Unless it’s raining or it’s 6-8 months of the year. I live in Florida and I basically get 2k miles a year on my bike. Bikes have their own expenses and few bikes are more than 50 miles a day tolerable. Just a heads up for new riders.
You guys started out great with the small displacement bikes, then went off the rails with everything else. The best commuter bike I owned was the CBR250R, but it has some flaws. Those flaws were fixed by my Versys X 300. It has a 4.5 gallon tank, upright seating position, wind screen, faring, luggage rack, on/off road capability, plenty of power and only cost $5500!
I have owned many many bikes in my 50 years of riding and my Versys 300 is the overall funnest bike ever . It is a Swiss Army knife of motorcycles . They started out telling mileage with tiny bikes and then quit . My 300 gets a low of 62 up to about 66 and at 4.5 gallons gives a great range . Mine is equipped with 50/50 tires and skid plate because I adveture ride it , but it still carves up the corners surprisingly well . The ABS works well , saved me from hitting an elk .
Yeah, 250s 300s and similar are the best for commuting and eventually going on highways.. super cheap to run, effiicent and easy to ride. i would start on a meteor nowadays. price and mileage are so appealing. great quality bike too
I used to ride a KLR 250 that got 65-75 MPG. Much bigger, more rounded use bike than a Grom, I don't understand why those types of bikes would not be considered practical here either. It would do freeway drives where a Grom cannot. lol
RE Him has gone up in price, especially when you add the $500 required service after just a few hundred miles to readjust the valves and flush the oil. Now they are about what a MT03 or the standard Kawasaki is, which are better bikes with more HP (twins) and a more reliable company. The Meteor is the bottom price now and therefore knocked the Him. up in price by a few hundred. It's only 21hp and sluggish at the heavy weight. Comfy though.
I rode one of the first year bikes for a couple weeks in India, it had the chain stretch out so much it needed a couple links removed, the license plate vibrated off and the centered strand broke! Not exactly high quality, but in its defense it didn't have any show stopping failures.
The NC is simply phenomenal. With gas prices being the way they are, I'm so happy to be able to swing a leg and go on a trip without being so worried about the fuel economy. It's also wonderfully smooth, comfy with a passenger and even gets compliments every now and then.
Bought one in 15, 68mpg overall since I've owned it. Set of side cases and a top box and it's got car like carrying capacity. It's got 40k on it thus far with 0 issues.
Alot of comments about this class. I agree, it's the most fuel efficient class that you can still ride on ANY high speed American road. My Baby Njnja 300 is the perfect combination of sprightly acceleration, fuel economy, corner-carving goodness, reliability and looks. They didn't even mention the best class of bikes for fuel efficiency that's still freeway capable! They could've changed the title to "Commuter bikes we like the most", and left the false "Most fuel efficient" premise out of the title.
I think you missed 2 important points about the nc750x 1. Possibly highest fuel efficiency for size of engine. 2. Low rpm high torque making it easy to ride in town.
It's criminal that the CB500F/R/X didn't get a mention -- easily some of the best mile munchers with lowest running costs. Get from 70 to 90 mpg with regular fuel (300 mi tanks), lower insurance than even the 300/400 class, and the relaxed engine has good low-end power (from about 2k RPM), not to mention lots of people have over 200,000 km on them without issue. These and the NC750X (which is street, not adventure anymore) are perfect commuter bikes and happy at freeway speeds. These expensive powerful bikes cost more to run than cars, burn just as much fuel, and cost more in insurance. The mini motos are too expensive for what they are, can't go on freeways, and have relatively short engine life and service intervals.
My CB500f is my favorite bike I’ve owned. So easy to ride and the low down torque makes it more fun around town than my ZX-6R. These 500’s as well as many Hondas are kind of underrated.
In Europe a friend told me that they are paying 11 euros per gallon! I wonder how costly it’s going to get and for how long? I pay 160 monthly for my Honda500fa and pay 16 dollars to fill up after getting 250 miles per tank. For my car I paid $300 monthly plus $150 for full coverage and it has 11 gallon tank. I get 350 miles per tank …
I'm not sure how you got the idea than a CB500 is cheaper than a 300/400 class but I just ran a couple of estimates with GEICO, and the CB500F is much higher than either the Ninja 400 or Z400. I haven't tried the R3 or Mt-03, but I also imagine those will be cheaper. The only way the CB500 will be cheaper is if you're comparing an older CB500 with s newer 300/400 class vehicle. I also looked up the fuel economy and the range seems to be from 50-70, not 70-90. I'm sure the CB500 platform is great but don't spread false information.
@@joemann7971 Insurance for me in Ontario, Canada (which is always high) was C$700/yr for brand new CBR500R... the Ninja 400 was C$1,150/yr. When I asked why, they said it was due to the number of claims, which is higher with the Ninja. Either people are riding them more dangerously, or newer riders are choosing the N400 while people like me are choosing the Honda 500s as a second bike, thus less likely to have beginner crashes. In any case, those were the numbers for me and they kind of made sense when they explained it. In the end I chose the 500R. As for fuel econ, my best tank was 2.6 L/100km (90.5 USMPG), worst 3.4 L/100km (69.5 USMPG), average of 3.1 L/100km (75.9 USMPG). This is on regular fuel in Ontario which has 10% ethanol blend. I don't know what else to tell you -- that's what I get. Now it depends a whole lot on how you ride. Freeway above 110 km/h and it plummets towards 3.6 L/100km. Putting around town and commuting I've even seen as low as 2.2-2.3 L/100km. These are real numbers over 15,000 km of riding (two seasons). Looking on Fuelly, all the Honda 500 variants show about 10% better fuel economy compared with the Ninja 400 and R3. I have yet to see many other bikes that have the combination of performance, longevity, and low running costs as the 500R/F/X. I can tell you with certainty that bigger bikes like the Tracer 9 that are more expensive to buy and run shouldn't be in any list of "top 5 money saving commuter bikes" while the Honda 500s are omitted.
@@joemann7971 I don’t want to dispute any of your claims, and you’re right on with the mpg estimate, I am getting 59 mpg. But I want to mention that the quote I had with Geico was awful, way overpriced for the cb500f. Another provider had me insured very affordably.
I live my 15 Suzuki Vstrom 650. It's very versatile and does great on gas, 55-63 mpgs. I know it typically doesn't end up an any lists but I haven't gotten bored with it yet and I call that a win in my book.
I bought a Honda Monkey last year for fun. And it is a blast to ride, I haven't really used my Harley since I got it. Now with gas prices where they are going, I think it's going to be primary transportation for me this summer. I would add the Royal Enfield Meteor 350 to the list... It's only $4500 and can do highway speeds
CJ Totally agree with you. I also bought a 2021 Monkey & I echo your feelings. I also have bigger bikes, but that Monkey makes it harder for me to get on them. That's unless i'm going 2 up.
V-Strom 650. Cheap. Reliable, faster than most cars and hauls a bunch of crap. Does wheelies and gets 45-70 mpg with a 5.5 gallon tank. Runs on 87 gas. Effortlessly handles highway speeds. You can stand up on it too.
My experience with a liter bike is that it's not great on the fuel. Mine is about 10 years old, so your mileage will vary. Also, even though it's more fun, I also tend to need new tires every year because my bike chews up tires (even dual compound tires) My thought is that riding a motorcycle is a reward in and of itself. Some bikes might be more or less economical, but they are all fun.
I totally agree with your choice of the Honda NC750X. A little difficult to get one right now, but I will definitely put one in my garage for commuting.
Used to have a z650 and it got something like 50 or 60 mpg. It was plenty quick and the mileage was awesome. But I sold it for a z900. I can say I definitely am not saving any money with a motorcycle but that’s ok. Smiles per gallon.
I'm sure you're getting at least 35 or so MPG. You're still getting the performance of a gas guzzler with the fuel economy of a small sedan. That's still not bad.
I'm with Southerndeth below. You guys went off the rails. Spending 8 to 15k is hardly saving any money. And I think there are few of us that really want to commute on a Navi. My picks are XT250, KLX300, TU250 (if you can even get your hands on one) and CRF300. Rallye version of you need the extra styling. And, can't forget the Himalayan. Affordable out the door, hellishly good mileage for each one, low insurance costs as well.
Yeah the list is more of a "Here are some random motorcycles that are being sold new." It gets into Zero price range with no mention of electrics at any price. If it's really a Top 5 money saving commuter bikes, they should either not cost so much to buy, or make up for it by removing fuel and engine maintenance costs. A $15k bike (Tracer) that doesn't get phenomenal mileage really has no place on a money-saving list.
I commute on a Kawasaki Z900, I get close to 50MPG when driving easy. I like to have something a little more powerful than a 300-500cc because my commute includes highway and mountain roads. Bottom line is you have to find what fits your commute but there is nothing better than commuting on a bike, splitting lanes through thick traffic on my way home is the best feeling in the world. I wish more people would choose a motorcycle as their preferred method of commuting to cut down on overall congestion.
Great video and info on the topic. I use my bikes as primary year round transportation just for reference to my opinion. Have done so on the Yamaha FZ6 from 2007 until I got my Kymco Spade in 2021. I still have and love the FZ6 and had other small two wheelers along the way. If someone asks me about getting a motorcycle mainly for the gas savings, I will usually refer them to a 150cc scooter first (250 to 400cc if interstate is involved). They are cheap (to maintain) and convenient. Cost of consumable parts and maintenance can eat away gas savings fast on a bigger (nicer) motorcycle over an economy car. The answer is the bike you have or a scooter if you already have a bike. This is just for those who's soul purpose is to save money.
I'm a proud owner of a bone stock 2010 Aprilia Mana 850 and imo its an outstandingly practical commuter bike - super duper fuel efficient and so practical. Jay leno's got the naked, whereas mine's the GT with the panniers and looks so damn good with the panniers on. Done around 15,000 kms on it over 3 years so far. Cant be happier. 😇
could not agree more. id say the pcx is better than the mini motos. cvt make it easy to ride and that storage is what i want in a commuter plus 50cc larger engine
@@joecamel6835 I’m 6’3 and have no issue with leg space. Unless you ride with your heels on the peg (which you shouldn’t) you won’t have an issue with leg room
I would not consider any of these to commute on; looking for one now, that is more capable than my BMW C650 Sport. A grom on the 405 California highway?
My DR-Z 400 is going to start pulling double duty as a commuter as soon as its warm enough. Spending 8 to 10 grand on a bike just to commute does not make much sense. You would be riding that thing for years and for thousands of miles before you started to recoup any gas costs you were trying to offset.
If you don’t start…..In Europe a friend told me that they are paying 11 euros per gallon! I wonder how costly it’s going to get and for how long? I pay 160 monthly for my Honda500fa and pay 16 dollars to fill up after getting 250 miles per tank. For my car I paid $300 monthly plus $150 for full coverage and it has 11 gallon tank. I get 350 miles per tank …
In Canada we are at or close to $2/l or over $7 a gallon. Driving my DRZ 400 which gets 50mpg vs my F150 which gets like 15 will add up quick. Costs my like $15 to drive to work and back in the truck vs like $4 on the bike.
I started on a 650 Suzuki Savage. Single cylinder low weight low center of gravity low horses (sigh) but great starter bike. Had no problem taking it in Canada 500KM north to camp a week throwing a duffel bag on back and wearing a backpack that gave me combined a soft comfortable back rest. My GF rode one across Canada 5000 Km. So a starter bike with girl friendly weight you can comfortably ride all day on and enjoy and will get you where you want to go... even if it's 5000Km away. Oh and it's belt drive. Really beginner friendly.
There are so many factors to consider. If you want a motorcycle because you want a motorcycle, get one. If you are thinking about a motorcycle to save money you need to look at all the costs to buy, maintain, insure, plus the purchase of gear etc. If you are considering a mini-moto to ride to work you probably aren't commuting far with your car. Might as well buy a bicycle. My neighbor rode 100 miles round trip year round for 180,000 miles. He switched to a used Corolla and spends way less money overall.
FortNine did an excellent segment on buying a motorcycle to save transportation costs. Rarely does it break even when you own an otherwise working car. If you love riding bikes, I'd say that's reason enough.
I disagree with your water cooled requirement (and apparently you do, too). That would exclude some really fun and affordable bikes, including the Honda mini-motos (Navi, Monkey, Grom, Super Cub) which somehow got on your list anyway…?
My two cents: I road twenty years, about three seasons a year on commuter bikes. first one a BMW F650, about 50 MPG, had a windscreen and a 400 W alternator so I could power heated grips and vests. Second one was a BMW F800 ST with similar specs, 50 MPG, 400 W alternator, aftermarket windscreen. You say, "Oh BMWs are expensive." Well, I got mine as model end close outs. Saved a bunch. I had either hard or soft luggage, at times, to carry tools and service parts for my job. I had to get on roads where traffic was 70-80 MPH and ruthless so smaller bikes were not practical. I got caught in rain and cold. Aerostich, heated grips, and windscreen were all a Godsend. Get a helmet with anti-fog lens. Another thing: get a Scott Oiler or similar. You ride five days a week and somedays, when you get home wet, cold, and tired, you just want to hit the shower and not oil your chain.
Worst commuter is my old VTX1800. Granted, I acquired it whenever fuel wasn't much of an issue. It is still currently my best choice though as it is more fuel efficient than either of my other vehicles. 33 mpg in ideal conditions with a stiff breeze on your back, but man is it fun.
The Honda Cub is the way to go. It has wind protection, big wheels, built in storage and great mileage. You don't see them in the states so much, but everywhere else they are literally the best and only answer to this question. I like the trail of course, but the cub is the goat.
Road Glide Limited - great commuter. 40-44 mpg. plenty of space. And if you buy it new lifetime tires(I go through 1.5 a year) and option to get free maintenance (I do ~15k miles a year on conservative side) definitely take a bright spot.
You missed a segment of scooters that most people are unaware of, the three wheelers. I worked with a lady that one would NEVER suspect of riding a scooter, she commuted on a Piaggio. For people that might be afraid of two wheels, the three wheelers maybe just the ride. Personally, I’m thinking about a Monkey. Thanks for the reviews.
I have been really impressed with my 2021 KTM Duke 390 as a commuter. I bought it just to get out and have fun with, but with fuel prices what they are I'm now commuting on it to work whenever I can. I consistently get over 68 MPG and recently reset the trip meter after a fill-up and decided to stay off the throttle and MPG has jumped up to 76 with just a little effort towards getting good mileage instead of playing with the acceleration. 0 to 60 is around 5.5 seconds so it is faster than all but the fastest cars with plenty of power to get out of trouble. Comfortable upright riding position, terrific handling and it has been 100% reliable. It's not perfect, the light weight that makes it great in corners makes it less stable on the highway and it has zero built-in storage but most bikes that do better in that area don't get the good mileage a lighter bike will either. I'm an average size guy so it fits me fine but if you're a huge individual definitely go sit on one to see how it fits your frame. I typically think of mini motos and scooters when 70+ MPG is considered but with this you get the best of both worlds with great mileage and a real motorcycle that is a ball to ride.
That's a bike and interesting. How much do you pay for yours? Here in SoCal I was quoted for a 2022 at $7,200 OTD. I'm aiming at a husqvarna svartpilen but there are none in my area.
@@davidzavala337 I just bought a 2022 Vitpilen in MA for 6700 OTD. I wanted the Svart but there was only one within 4 hours, in NJ for 8200 OTD. There was a Duke for 6900 an hour away, but I personally like the look of the Huskys more. If you can find either of the huskies, there's very minor differences between the two and either can be converted to the other pretty easily.
@@davidzavala337 I lucked out and found mine used just a few months old and still within the 600 mile break in period. It's pretty rare to find them on the used market because of their popularity but if you can obviously you will save on the dealer prep and whatever ridiculous markup they are charging. Mine has been great, over 3200 miles now and it still looks brand new.
Curious as you mentioned couple of Honda cbr models in the video as to what you think on the cb300r, price wise can get them for 3/4 k over here on 2019 plates, it does motorway miles as I can atest to being as I used one regularly to get to work which is 90 mile round trip each day, fuel wise erm that depends on how heavy handed you are with the throttle tbf it is bit thirstier than some of my other bikes but not terrible imo
I daily a CRF300L. 72MPG. I dont ride it on the freeway but where i live its very easy to commute taking side roads with comparable time to arrival as taking the freeway.
I began riding in 1965 on a Ward's Riverside 125. Our family includes a Grom and a Navi for extreme MPG savings! Mid-size bikes are next in economy. My 250cc Venox can be baby'd to 70mpg but hi speeds drop it to 50mpg. 200cc to 250cc scooters and scrambler style bikes with bags ought to be great economically. Do you have experience in that range of bikes?
If fuel savings is your goal, the NC750 and Z/Ninja 400 (or 650) make a lot of sense. Everything else is either too small to want to ride every day or not very efficient. The Tracer 9, MT-09/XSR900 and Street Scrambler are going to be in the mid-40s mpg. You're just as well off with a Civic.
Hear me out, we beg Honda to make the next gen Grom like the new rebel and you can buy it with a 125 or with the lowest rebel engine, the 300. Then that sucker could go on the interstate across the country at 85 if you wanted. I think they should put belt drive on the 300 version for easier maintenance tbh. I hate chains and I never want to clean one If I don't have to. But I'll adjust a belt once in a while. A belt on the 125 wouldn't be worth it because it would reduce power to the wheel too much. But a 300 engine crammed in there with a belt might be a whole different story
I currently have an MT-07 for my commuter. I truly love this bike, so much so that i'm considering an upgrade to the MT-09 but I am torn on whether I want to part with my MT-07. It great fuel economy at around 60mpg (it's even rated better than the MT-03), sounds awesome with the Akra carbon exhaust, and has all the power you need for highway riding. I'll likely trade it for an MT-09 this weekend, but I definitely plan on getting an XSR700 down the road. The worst commuter biked I owned was a Ninja ZX-10R. That's pretty much self explanatory.
With all the bikes your guys are playing with, I’d like to see your impression of one of the oldest school designs they still make new… the yamaha tw200. See how that stacks up to some of these other commuter dual purpose bikes.
I commute mostly using my fzi150. 46km/L with a 12L tank. Built like a tank and gets me anywhere while i have my ninja 400 for squiding. Good mileage as well and has speed when i need it. Both bikes never hurts my back. And yeah your list should have stopped at the 400-500cc because the main point here is mileage.
Further vouch on the 390 Duke. Sips fuel, robust, comfy, and absolutely playful, especially in corners. Love mine. Will say out of all these the NC700/750x are definitely the ultimate commuter machines.
Had a 2017 ninja 300. Best bike ever. Did 110mph wasn't huntched over like other sport bikes. Took turns easy flipping it back and fourth because it was so light, 60mpg if you cruised on it right. $4k cash new off show room floor. Wish I never sold it. Guy bought it and turned it into a endurance race bike lol. Pretty cool.
Completely skipped the cruiser segment. Lots of good and cheap ones that are liquid cooled versatile and comfortable, mor comfortable than naked for sure. I think these guys have their sponsors and their bases they’re playing to and aren’t all around motorcycle enthusiasts.
What's the best beginner (easy to grow into so maybe 500cc and up?) bike that is great for commuting but you can still go for long rides and maybe abit of adventure (light greenlaning) if you wanted?
I'm really surprised you left out one, I just bought a new Honda PCX 160. 98MPG top speed 85+MPH price is less than 5grand. 4 valve liquid cooled. huge amounts of storage.
If you are looking to save fuel you have to go with low deplacement bikes. I commute with a 21 Honda Grom. I might step up to a crf 300 or the husky svartpilen 401 due to lak of speed on the Grom. My second bike is a BMW S1000XR, but its not very fuel efficent compared with the Grom.
If you live in the urban parts of California the best reason to commute on a motorcycle is that you can split lanes on the highways as well as ride in the high occupancy commuter lanes where they are available. Being able to slip through dense traffic that has stalled cars and trucks is like having a super power. Once you get the hang of lane splitting you'll realize that it's actually much safer than poking along like the 4 wheel vehicles are forced to do. Lane splitting should be made legal in all 50 states and territories. Sometimes the best ideas do come from the west.
That was my first bike. Just sold it last year. It’s not terrible. I didn’t daily it but I did rip around on it on weekends. Just be mindful of the speed limits on your commute.
I like the TNT. Just be mindful of part supply. I use a Kymco Spade 150 and love it. Getting parts for it is a challenge currently. It's been super reliable, but things wear out with use no matter how good the brand is. Kymco is a well known big brand around the world, but support in America is not great these days and dealers are limited. I order consumables early and it took months to get rear brake shoes from our local dealer. Just a FYI when considering lesser known brands.
I disagree. I've been commuting on my CBF for a few years now. I estimate I've saved money on the upfront cost of the bike Vs driving my car (I have a basic, fuel efficient hatchback), including maintenance. I've also saved time because I can filter through traffic. Fuel here in the UK is frighteningly expensive, so savings really do add up quickly.
The mt/fz07 is great for commuting same motor as the xsr700 but cheaper new ones are around $7,500 new with abs older ones are cheaper but without abs.
You guys are doing some brilliant work in this channel. But remember, that what you’d end up saving in fuel costs you’d pretty much end up spending in tires; motorcycle tires don’t last too long. For my 10.5 mile commute here in western NC I ride a 2019 XT250 and a 2020 R3. They’re extremely reliable and best of all CHEAP to own. $55 monthly full cover insurance for both bikes 😎🔥
@@MotoLopez1k still cost money to buy new or used. Think about how much gas you can buy with $1000-$2000. Buying something to save doesn't even make sense in most cases.
Finally a video that nails what I was looking for. Looking to get a bike this month solely because gas prices are out of control. Okay and I need something a bit more reliable than my older bimmer 😂
I agree. You can make motorcycles an economic transportation option, but these details are often missing from the conversation. Hard to save money when comparing purchasing a bike over using what you already have or a higher end motorcycle to a economy car.
I don’t know if it’s the best commuter but I’ve been riding the 2019 Suzuki vstrom 650 for the last 3 years and it’s been a really good all rounder and get 460ks out of a 20 litre tank 70 horsepower which isn’t a lot but enough to still have fun in the twistys good for taking the misses out on the weekends and can take it on a few off-road trails to I’ve put a givi 47 litre top box on it and a akrapovic exhaust and racked up nearly 40000ks on it
I agree with most people here that this vid missed the mark in a big way. Your showing bikes to guys that are damn near the price of a brand new Basic Kia. This is so off the mark. The Navi yes, but if we are talking budget commuter bike you shouldn’t be showing anything over $6K. Grom, Monkey, Z125, CB300 up to something like a KLR650 at most. These are bikes that guys can ride on a budget. When you start talking about Yamaha 9GT,,,,come on. You put $15k, tax, doc, license….your 17K. By the time you pay that off your $22K into it. Not even close to “budget”. You might wanna do a follow up vid “Real budget bikes, not pipe dreams”. Your mileage may very. Peace.
Some of the bikes you guys mentioned are way too pricey for just commuter. For just commuting, I like the honda Rebel 500 for freeway commute and the 300cc for city. The Husqvarna Svartpilen is one of the best deals out there. Remember 300cc are freeway capable, but at at the limit with no more power, but 400 to 500cc have that extra poke for freeway commute. If you want more, then you want a toy, which is fine, whoe doesn't like speed, but for someone in a budget and for commute a bike needs to be less than $7 or $5 from city commute.
Good suggestive video, however, I miss the actual gas mileage! Except for the first couple of mini-motos, you did not mentions actual gas consumption. I've had few bikes and always watch gas mileage.. But as my '98 CBR1100XX used to get about 33-36 around city, it would easily climb up to 47-50 on the highway... Now, saddling 2021 CB100R - i am half highway and half side street (40 miles daily, I average 38, and don't seem to get it better.. My previous bike 2017 FXDLS with a 110 CI Screaming Eagle would run about 39 miles on a gallon, and that was all side/city streets! And yes, I am looking for my next ride.. Cheers and keep it rubber down!!
Why have you got such bad reverb when you have walls of sound absorption and specific microphones for the job? Maybe you have the wrong polar pattern setting or something?
I live in california and have a z400. Amazing around town bike. I live in a small coastal town and there is no speed limit above 55 in any direction for atleast 45 minutes so typically it has all the power I need. I ride it pretty hard though and average 51 mpg. I did ride it on a 3 hour trip with a lot of freeway recently. It starts suffering a bit after 70mph and cruising at 80mph had my hands buzzing pretty hard from vibration. As a city commuter bike I am in love. For long trips I want something more.
Check out maxi scooters for that. You could check out the Suzuki Burgman, though check the engine size, since they can be as small as 125 up to 600 cc. They have a 400 cc that goes up to around 90 MPH, which should be OK for highway use. You also have the BMW C400X, and the Yamaha XMax, just to name a few. I do believe all those are 400 cc scooters.
I agree on the 700cc class bike; light simple bike and enough power for this altitude (I work about 2 mins from TFL HQ). I mostly ride an R12GS and the big Sport & ADV tourers make good practical commuters but the economics just aren't there with the high cost of entry, costly maintenance and not the best MPGs (40 on the R12GS). I secretly want one of those Trail 125s, I see you ended in Lyons, but you should've ventured up to Estes to see who it could handle the steep grade.
I live in Los Angeles and the thing I'm mostly worried about is getting rear ended or side swap in a lane merge cuz people look at their phone more than the road and drive super fast and jump on the breaks when they have to instead of driving properly
What, no dual sport bikes on the list? I ride a DR-650 which can be converted to a supermoto. Nothing can match it in heavy traffic and is a blast to ride. Great riding position, lots of torque and you can stand up on the pegs giving you a clear view over cars. Very little maintenance and if you lay it down there is a good chance you won't damage it being a dirt bike with blinkers.
I wish you would have done this with a $7k ceiling, and include used bikes. I've commuted on everything from a Honda C110 to a V-strom 1000, and the choices are almost endless, particularly now with a generation of used fuel injected bikes. Taking in the range, we're talking about everything from a brand new Monkey OR a used DL1000 for the same amount of money. Crazy times for motorcycle enthusiasts. Thanks for carrying the torch.
The champion of commonly manufactured bikes was IMO the Honda Super Cub from the 60s. Could get like 240mpg(!!!)., They were super reliable and could last VERY long if maintained decently. Could be driven while carrying WAY more than most motorcycles because of the underbone design (can carry a bag there, or quite large objects) and the rear platform, and because you can ride without using your left hand (no clutch since semi-auto transmission)
If your gonna buy a motorcycle to save on fuel cost dont forget to factor in tires because motorcycle tires dont last anywhere close to as long as car tires. Also winter months and rain days you wont be going too far on a bike.
Fine by me because I live in a desert. Their is almost no rain days. Only cold or hot days. Tires aren't as bad as you would think. Especially if you get a smaller bike like a Grom or some kind of 250-300. They're affordable enough that one set a season isn't the end of the world. The gas savings helps pay for it. Plus their is already lots of savings by not buying a new 20k+ car
I have been looking for a supercub, a trail 125, and a Navi. You can't buy them anywhere near what they are asking, they have about $2k mark-ups if you can even find them. So $6k for a Honda trail 125
Cb300r. It's only a bit more than the Monkey/Trail and you get twice the horse-power and if you are easy on the accel, can be pretty damn fuel efficient.. like 90+mpg. I went out for a ride with a buddy of mine (on a z900) and we both came back on half tanks... he had to spend a lot of time at the speed limit to let me catch up and I was wringing it on the cb... and I still did 70mpg.
Honda CB300R is the ideal commuter because good MPG and narrow, short wheel base, high forks so good for filtering through traffic in cities. Honda CB300R is like a grown up Honda Grom.
I like cruisers, but did discover when commuting and trying to illegally park in the city to avoid expensive parking garages, the sports bikes were shorter so could fit in tiny spots that my cruiser couldn't. (almost bought a sports/naked bike just to commute on.)
You could have the crappiest day at work, but when you come out to throw a leg over a bike to go home, the rest of your day can be amazing.
Unless it’s raining or it’s 6-8 months of the year. I live in Florida and I basically get 2k miles a year on my bike. Bikes have their own expenses and few bikes are more than 50 miles a day tolerable. Just a heads up for new riders.
@@tres311 Florida would be my dream motorbike climate
Amen. Morning and 5pm… always look fwd to it. Yabadaba doo time!
@@zeez9053 The central valley of California is awesome for riding all year. No snow, little rain. Mountains nearby.
@@elevationmoto6208 I can't wait to ride around the valley soon. Except for that heat 🥵
You guys started out great with the small displacement bikes, then went off the rails with everything else. The best commuter bike I owned was the CBR250R, but it has some flaws. Those flaws were fixed by my Versys X 300. It has a 4.5 gallon tank, upright seating position, wind screen, faring, luggage rack, on/off road capability, plenty of power and only cost $5500!
I have owned many many bikes in my 50 years of riding and my Versys 300 is the overall funnest bike ever . It is a Swiss Army knife of motorcycles . They started out telling mileage with tiny bikes and then quit . My 300 gets a low of 62 up to about 66 and at 4.5 gallons gives a great range . Mine is equipped with 50/50 tires and skid plate because I adveture ride it , but it still carves up the corners surprisingly well . The ABS works well , saved me from hitting an elk .
Nice!
Yeah, 250s 300s and similar are the best for commuting and eventually going on highways.. super cheap to run, effiicent and easy to ride. i would start on a meteor nowadays. price and mileage are so appealing. great quality bike too
They getting paid to push certain bikes.
For the same price I got the Kawasaki z 400.
Top tip. You're not gonna safe gas on a 1200cc bike.
The Royal Enfield Himalayan doesn’t cost much more than a Grom, gets 70 mpg and can carry a weeks worth of groceries.
I used to ride a KLR 250 that got 65-75 MPG. Much bigger, more rounded use bike than a Grom, I don't understand why those types of bikes would not be considered practical here either. It would do freeway drives where a Grom cannot. lol
RE Him has gone up in price, especially when you add the $500 required service after just a few hundred miles to readjust the valves and flush the oil.
Now they are about what a MT03 or the standard Kawasaki is, which are better bikes with more HP (twins) and a more reliable company.
The Meteor is the bottom price now and therefore knocked the Him. up in price by a few hundred. It's only 21hp and sluggish at the heavy weight. Comfy though.
I rode one of the first year bikes for a couple weeks in India, it had the chain stretch out so much it needed a couple links removed, the license plate vibrated off and the centered strand broke! Not exactly high quality, but in its defense it didn't have any show stopping failures.
@@GregHuston There’s no doubt that the early Himalayans had issues.
I have one .It's a great machine
The NC is simply phenomenal. With gas prices being the way they are, I'm so happy to be able to swing a leg and go on a trip without being so worried about the fuel economy. It's also wonderfully smooth, comfy with a passenger and even gets compliments every now and then.
I put a down payment for mine nc750x too, I’m waiting for them to built one!!
Bought one in 15, 68mpg overall since I've owned it. Set of side cases and a top box and it's got car like carrying capacity. It's got 40k on it thus far with 0 issues.
Mine has 50k miles it, love it.
68 mpg on average for me. Saves me about 4-5$ a day on gas commuting
Great bike but uncomfortable seat
Money saving isn’t true, but stress reliving and smile inducing sure are :)
I think 300 cc to 500cc would be best for fuel mileage and daily ride. Especially highway speeds.
I bought the cbr650r last year and I ride to work daily. I kinda wish i had got the 500 for economy though
Alot of comments about this class. I agree, it's the most fuel efficient class that you can still ride on ANY high speed American road. My Baby Njnja 300 is the perfect combination of sprightly acceleration, fuel economy, corner-carving goodness, reliability and looks. They didn't even mention the best class of bikes for fuel efficiency that's still freeway capable! They could've changed the title to "Commuter bikes we like the most", and left the false "Most fuel efficient" premise out of the title.
Any of the Honda 500's would be ideal.
My girl got a Svartpilen 401 and I got the 701 last year we love them.
I think you missed 2 important points about the nc750x 1. Possibly highest fuel efficiency for size of engine. 2. Low rpm high torque making it easy to ride in town.
And very low centre of gravity makes it super easy to Lane split!
It's criminal that the CB500F/R/X didn't get a mention -- easily some of the best mile munchers with lowest running costs. Get from 70 to 90 mpg with regular fuel (300 mi tanks), lower insurance than even the 300/400 class, and the relaxed engine has good low-end power (from about 2k RPM), not to mention lots of people have over 200,000 km on them without issue. These and the NC750X (which is street, not adventure anymore) are perfect commuter bikes and happy at freeway speeds. These expensive powerful bikes cost more to run than cars, burn just as much fuel, and cost more in insurance. The mini motos are too expensive for what they are, can't go on freeways, and have relatively short engine life and service intervals.
My CB500f is my favorite bike I’ve owned. So easy to ride and the low down torque makes it more fun around town than my ZX-6R. These 500’s as well as many Hondas are kind of underrated.
In Europe a friend told me that they are paying 11 euros per gallon! I wonder how costly it’s going to get and for how long? I pay 160 monthly for my Honda500fa and pay 16 dollars to fill up after getting 250 miles per tank. For my car I paid $300 monthly plus $150 for full coverage and it has 11 gallon tank. I get 350 miles per tank …
I'm not sure how you got the idea than a CB500 is cheaper than a 300/400 class but I just ran a couple of estimates with GEICO, and the CB500F is much higher than either the Ninja 400 or Z400. I haven't tried the R3 or Mt-03, but I also imagine those will be cheaper.
The only way the CB500 will be cheaper is if you're comparing an older CB500 with s newer 300/400 class vehicle.
I also looked up the fuel economy and the range seems to be from 50-70, not 70-90. I'm sure the CB500 platform is great but don't spread false information.
@@joemann7971 Insurance for me in Ontario, Canada (which is always high) was C$700/yr for brand new CBR500R... the Ninja 400 was C$1,150/yr. When I asked why, they said it was due to the number of claims, which is higher with the Ninja. Either people are riding them more dangerously, or newer riders are choosing the N400 while people like me are choosing the Honda 500s as a second bike, thus less likely to have beginner crashes. In any case, those were the numbers for me and they kind of made sense when they explained it. In the end I chose the 500R.
As for fuel econ, my best tank was 2.6 L/100km (90.5 USMPG), worst 3.4 L/100km (69.5 USMPG), average of 3.1 L/100km (75.9 USMPG). This is on regular fuel in Ontario which has 10% ethanol blend. I don't know what else to tell you -- that's what I get. Now it depends a whole lot on how you ride. Freeway above 110 km/h and it plummets towards 3.6 L/100km. Putting around town and commuting I've even seen as low as 2.2-2.3 L/100km. These are real numbers over 15,000 km of riding (two seasons). Looking on Fuelly, all the Honda 500 variants show about 10% better fuel economy compared with the Ninja 400 and R3.
I have yet to see many other bikes that have the combination of performance, longevity, and low running costs as the 500R/F/X. I can tell you with certainty that bigger bikes like the Tracer 9 that are more expensive to buy and run shouldn't be in any list of "top 5 money saving commuter bikes" while the Honda 500s are omitted.
@@joemann7971 I don’t want to dispute any of your claims, and you’re right on with the mpg estimate, I am getting 59 mpg. But I want to mention that the quote I had with Geico was awful, way overpriced for the cb500f. Another provider had me insured very affordably.
I live my 15 Suzuki Vstrom 650. It's very versatile and does great on gas, 55-63 mpgs. I know it typically doesn't end up an any lists but I haven't gotten bored with it yet and I call that a win in my book.
Light to medium adventure bikes are great for a commute. 👍
Even though it doesn’t get much love, the Vstrom 650 is a bike I’m definitely interested in.
@@matsmith5937 I started with a '00 SV and moved up to an '02 Vstrom 1000. 60 thousand miles later, it's still my go-to.
I bought a Honda Monkey last year for fun. And it is a blast to ride, I haven't really used my Harley since I got it. Now with gas prices where they are going, I think it's going to be primary transportation for me this summer.
I would add the Royal Enfield Meteor 350 to the list... It's only $4500 and can do highway speeds
CJ Totally agree with you. I also bought a 2021 Monkey & I echo your feelings. I also have bigger bikes, but that Monkey makes it harder for me to get on them. That's unless i'm going 2 up.
@skkss I agree
Bro, right?! I got a Honda cub and it's the same thing for around town. I barely drive my Indian because of this gas economy
The Monkey reminds me of my youth.
The SSR 250cc V-Twin Buccaneer, needs to be mentioned.
V-Strom 650. Cheap. Reliable, faster than most cars and hauls a bunch of crap. Does wheelies and gets 45-70 mpg with a 5.5 gallon tank. Runs on 87 gas. Effortlessly handles highway speeds. You can stand up on it too.
For small people like me, the SV 650. Same great motor and fast enough to feel comfortable on the german Autobahn.
Actually the answer could also be “Any used Honda motorcycle under that runs under $2k private party” lol. You can get Honda Shadows for $1500-2000.
A lot of guys buy Shadows fin decent shape for like $500. (IDK how they find them, but they do)
The Honda NC750X is hands down the ultimate commuter bike
I would consider the Yamaha 700 Tracer, and the Honda 750 TransAlp.
My experience with a liter bike is that it's not great on the fuel. Mine is about 10 years old, so your mileage will vary.
Also, even though it's more fun, I also tend to need new tires every year because my bike chews up tires (even dual compound tires)
My thought is that riding a motorcycle is a reward in and of itself. Some bikes might be more or less economical, but they are all fun.
I like how i can fit 4 motorcycles in my single car parking spot. 😋
My FZ-1 gets about 42mpg, but it’s 87 octane, which amazes me that a bike with almost 150hp can run on cheap gas.
CBR500R/X/F is hard to beat as one of the best commuter bikes.
I totally agree with your choice of the Honda NC750X. A little difficult to get one right now, but I will definitely put one in my garage for commuting.
Being in CO a commuter I would lean towards would be a dual purpose bike like CRF300L.
If u can find one, they are hot sellers.
Used to have a z650 and it got something like 50 or 60 mpg. It was plenty quick and the mileage was awesome. But I sold it for a z900. I can say I definitely am not saving any money with a motorcycle but that’s ok. Smiles per gallon.
I'm sure you're getting at least 35 or so MPG. You're still getting the performance of a gas guzzler with the fuel economy of a small sedan. That's still not bad.
@@joemann7971 exactly right! Definitely no complaints from me.
I'm with Southerndeth below. You guys went off the rails. Spending 8 to 15k is hardly saving any money. And I think there are few of us that really want to commute on a Navi. My picks are XT250, KLX300, TU250 (if you can even get your hands on one) and CRF300. Rallye version of you need the extra styling. And, can't forget the Himalayan. Affordable out the door, hellishly good mileage for each one, low insurance costs as well.
Yeah the list is more of a "Here are some random motorcycles that are being sold new." It gets into Zero price range with no mention of electrics at any price. If it's really a Top 5 money saving commuter bikes, they should either not cost so much to buy, or make up for it by removing fuel and engine maintenance costs. A $15k bike (Tracer) that doesn't get phenomenal mileage really has no place on a money-saving list.
I love the look of the TU250, but the rest of those all look like dirt bikes and most people over 20 don’t want to be seen riding one on public roads
I have a 2016 Suzuki TU250X. I’ll never get rid of it. I can ride it all day and not feel fatigued and I look cool riding 😎
@@Cologne_Trooper Awesome little bike! I'd love to pick one up, but they're darned hard to find!
I commute on a Kawasaki Z900, I get close to 50MPG when driving easy. I like to have something a little more powerful than a 300-500cc because my commute includes highway and mountain roads. Bottom line is you have to find what fits your commute but there is nothing better than commuting on a bike, splitting lanes through thick traffic on my way home is the best feeling in the world. I wish more people would choose a motorcycle as their preferred method of commuting to cut down on overall congestion.
Great video and info on the topic. I use my bikes as primary year round transportation just for reference to my opinion. Have done so on the Yamaha FZ6 from 2007 until I got my Kymco Spade in 2021. I still have and love the FZ6 and had other small two wheelers along the way.
If someone asks me about getting a motorcycle mainly for the gas savings, I will usually refer them to a 150cc scooter first (250 to 400cc if interstate is involved). They are cheap (to maintain) and convenient. Cost of consumable parts and maintenance can eat away gas savings fast on a bigger (nicer) motorcycle over an economy car. The answer is the bike you have or a scooter if you already have a bike.
This is just for those who's soul purpose is to save money.
Agreed. I've had many different bikes throughout the years and the one I miss the most is my virago 250. 80+ mph and 80 (rated) mpg.
I'm a proud owner of a bone stock 2010 Aprilia Mana 850 and imo its an outstandingly practical commuter bike - super duper fuel efficient and so practical. Jay leno's got the naked, whereas mine's the GT with the panniers and looks so damn good with the panniers on. Done around 15,000 kms on it over 3 years so far. Cant be happier. 😇
Scooters should make this list.. PCX, XMAX, etc.. way more storage and twist and go .
could not agree more. id say the pcx is better than the mini motos. cvt make it easy to ride and that storage is what i want in a commuter plus 50cc larger engine
The MT03 is a great commuter/ beginner bike. It’s cheap and a blast to ride, even at a lower displacement. I enjoy mine very much.
If you like squished legs.
@@joecamel6835 I’m 6’3 and have no issue with leg space. Unless you ride with your heels on the peg (which you shouldn’t) you won’t have an issue with leg room
I would not consider any of these to commute on; looking for one now, that is more capable than my BMW C650 Sport. A grom on the 405 California highway?
My DR-Z 400 is going to start pulling double duty as a commuter as soon as its warm enough. Spending 8 to 10 grand on a bike just to commute does not make much sense. You would be riding that thing for years and for thousands of miles before you started to recoup any gas costs you were trying to offset.
If you don’t start…..In Europe a friend told me that they are paying 11 euros per gallon! I wonder how costly it’s going to get and for how long? I pay 160 monthly for my Honda500fa and pay 16 dollars to fill up after getting 250 miles per tank. For my car I paid $300 monthly plus $150 for full coverage and it has 11 gallon tank. I get 350 miles per tank …
In Canada we are at or close to $2/l or over $7 a gallon. Driving my DRZ 400 which gets 50mpg vs my F150 which gets like 15 will add up quick. Costs my like $15 to drive to work and back in the truck vs like $4 on the bike.
I started on a 650 Suzuki Savage. Single cylinder low weight low center of gravity low horses (sigh) but great starter bike. Had no problem taking it in Canada 500KM north to camp a week throwing a duffel bag on back and wearing a backpack that gave me combined a soft comfortable back rest. My GF rode one across Canada 5000 Km. So a starter bike with girl friendly weight you can comfortably ride all day on and enjoy and will get you where you want to go... even if it's 5000Km away. Oh and it's belt drive. Really beginner friendly.
There are so many factors to consider. If you want a motorcycle because you want a motorcycle, get one. If you are thinking about a motorcycle to save money you need to look at all the costs to buy, maintain, insure, plus the purchase of gear etc.
If you are considering a mini-moto to ride to work you probably aren't commuting far with your car. Might as well buy a bicycle.
My neighbor rode 100 miles round trip year round for 180,000 miles. He switched to a used Corolla and spends way less money overall.
FortNine did an excellent segment on buying a motorcycle to save transportation costs. Rarely does it break even when you own an otherwise working car. If you love riding bikes, I'd say that's reason enough.
I disagree with your water cooled requirement (and apparently you do, too). That would exclude some really fun and affordable bikes, including the Honda mini-motos (Navi, Monkey, Grom, Super Cub) which somehow got on your list anyway…?
125's produce so little power that the heat output is negligible.
My two cents: I road twenty years, about three seasons a year on commuter bikes. first one a BMW F650, about 50 MPG, had a windscreen and a 400 W alternator so I could power heated grips and vests. Second one was a BMW F800 ST with similar specs, 50 MPG, 400 W alternator, aftermarket windscreen. You say, "Oh BMWs are expensive." Well, I got mine as model end close outs. Saved a bunch. I had either hard or soft luggage, at times, to carry tools and service parts for my job. I had to get on roads where traffic was 70-80 MPH and ruthless so smaller bikes were not practical. I got caught in rain and cold. Aerostich, heated grips, and windscreen were all a Godsend. Get a helmet with anti-fog lens. Another thing: get a Scott Oiler or similar. You ride five days a week and somedays, when you get home wet, cold, and tired, you just want to hit the shower and not oil your chain.
Worst commuter is my old VTX1800. Granted, I acquired it whenever fuel wasn't much of an issue. It is still currently my best choice though as it is more fuel efficient than either of my other vehicles. 33 mpg in ideal conditions with a stiff breeze on your back, but man is it fun.
if it's just about getting somewhere, the 'sport' 125s are surprisingly not *that* bad
Been commuting on a Monkey and it is perfect for me. Then again it’s only 6 miles and 45 mph limit tops.
The Honda Cub is the way to go. It has wind protection, big wheels, built in storage and great mileage. You don't see them in the states so much, but everywhere else they are literally the best and only answer to this question. I like the trail of course, but the cub is the goat.
188 mpg, more green than those electric machines.
I agree if you don't commute on the freeway. Honda should put the heel-toe shifter and enclosed chain on more bikes.
Road Glide Limited - great commuter. 40-44 mpg. plenty of space. And if you buy it new lifetime tires(I go through 1.5 a year) and option to get free maintenance (I do ~15k miles a year on conservative side) definitely take a bright spot.
You missed a segment of scooters that most people are unaware of, the three wheelers. I worked with a lady that one would NEVER suspect of riding a scooter, she commuted on a Piaggio. For people that might be afraid of two wheels, the three wheelers maybe just the ride.
Personally, I’m thinking about a Monkey. Thanks for the reviews.
I have been really impressed with my 2021 KTM Duke 390 as a commuter. I bought it just to get out and have fun with, but with fuel prices what they are I'm now commuting on it to work whenever I can. I consistently get over 68 MPG and recently reset the trip meter after a fill-up and decided to stay off the throttle and MPG has jumped up to 76 with just a little effort towards getting good mileage instead of playing with the acceleration. 0 to 60 is around 5.5 seconds so it is faster than all but the fastest cars with plenty of power to get out of trouble. Comfortable upright riding position, terrific handling and it has been 100% reliable. It's not perfect, the light weight that makes it great in corners makes it less stable on the highway and it has zero built-in storage but most bikes that do better in that area don't get the good mileage a lighter bike will either. I'm an average size guy so it fits me fine but if you're a huge individual definitely go sit on one to see how it fits your frame. I typically think of mini motos and scooters when 70+ MPG is considered but with this you get the best of both worlds with great mileage and a real motorcycle that is a ball to ride.
That's a bike and interesting. How much do you pay for yours? Here in SoCal I was quoted for a 2022 at $7,200 OTD. I'm aiming at a husqvarna svartpilen but there are none in my area.
@@davidzavala337 I just bought a 2022 Vitpilen in MA for 6700 OTD. I wanted the Svart but there was only one within 4 hours, in NJ for 8200 OTD.
There was a Duke for 6900 an hour away, but I personally like the look of the Huskys more.
If you can find either of the huskies, there's very minor differences between the two and either can be converted to the other pretty easily.
@@davidzavala337 I lucked out and found mine used just a few months old and still within the 600 mile break in period. It's pretty rare to find them on the used market because of their popularity but if you can obviously you will save on the dealer prep and whatever ridiculous markup they are charging. Mine has been great, over 3200 miles now and it still looks brand new.
Because of your video I ordered a Kawasaki z 400. Will be in April. Cheap on gas & insurance. Thanks for the update. 68 yrs old yooper Dan
Curious as you mentioned couple of Honda cbr models in the video as to what you think on the cb300r, price wise can get them for 3/4 k over here on 2019 plates, it does motorway miles as I can atest to being as I used one regularly to get to work which is 90 mile round trip each day, fuel wise erm that depends on how heavy handed you are with the throttle tbf it is bit thirstier than some of my other bikes but not terrible imo
I daily a CRF300L. 72MPG. I dont ride it on the freeway but where i live its very easy to commute taking side roads with comparable time to arrival as taking the freeway.
I began riding in 1965 on a Ward's Riverside 125. Our family includes a Grom and a Navi for extreme MPG savings! Mid-size bikes are next in economy. My 250cc Venox can be baby'd to 70mpg but hi speeds drop it to 50mpg.
200cc to 250cc scooters and scrambler style bikes with bags ought to be great economically. Do you have experience in that range of bikes?
Second week commuting on my new trail 125. It's been so practical and fun.
Don't you just wish they'd sell an identical trail 125 except with the rebel 300 engine crammed into that sucker?
If fuel savings is your goal, the NC750 and Z/Ninja 400 (or 650) make a lot of sense. Everything else is either too small to want to ride every day or not very efficient. The Tracer 9, MT-09/XSR900 and Street Scrambler are going to be in the mid-40s mpg. You're just as well off with a Civic.
Hear me out, we beg Honda to make the next gen Grom like the new rebel and you can buy it with a 125 or with the lowest rebel engine, the 300. Then that sucker could go on the interstate across the country at 85 if you wanted. I think they should put belt drive on the 300 version for easier maintenance tbh. I hate chains and I never want to clean one If I don't have to. But I'll adjust a belt once in a while. A belt on the 125 wouldn't be worth it because it would reduce power to the wheel too much. But a 300 engine crammed in there with a belt might be a whole different story
I currently have an MT-07 for my commuter. I truly love this bike, so much so that i'm considering an upgrade to the MT-09 but I am torn on whether I want to part with my MT-07. It great fuel economy at around 60mpg (it's even rated better than the MT-03), sounds awesome with the Akra carbon exhaust, and has all the power you need for highway riding. I'll likely trade it for an MT-09 this weekend, but I definitely plan on getting an XSR700 down the road. The worst commuter biked I owned was a Ninja ZX-10R. That's pretty much self explanatory.
My choice is just a tadd crazy I commute on a Yamaha VMX 1200 1988 or the 1700cc 2015 V-Max and on wet and windy my Yamaha TT350 Enduro
Sounds good to me. I have a 1670 cc MT-01.
I've gotten 80+ mpg on a Suzuki LS650 when I stayed 55mph and under on a day ride. There was no Interstate riding.
I’m in the process of buying a Tiger 1200 Rally Explorer. I’m excited. Can’t wait to commute on it and travel.
With all the bikes your guys are playing with, I’d like to see your impression of one of the oldest school designs they still make new… the yamaha tw200. See how that stacks up to some of these other commuter dual purpose bikes.
How about something even older design that most of the rest of the world rides, the pushrod Honda CG engined based Lifan 230 cc dualsport?
Yes. Add the XT250 as well.
I commute mostly using my fzi150. 46km/L with a 12L tank. Built like a tank and gets me anywhere while i have my ninja 400 for squiding. Good mileage as well and has speed when i need it. Both bikes never hurts my back.
And yeah your list should have stopped at the 400-500cc because the main point here is mileage.
Further vouch on the 390 Duke. Sips fuel, robust, comfy, and absolutely playful, especially in corners. Love mine. Will say out of all these the NC700/750x are definitely the ultimate commuter machines.
I have a Honda Navi as my daily commuter . Plan secondary routes and it’s fine . Mpg is under 80 though so 56-60 reserve kicks in .
I have a CB300R aka the big Grom. Had a FZ09, sold it, too much for my needs.
Does everything well, doesn't look bad also
I have been thinking of getting one of these. How well does it do at 65mph rpm-wise?
@@Juleye About 7,000/7,500rpm from memory. I do 230km with a full tank of 10 litters
Y’all forgot the 155 mpg of the grom lol. What’s amazing is how easy it is to achieve just by normal riding
My Grom gets 100 mpg. You got a really good deal.
@@jbean530 I don’t know what year you have but the new 2022- has a new engine that’s more efficient👍🏼
Had a 2017 ninja 300. Best bike ever. Did 110mph wasn't huntched over like other sport bikes. Took turns easy flipping it back and fourth because it was so light, 60mpg if you cruised on it right. $4k cash new off show room floor. Wish I never sold it. Guy bought it and turned it into a endurance race bike lol. Pretty cool.
Completely skipped the cruiser segment. Lots of good and cheap ones that are liquid cooled versatile and comfortable, mor comfortable than naked for sure. I think these guys have their sponsors and their bases they’re playing to and aren’t all around motorcycle enthusiasts.
What's the best beginner (easy to grow into so maybe 500cc and up?) bike that is great for commuting but you can still go for long rides and maybe abit of adventure (light greenlaning) if you wanted?
I bought my first bike because it gets over 100mpg. I’m glad I did because it is a very enjoyable experience to ride a motorcycle.
I'm really surprised you left out one, I just bought a new Honda PCX 160. 98MPG top speed 85+MPH price is less than 5grand. 4 valve liquid cooled. huge amounts of storage.
KLR 650. 55 mpg. Inexpensive and low maintenance. I had one and miss it.
Then I nominate the KLR250. Love mine and there’s no electric starter to break! JK 😎
If you are looking to save fuel you have to go with low deplacement bikes.
I commute with a 21 Honda Grom. I might step up to a crf 300 or the husky svartpilen 401 due to lak of speed on the Grom.
My second bike is a BMW S1000XR, but its not very fuel efficent compared with the Grom.
Hi, thank you for the video...why did you not cover the Honda 250 or 300 Rally bike?
If you live in the urban parts of California the best reason to commute on a motorcycle is that you can split lanes on the highways as well as ride in the high occupancy commuter lanes where they are available. Being able to slip through dense traffic that has stalled cars and trucks is like having a super power. Once you get the hang of lane splitting you'll realize that it's actually much safer than poking along like the 4 wheel vehicles are forced to do. Lane splitting should be made legal in all 50 states and territories. Sometimes the best ideas do come from the west.
How do you feel about Benelli TNT 135 as a fuel efficient, practical bike? It has a $3k+ price point.
That was my first bike. Just sold it last year. It’s not terrible. I didn’t daily it but I did rip around on it on weekends. Just be mindful of the speed limits on your commute.
I like the TNT. Just be mindful of part supply. I use a Kymco Spade 150 and love it. Getting parts for it is a challenge currently. It's been super reliable, but things wear out with use no matter how good the brand is. Kymco is a well known big brand around the world, but support in America is not great these days and dealers are limited. I order consumables early and it took months to get rear brake shoes from our local dealer.
Just a FYI when considering lesser known brands.
I recently bought a Genuine Scooter Company, Buddy 170i - got it used for $1000, get's 80+ mpg and will get me up to 65 mph and I am 220 lbs.
You will pay more for tires than you will ever save on gas.
This is criminally underrated. You have to be driving something awfully thirsty to have a motorcycle actually save you money as a commuter.
I disagree. I've been commuting on my CBF for a few years now. I estimate I've saved money on the upfront cost of the bike Vs driving my car (I have a basic, fuel efficient hatchback), including maintenance. I've also saved time because I can filter through traffic. Fuel here in the UK is frighteningly expensive, so savings really do add up quickly.
The mt/fz07 is great for commuting same motor as the xsr700 but cheaper new ones are around $7,500 new with abs older ones are cheaper but without abs.
I am weighing getting a versys 300 for commuting during warmer months. I travel 141 miles 3 days a week. my feista gets 45mpg but the versys gets 80.
You guys are doing some brilliant work in this channel. But remember, that what you’d end up saving in fuel costs you’d pretty much end up spending in tires; motorcycle tires don’t last too long. For my 10.5 mile commute here in western NC I ride a 2019 XT250 and a 2020 R3. They’re extremely reliable and best of all CHEAP to own. $55 monthly full cover insurance for both bikes 😎🔥
TFL math at work. I’ll fully agree with the list if you’re given the motorcycle but you leave out the purchase part.
You can always buy it used.
@@MotoLopez1k still cost money to buy new or used. Think about how much gas you can buy with $1000-$2000. Buying something to save doesn't even make sense in most cases.
@@jcsuperstars1100 it does! It saves fuel use for the same travel! 😝
Finally a video that nails what I was looking for. Looking to get a bike this month solely because gas prices are out of control. Okay and I need something a bit more reliable than my older bimmer 😂
No mention of how expensive tires and valve checks are. These definitely add up and on a small bike can cost even more than fuel all year.
I agree. You can make motorcycles an economic transportation option, but these details are often missing from the conversation. Hard to save money when comparing purchasing a bike over using what you already have or a higher end motorcycle to a economy car.
I do my own valve checks and adjustments, and know how to change my own tires, which cost a little under $50 each.
Honda cbr500 range?
This lost its way... you should be looking at the highest mpg bikes...
An MT09 doesn't nit have good fuel efficiency
I don’t know if it’s the best commuter but I’ve been riding the 2019 Suzuki vstrom 650 for the last 3 years and it’s been a really good all rounder and get 460ks out of a 20 litre tank 70 horsepower which isn’t a lot but enough to still have fun in the twistys good for taking the misses out on the weekends and can take it on a few off-road trails to I’ve put a givi 47 litre top box on it and a akrapovic exhaust and racked up nearly 40000ks on it
These guys just described a scooter.
I agree with most people here that this vid missed the mark in a big way. Your showing bikes to guys that are damn near the price of a brand new Basic Kia. This is so off the mark. The Navi yes, but if we are talking budget commuter bike you shouldn’t be showing anything over $6K. Grom, Monkey, Z125, CB300 up to something like a KLR650 at most. These are bikes that guys can ride on a budget. When you start talking about Yamaha 9GT,,,,come on. You put $15k, tax, doc, license….your 17K. By the time you pay that off your $22K into it. Not even close to “budget”. You might wanna do a follow up vid “Real budget bikes, not pipe dreams”. Your mileage may very. Peace.
Some of the bikes you guys mentioned are way too pricey for just commuter. For just commuting, I like the honda Rebel 500 for freeway commute and the 300cc for city. The Husqvarna Svartpilen is one of the best deals out there. Remember 300cc are freeway capable, but at at the limit with no more power, but 400 to 500cc have that extra poke for freeway commute. If you want more, then you want a toy, which is fine, whoe doesn't like speed, but for someone in a budget and for commute a bike needs to be less than $7 or $5 from city commute.
Good suggestive video, however, I miss the actual gas mileage! Except for the first couple of mini-motos, you did not mentions actual gas consumption. I've had few bikes and always watch gas mileage.. But as my '98 CBR1100XX used to get about 33-36 around city, it would easily climb up to 47-50 on the highway... Now, saddling 2021 CB100R - i am half highway and half side street (40 miles daily, I average 38, and don't seem to get it better.. My previous bike 2017 FXDLS with a 110 CI Screaming Eagle would run about 39 miles on a gallon, and that was all side/city streets! And yes, I am looking for my next ride.. Cheers and keep it rubber down!!
100cc are the best and worst. Best for sipping fuel and low maintenance. Worst for being slow
Why have you got such bad reverb when you have walls of sound absorption and specific microphones for the job? Maybe you have the wrong polar pattern setting or something?
I live in california and have a z400. Amazing around town bike. I live in a small coastal town and there is no speed limit above 55 in any direction for atleast 45 minutes so typically it has all the power I need. I ride it pretty hard though and average 51 mpg. I did ride it on a 3 hour trip with a lot of freeway recently. It starts suffering a bit after 70mph and cruising at 80mph had my hands buzzing pretty hard from vibration. As a city commuter bike I am in love. For long trips I want something more.
Could you do a list like this but for commuter freeway capable scooters?
Check out maxi scooters for that. You could check out the Suzuki Burgman, though check the engine size, since they can be as small as 125 up to 600 cc. They have a 400 cc that goes up to around 90 MPH, which should be OK for highway use. You also have the BMW C400X, and the Yamaha XMax, just to name a few. I do believe all those are 400 cc scooters.
How can there be an echo with all the acoustic foam?
Low displacement dual sports. TW200 is my pick if I don't need to go on the highway.
I agree on the 700cc class bike; light simple bike and enough power for this altitude (I work about 2 mins from TFL HQ). I mostly ride an R12GS and the big Sport & ADV tourers make good practical commuters but the economics just aren't there with the high cost of entry, costly maintenance and not the best MPGs (40 on the R12GS). I secretly want one of those Trail 125s, I see you ended in Lyons, but you should've ventured up to Estes to see who it could handle the steep grade.
I live in Los Angeles and the thing I'm mostly worried about is getting rear ended or side swap in a lane merge cuz people look at their phone more than the road and drive super fast and jump on the breaks when they have to instead of driving properly
What, no dual sport bikes on the list? I ride a DR-650 which can be converted to a supermoto. Nothing can match it in heavy traffic and is a blast to ride. Great riding position, lots of torque and you can stand up on the pegs giving you a clear view over cars. Very little maintenance and if you lay it down there is a good chance you won't damage it being a dirt bike with blinkers.
Maybe not the best but I love commuting on my Africa Twin.
I loved commuting on my Honda CB500X.
I think I wanna move on the Honda NT1100 next.
It is a good show. Thank you
I wish you would have done this with a $7k ceiling, and include used bikes. I've commuted on everything from a Honda C110 to a V-strom 1000, and the choices are almost endless, particularly now with a generation of used fuel injected bikes. Taking in the range, we're talking about everything from a brand new Monkey OR a used DL1000 for the same amount of money. Crazy times for motorcycle enthusiasts. Thanks for carrying the torch.
Used to call my XT225 / XT250 my moped. Got 75-85+ mpg to and from work and took the fun way home!
The champion of commonly manufactured bikes was IMO the Honda Super Cub from the 60s. Could get like 240mpg(!!!)., They were super reliable and could last VERY long if maintained decently. Could be driven while carrying WAY more than most motorcycles because of the underbone design (can carry a bag there, or quite large objects) and the rear platform, and because you can ride without using your left hand (no clutch since semi-auto transmission)
If your gonna buy a motorcycle to save on fuel cost dont forget to factor in tires because motorcycle tires dont last anywhere close to as long as car tires. Also winter months and rain days you wont be going too far on a bike.
Fine by me because I live in a desert. Their is almost no rain days. Only cold or hot days. Tires aren't as bad as you would think. Especially if you get a smaller bike like a Grom or some kind of 250-300. They're affordable enough that one set a season isn't the end of the world. The gas savings helps pay for it. Plus their is already lots of savings by not buying a new 20k+ car
Are wide handlebars really better in tight places?
I have been looking for a supercub, a trail 125, and a Navi. You can't buy them anywhere near what they are asking, they have about $2k mark-ups if you can even find them. So $6k for a Honda trail 125
Plenty speed as it is always the journey… not destination. Speed cannot enjoy surroundings, relaxing therapy after hectic work day.
versys 300, cold operating, 100mph, 60mpg, upright, windscreen, slipper clutch, abs, what more do you want.
Cb300r. It's only a bit more than the Monkey/Trail and you get twice the horse-power and if you are easy on the accel, can be pretty damn fuel efficient.. like 90+mpg. I went out for a ride with a buddy of mine (on a z900) and we both came back on half tanks... he had to spend a lot of time at the speed limit to let me catch up and I was wringing it on the cb... and I still did 70mpg.
Honda CB300R is the ideal commuter because good MPG and narrow, short wheel base, high forks so good for filtering through traffic in cities.
Honda CB300R is like a grown up Honda Grom.
I like cruisers, but did discover when commuting and trying to illegally park in the city to avoid expensive parking garages, the sports bikes were shorter so could fit in tiny spots that my cruiser couldn't. (almost bought a sports/naked bike just to commute on.)