Jim Cornette On The Shockmaster

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  • @TurnbuckleTimes
    @TurnbuckleTimes  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

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  • @ThymeKeeper
    @ThymeKeeper 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +96

    I have never understood, even if nothing went wrong, what they expected to accomplish with the Shockmaster. It would have been a historically bad gimmick even if he stayed upright and the helmet stayed on.

    • @davedavenport8487
      @davedavenport8487 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      He would have won the fuckin title. WCW Heavyweight chhhhhhampion The ShockMASTER!!
      Only bigger missed opportunity was the YETAY!!!

    • @suicidality2744
      @suicidality2744 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly. Everything from the concept to the payoff was terrible. Also, the whole purpose of a mystery partner is to reveal someone who the fans would be happy to see. Even if he didn't fall how were the fans supposed to know who he was under that mask?

    • @MCastleberry1980
      @MCastleberry1980 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Seriously. It's still Tugboat in a sparkly Stormtrooper helmet and Ole Anderson using a silly voice changer. "AT THE FALL BRAWL. AT THE WAR GAMES"

    • @JoypadDivison
      @JoypadDivison 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It would have still been pretty memorable. Better than Mantaur.
      Also Ole didn't use a voice changer to do the voice, I've seen him do it in a shoot interview, he was talking about the Black Scorpion, but it's the exact same voice he did there too.

    • @MissLippy-fy6bj
      @MissLippy-fy6bj 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah that makes it even better.

  • @creoleDJ
    @creoleDJ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    “I told ya! Oh God!”
    Man, Sid had me laughing my ass off with that! Stevie Ray said that Sid saw the board during the initial setup and warned the prop guys that Fred was gonna trip on it if they didn’t move it but they didn’t listen. 🤣🤣

    • @tafua_a
      @tafua_a 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Apparently the prop guy put it there on purpose to fuck with Fred

    • @creoleDJ
      @creoleDJ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@tafua_a Wouldn’t surprise me…might have been someone who was sour on Dusty, and with Fred being related to him, he caught the stray bullet, IF YOU WEEEL! 🤣🤣 Might sound cooky to some but as cut throat as the business is, you never know!

    • @kshinokevin
      @kshinokevin 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ole (Anderson, as the voice of "The Shockmaster"): "Yeah, I fell flat on my (fu#ckin') ass, Davey Boy Smith. Just call me Tugboat Thomas, Typhoon (with the (Canadian) Earthquake, John Tenta), Uncle Fred or the Super Shockmaster. " Tenta was: a Japanese sumo wrestler, the (WCW) Shark, Golga (of the Oddities stable, in the WWF)

    • @WarriorSidMentzer
      @WarriorSidMentzer 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He tried to tell them the board down low was going to trip him

    • @malmalspur
      @malmalspur 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      All the little quips by the other wrestlers makes it a timeless botch.

  • @daveassanowicz186
    @daveassanowicz186 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    It worked out because had they continued using that helmet, Disney would have sued them for past revenue

    • @armenian_nightmare33
      @armenian_nightmare33 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @daveassanowicz186 For looking like a Gay Stormtrooper?😂

    • @CoreyT127
      @CoreyT127 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@armenian_nightmare33Actually? Since he looked gay. They probably would’ve endorsed it!😂😂

    • @creoleDJ
      @creoleDJ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@CoreyT127 The Shockmast-HER! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @JohnWilliams-wl9px
      @JohnWilliams-wl9px 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Disney didn’t own Star Wars yet

  • @pearljam619
    @pearljam619 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Still can hear Davey Boy saying “He’s fell on his arse!”

    • @paulmoneill
      @paulmoneill 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "He fell flat on his ass..he fell flat on his fuckin ass".

    • @kurtboyer299
      @kurtboyer299 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ric Flair says "that's never good" at a perfect quiet moment.

  • @necromora666
    @necromora666 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    Yes Ole was the voice of the Shockmaster

    • @GardenFolklife
      @GardenFolklife 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It will be his most remembered role...aside from crazy racist old man of pro wrestling

  • @tragiksituation
    @tragiksituation 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    It could be 1 of the most worst days of your life and Jim Cornette wrestling stories could make your day a little better

  • @toma.4808
    @toma.4808 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    What you failed to realize was the shock master did indeed shock the world. what a trip😂 Fred is a nice guy

  • @RedfishCarolina
    @RedfishCarolina 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I saw this live on TV and STILL cannot get enough just listening to Jim talk about it

  • @00ga-booga
    @00ga-booga 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    It's a shame, because I could totally see the Shockmaster going over and holding the belt for a decade.

  • @60BloodyChamp60
    @60BloodyChamp60 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    The Black Scorpion was a good idea, and it worked at first. People wanted to see who it was, and the minion subplot was an acceptable way to give Sting a bunch of clean wins. Then for some reason he started doing magic tricks and junk. Had they left that out and just found an acceptable identity at the end it would have been great.

    • @tafua_a
      @tafua_a 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The main reason why it didn't work is that all the proposed ideas didn't pan out, and the only one left was Flair, the man they didn't want to main event in the first place.

  • @RedfishCarolina
    @RedfishCarolina 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Here's the really sad part. As bad as this whole gimmick was, as poorly thought out, as poorly executed, it's STILL not as stupid as the giant pubic hair muscle suit that Vince made poor Jorge Gonzales wear.

  • @johnnys3487
    @johnnys3487 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I don't think they made holes in the shock master helmet so the guy couldn't even see how cheap was WCW

    • @tafua_a
      @tafua_a 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      They did make holes, but you still can't see shit through them, they're too small and too far apart

  • @pastorofmuppets22
    @pastorofmuppets22 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Is the falling down really what killed that gimmick? I think it was doomed way before that

    • @MLBlue30
      @MLBlue30 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He wanted to shock fans on how awful his gimmick was.

  • @clhound
    @clhound 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    "Who is this mutha fuckah?" - Booker T

  • @gunnarjordan6980
    @gunnarjordan6980 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Pretty cool that Corny got on Austin’s podcast! Would love to sit and chat with Stone Cold!

  • @dr.roberts4508
    @dr.roberts4508 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    That's Right The T.H. Barton Coliseum, Little Rock, Ark

  • @RoyLeach-zi5qf
    @RoyLeach-zi5qf 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Dusty Rhodes says in one interview that the 2x4 was put there on purpose. Somehow,somewhere, a carpenter was insulted on that set and decided to rib T.Shockmaster Sr.

    • @TheJohnnyDoggs
      @TheJohnnyDoggs 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If I'm correct it was Jim herds idea.

    • @creoleDJ
      @creoleDJ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TheJohnnyDoggsIt was Dusty Rhodes’ idea. I think Heard was gone at that time. Flair had left WCW when Heard was president because they butted heads and came back when Dusty returned & had the booking duties.

    • @kshinokevin
      @kshinokevin 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      did "Cowboy" Bill Watts come in after (Jim) Herd left WCW ? I wonder if (Eric) Bischoff worked in WCW during Kip Allen Frey's reign (WCW's VP).

    • @creoleDJ
      @creoleDJ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kshinokevin Watts did come in at that time, but was basically forced to leave there after (see “Bill Watts Pro Wrestling Torch interview” for more on that); I think Frye was running the show until Bischoff was moved up to that spot.

  • @stevewarren4813
    @stevewarren4813 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Poor Uncle Fred.

  • @mikerryan85
    @mikerryan85 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Ole chuckling and sounding like Dr. Claw from Inspector Gadget. Sid was selling it good though looking scared shitless trying not to break 😂

  • @Humongous420
    @Humongous420 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Sid always kills me in that scene 😂 Rest In Pride

    • @kshinokevin
      @kshinokevin 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Rip to "Softball/Psycho" Sid Vicious/Justice, Lord Humongous, the Master, the (Millenium) Man, the Ruler of the Lord !

  • @arthurmorgan7086
    @arthurmorgan7086 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Just imagining jim saying Arse 😂

  • @FortunateJuice
    @FortunateJuice 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I had never heard the Robert Gibson story or the Dundee on the motorcycle story.

  • @killjoydklown
    @killjoydklown 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Rip Doug Furnas

  • @mrnaughtycat
    @mrnaughtycat 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The worst thing is booker or stevie saying who is this mofo

  • @DementedDistraction
    @DementedDistraction 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That Dundee wipeout must've been hilarious to see in real time.

  • @jeremyferrell4567
    @jeremyferrell4567 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Anything with Cornette is gold

  • @mox19380
    @mox19380 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what i never understood was, IF the skit had worked the way they wanted was Shockmaster going to wear the helmet during matches? I mean what was the plan. If I had a time machine I'd go back and warn fred about the board so we could see the alternate timeline where the gimmick lived beyond that fateful flair for the gold

  • @matthewgabbard6415
    @matthewgabbard6415 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dutch could be a carny to this day. I swear I think I saw him running the tilt a whirl in Ky back in the early 90s.

  • @Revampyremetal
    @Revampyremetal 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There’s no way he could have wrestled in that helmet

  • @ericgilbert56
    @ericgilbert56 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Oh damn... I'm gonna watch it again.🤣

  • @MCTooTall
    @MCTooTall 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Doug Furnas and John Tenter should form a tag team. They could call them the natural disasters.

  • @ChaseSchleich
    @ChaseSchleich 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I miss Steve's podcast.

  • @mrnaughtycat
    @mrnaughtycat 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    To be fair apparently they set him up

  • @ryanmiller7980
    @ryanmiller7980 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Rip sid 😢

  • @Eric1990us
    @Eric1990us 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Well. You have this big lumbering guy who didn't really fit the gimmick in the first place. Maybe with a slightly smaller and less husky wrestler it might have worked. Maybe? Obviously Fred Ottman was not the right guy to pull it off!!

    • @Eric1990us
      @Eric1990us 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      But he just came to WCW at the time and they were desperate for a gimmick for him. But an absolute failure on every level!!

  • @michaelforde6637
    @michaelforde6637 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Comic genius

  • @kinyoubi71
    @kinyoubi71 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Listen to Dusty Rhodes tell this story !

  • @brokenfunnibones
    @brokenfunnibones 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Need more stone cold + cornette stuff

  • @freedomisntfree2089
    @freedomisntfree2089 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    WCW 1990--1995 was the horrible lmao

  • @mikeowens2329
    @mikeowens2329 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    every wrestler on the planet would have fallen on their ass. gimmik the wall your on live tv. no wonder WCW lost.

  • @robertcornelius3514
    @robertcornelius3514 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I would love Jim except he loves Kamala.

    • @deanromanado5850
      @deanromanado5850 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good for him. He loves the next president and hates the rapist who is running against her

    • @TurnbuckleTimes
      @TurnbuckleTimes  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      Who doesn't love the Ugandan Giant?! 🇺🇬🌙✨😛

    • @MisterBourgolini
      @MisterBourgolini 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      RIP Big Jim Harris.

    • @robertcornelius3514
      @robertcornelius3514 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@TurnbuckleTimes Bahahahahahaha. Good one

    • @AnthonyAnalog
      @AnthonyAnalog 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      You like the guy flying around in Epstein's jet instead? Weird flex.