The Most Famous Unsolved Ciphers
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ย. 2024
- In this video, explore the fascinating history of ciphers, from ancient Greek military communication to modern-day cryptography. Discover unsolved cases like Kryptos at CIA HQ, the Zodiac Killer ciphers, and the mysterious Dorabella Cipher. Plus, learn about the embarrassing unsolved D'Agapeyeff cipher.
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1:02 kryptos
3:46 zodiac killer ciphers
6:55 the dorabella cipher
9:41 d'agapeyeff cipher
13:17 rhe voynich manuscript
The Zodiac ciphers are simply solved with Google translator. But hes been found. Erik and I found him. And an entire town in Holland, called Hassem. Zodiac is from Holland, and his name is very common in Holland. Their town became snowed in one winter and the only movie showing was stuck and no movies could be delievered. It was a Zodiac movie, so everyone got outraged there could be one of their own serial killing in america. And yes, Zodiac was from Holland. There are clusters of people in Europe working on American mysteries. He was found for them - yearbook - for me - uncles pulps match to murders and uncle has same middle as last name, then I found a male relative in ancestry that would be about the same age as Z. Then this name was the name of the person clear at the bottom of the comic Lady of Doom reissue 55. I was one of two civilians working on the Fl cases, Then his name just happened to match the name we found in Z340 and Z408. It was not in Z13, A phrase was there.
Here is the letter from the Zodiac task force sergeant in FL., He killled there. see last line. (I removed it, had sensitive information) From his name in Z340 and Z408 (those were solved 3 years ago) we got his name and then focused our research on him only. It was him. Well they are not saying at this time, but I heard it will be this year. The public can take heart in knowing the satisfaction, he was found when still alive, and he got really mad and he died knowing F**K I AM NOT CRACKPROOF !!! lol (he lived in Perris since 85) The ciphers were just language translations, you solve them, you see his name staring at you in English. We finally found him Guys. SFPD, SFFBI, FLPD, Crypto Assn, DoJ - all know and have known. He had been living like a hermit chameleon since 85 in Perris. (Z13 says Glasses male me)
I’ve always figured the zodiac killer was trolling with the ciphers. Given them a few that have a solution and then after that just give them gibberish.
The whole profile makes the zodiac seem fitting into the stereotypical "highly intelligent sociopath serial killer who taunts the police". The type that treats it like a game to stay ahead, daring the police to catch them. Giving the cops something completely useless would be under their niveau.
Indeed! @@HappyBeezerStudios
Who knows but certainly not the most likely.
The killer (if it's him writing those) wouldn't feel very smart if the police couldn't decipher something that has no solution to start with. He'd feel very smart though if there is a solution and the police are none the wiser.
They all have meaning. Except for Z13 Z32 and the map.
The "gibberish" said "something is hidden" when translated like you should. Its his name. Now his name is solved differently than the so called ciphers. We now have his name.
In regards to the d'agapeyeff cipher it is sort of the proof of something I have often said, the way to throw off decryption is to use a language no one knows easily or has not thought to program into a computer (especially a dead language or an invented one). The bigger the alphabet that exists for the initial language the harder it is figure out.
That's why some ancient languages have not had their surviving texts decoded for a very long time. So much of what was written in Cuneiform (in languages of Sumerian, Akkadian, Eblaite, Elamite, Hittite, Hurrian, Luwian, Urartian, Palaic, Aramaic, Old Persian) but that you won't find too many modern translators able to take things written in such and work with them in a cryptographic manner if they are converted to modern numeric style forms.
I think you're one of Simon's Big Brain Club members. 🧠 Super interesting! I never think of how many dead languages there are in history.
So if I translate it into Sindarin first then encrypt that it might slow down attempts to decipher it?
Makes sense.
That reminds me of the code talkers, native americans that translated into english into their languages, that transmitted, and translated back on the other end. Only someone fluent enough in both sides would be able to do the quite informal translation. And there aren't many speakers of native american languages in europe or east asia, neither now, nor in the early-mid 20th century.
YOU ARE RIGHT YOU ARE RIGHT YOU ARE RIGHT Joesph Teller Sometimes though Joseph you have to translate to the original language which will be arabic squiggles and then translate to English, but yes, you do every one with google translator, see above. I showed you an example, it doesnt get any easier, those WERE CIPHERS. Zodiac says, and many just believe it, no they are obscere languages. NO ONE will believe what they really are, Thats ok I got his name. And if you dont want to do them. all you do is send to an arabic translation company It will take you about an hour to do them all.
@@Dexy83 He is absolutely right on this.
The simple ones are a wonderful teaching game for kids treasure hunts.
From the simple Caesar cipher to scytale transposition. Or for something more elaborate a book cipher.
I DID THAT !!! All they needed to do is drag drop enter. My grandkids solved the small ones.
Funny enough for Zodiac's Z13 cypher if you use the key from the 408 cipher it says Weed Shrewh, which is interesting in that you wouldn't expect the key from one cipher to produce anything close to actual words in a cipher with a different key. And yet, Weed Shrew h, two actual words. Granted together they make no sense and don't seem to be any sort of clue, plus the h at the end. And the Z32 has an omega in it, which is used in physics for ohms, and thus used by electrical engineers as well. And a few of Zodiac's symbols are used in Boolean algebra, which is what electrical engineers use to design logic circuits. Seems Zodiac left clues, within his clues, about who he is.
And he had a license for electrical engineering work and solar panel installation. Yes, he would have to work with electrical circuit panels, we jut got solar and that is what they did. Not ciphers , so no keys.
Z13 - 1st iteration I am telling you (there are 3) Glasses male me and z32 says Solar enkman (solar panel) and emperor of japan. I found his name in Z340 and Z408, from that, got his address, from address - what is popping up is a yelllow page ad for solar with his name right on it as the owner. The most clues EVER is in Z340
Typing this without doing a deep dive, but has anyone considered that parts of the Voynich manuscript were written in either right to left and/or mirror script? 13:42 definitely looks like the author wrote left-handed like Da Vinci.
Probably still encrypted backwards, but just adding food for thought.
For Z13 if you use the same key as z340 and the letter "D" for the symbol that doesn't appear in z340 you get DREADADOLEDO, which could be "Dread-a-doodle-doo" with the double letters changed to single ones to prevent a vulnerability in the cipher. Given its using a known key with only one symbol guessed, I think thats what the message probably said and he was just "needling police" again. But as Simon said, with such a short message it's basically impossible to prove any answer is correct.
@@cotati76 Definitely, I"m already subscribed to David and his video on cracking z340 was very interesting.
@@crackedmagnet I remember when I got the notification in TH-cam that he had put out a new video which ended up being the Z340 solved video. It was exciting to be one of the first people to see the cipher as I’m sure you were as well. I’d bet the family of the zodiac know what he did but they don’t want their families name dragged through the mud. I don’t think I would say anything. I wouldn’t want to forever be associated with a psychopath. I’m going to go back and rewatch the video now.
@@cotati76 especially if he’s already dead? No good would come from it (for the family of the killer or the victims, I mean).
@@Thor-Orion definitely. It would be terrible to have my family name associated with a serial killer.
Yes, I willingly will let you think you are right. Enjoy 😉
Was hoping the Codex Seraphinianus would make an appearance…
I have a funny theory for the Voynich manuscript, that it's a 'Teenage Alien's school diary from a trip to another planet & they lost this diary on their trip here to Earth'. It's just fun thinking coz none of the plants look like their from Earth...Thanks for another interesting video Simon & co.
From an age that would get you burned at the stake for even alluding to other planets or aliens. - WE are catholics and we're the center of everything God damnit!
Did anyone solve the cipher hidden in the glass door behind Simon yet?
The big chrome buttons must be a clue are they "A1" & "S"? I keep hitting the "enhance" button but I just can't be sure.
I think there are hints on the bookshelf too - 3 cactus(?) decorations, an aloe plant(?), a black globe (something to do with WW3 perhaps??), 6 stacked books with 1 slanted book on 1 shelf and 2 or 3 one shelf down with a coffee mug that obviously has a clue on it. I really hope I have helped crack Simon's code! Good Luck!
and where did Simon hurt you as a child?
@@jonathanhill6064 In the brain 🙃
This is a message from Simon's cleaner who he extends their leash one a fortnight, otherwise is locked in a 5 foot by 2 foot by 3 foot room ( guess which is the height measurement ).
Know how you solve these? Put them on a poster in every high school math class in the world, eventually some kid will be bored and trying to ignore the teacher while they unlock the ciphers.
Also the Beale Ciphers should have been on here...
The cypher said " I can't remember how to decode this ", as he said.
Now, the question is how do you get this message out of that cypher.
The Beale Ciphers weren't included. Perhaps they have their own video on Simon's 'Decoding trhe Unknown' channel.
I’m pretty sure he does.
I wonder with Zodiac if he did use the 340 cipher again with either z13 or z32 because nobody had figured it out and if he actually could make anything harder than 340 in the first place. Or its gibberish just to mess with people. I would try it on z32 rather than z13.
Umm, I actually did - the secret is that these other languages, you just solve them with google translator. Z32 says Solar, Enkman, Emperor of Japan. Name not in Z13. It was in Z340 and Z408 only. Its not gibberish, even word called gibberish is not. Z340 was just like the others to solve, but yet a diff language than the others (Tamil) It is not hard at all. Z340 is too long.
Thumbs up for the Ovaltine Christmas Story reference.
2:37 could they be all of those misspellings (iqlusion, undergruund, desparatly)?
What about the Ricky McCormick Cypher?
That one is almost impossible. Cant get it.
What the hell are those really almost inaudible beep what plays in the video in the background? I can barely hear it with my hearing is good enough to pick up faint beep that goes for like 6 seconds and then reverts back to the normal audio then a certain amount of time later it keeps beeping
Kudos on Edward Elgar, I didn't know that. ❤
So I'm curious why AI hasn't been used to try to solve some of these? Maybe it has, but when it comes to performing hyper-specific tasks, AI is king. Couldn't one be programmed with knowledge of all written languages and be trained on different kinds of cyphers that we know about?
Was just thinking this. Given that general AI can win capture the flag hacking events
Could the Dorabella cypher be a variant on the Rosicrucian cypher? Perhaps with Q and Z in the middle square. It is similar because there are 3 different symbols facing each of the 8 directions.
I myself have made , ciphers that I can no longer read :(
1:05 - Chapter 1 - Kryptos
3:50 - Chapter 2 - Zodiac killer ciphers
7:00 - Chapter 3 - The dorabella cipher
9:45 - Chapter 4 - D'agapeyeff cipher
13:20 - Chapter 5 - The voynich manuscript
There can't be many facts left.
I think it’s 007 for the first cypher.
Whenever I see this I remember the story of a mad man and mad woman in a psychiatric hospital who kept tapping and tapping and tapping to...see more
A sweet story! Glad they found happiness & happy that when they made love nobody got to...see more
The Zodiac cypher says “My name is Raphael (Ted) Cruz.”
I have forgotten my cipher code to get into my phone.
I thought for sure that Ricky McCormick was going to be on that.
Oh good Kryptos was mentioned in this
Simon is everywhere I can't escape him his in my walls help
I just want to hear you narrate a Warhammer audiobook.
what, no Beale cipher?
Um, that wanted poster for the Zodiac Killer - um, Simon, why do you have such a full beard? 🙂
Elgars cypher was most probably what he would like to do to Dorabella the dirty old sod
1:17 Ed who?
Would be interesting to learn about ciphers that have actually been solved…
All are. Zodiac ones, because they didnt turn out to be ciphers, they are all different language.
I solved them all. And that includes last 16 lines of Z340. His name has been reported to the FBI. That was found in Z340 and Z408./
i think simon can rock a top hat if he wore one
Speaking of ciphers, maybe Simon should speak a bit slower, its hard to hear sometimes, anyway, brilliant episode
Indeed.
He needs elocution training.
(Or simply to try to be more intelligible.)
His delivery can be quite annoying.
What's the video called on decoding the unknown that's considered the full version of the end of this video
The Voynich Manuscript?
I saw The Voynich Manuscript on Decoding the Unknown a while ago. Well worth it in my opinion.
Jesus the audio on this one is way higher than normal and treble seems higher than normal a bass seems squashed
Only the Lizard Overlords know. Cheers
the google owners could decifer these there it geniuses thats why everyone respects them
voynich manuscript was already solved last I knew.. an quite easily.
LOL!
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The zodiac killers cypher was broke a few years ago.
Cool
Stop disrespecting the letter Zee!
2:53 - Sanborn is definitely lying as "NYPVTT" wouldn't be BERLIN as "I" and "N" are allegedly supposed to be "T"? Same with "CLOCK" because has two "C"s yet in "MZFPK", there's only one "M". He shouldn't have given any hints, lol.
3:39 no. try to sell it profit lol. fails
I'm the 666th like?
Welp.😈😂
1/137
Simon is A.I
With regards to D'Aagapeyeff cipher, maybe we should try a simple one-to-one substitution method but using Russian letters instead. Based on this assumption and according to ChatGPT4, the solution could be: "привет как дела всё хорошо надеюсь у тебя тоже все отлично"
In English, this translates to: "Hello, how are you? Everything is good. I hope things are great for you too." Maybe this 84 years old mistery has finally been solved...;))
Poor Ed, life must really give him the Shites
Maybe that is the final lesson in the D'Agapeyeff book.....get it right or youre boned, or possibly its just gibberish and the lesson is some ciphers you wont be able to break.
Anyone else bothered with the x's and q's and iqlusion, undergruund and desparatly?
they could just all be writing gibberish, with the plan off making a bunch of egg heads waste a lot of time on trying to decipher , well gibberish !
Drink more Ovaltine 😂
Just to be an annoying, pedantic ***, I want to point out you said "incoding" instead of "encoding" 0:56 at about 50 seconds.
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This two words would be pronounced the same anyway, so no idea what you're on about.
Ninth
Wow. Really all you do is sit around and read scripts. Does your family miss you?
Does your family miss you when you go to work?
Maybe you're lucky (or unlucky) enough not to have to work.
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Too slow once again and this got 6th.
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Pls pin 📌 mine😍🥰
Why bother pinning such a stupid and pathetic non-comment like this CRAP that is of no importance or even slightly interesting to anyone.
The most likely of the Z-13 cipher solutions I've seen is: A E N + @ K @ M @ { N A M
A L F R E D E N E W M A N
It doesn't work out perfectly as N signifies both F and M but as M signifies N I think he might have made a mistake
and it does seem like the kind of thing he would come up with to taunt authorities. "What, me worry ?"
😂
Kryptos has underlayers. K0 They made it harder by taking the X's out. That's part that links it to the larger sculpture. The sections interlink in layers. The instructions people missed is in the open. Interpret at I,T. Also EEE invisable.
K1 underlayer. L words. Light Lies between subtle shading and the absence of the nuance of illusion. Keyed word illusion keyword palimpsest also instructions
K2 layer 2. Words before X's. " field location somewhere message west " X's to ?'s " Does Langley know about this? Who knows the exact location?". Words before ?'s." Possible this location. " Keyed word underground ( O,U ) Keyword abscissa also a X check and instructions. X both sides abscissa.
K3 X " mist" X to ? Can you see anything Q?" ( Q illusion referance) keyed word desperately (E,A) missing E pulls our " RAT"
K4 has a keyed word still encrypted. It has a underlayer that links with the rest. It has K to K and S to S and other clues from known cipher text to known text. Also showing a shift 1 in a few spots.
Retiring CIA officer Ed Shite? ,,,,, Shite ???
The solved "ciphers" are incorrect, and 16 lines are remaining in Z340 to still be done. His name is in both Z340, and Z408. Solve those. They are only other languages. I have handed in and got approval. THESE ARE CHECKABLE, THE OTHERS WERE NOT. Zodiac name is in Z340 and Z408. Its english. You solve like this. First letter will start in the 4 lines done.RIGHT SIDE Pick that now go out and pick another letter of the name, english, and towards the middle, It goes in random letters and windy like a snake - its random letters. When you solve in full start looking for words that fit awkwardly that is an indication one letter of name may be present. Go clear to the bottom in a windy fashion. Also to let you know do Z13 and Z32 3 times not once. First time- straight solve, 2nd you manipulate the language and solve again, it will tell you what letters to change and where. 3rd time, manipulate language again, and this gives you the final answer. Hint: XXXXXXXXz13. Your turn now. I will give an example
Tamil
ausse
5 / 5,000
honest
See: Ausse means honest Gyke is not the name of a polish guy, try it. They did 4 lines only on TV, Left remaining 16 lines, its not more of the same, this is where all the clues about Zodiac IS. To get the name, In Z340 he has last name, Z408 has full name, Missed by oranchak and hardens. Gave it to Law enforcement. Your first letter will be in the 4 lines "solved" Now pick that letter go to the next letter, all the rest of the letters go out to the center and it is presented in a windy manner, like a snake winds around randomly ? In Z408, you have one name to a section, solve the same way as Z340 but this time you will have first name in first section, middle ---- last ----- Times must be first. TV cryptos have now been told how to solve. Each translation will be a different language.
The sheer number of videos a week Simon puts out always amazes me
Cos hes your boy with the Blaze
Yeah 7 a week :O
He's posting a lot of stuff that has been posted before. He watch 2 or 3 vids on one subject and make it one vid. When you copy stuff done you can produce way more than people who have to create everything.
There's teams behind the channels
The power of the good ole❄️
"Be sure to drink your Ovaltine..." 😂😂😂😂
Loved that reference. Wonder if Simon caught it
Unsolved Ciphers on Sideprojects?
Should be on Decoding the Unknown 😅 - Unravel so many enigmas!
Pretty much
Sadly the 'Kryptos' cipher, once understood only revealed some mediocre low-fat chicken recipes.
Ha, ha, ha., They solved 4 lines 3 error 1 missed word they did 4 lines instead of 20 that are there.
You could solve them. Very easily. They arent ciphers. No way does it take 7 seasons to solve, all of them can be solved in an hour.
If anyone thinks it's
impossible to forget the cipher, just ask yourself if you ever forgot your password.
If the Zodiac ciphers have errors, I think they're intentional. What greater way to get one over on those investigating is there? Zodiac is still thumbing his nose to the police.
I would simply to throw off patterns. I'd also layer the same errors so they know they're deciding wrong❤
He misspelled words in ways that they were pronounced like the correct spelling, and he also would take doubled letters and reduce them to single letters, he also would do the reverse. His misspellings are definitely intentional, and also a clue. If two things sound the same, they're called homophones. There's a class of ciphers known as homophonic ciphers, and that's what his Z408 and Z340 ciphers are. Granted he did misalign part of the Z340, but that was easily fixed and didn't cause the issue an actual wrong letter in a cipher would cause. Also the way he wrote it, in perfectly straight rows and columns, sure makes it look like he was quite familiar with cryptography. And that's not all that suggests he was.
Nope, his name was found. Yes intentional, most hid the second clue almost everyone has missed, I explained how to see that above.
It is totally possible that some ciphers, especially the one supposedly giving the Zodiac Killer's name, could just complete nonsense symbols meant to mislead with no intended solution whatsoever.
two contain his name. Every Char means something, so why dont you solve and see. You do it using Google translator, that is all. Be sure you get special char too.
Z13 doesnt give you a name, it is only found in Z340 and Z408. So we have his name now, thats more than anyone got in 50 years.
That first entry... did I hear that right? Is that CIA guy's last name 'shite'?
That poor dude ...ouch.
Just looked him up, it's spelt Scheidt but it sure as hell is said shite, amazing lol
Shyyte!
That can’t be how it’s pronounced.
Just think of the man that invented the flushing toilet.
@@shiftymcgee9359 It's a German name. So it's at least how his forefathers pronounced it.
Shouldnt this be a "Decoding the unknown" channel clip?
Simon's beautiful capitalist heart saw the perfect chance to end on a plug, gotta love it. DtU is the channel I started on btw, highly recommend.
I would not be surprised of the zodiac killer cyphers were not intended to be solved. I would not be surprised if its just garbage made to make him famous and look smart
As said in the video, some of the Zodiac cyphers have been solved pretty recently (after decades of unsuccessful attempts).
So it's probable that even the yet unsolved ones are meant to be solvable. That we'd learn anything of value if all cyphers were solved is clearly another matter, though...
A problem I've only just noticed. When deciphering text the assumption is that the plain text original was spelled correctly, for example at 2:31, in paragraph K3 'desperately' is wrongly spelled 'desparatly' so if the decryption process looks for proper words it will skip errors like this.
Not a misspelling, that is really how it is spelled in Tamil. desparatly Put in google translator and see for yourself.
@@mydogs5040 Nope. It's a word in English not Tamil and the /dictionary/ spelling is wrong.
I really hope we solve the Zodiac Killer. I want that person caught and arrested if they’re still alive.
We have his name. I dont know what happens after that. It got turned into law enforcement.
@@mydogs5040 who are you talking about? The FBI has stated they don’t know why the zodiac killer is.
You thought you knew everything there is to know, but then you find out Simon has yet another channel you hadn't heard about.
Hello, I have found something. In Z340 there appears also to be a second message solved vertically. Theres a line above "Gyke" - the word "because", you drop the "be", type "cause space gyke". - it is the language Friesen - upper pennisula of the Netherlands and where he is from, it says GOOD LUCK. I wonder how many times he hid words and it has to be done a second time to get the vertical messages. Just like he did when he hid messages behind misspellings. Yes, I solved the remainder lines 5-20 that was never solved in Z340 and all the rest too, they are other languages. The Zodiac wrote "cause" Cryptos made it into "because". But you were not supposed to. He did mean Cause.
HE TOLD US GOOD LUCK. HMMMMM. Wonder what else is hidden ??
I'd like to know what the Manuscript says, it seems like a god-level book of knowledge.
24 options? ya... that's definitely a musical scale and not the alphabet...
It's 400 BC by God's Time Into Blessings..
Raining Blood..
I once bothered to decode the colour cypher featured on the cover of New Order's LP Power, Corruption & Lies.
This reminds me of the parchments discovered in tge altar pediment at Rennes le C hateau
The zodiac is Rafael Cruz father of Ted Cruz
Way to fulfill the void! Good Show Boyz!
Wait until chatGPT-4 or 5 is put to work on ciphers
I can still remember "inventing" my first cipher, and I thought I was so clever (it was a Caesar cipher . . I was a kid and didn't know better at the time after all.)
However, I did develop one in high school that no one has been able to casually crack, which gives me a little pride.
Yup I remember inventing the 2 stroke diesel engine in sixth grade only to find out about Detroit diesel some time later
I hate when that happens.
I was once very proud that I invented a card trick (basically laying down 9 cards, pick one, I shuffle again and can show you the one you picked because of the order laid down, picked up, and shuffled). - mom wasn't impressed, but soon after broke down and bought my a Nintendo64.
nice A Christmas Story reference
Nice shout out to Jean Shepherd.
Has chatgpt tried to solve any
So me the Cristmas Story with some cane
1:15 Ed Shite? Well that's a name.
you realize that people just make shit up and call it a cipher....
occams razor and all that...
Ed Sheit! Hah! 💩💩💩
Ed what was that? 🤣🤣🤣
Sweet.