional. Like... not mistaken. But if he weren't a celebrity, and he presented to a psychiatrist saying these things, he'd rightly be medicated.
@@terryedmondson2792 Can you explain it then? Please, do try...
How can you guys be so dense to not understand that he's referring to frequency and wavelength? Key of E not KeV. As in musical notes. There are harmonics and octaves in notes, that's what his analogy is! I'm an electrical engineer, and I understood what he was referring to!
Because that makes no sense when discussing the periodic table. They were giving him the benefit of the doubt. You are essentially removing that doubt and proving Terrence knows nothing.
Then you should have understood it was blatant nonsense and saved yourself the extreme embarrassment of your comment.
He is saying that hydrogen, on a spectrometer, appears in a band that has a number value. That number value, when translated to hertz, gives us an imperceivable sound. When we drop that tone down to the audible spectrum, we get roughly the key of D Flat. I don't know why Terry thinks it's E, it's very clearly in the band of D Flat, but it doesn't matter.
Terry relating hydrogen to sound because he looked at a spectrometer and saw a similar number, is akin to relating an airplane to a turtle because they both move. It doesn't matter, and the connection between those things is essentially non-existent, so the real scientist connected Terry's nonsense to something that makes a bit more sense.
@@laartwork They should still address his arguments as presented. Especially since "E" wasn't the only key he was mentioning, so "KeV" as some kind of charitable interpretation still doesn't make any sense. The only thing more annoying than that Howard episode are the debunks that don't properly drill down into what they claim to be drilling down into. It's like I'm having my time wasted two different times.
You don't sound like an electrical engineer. The key of E is an acoustics thing. If you got a EE degree and can't see through Howard's overt BS , I feel sorry for you and the institution that granted you the degree.
This was honestly amazing. Willing to hear Terrance out and appreciative of his interest, however y'all know simple faults in his perspective that he's not willing to accept may actually be wrong.
Im shocked at how forgiving and understanding both are towards Terrance Howard's absolutely nonsensical Rogan podcast. Kudos to both for not being outright dismissive.
They're needlessly feeding a troll. A disappointing undertaking
Can someone please tell me how you can measure the frequency of a periodic element?
Terence Howard is an idiot narcissist, and everyone of his fans is dumber than a flat earther
Everything in existence has a frequency.
If there isn't a frequency then it doesn't exist. Therfore if it exists then there is a frequency to be measured.
I'm not saying I understand the process of how to do it well enough to break down in steps.
But if you understand that everything has a frequency then it should be enough to understand that someone can measure it if they have the know-how.
@@hakimbey2030 fail. The element is made up of tiny particles that have something like a frequency. The element itself does not have a frequency. This idiots ramblings have no truth in then
@@Illumignostic fail? Everything in existence has a frequency… that’s quantum physics 101. Everything in the universe is energy manifested as “atoms”, and energy/atoms is fundamentally vibration. Vibration has one main characteristic, frequency. The frequency of these vibrations determines energy manifests itself.
A cloud is fundamentally no different to a rock. The only difference is the frequency of which the energy vibrates.
If you know how to map these frequencies and how to manipulate them, then you’ll access whole new field of science. It would literally unlock sciences a kin to magic. We would be able to manipulate the substrate of reality like Gods. It would allow us to manipulate reality in the same way a musician manipulates sound.
@@RafaelTopgunStudios so fucking dumb lmao Its not what you say and quantum physics doesnt say that at all either lol
I thought Terrence Howard was an idiot, but it turns out he's a genius. Oh, not a mathematical or scientific genius -- a marketing genius. He has figured out how to write a book that is mostly gibberish, and create a huge controversy to sell it.
100%
Isn't the book free?
He said key of E, look at a piano keyboard and you will understand the relationship between repeating colors and keys repeating
Thats the point its music, it has nothing to do with chemistry. Atom don't have frequency, Terrence don't understand even what frequency means... That was utterly stupid :P
Alchemy is being achieved by plasmoids in Michael Bendall's Thunderstorm generator. I'd love to hear you and Lee's evaluation of that.
The blank stares of trying to figure out key of E and tones analogy is their thought process is locked into mass. The order is arranged by mass. Terence was explaining that table should be arranged by their harmonic ratio and it would be relevant, and not by mass.
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They have no harmonic ratio. That makes zero sense.
Sometimes new age gibberish is just so damn annoying.
Now we need a 3 way discussion - Terrance Howard, Lee Cronin, and Curt Jaimungal 🤣
That train wreck would break the internet.
I would love that. Explicitly invited him. Still waiting. If you have a connection, please reach out to him. - Curt
@@TheoriesofEverything By the way - you did a fantastic job with this. You gave the benefit of the doubt while also doing your best to tether everything to reality... As the comment section reveals - not all of us academics have your finesse. A lesser host wouldn't have the patience you've got. And I seriously admire you for that
@@TheoriesofEverything I'm glad you are in support of "breaking the internet" ...haha....I realize it's your work and income....but, I have to say, the human Soul was better off with Crayons....love your channel....
@@TheoriesofEverything, don't have him, you are going to fool yourselves. Terrence is mentally ill. Nothing he says makes sense
I love how respectful and open this conversation was. True gentlemen. Also true scientists. To quote Greg Braeden, science is never static. It is ever evolving as new evidence presents and changes previously agreed upon answers. The biggest mistake a scientist can make is not being open to change. I am not a scientist and truly didn't understand much of what was discussed here, but it sounds to me like science is about to get very interesting with the emergence of quantum physics and other technologies being revealed. Who knows. It feels like Howard is on to something but maybe has details wrong. I did quickly watch his show and I didn't zero in on the periodic table myself or any of that because I am not a scientist. What I did hear was that we need to consider how sound and frequency affect our mostly water based bodies. THAT is super interesting. I don't discount conspiracy either. With the disclosure project well under way exposing some pretty dark groups working to make things very difficult and dangerous for everyone else, this is where I don't think we should be gullible. Zero point energy sounds very interesting indeed.....whatever the ether is....:)
The professor needs to watch the full jre episode first, to understand how he came to the issues with the standard periodic table
He doesn’t. Pretty sure he got the idea. Also said he already seen some of the interview prior to prepare himself
The problem with the world is people are happy to live in their little boxes. Stay curious.
Yup
@@RayTheTaxGuy For real and if any of his ideas do change anything they will act like they were on board all along.
First of all, it's not his. It comes from Walter russel. Second of all, he couldn't even really adequately explain that.
The tone thing has validity but he didn't even explain it right. Walter russel wasn't talking about the sound we think is sound. He was talking about how gravity has octaves of compression and expansion. And these elements are at different stages of that. He likened it to the way sound works in the sense that air escaping produces a sound. Well matter has energy escaping (gravity compressing inward produces an equal reaction of expansion outward) and that produces a signature. In this case, radiation. They aren't literal keys like on a piano.
I do believe his approach was not using maths, but philosophy. While it is more difficult to interpret, he should get some serious credit for bringing his theories to a conventional academic physicist using standard particle physics computer models to rebuild functional planets in a simulation of the universe.
Y'all where so beautifully gentle. Since I saw the interview, I have been waiting for some accomplished people like yourselves to address it.
Given TH's following you are both quite brave honestly.
Given his spiritual path these last few years, I think TH is trying to associate esoteric/Hermetic principles of everything being Vibration & Energy Frequency to Chemistry like many are doing with Physics these days. Like in Cymatics or Vibrational Levitation. I think he may be trying to figure out how the Pyramids were built using levitation to move the stones with sound vibrations. Which was the same path Walter Russell was on when he created his version of the table.
Thank you.
I actually stumbled on to this channel,I enjoyed it-and the fact it wasn’t disrespectful towards anyones convictions hypothesis or ideas.
I don’t identify as an scientist mathematician or biologist etc.but I am not dumbfounded to understanding some ideas.
While I appreciate the experience and critique as playfulness/resistance to most debates ideas and theories I too believe this inherent inclination to resistance or stubborn (to a degree)is necessary to progress (especially in the field of mathematics/science/biology etc.
What I understood from the Howard’s (bisexual theory) from a (enlightened spirituality)premise is his concept of (dual energy reactivity)ie.YIN YANG FREQUENCY-opposites in its essence and functionality;which does not (oppose)or restrict combust or compete with eachother - yet enhances or and elevate a function of sorts(apply this concept to whatever chemical/biological or mathematical mechanics you want.
I think more then a critique (the greatest minds should always be teachable students)with that said we as a species can make greater advancement when great and bright minds can sit down together at a table and constructively and respectfully investigate (possibility)oppose to trashing ideas that warrants more understanding step by step and without stripping (anyone with a strong premise on a said topic -title or no title)of credibility or and their contribution to stimulate the advancement of an entire human race.
How can you confuse "the key of E" with GEVs, etc?
Not sure you were listening or forming answers while you were supposed to be listening
They were being extremely nice and trying to give him the benefit of the doubt as the key of E has nothing to b do with the periodic table. Maybe he thinks a 150 year old incorrect theory was right... but it wasn't. So they know what the Key if E is but not how it pertains to the periodic table so they were trying to help him.
I think I can explain this:
Terrence says the Arizona Cardinals are the #1 team. You then say according to their record they are 4 wins and 13 losses and one of the worst teams.
But you are looking at it wrong. They are #1 alphabetically. That's kinda what he is doing but then you realize he isn't using the NFL standings, he uses theor alphabetical order to explain why Arizona Cardnials are the #1 Hockey team instead of football. When you try to correct him by saying "wtf"... a bunch of people who know nothing about NFL or NHL say he isn't wrong you don't understand his genius.
Can we agree that Terrence Howard wasnt talking solely from a Chemist's perspective?!?
Howard is full of it. I literally taught myself chemistry (took 15 years) and still terrible at making compounds cause I'm lazy and so on. But even I know this is complete garbage. I got chemistry vids. I even have beryllium reacting with water with hydrochloric acid vid but I can tell you it doesn't react with water at ph7. Beryllium is very stable for its group.
I think I can explain this:
Terrence says the Arizona Cardinals are the #1 team. You then say according to their record they are 4 wins and 13 losses and one of the worst teams.
But you are looking at it wrong. They are #1 alphabetically. That's kinda what he is doing but then you realize he isn't using the NFL standings, he uses theor alphabetical order to explain why Arizona Cardnials are the #1 Hockey team instead of football. When you try to correct him by saying "wtf"... a bunch of people who know nothing about NFL or NHL say he isn't wrong you don't understand his genius.
@@laartworkyou sound really smart repeating your self trying to make Terrence look like he don’t know what he talking about.
*The two people analyzing Terrence got off on the wrong foot by not understanding what hertz means even when Terrence explained it to be frequencies of sound.*
Well that doesn’t apply to atoms, silly.
I bet the scientist knows what Hertz means. I don't think you do, though.
@@xBellevueBallerZx Hertz is a car rental company
@@mikebledsoe2315 and GigaHertz is what it will be called after Elon buys it.
@@CumiaBites but it might actually apply. Keep In mind that domains of study are often specialized.. so a physicist might not understand a musical scale. But there’s a physics professor “Jill Linz” who is trained in music who researched this topic and came to a similar outcome. Look her up
My knowledge of chemistry is literally the GE course they forced me to take to take in my undergraduate. So besides the absolute basics, I truly have no knowledge.
Instead of being outright dismissive. You guys tried to educate people on the subject. It truly does speak volumes about your character, especially in a world that conflict equals high engagement.
I learned a lot, cheers 🥂
Terrence Howard is a genius.
Why?
You ask?.. What he just did was ignite humanity to look at the current science and think outside the box .
Howard's a crazy, just go back to his old message recordings about his techniques in teaching women how to wipe with toilet paper (yes that's real) This would be like listening to Katt Williams about Hollywood conspiracies after watching the video of him being beat up by a 7 year old. (that exists too)
facts the current science has not been look at for years, and has held us back from because everyone is looking through others past theories.
"he kind of introduced the periodic table to lots of people" So he raised questions and started a debate. Isn't that what science is all about?
Yes, except not the way Terrence Howard is doing it. He is attempting to debunk all arguments against him as some grand conspiracy designed to keep people subjugated. He just has no idea what he is talking about most of the time. Reminder, he believes 1x1 = 2, black holes don't exist, that the storm in Jupiter is actually a planet, and that he could remember what he experienced in the womb.
Yup and the other part of science is disproving those hypotheses, then everyone winds up smarter and closer to the truth
I think I can explain this:
Terrence says the Arizona Cardinals are the #1 team. You then say according to their record they are 4 wins and 13 losses and one of the worst teams.
But you are looking at it wrong. They are #1 alphabetically. That's kinda what he is doing but then you realize he isn't using the NFL standings, he uses theor alphabetical order to explain why Arizona Cardnials are the #1 Hockey team instead of football. When you try to correct him by saying "wtf"... a bunch of people who know nothing about NFL or NHL say he isn't wrong you don't understand his genius.
This started with him saying he hasn't watched all of it..... how is he going to understand the context of anything, let alone be the expert on a podcast about the thing he's only watched clips of...... cmonnnnnn Kurt
I love how intelligent Lee Cronin is , and how he explains things