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  • @ignatzy
    @ignatzy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5757

    The way Walter’s mother was treated by the police is absolutely abhorrent. It’s even worse on top of all the suffering she must’ve already been going through.

    • @Philocratlife
      @Philocratlife 3 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      The is a movie about this case staring Angelina jolie , named changeling

    • @gemmaalia
      @gemmaalia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      I completely agree the police treated her terribly.

    • @mortuarycookiezshane4192
      @mortuarycookiezshane4192 3 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      I was incredibly disgusted about how she was treated. A mental facility?! Seriously?!

    • @Andreamom001
      @Andreamom001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      @@mortuarycookiezshane4192 Yes, apparently the LAPD at the time committed any "troublesome" women there...wives the officers no longer wanted, etc.

    • @mortuarycookiezshane4192
      @mortuarycookiezshane4192 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@Andreamom001 idky this always shocks me. Like I know historically it happened but hearing about it in story accounts it always shocks me all over again.

  • @stellak6433
    @stellak6433 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4219

    The fact SHE had to PAY to transport him is ridiculous.

    • @amazingly_bookish
      @amazingly_bookish 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Ikr!! I thought that!

    • @wrongorange
      @wrongorange 3 ปีที่แล้ว +98

      America, land of the free

    • @Ash-np4to
      @Ash-np4to 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      @@wrongorange at a high cost!

    • @raeanncountryman3506
      @raeanncountryman3506 3 ปีที่แล้ว +88

      And to think it wasn’t even her son

    • @softpurplebat
      @softpurplebat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Absolutely unbelievable.

  • @simi_dhir
    @simi_dhir 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1019

    Job description: help people
    What they do: ✨ gaslight a mother ✨

    • @iwishiwasanirishwitch9380
      @iwishiwasanirishwitch9380 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      they are just girlbossing, gatekeeping, and gaslighting

    • @gunsugoncu
      @gunsugoncu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@iwishiwasanirishwitch9380 or manipulate, mansplain, malewifeing

    • @A_Ducky
      @A_Ducky 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ☝️ also the same for vast majority of doctors!
      All these people who are supposed to care and protect others.. doing exactly the opposite. 🗽🇺🇲

    • @AmandaVieiraMamaesouCult
      @AmandaVieiraMamaesouCult 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gunsugoncu what is malewifing?

  • @ShayLikeButter
    @ShayLikeButter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2677

    "Try him out for a couple of weeks."
    That has to be the strangest thing to tell a mother who says *"That's NOT my son." Then locking her up in a psych ward....... ... What they did to that mother is disgusting.

    • @GG-xcx9z
      @GG-xcx9z 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      You’ve got a lovely smile btw :)

    • @nomimoseti5504
      @nomimoseti5504 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

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      @nomimoseti5504 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

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    • @nomimoseti5504
      @nomimoseti5504 2 ปีที่แล้ว

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    • @littleshopofeldritchhorror6224
      @littleshopofeldritchhorror6224 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I kinda get it from a “ he’s been through a lot, so might not be behaving the same and will look different” but when she then comes back with the actual evidence it’s not her son, it’s ridiculous how they then continued to treat her even before locking her up and medicating her

  • @heyysimone
    @heyysimone 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4299

    "Ah yes, this kid we dropped off in the middle of nowhere found his way back. And the dog recognised him. Its your son."
    "His dental records dont match."
    "Youre just trying to make us look bad!!"

    • @saarakhan2940
      @saarakhan2940 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      I swear sometimes police are useless 😒😑

    • @seanfraid2675
      @seanfraid2675 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      "Case Solved!!!"

    • @softpurplebat
      @softpurplebat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Absolutely unbelievable.
      Seriously, how can ANYONE be so dumb and lazy.

    • @nodrvgs
      @nodrvgs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      the police in this case were just ridiculous

    • @thefinalgirl6907
      @thefinalgirl6907 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      The cops were just gaslighting, gatekeeping, and girlbossing

  • @CherokeeRoses
    @CherokeeRoses 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3975

    The fact they trust a dog's judgement over an actual mother looking for her son, I-- 💀

    • @JesusChrist-xf4xk
      @JesusChrist-xf4xk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Lmfao😂

    • @breeeeeeee_
      @breeeeeeee_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@JK-dm7qh exactly

    • @kayakaziloqo7297
      @kayakaziloqo7297 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Useless police, i would look for a lawyer who is greedy for money and make sure we sue the heck out of these useless idiots....

    • @lukaseldenrust2637
      @lukaseldenrust2637 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@kayakaziloqo7297 thing is, a greedy lawyer will make you pay up more than the winnings would be

    • @theajanshen
      @theajanshen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fr

  • @ASaltyGhost
    @ASaltyGhost 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5064

    Honestly, Arthur is a fascinating kid. Taking up the role of someone else's child to escape his own life, just adopting this entirely new persona at 12 years old. I'm curious how his life ended up going.

    • @froginink27
      @froginink27 3 ปีที่แล้ว +112

      Research time >:D.

    • @brih9613
      @brih9613 3 ปีที่แล้ว +352

      i think he grew up normally after that and had a wife and daughter and then died in 1954

    • @bespectacledheroine7292
      @bespectacledheroine7292 3 ปีที่แล้ว +217

      I think most kids who think they're badly off (Whether that's true or not) have ideas like this and may even follow through on them if only they could, so this was simply a case of perfect timing. Arthur was told he looked like this missing child, he had nothing better to be doing, boom, done.

    • @theGoldjey
      @theGoldjey 3 ปีที่แล้ว +161

      I think it's just survival instinct there is no way he would have made it long out there alone

    • @manasvijain8304
      @manasvijain8304 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @Row S yes you’re right

  • @bluegreenglue6565
    @bluegreenglue6565 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6158

    Woman says, "This is not my son." Police: "Just try him out for a few weeks." : o

  • @sarahedwards2819
    @sarahedwards2819 3 ปีที่แล้ว +970

    As a 15 year old myself…i couldn’t imagine how hard that was for Stanford…being away from your parents and going away w/ someone you trusted, to be tortured. seriously disgusting and so sad :(

    • @CashelOConnolly
      @CashelOConnolly 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Don’t let this story scare you! Murder is incredibly rare! Also most murders aren’t committed by strangers but within the family. True Crime channels like to exaggerate stranger danger because it makes the cases more sensational. Be sensible but live your life without fear. In general people are kind and decent
      Peace and happiness from Dublin Ireland 🇮🇪

    • @A_Ducky
      @A_Ducky 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Just turned 45 yesterday.
      Wish I could go back & tell my 15yo self to not sweat the small things, and to enjoy life more. By 25 it was already too late...

    • @missamanda2703
      @missamanda2703 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sweetheart you should see what some of these foster children I get look like most are age appreciate to my son. Yet these teenage boys are a foot shorter. I am ably 5"3 153 these children are all my sizeand bigger but to see close to a grown young adult to flinch at a caretaker/ mother. These children are so sadly scared. That's why we don't age out. If you turn 18 and want to go to college and work pt. We are a forever home. Some children have extended family to turn to. Most don't so we don't care if the $$$$ stops. Your in school your welcome to stay.

    • @CashelOConnolly
      @CashelOConnolly ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @sewer~rat 44 thousand people in the USA last year died in car crashes compared to 22 thousand people who were murdered. So you’re over twice as likely to die in a car crash than you are of being murdered! Do you avoid getting into cars? Of course not!
      statistics -Federal Bureau of Investigation

    • @NetWebUser
      @NetWebUser 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      What worse is he knew he was strange and begged his parents and sister to not send him away with him poor Stanford.

  • @blameitondanny
    @blameitondanny 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2218

    The boy whose missing for 5 months and suspected to be abducted and the police were like "Let's drop this boy on the edge of the town and let him walk home on his own".

    • @courtneymarrs2392
      @courtneymarrs2392 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Good point

    • @lajoymckeithen6549
      @lajoymckeithen6549 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Lamo i think that those police were a little💀🤪🤒💢💢💢💢💢

    • @basiliskbones5102
      @basiliskbones5102 3 ปีที่แล้ว +80

      I was literally like, 🤦 who the fuck thought it was a bright idea to put the recently missing boy, back into a position where he could go missing again?

    • @user-me8fm5yf4n
      @user-me8fm5yf4n 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lajoymckeithen6549 tf

    • @lajoymckeithen6549
      @lajoymckeithen6549 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@user-me8fm5yf4n what are u stupid to have the audacity to call me out
      Wtf is ur problemo

  • @tikitorchgamin1842
    @tikitorchgamin1842 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2023

    I feel bad for his nephew. He literally went through so much hell... 😔

  • @snow.flower
    @snow.flower 3 ปีที่แล้ว +862

    Sanford’s abuse is just. Ugh. I have no words. What hell he endured

    • @Ema-bh7gg
      @Ema-bh7gg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Poor boy :(

  • @kimberlysheannewong4021
    @kimberlysheannewong4021 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2045

    I honestly can't believe the Police are the ones saying "No this is your child" to the mother when she knows he really wasn't and has proof of it. Like wtf

    • @AxxLAfriku
      @AxxLAfriku 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      IT is weird indeed. Everywhere I comment, people tell me how much they love me and my content. Sometimes IT is annoying. But right now, IT would be okay. So say something nice about my content, dear kw

    • @Andreamom001
      @Andreamom001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      The police wanted the case over so they wouldn't look bad. They didn't really care if it was her kid or not...the kid said he was hers, so, yay, case closed, case solved, good job police! That particular police force was very corrupt at that time.

    • @sierralowery8642
      @sierralowery8642 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      LA police, especially at this time, were very corrupt. A missing child of known criminal isn’t worth their time and the media attention didn’t make them happy to keep it going. They wanted it ‘solved’ more than anything, no matter what the mother says.

    • @rachaelchai8655
      @rachaelchai8655 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Hey Mr Police Chief, were you the one who birthed Walter? Huh? No? Well then listen to his mother man

    • @M1985-
      @M1985- 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yeah...it’s not like she gave B I R T H to him.

  • @BEngelbrecht97
    @BEngelbrecht97 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2255

    Mother : This is not my child.
    Police : We don't want to continue doing our job, so we have decided that it is your child. K bye

    • @babamoeensam7.1.14
      @babamoeensam7.1.14 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      But they were fair though, they asked her to try him for few days & see, so it was really a fair deal, right?

    • @ds0786
      @ds0786 3 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      @@babamoeensam7.1.14 YEAH but they have a no return policy.

    • @candiedpandie
      @candiedpandie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      @@babamoeensam7.1.14 I don't think it's very fair to tell a mother who's son is missing to "try out" a child who she knows isn't hers while her actual child is still somewhere out there while they sit around and do nothing. That's literally making a mockery of the situation.. how wouldn't she recognize her own child? The movie Changeling depicts it well.. there were moments she tried to force herself to believe it really was Walter because of the pain of not having him around and the desire to. It's really messed up to make her have to go through that.

    • @babamoeensam7.1.14
      @babamoeensam7.1.14 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@candiedpandie I really really hope you do realize that i was simply being sarcastic because how ridiculous & stupid these cops were,
      Your very long reply tells me otherwise so i thought to explain more.

    • @candiedpandie
      @candiedpandie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@babamoeensam7.1.14 sorry, I didn't realize actually since it's hard to tell tone over text sometimes and I thought you were deadpan serious. I'm glad I was wrong!

  • @hollygrebely5624
    @hollygrebely5624 3 ปีที่แล้ว +231

    3:08 - abduction of walter collins
    16:05 - abduction of the winslow brothers
    18:52 - police arrive at the chicken farm
    20:14 - sanford clarks interview with police
    24:00 - gordon northcotts childhood
    29:46 - gordon northcotts appearance/how he carried himself
    32:47 - friendship with claud/sexual assault of philip/gordons obsession with young boys
    36:22 - the chicken farm
    38:17 - abuse of sanford clark
    43:10 - homeless boys brought to the farm
    44:42 - the letters gordon forced sanford to write
    45:25 - sanford attempts to escape
    48:44 - attempted kidnapping of junior
    51:56 - severed head in the bucket

    • @guler00
      @guler00 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Thanks!:)

    • @Baldjotarokujo
      @Baldjotarokujo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I didn't know this was needed but thank you 🙏🙏✨

    • @Carbonbblack
      @Carbonbblack 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Nothing could have prepared me for the last time mark 😭

    • @m3rlinda.i0
      @m3rlinda.i0 ปีที่แล้ว

      thanksss!!!!!

    • @we_barebears
      @we_barebears ปีที่แล้ว +1

      thank you omgg im writing an essay on him lol🤣

  • @katiesnow396
    @katiesnow396 3 ปีที่แล้ว +374

    I cannot imagine being the mother in this situation... how horrifying and terribly sad to be put through all of this while dealing with the loss of her son.

  • @ameliemarhin1611
    @ameliemarhin1611 3 ปีที่แล้ว +999

    imagine how walter's mum must've felt being accused for lying about something like that, absolutely traumatising

    • @veronicabendig7123
      @veronicabendig7123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      And sent to a psychiatric hospital! I really can imagine her thinking that she was maybe wrong and she just rejected her son

    • @smileyattitude6807
      @smileyattitude6807 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Soo scarry

  • @mace7422
    @mace7422 3 ปีที่แล้ว +269

    It’s absolutely horrendous how the police treat Walter’s mother. The fact they asked her to spend a few weeks with Arthur just to see if it was her son, and when she told them she didn’t think it was after 3 weeks they locked her in a psychiatric hospital?!

  • @deannadavison1933
    @deannadavison1933 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2243

    This was made into a movie. It’s called changling, Angelina jolie plays the mother. It’s a really depressing story

    • @kaseybowen5089
      @kaseybowen5089 3 ปีที่แล้ว +97

      Thank you for this!! I remember a part of the movie where the mom is taking "her" kid a shower and realizing it isn't him but I could not remember the name of it

    • @deannadavison1933
      @deannadavison1933 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@kaseybowen5089 oh no problem! I think it just stuck with me because of how sad the story is.

    • @DeadPretty138
      @DeadPretty138 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      i thought that was a horror movie?

    • @clarejohnstone7479
      @clarejohnstone7479 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      @@DeadPretty138 well the movie is based off this story...

    • @DeadPretty138
      @DeadPretty138 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@clarejohnstone7479 i had absolutely no idea but its been ages since i saw the movie and for some reason i thought it had these weird creatures in pretending to be the kids. Im really gonna have to rewatch it!

  • @saraisversion
    @saraisversion 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3831

    i love how Eleanor doesn’t put scary music or pictures that are graphic

    • @christeningg8084
      @christeningg8084 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      ur only 1 min into the vid hahah

    • @101sanford
      @101sanford 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@christeningg8084 im a big beast

    • @slickmadisyn
      @slickmadisyn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +232

      right! she’s very respectful and doesn’t try to turn it into anything spooky or crazy.

    • @swastikqjana7128
      @swastikqjana7128 3 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      Yes because these cases are enough to steal your sleep 😭😱

    • @SS-mk2yp
      @SS-mk2yp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +200

      And she doesn’t put on an overly dramatic voice in her videos, she just talks like she’s a friend telling us a story. Those dramatic voices make me click out of videos real quick.

  • @Vixterlk
    @Vixterlk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +274

    They believed the family dog over the boy's literal mother. I can't even! 💀

  • @georginaisaacs1463
    @georginaisaacs1463 3 ปีที่แล้ว +354

    [Trigger warning]
    Thank you so much Eleanor for speaking about child sexual abuse so sensitivley and in such a dignified way. The way you described the way children don't often realise what's happening at the time was so well-worded and hopefully will help explain to people who don't understand that sort of thing, so thank you xxx

    • @804smiles
      @804smiles 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      She really did a great job in djs vjd

    • @astraythestars
      @astraythestars 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      thank you for putting a tw! many people don't really do that so I and many others appreciate it :>

    • @xxsp00kyxx23
      @xxsp00kyxx23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      She does such a good job with that. I was sexually abused by my father from 2-15. It wasn't until I was 14 that i fully realized what was happening.

    • @georginaisaacs1463
      @georginaisaacs1463 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@xxsp00kyxx23 I’m so sorry that happened to you, I had an experience where I didn’t realise until a while in either. I hope you’re doing okay :)

  • @athena2158
    @athena2158 3 ปีที่แล้ว +381

    poor kid, no one should ever have to experience hell like that he was literally an innocent child

  • @marissastone5445
    @marissastone5445 3 ปีที่แล้ว +161

    This whole case makes me physically ill … how could neighbors ever ever know something like that was going on and not say a damn thing! Imagine if that was your child. This is horrendous, so sad for the poor boy Sanford. I have so much empathy and sadness for this case. Also so insane how unhelpful the cops were for these cases ! Like they really put the mother in an insane asylum for knowing that wasn’t her son. And I honestly feel horrible for that boy pretending to be the son he just wanted a nice home with nice parents. 😭 my heart is just breaking during this whole case !

  • @hambuguhyar
    @hambuguhyar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +361

    christ almighty... listening to what Stanford went through has made me physically ill as it reminded me of something similar to what I went through when I was 13 but never to that extent. He went through that for so long? Knowing he's in the middle of nowhere, no help, no one to hear his cries and screams. I hope he made it out alive and received love, support, and therapy... it's the least he can receive after going through that.

    • @rosiebottom3870
      @rosiebottom3870 3 ปีที่แล้ว +83

      Stanford went onto marry. They adopted two boys. He was a lovely husband and father. His son collaborated with an author to write Sanford's story after he died. It's called "Nothing is strange with you". Shocking and disturbing book.

    • @Daaaanielle
      @Daaaanielle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@rosiebottom3870 this makes me happy. Good for him for at least making a life for himself and not get lost in the trauma. Even though I am sure he had a ton of that to deal with.

    • @rosiebottom3870
      @rosiebottom3870 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      @@Daaaanielle I was wrong about the book title: it was called Road Out Of Hell.

    • @3martiniplaydate
      @3martiniplaydate 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Please never minimize what you went through. Even a fraction of that kind of abuse is wrong and please be a survivor and live your life well and be happy that you are a survivor. Good on you!!!

    • @runsfromelk509
      @runsfromelk509 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      Although Stanford did go on to adulthood, he was terrified of passing down genetically the horribly wicked behaviour his relatives possessed.
      That is why he adopted two children.

  • @kbs3491
    @kbs3491 3 ปีที่แล้ว +430

    My heart breaks for the poor little boy and the abuse he suffered . Can’t believe the neighbours didn’t do a thing

  • @ieee3858
    @ieee3858 3 ปีที่แล้ว +482

    I was thinking DNA and the police were like "how about dog testing?"

    • @hollie8065
      @hollie8065 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      dna testing wasn’t a thing in the 1920s as it wasn’t discovered until the 1950s

    • @ieee3858
      @ieee3858 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@hollie8065 that makes alot more sence thanks!

    • @killlerkai18
      @killlerkai18 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@ieee3858 and DNA testing was being used for the first time in the late '80s

    • @eri020
      @eri020 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      even if DNA testing were a thing back then they might’ve still said she was crazy lolol

    • @YouAreRightlAmWrong
      @YouAreRightlAmWrong 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ieee3858 cool name

  • @reverendsquirrel
    @reverendsquirrel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +715

    The LAPD being sketch, blaming the victim, and engaging in unconstitutional practices? Well, that's unprecedented.

    • @heather_doestruecrime
      @heather_doestruecrime 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Yeah I literally would never feel safe living in LA. Their police are a joke

    • @reverendsquirrel
      @reverendsquirrel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@heather_doestruecrime "Joke" is pretty generous. They are monsters.

    • @TaLisaLovesDaveDay98
      @TaLisaLovesDaveDay98 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@heather_doestruecrime sadly not just LA

    • @origamipein18
      @origamipein18 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Eh. 🤷🏿‍♀️ Wouldn't be the first time. 😐

  • @AutumnalSunests
    @AutumnalSunests 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1377

    The film `The Changeling` is about this story, stars Angelina Jolie and directed by Clint Eastwood. A harrowing story beautifully told.

    • @Gusp5
      @Gusp5 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      That's what I thought it sounded familiar!!

    • @Katmorrow90
      @Katmorrow90 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Yes! Love that movie, so interesting but terrible.

    • @tellmeofyourhomeworldusul6060
      @tellmeofyourhomeworldusul6060 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      That movie has so many parts to it, it’s almost like at the end of the movie that you forget where you started. It’s really good. I can’t believe it’s based on true events. Wow. Terrifying

    • @AutumnalSunests
      @AutumnalSunests 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      @@tellmeofyourhomeworldusul6060 Yes so shocking that it was a true story. I always remember the last scene when she walks away and the voice over says that she never stopped looking for her son, utterly heart breaking.

    • @jessicafulton7089
      @jessicafulton7089 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      This film made me cry ❤️

  • @spasticskater77
    @spasticskater77 3 ปีที่แล้ว +101

    When you said the police were like “we’re literally right” I almost spit out my coffee, I was laughing so hard.

  • @rubyliang3273
    @rubyliang3273 3 ปีที่แล้ว +156

    This makes me so angry that the police were accusing the mother about lying. Like it’s her son, how would she not know when something was wrong and that was not her son?

  • @amandal6559
    @amandal6559 3 ปีที่แล้ว +196

    The fact that the neighbors knew infuriated me! They could have saved so many peoples lives and gotten these boys help. If you know people are being abused, it becomes your business! You need to try to get them help, and these neighbors are terrible for not doing anything. I just know this case would be so much different if they spoke to police when they first noticed abuse and the underage boys being taken to the farm.

    • @salvolondon
      @salvolondon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Seems to happen pretty commonly in America even nowadays ( this thing if neighbors thinking that it’s none of their bauinesss what others people do ) , in other counties where people habe much stronger relationships with the neighborhood it would be impossible to hide stuff like that

    • @amandal6559
      @amandal6559 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@salvolondon yeah I agree with that. It’s so sad how people don’t care about others especially when they know something is going on.

    • @bonniestull2222
      @bonniestull2222 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The 20s was a different world

    • @amandal6559
      @amandal6559 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@bonniestull2222 yeah, but sadly many people still treat others like this

    • @emeryltekutsu4357
      @emeryltekutsu4357 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Sometimes it is quite difficult because you don't know the whole story of what's going on and, unfortunately, good systems aren't in place to help.
      There's a grown boy here, for example, who probably has the mentality of a four year old or something. He's left out to walk around by himself all the time. His family is a complete mess. It's definitely not a good situation for him, but what do you do? If you call CPS or something, the services there often have notoriously bad results. Mental health care is crap. Our police are fairly lazy.
      The reality is that it's highly unlikely he'd end up in a better situation and he might end up in a worse situation. Which leaves people stuck sometimes.
      Now, if I KNEW someone next door was raping kids or something, I'd 100% call the police on them. But if you hear yelling next door, which happens all the time, most people probably don't bother because they aren't sure what's happening, and people yell and scream all the time.
      It's sad that he tried so hard to get out of going. I can't imagine sending my kid off like that and... just not seeing him again? I'd be uncomfortable with my kid out of my sight for a day, much less sending him away with no way to get help. Thankfully his sister seemed to give a damn.

  • @evepark5133
    @evepark5133 3 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    Angelina Jolie starred in a really great movie about this called The Changeling. She did such an amazing job, and it’s such a great but also very sad movie, one of my favourites! It really encompasses this whole case from Walter’s mother’s perspective.

    • @TaMcsweeney
      @TaMcsweeney 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i knew it was sounding familiar thankyou so much and yes the movie tells the story quite well

    • @aprilrodriguez410
      @aprilrodriguez410 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Just "Changeling". "The Changeling" will bring up a total different movie I found out.

    • @raigenhuss7030
      @raigenhuss7030 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was looking for this comment! I’ve always loved that movie and I never feel like anyone has ever seen it. I forgot it was based on a true story

    • @CureSmileful
      @CureSmileful ปีที่แล้ว

      haha yeah as soon as I heard that multiple children were abducted,, then she got sent to mental asylum and then boys were abused on a farm I started to look through comments to find one like this

    • @cmytu2349
      @cmytu2349 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I saw this movie, too. It's very good and I believe it was directed by Clint Eastwood.

  • @sugarsoda11
    @sugarsoda11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3325

    Can we admit how smart Walter’s mom was than the actual police who do this for a living-

    • @fatimahalkhatam7432
      @fatimahalkhatam7432 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      True

    • @treearoha
      @treearoha 3 ปีที่แล้ว +168

      I can't believe they didn't do the dental records first. The police who handled his are a joke.

    • @sugarsoda11
      @sugarsoda11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@treearoha ikr

    • @queermilkshake9990
      @queermilkshake9990 3 ปีที่แล้ว +73

      @Dodge Morningstar but they are... They're supposed to lead investigations and permiss detectives to help with the case. It was entirely on them. They SHOULD have gathered all evidence to support all claims. It's their job

    • @kadeelacayo4806
      @kadeelacayo4806 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      I mean I wouldn’t say she was “smart” she just knew it wasn’t her kid lol that’s not hard. The police knew he wasn’t also they just tried to play it off. Smarts had nothing to do with it

  • @WebkinzCheekyFawn
    @WebkinzCheekyFawn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +280

    Just a small note - Marion Parker's killer was identified 5 days later as William Edward Hickman! ♥️

  • @olivia-nx8xf
    @olivia-nx8xf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3045

    the kid who pretended to be walter was actually pure genius for that lmao he got himself off the street

    • @pm1647
      @pm1647 3 ปีที่แล้ว +475

      But the emotional torment the real mother went through am sorry but something was seriously off with him he saw Walter's real mom in agony being gaslighted his not a genius but a criminal.

    • @cheeriototoro8063
      @cheeriototoro8063 3 ปีที่แล้ว +200

      @aurora boreale Narcissist? bro he was full ass child and saw an opportunity

    • @supernova11711
      @supernova11711 3 ปีที่แล้ว +76

      @@cheeriototoro8063 Actually, NPD is developed between the ages of 4-6 so people do have the disorder by 10. I’ve known one.
      I’m not saying this child was, I don’t know, but simply that it is possible.

    • @olivia-nx8xf
      @olivia-nx8xf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @aurora boreale i agree but genius nevertheless

    • @olivia-nx8xf
      @olivia-nx8xf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +103

      @@pm1647 i’m not saying it’s right. it’s evil genius. it’s wrong but he was very clever

  • @GenXfrom75
    @GenXfrom75 3 ปีที่แล้ว +848

    Gordon looks straight up insane in that photo. 😳 I do feel bad about his upbringing but once you're an adult, you don't get to use your childhood trauma to cause trauma to others.

    • @GenXfrom75
      @GenXfrom75 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @saryul ; I didn't suggest it was. In fact, I went out of my way to say that.

    • @GenXfrom75
      @GenXfrom75 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @saryul ; Ohhh! Gotcha! It's hard to read intent in these comments at time. My apologies.

    • @im19ice3
      @im19ice3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      i'm usually the type to be against making assumptions based on a persons appearance but in this case. cant be helped :/ he does look casually deranged

    • @its_destruggle2226
      @its_destruggle2226 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      In the words of the morbid podcast, “feel bad for the kid, not the adult”

    • @GenXfrom75
      @GenXfrom75 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@its_destruggle2226 Precisely. Thank you.

  • @applejuice6616
    @applejuice6616 3 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    THIS CASE WAS MADE IN TO A MOVIE CALLED ‘CHANGELING’ !! its so good and even sadder, everyone should watch it, also it stars angelina jolie !!! i was wondering why the story felt so familiar 😭😭

    • @BrittMFH
      @BrittMFH 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes yes yes, this movie has been noted numerous times in the comments.

    • @yourfavouritescepticx8969
      @yourfavouritescepticx8969 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      SAME ! I was srolling through the comments to find a reference to this movie because I also thought it sounded very familiar

  • @alexandriaraewatson
    @alexandriaraewatson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3210

    dog likes boy, boy walks home: “We’re right, we’re literally right.”

    • @thecaptainsnark
      @thecaptainsnark 3 ปีที่แล้ว +124

      honestly this is exactly how i imagine cops sound.

    • @emh174
      @emh174 3 ปีที่แล้ว +80

      My dog LOVES everyone, even if you just met him. I guess I have many lost children?

    • @addyhernandez6879
      @addyhernandez6879 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      The fact that the mom did more then the cops ever did shows a lot

    • @eri020
      @eri020 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@addyhernandez6879 right lmao it shows how useless the police can be in such serious situations

    • @luka_lyn8159
      @luka_lyn8159 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@emh174 EXACTLY

  • @Gooner333333333
    @Gooner333333333 3 ปีที่แล้ว +490

    It's cute the way she tries to describe him without trying to offend

  • @sarahcollins2539
    @sarahcollins2539 3 ปีที่แล้ว +558

    Me: *having a really awful day where I'm depressed, stressed, not well dressed, just generally overwhelmed*
    Eleanor: SUH TODAYS VIDEUH
    Me: :)

    • @louie1338
      @louie1338 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I don’t know why this made me laugh, but this is exactly how I feel!!😂🥰

    • @eaglefiregaminghamza
      @eaglefiregaminghamza 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Lol

    • @elsamm1
      @elsamm1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I hope you’re feeling better 😀

    • @sarahcollins2539
      @sarahcollins2539 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@elsamm1 I am, thanks :)

    • @madihall68
      @madihall68 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I’m suffering through some really dark times right now, but just hearing Eleanor talk even watching the same video over and over.. it makes me feel better. I relate

  • @hannah0wn284
    @hannah0wn284 3 ปีที่แล้ว +346

    fun fact Arthur actually revealed that he wanted to go to california to meet his favourite hollywood actor, and that’s also part of the reason why he pretended to be Walter

    • @adamari4711
      @adamari4711 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Saw that in buzzfeed unsolved huh 😂

    • @hannah0wn284
      @hannah0wn284 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@adamari4711 yup ;)

    • @killlerkai18
      @killlerkai18 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@hannah0wn284 do you have the BuzzFeed link?

    • @Kiwi.katra098
      @Kiwi.katra098 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@killlerkai18 m.th-cam.com/video/ZMu7_Xpp1SM/w-d-xo.html

    • @killlerkai18
      @killlerkai18 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Kiwi.katra098 thanks

  • @pruthajoshi5552
    @pruthajoshi5552 3 ปีที่แล้ว +629

    So first, Sanford's mother send him to the farm against his will And then never visited her son in 2.5 years? It just angers me how ignorant parents can be! 😑

    • @jamie-leighgibson2338
      @jamie-leighgibson2338 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      That confused me as well

    • @pruthajoshi5552
      @pruthajoshi5552 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@jamie-leighgibson2338 I know right!

    • @eri020
      @eri020 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      parents used to be a lot more trusting back in the day. it’s like how people used to leave their front doors unlocked- they never expected truly awful things to happen until they did. thankfully most people know how best to keep their families safe now though

    • @pruthajoshi5552
      @pruthajoshi5552 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@eri020 that's true. But still for 2.5 years? It's too much

    • @ameliaj8791
      @ameliaj8791 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      It was the 1920s, and the boy was in different country entirely. He even updated her regularly with letters! And here’s the kicker, he was in the care of her brother, his uncle. I’m sure she didn’t worry too much about him, because(on the surface) she had no reason to. Maybe if times were different she might’ve been more concerned but there are parents who are fooled even in modern times when their children are kept in bad conditions.

  • @victoriaivy5953
    @victoriaivy5953 3 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    Please link this to part two, the video names aren’t similar so it’s hard to track your two parters to work out what is linked. I think this is why a lot of people seem to get anoyed at two parters.

    • @bigtesticals1232
      @bigtesticals1232 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      She does usually link them on the little eye in the corner if you wanna check it out there.

  • @karenschelling82
    @karenschelling82 3 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    I live in the same city that this occurred. I drive by this house everyday...yes it is still standing to this day. My kids are fascinated by it. The name of the city has been changed several times so that we are not associated with the murders. Most recently our city was re named Jurupa Valley. I still can’t believe anyone would want to live in that house. Super creepy!!! Can’t wait for part 2.

    • @BrittMFH
      @BrittMFH 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wow, that is interesting, especially that the house is still there. TFS.

  • @katelynannis858
    @katelynannis858 3 ปีที่แล้ว +246

    Angelina Jolie played the mother in Changeling, which is the films that was inspired by this tragedy.

    • @sabrinagilkie8761
      @sabrinagilkie8761 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Thank you for this comment, I actually came here to ask if that movie was based on this story.

    • @biancastott1403
      @biancastott1403 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @Katelyn Annis I ended up watching the movie because of your comment, it was really good!

    • @wickedwhisper4568
      @wickedwhisper4568 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I knew there was a movie based on this! It's really good too

    • @chelstar91
      @chelstar91 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      8 mins into the video I’m like this sounds exactly like Changeling...

    • @carolinaformigao5155
      @carolinaformigao5155 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Such a great film about this unfortunate tragedy...

  • @lucyscott._.2003
    @lucyscott._.2003 3 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    I feel so bad for Sanford omg I hope he had a good life after everything he had to go through all alone😕

    • @_______unknown_______
      @_______unknown_______ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      He got married and adopted 2 kids BUT due to the abuse sanford couldn't walk without a limp and when Sanford was on his deathbead his son said i love u and sanford said "why would u"

    • @_______unknown_______
      @_______unknown_______ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      So yh he did try to have a good life but obviously he was still traumatised the poor guy

    • @lucyscott._.2003
      @lucyscott._.2003 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@_______unknown_______ that is sad and i didnt know any of that so thank you for telling me

    • @marshmallow4646
      @marshmallow4646 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@_______unknown_______ ;; that's sad, I am glad he had a normalish life though..

  • @kaitlinclarke919
    @kaitlinclarke919 3 ปีที่แล้ว +140

    hey Eleanor, I was wondering if you could maybe do a video on the Sophie Lancaster case? she was a British girl who was beaten to death for being dressed as a goth, and her boyfriend was also kicked into a coma for the same reason. I feel like it’s a case that more people should be aware of and the message it holds is so important. thank you for your time :)

    • @millymollymrst3537
      @millymollymrst3537 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I think this is a good case too.

    • @Kelly-yz9pj
      @Kelly-yz9pj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      This case is heart breaking. I watched a documentary on it and have knew about the case for years and it still breaks my heart every time. Coronation street have done a story line based on this case to get it out to the public to help share her story. Her mother helped the producers and writers every step of the way.

    • @vyzee404
      @vyzee404 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      seen a documentary about her five years ago and I haven't stopped thinking about her since ! such a beautiful soul

  • @heather_doestruecrime
    @heather_doestruecrime 3 ปีที่แล้ว +205

    I really really hope Sanford was able to go on and have a somewhat normal or happy life. I’m not sure what ended up happening to him but I’m really hoping it’s positive. 😞😞

    • @faefae2260
      @faefae2260 3 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      He got married and adopted two sons. He was afraid to have his own due to the family defects. Read his story. His mom and other members weren't all there

    • @psychicandice
      @psychicandice 3 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      Fortunately, he got a wife and adopted two children. Unfortunately, due to the sexual abuse he suffered he never walked normal again. He also blamed himself for all the shit he and those poor boys went through. On Sanford’s death bed, his son said “I love you, Dad” and Sanford’s last words were “why would you?”

    • @bluesapphireymca
      @bluesapphireymca 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@psychicandice that's so sad

    • @selamh.9484
      @selamh.9484 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@psychicandice what do you mean he never walked normal again?

    • @psychicandice
      @psychicandice 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@selamh.9484 he walked with a noticeable limp (and had to use a cane?). It’s been a while since I read The Road out of Hell which is about his life and abuse-in horrific detail.

  • @yxami2552
    @yxami2552 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I don’t comment often and I believe this is my first time commenting on your channel. I love watching you videos! It’s nice to hear cases while working/studying/or just drawing. It’s nice and I love how you explain the cases and aren’t like others who have to make them sound scary with background music or anything like sounds. Thank you !

  • @MariaVazquez-ln3bi
    @MariaVazquez-ln3bi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    I'm from Mira Loma and it's crazy to know that this happened 5 minutes from my house. I've driven past that street so many times and still get the chills

  • @amyturner3493
    @amyturner3493 3 ปีที่แล้ว +279

    So the uncle was less than 8 years older than his nephew, how did neighbours think it was his son?? 🤔

    • @salvolondon
      @salvolondon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      That was my exact thought . Maybe him being so hairy people thought he was much older than 21

    • @jamiealphabravo
      @jamiealphabravo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      She mentioned that the nephew had stopped growing due to malnourishment, so would have appeared much younger than he was, and tbh the uncle looks a lot older than 21.😬

    • @salvolondon
      @salvolondon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@jamiealphabravo he was a freak . It was unfortunate that his mother didn’t succeed in causing herself a miscarriage

    • @Bee-ly4gx
      @Bee-ly4gx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      There are 8 years and 12 days between my daughters and people have asked if they are mother and daughter. I presume these people must be blind or something.

    • @KindaSorta451
      @KindaSorta451 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      He looks like a pretty rough 21 though lol

  • @Ellie_xo
    @Ellie_xo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    The missing boy part coming home to the wrong family reminds me so much of the Bobby Dunbar case!

  • @traci3868
    @traci3868 3 ปีที่แล้ว +227

    "But they didn't really believe any of them were Walter." Okay, but then who was the kid banging on the window for help? That's disturbing.

    • @mimixmin
      @mimixmin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      Like Eleanor said, people were making up stuff just to be involved in the case so that may very well have been a false tip to the police.

    • @thecaptainsnark
      @thecaptainsnark 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@mimixmin it's also quite possible someone saw a kid in the back seat of a car goofing off and were already on the alert for 'suspicious activity'.

  • @gabibellebb
    @gabibellebb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1433

    I act like a kid on Christmas wanting to open presents whenever Eleanor uploads

  • @mistiweatherwax468
    @mistiweatherwax468 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Listening to all that happened to Christine just hurts my heart! As a mother of 4, this is the stuff that gives me horrendous nightmares. I appreciate Eleanor giving us the heads ups but I still had to listen. Can't bring myself to watch the movie still but I am intrigued (and horrified) by this.

  • @promiseelise3199
    @promiseelise3199 3 ปีที่แล้ว +192

    can we just take the time to talk about how much effort she puts in her videos and research!!

    • @tataniawood1539
      @tataniawood1539 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      She’s a Queen

    • @SasoAkasuna
      @SasoAkasuna 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I really really like her vids because of that, I've watched cases that I already knew about covered by her and it was by far the best decision! She includes a lot of info not every channel does and it can change a lot the way you see a case and such, she is my favorite creator :)

    • @kittyypie
      @kittyypie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      sometimes I wonder too how could she have found such detailed information in these cases, does she know anybody from the govt or police force? lol
      Im amazed at her research ability

  • @laurenleeonethree
    @laurenleeonethree 3 ปีที่แล้ว +340

    Walter's mom: "I don't think this is my son..."
    Police: "Uhhhh, well go ahead and try it out for a few weeks 🥴"

    • @liinuxx222
      @liinuxx222 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I know it's so stupid

    • @virgo1986ful
      @virgo1986ful ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The boy is not a new dress

  • @Mia-ex6wc
    @Mia-ex6wc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I appreciate how respectful you are when telling these stories and when mentioning possibly triggering things. Thank you.

  • @lexhope876
    @lexhope876 3 ปีที่แล้ว +117

    Bro the police did NOT just say “Try him out for a few weeks” ?!

    • @ashc6670
      @ashc6670 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      When u try out a product offline

  • @evelynmejia2344
    @evelynmejia2344 3 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    “Try him out for a couple of weeks” didn’t know that a kid was comparable to a shoe 👠..... 🤦‍♀️

  • @kendrickawilliams9232
    @kendrickawilliams9232 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I can admit when I’m wrong. I was definitely wrong when I said you repeat yourself a lot. You actually tell the story in a more unique and mysterious way without revealing too much too soon and I LOVE IT.

  • @warfmarf
    @warfmarf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +154

    I remember when Ryan and Shane at Buzzfeed Unsolved covered the disappearance of Walter Collins, and I’m extra glad to be hearing your rendition of that story and including the murders !!! Love u !!!

    • @_nehalennia
      @_nehalennia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      i was wondering where i knew this case from, thanks!

    • @sophiarose3608
      @sophiarose3608 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      yes i knew i’d recognized the case !!

  • @juliainzerillo
    @juliainzerillo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +129

    imagining the police being like “loook, that’s his dog” and the mom just being like 🧍‍♀️

    • @juliainzerillo
      @juliainzerillo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      “he knows how to get home!” 🧍‍♀️🏠

    • @MiaPeah_
      @MiaPeah_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I swear I pictured the scene lol

    • @biancham
      @biancham 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      “Ok yes dental records said it’s physically impossible for this to be your child, but the dog ran to him and that’s foolproof soooo”

    • @juliainzerillo
      @juliainzerillo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @dee “just a little test run”

  • @kjwonka
    @kjwonka 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    There was actually a bio of Sanford Clark written (believe the title is “The road out of hell”) - it’s pretty brutal but gives allot of information about his situation and Northcott’s motives/thoughts/whatever… worth reading if you are interested in this

  • @boop-xq7mi
    @boop-xq7mi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +133

    How was the police able to do that to that poor mother when she had the physical evidence from the dentist showing it wasn’t her son?! I would be going to the news with the records to prove myself

    • @shanewilliams9122
      @shanewilliams9122 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      1920s was a very terrible time. The movie "Changeling" with Angelina Jolie is a great movie on the subject. Definitely give it a look.

    • @TaLisaLovesDaveDay98
      @TaLisaLovesDaveDay98 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The police work on so many cases make absolutely no sense. It's so sad because literally everyone can see it's wrong, but can do nothing about it

  • @jasonhorton
    @jasonhorton 3 ปีที่แล้ว +612

    A little lunchtime crime time!

  • @BrownSugaBabe
    @BrownSugaBabe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I loved your intro about Babbel and learning Spanish for yourself and your self enrichment. I’m learning Korean because I think the language is truly beautiful and it’s something I can do for myself, by myself for an hour or two every evening. No one bothers me, I can have my downtime to learn and it’s something I am truly enjoying.

  • @AlizzaBliss
    @AlizzaBliss 3 ปีที่แล้ว +379

    "Just try him out for a couple weeks."
    He's a child not a stray dog lol Like WTF lol

    • @sierraaustralia7234
      @sierraaustralia7234 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Really disgusting a mother knows her child those police should have been jailed

    • @sersastark
      @sersastark 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Don't even do that to a dog.

    • @AlizzaBliss
      @AlizzaBliss 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@sersastark Honestly, agreed.

    • @faefae2260
      @faefae2260 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      1920...they treated children like laborers

  • @a.roshay
    @a.roshay 3 ปีที่แล้ว +178

    the movie “changeling” is actually based on this case. i never knew it was a true story until now 😭

    • @chloecooper-wright181
      @chloecooper-wright181 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      What a film ! I loved it. I knew it was based on a real story but didn’t think it was so similar , what shitty work the police did x

    • @MHS8807
      @MHS8807 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ohh man, now I have to spend $3.99 on prime to watch this movie lol 🤦🏼‍♀️

    • @chloecooper-wright181
      @chloecooper-wright181 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MHS8807 it’s worth it I promise.

    • @Amy-oy4qf
      @Amy-oy4qf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@MHS8807 you can watch it for free on soap2day!

    • @cherrizeberry7616
      @cherrizeberry7616 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I remember when I was about 10 years old we were on a holiday, my sister thought that I was asleep and watched the movie besides me. I was always into Horror and True Crime stuff so I watched the movie without her knowing. I couldn’t sleep that night and at one point I closed my eyes bc I just couldn’t watch it anymore. I only remember a scene where a man gives a little boy an axe and tells him to cut another little boys head off and that scene fucked me up. I never watched it since then, so I could totally remember it wrong as I was just 10 years old and my brain probably was too shook to remember correctly🤷🏼‍♀️ I didn’t know that it was based on a true story and found out when I was about 15 years old. The part that scares me the most is that I was never a girl who got scared easy, I watched way scarier movies when I was only 8 but I can’t bring myself to watch it again, even now that I’m 23 years old. I guess what I wanted to say with this whole book I just wrote, this case is probably the one that will haunt me the rest of my life, my heart just hurts so much for all the little kids as well as all the parents going through what I wouldn’t even wish on my worst enemy😔💔

  • @blindbandit9579
    @blindbandit9579 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    "Just try him out for a few weeks."
    She truly did get the "free" trial.

  • @sleepyyos4622
    @sleepyyos4622 3 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    I felt so bad for the mother of Walter , the police didn't do their job and caused more pain to her

  • @dan90716
    @dan90716 3 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    Woman: This is not my kid
    Police: What do you know about kids?
    Woman: I'm kinda a mom?
    *ends up in psychiatric ward*

  • @davonnieaprice2105
    @davonnieaprice2105 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    After watching “The Changeling” and reading about this story, I actually looked over my 4 boys for specific traits on them that I could use to tell the difference between them and a look alike (I suffered bad postpartum depression and this story popped up in my head a lot) Each one of my kids have something specific that I look at almost every day so that I would always remember it, from birth marks to specific identifying beauty marks, even in very “odd” places. To say this story had an effect even 100 years later is an understatement.

    • @aprilrodriguez410
      @aprilrodriguez410 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just "Changeling", "The Changeling" brings up a total different movie I learned.

  • @mrsmalik8923
    @mrsmalik8923 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    i absolutely love how Eleanor gives a TW at the beginning of each episode, as a lot of youtubers jump straight into the case w/o giving a warning for those who may be sensitive to those sort of topics.

  • @jamiecallahan5290
    @jamiecallahan5290 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Laid up after surgery on my leg. Grateful to have a new eleanor video to keep my busy! You're such a good storyteller and so respectful of content and parties involved in cases you present!

  • @alabamamartinez3545
    @alabamamartinez3545 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    i know she had no way of knowing what would happen, but i can’t help but be so damn angry at sanfords mother for allowing him to go live with that monster. i could NEVER let my 13 year old son go live with somebody other than myself with no way of communicating other than through letters, let alone in another country?! and then she went YEARS without even so much as a damn visit?! ARE YOU JOKING??? terrible terrible mother i don’t care what anybody says, if my baby told me he didn’t want to go that would have been that. i hope that poor boy went on to live a good life if that was even at all possible. this whole thing breaks my heart 💔

  • @nicole7894
    @nicole7894 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Her accent is comforting even when watching a 50 minute murder recap

  • @gatitoo_xx
    @gatitoo_xx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    OMG thank you Eleanor ❤️
    Did you know that this case was so disturbing/disgusting that Wineville actually had to change the name of the city to Mira Loma?
    I used to live near where this all happened 😱

    • @porshalily9345
      @porshalily9345 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very interesting. Thanks for the information. 🐱

  • @cranberryanonymous
    @cranberryanonymous 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Obsessed with this case since I seen The Changeling. I was about 9 years old and my friend showed it to me on a broken laptop, I remember being totally engrossed in the story. I literally refused to believe it was real for a week or two

  • @madistandardwhite5796
    @madistandardwhite5796 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Would you consider covering the ‘Manendez brothers’ case? There is a lot of friction around the retrial at the moment and I think it would be interesting to get a whole oversight

  • @luci8803
    @luci8803 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    PLEASE cover the case of Mauerova's family, also known as the Kuřim case. It's a crazy story from the Czech republic with a mindblowing twist, you will be shocked!

  • @LucyLioness100
    @LucyLioness100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This is one of the saddest & creepiest cases I’ve ever read about. The worst part is Christine never really got to know what happened to Walter. If you want a good adaptation of the case & specifically Christine’s ordeal, watch “Changeling” but be warned it gets tough to watch

  • @mikaylawinland
    @mikaylawinland 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    i absolutely adore that you put trigger warnings on your videos and give people a warning of things that could be possibly upsetting and then say “just click out i’m sure i’ll see you soon” it’s so genuine and pure ♥️

  • @rachelcurtis749
    @rachelcurtis749 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Yess, was literally looking through my home page looking for something to watch.. Thanks for coming thru Eleanor!!

  • @eternia1229
    @eternia1229 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This was one of the very few cases I couldnt fully sit through. Amazing content Eleanor, ill see you for the next video

  • @ashleywilliams4665
    @ashleywilliams4665 3 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    “This is not my son”
    “Close enough”

    • @solluxcaptor6823
      @solluxcaptor6823 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      “You wanted a kid you got a kid. Beggars can’t be choosers.”

  • @sleepyyos4622
    @sleepyyos4622 3 ปีที่แล้ว +126

    Eleanor post
    me: SHE'S A RUNNER SHE'S A TRACKSTAR 🏃🏻‍♀️🏃🏻‍♀️

  • @kunglao9213
    @kunglao9213 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    There’s a movie that came out in 2008 based on this case. It’s called “changeling”
    10 out of 10 would recommend!

  • @kimberlychiimba
    @kimberlychiimba 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Aww guys my heart just broke the more Eleanor told this story. It started out so well. I don’t know why I had high hope this one would go different. Eleanor is such a good storyteller she conveys it so well

  • @charliejones9560
    @charliejones9560 3 ปีที่แล้ว +273

    I clicked faster then TH-cam could give me an ad for premium

    • @ellasiaskylry
      @ellasiaskylry 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same I came here when the video was posted at 1 sec😂

    • @alexandrad7896
      @alexandrad7896 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Stop that 😂😂😂❤️

    • @jackbrown4120
      @jackbrown4120 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't care.

  • @rhymewren211
    @rhymewren211 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    It’s so weird to me that the police didn’t check the dental records and the mother had to go do it. I was thinking maybe they didn’t have dental records of her son at the time or something, but the police could’ve looked at dental records but chose instead to run those ...”tests”? lmao what?

    • @rachaelm.7802
      @rachaelm.7802 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mom should have made detective instead of sent to a psych hospital. It would have been a real benefit to the town and saved time.

    • @anitaevans5361
      @anitaevans5361 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cops r lazy, back then & still today. This was a hundred years ago & children r still abducted & trafficked. I'm pretty sure if we made this issue a priority, we could lower the numbers immensely. We have not evolved all that much, it's embarrassing.

  • @irenezia
    @irenezia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    FINALLYYYYY I BEEN COMING HERE EVERYDAY FOR THE LAST 4 DAYSSSS

  • @krissyfranklin6917
    @krissyfranklin6917 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    I honestly watch so much true crime that by the time the second part comes out I have no idea what she said in the first one. 🤦🏽‍♀️ I usually try not to watch until the second one comes out... but here I am...

    • @Chloe299XxX
      @Chloe299XxX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same 😆 felt like ages since a good proper case was out. So had to listen

    • @licietheskeleton
      @licietheskeleton 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same mate, previous 2 parters I've clicked the first vid when its uploaded then hear it said that it's gonna be a 2 parter then I click off and wait for the 2nd part to come out before watching both back to back

    • @licietheskeleton
      @licietheskeleton 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Chloe299XxX I somewhat recently found a fairly good podcast type true crime series here on TH-cam if you're interested? Majority of the videos are an hour or longer and are VERY detailed.

    • @krissyfranklin6917
      @krissyfranklin6917 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@licietheskeleton What is it? I have been watching all the That Chapter videos over but they are kinda short.

    • @licietheskeleton
      @licietheskeleton 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@krissyfranklin6917 it's called "Human Monsters", which I find is quite a fitting name. The longest video is 5+ hours and a good number are around 2 or 3 hours. I can send a link to the playlist if you'd like?

  • @aunttim
    @aunttim 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    "Changeling' starring Angelina Jolie was based on Christine Collins and Walter Collins. It is such a heartbreaking movie

  • @callofdutywarzone9709
    @callofdutywarzone9709 3 ปีที่แล้ว +171

    Eleanor needs her own Netflix show 🥰

  • @winniethepooh8861
    @winniethepooh8861 3 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    Just imagine everyone watching this right now is watching at the same time and no one has finished this video. Congrats on being so early that nobody has watched the full video yet😌😌

  • @Salma-mv3ky
    @Salma-mv3ky 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    PLEASE PLEASE can you cover the shukri abdi case. it’s such a heart breaking story with barely any media coverage or attention :((

    • @Dream-kx2mw
      @Dream-kx2mw 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      She has already covered it

    • @Salma-mv3ky
      @Salma-mv3ky 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Dream-kx2mw no she hasn’t? where

    • @Dream-kx2mw
      @Dream-kx2mw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Salma-mv3ky she has but it’s one of her older cases if I find it I’ll tell u the title

    • @Salma-mv3ky
      @Salma-mv3ky 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Dream-kx2mw okay thanks.

  • @jessicawhalen2939
    @jessicawhalen2939 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I was so excited to see this!!!
    I’m from Jurupa Valley/Mira Loma California and it used to be called Wineville. I’ve driven on that street a million times and it’s astonishing how many locals have no idea that this happened!

    • @nancyv1086
      @nancyv1086 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’m from here too & always wanted to know more about this story. 🥺

  • @hoibsh21
    @hoibsh21 3 ปีที่แล้ว +340

    Me: I'm gonna do twice the amount of homework so I can catch up.
    Eleanor: Suh today's videuh is........
    Me: Never mind.

    • @brb2mins371
      @brb2mins371 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      This is brilliant 😂

    • @aidacollet8599
      @aidacollet8599 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I’m happy to know I’m not the only one 😂