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The Toshiba Windows 98 Laptop! (435CDS) - Overview & Exploration
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ก.ย. 2021
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Today we're taking a look at the Toshiba Satellite 435CDS that was recently donated to me!
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Literally the thickness of all the laptops I've owned combined
@Mr Pais lmao what's your GPU btw
@Jamal Ramadan I hated my old thin and light as well it's too fragile and gets too damn hot
@Mr Pais lol that's a pretty capable card. Congrats on getting a card during these troubled times, assuming of you didn't get it before the GPU shortage 😂
I have an old Armada 1750 that's even thicker than this. Great little PC for portable gaming.
8:19 Ah yes, Rick Astley will never gonna give this laptop up
haha
this basically happens on every mjd video
@@tiash_dev Yeah, same with Mrwhosetheboss video too
You noticed that two?
Is that a rickroll?
I freakin love this channel. It’s so weird yet educational and entertaining.
Glad to hear that! Thanks so much
@@MichaelMJD I love this channel!
The CDS models had the dual scan screens, the CDT models the TFT one, hence the model names. We used to sell the successor of this model in the shop I was working back then. As you said, this model must have been originally sold with Windows 95. Later models had both floppy and CD installed in the laptop.
I have a 1640CDT and it has a TFT screen and both CD-ROM and Floppy Drive are built-in. When I picked it up from the trash, it had an 6 GB HDD with Windows XP but it was faulty and I replaced it with a 40 GB disk eith Windows 98. My CD-ROM drive lost its front panel and I had to glue the FDD. It's a very nice PC!
i'm assuming the S stands for STN and the T stands for TFT
@@the2323guy Makes sense
Whats dual scan screens mean?
I have a 430CDT
I remember my dad having an old toshiba satellite laptop, looked slightly newer than this one I would guess, no trackpad, windows 98. I think it was quite expensive for its time around £1000 in the very early 00's. I definately remember the insane screen ghosting playing duke nukem lol.
I didn't even exist when this laptop was a thing but it still feels nostalgic.
ah yes Rick Astley
I always liked this line of Toshiba laptops. Back when they made really good computers. The form factor started with late 486 and evolved into the Pentium era. Well built, with the power supply built in which is super nice. Date range for these is 1994-1996ish. I have a 410CDT which has a 90mhz Pentium on a VLB bus architecture. The flap for the serial port is broken on mine too. Amazingly the battery in mine is still good and it's from 1995.
Best part of these is the nice ISA based ESS sound chip, good FM synth. It's also really compatible with many different OS! NT, OS/2, Linux. Nice standard system. The main issue with these today is the clock battery - it's NiCad and it leaks! It's under the keyboard - pull it out or it will destroy the motherboard. CDS version is passive scan always with Toshiba. CDT is active matrix and the one to buy if you find it.
There is a DOS app you can run to force the fan on - I have it someplace on my NAS. The system will only force the fan on if it gets to the temp of lava.
If you need a working Toshiba floppy let me know I think I have a spare. The floppy drive can be swapped out of that enclosure.
I has a vista era satellite and it was the first family laptop and it was awesome
Ah, yes. Back when you didn't need more than a few MEGABYTES of RAM and a few hundred MEGABYTES of hard disk.
20 years from now 500 TB SSD and like 16 TB ram will be like the standard😳 i’m kidding but maybe
I am 12 and I really like to watch this
@@masterfunkstuff you sure?
my dad used a satellite pro 440cdx back in the day. unfortunately though only the power light of it turns on
shut up
The passive matrix display created a really cool fade in and fade out to the desktop windows, in my opinion. Greetings from Brazil
This is hands down one of my most favorite channel on TH-cam! Keep up the good work mate.
Thank you!!
You can actually fix that floppy drive by opening it up and relubricanting the floppy disk drive track which moves the head back and forth. When the lubricant dries out, it becomes harder for the drive to move the head to track zero
I miss that about old laptops: the direct A/C in connection... No brick to carry around. I think that once they decided to keep increasing clock speeds and trying to keep up with Moore's Law, it got so hot inside the cases that they said: "how can we get some heat out of this machine without it sounding like a jet taking off?" And some guy in a design lab somewhere said, "well if we take the transformer out of the case, that will remove a lot of heat".... He got a bonus and or promotion, and we got extra crap to try not to lose and stuff down in an already exploding laptop bag. Lol
No? They wanted for the laptops to be smaller, so the psu had to go.
Also its not about keeping up with Moore's law but with because laptops cant afford to be any more slower than desktops they already are.
Not necessarily. I had a Compaq LTE 4/25 when I was a kid (actually, I have one now, not the same one mind you) and that's quite a bit older than this and it has an external power supply.
@@the_kombinator Yes, to be fair it was not the case in all laptops, but i would imagine that it started to be the reason in the late 90s and early 2000s
@@AveragePootis Probably. I mean, the LTE was already a chemistry textbook thick unit, imagine if they also integrated the Beta tape sized power supply into it as well?
@@the_kombinator Or imagine something like a 2004 Dell XPS gaming laptop with an integrated psu, its already incredibly large, hot and heavy
Never does get old I love that startup sound I just love it
I saw one of these at work. The building was vacated in the early 00s and is basically just used as a meeting point now. In one of the abandoned offices there's lots of old servers and laptops, including a Satellite Pro which I powered on, but the hard drive had failed. I would've taken it home but I don't know the process for that, nor do I think I have the authorisation, and I had to get a train home, so unfortunately it'll end up in the e-waste pile :(
Michael: 1.26GB! I’m never going to need more then that!
*Shows picture of 48TB NAS
I remember once back in 1999 was debating with my friends on should I get a 10 or 2 GB HDD, I wanted the 10GB my father told me why do I want all of this storage? gonna fill it with a British encyclopedia!!!
Man there’s a lot of things to love about old tech but man alive passive matrix LCDs isn’t one of them.
@Jamal Ramadan Even though they're worse than CRTs.
@@Jake1702 I think they're better than CRTs. CRTs hurt my eyes. They're basically a glowing tube shooting electrons.
@@hexagonist23 CRTs don't have headache inducing ghosting that looks like malfunctioning lmao
Wow, even new laptops still use a brick power adaptor. That is nice this old laptop doesn't require it
"Even"? It's a bit of the other way round. Built in adaptors would be unacceptable for most people in the present era where, besides performance, obviously, thin and light is the most sought after feature . Back when any laptop was chunky and heavy anyway, it was nice to have built in power supplies. And since battery life was not that good then, you had your laptop hooked to mains more often, so... That said, many laptops had a separate brick back then too, so yes, it was very nice a feature.
Downside is that it heats up the inside of the laptop pretty well....
My family had a machine like this way back in the day and the same external floppy drive. Loved it for playing computer games.
The screen died several in 2004. Miss it.
07:57 That sound... Chilling, Relaxing, a Send me back spell
8:19
It says registered to: *Rick Astley*
Is that a secret rickroll or something?
Yes. Yes it is.
Love your content so much Michael, keep up the good work!
Thanks so much!
Awesome video, Michael!
Thank you!
God I love those old tech / geeky videos with my coffee in the morning :))) Awesome channel Michael!
Thank you!
Yay! A Full Overview!
To fix this door, you could open up the laptop, and glue a small magnet on the inside of the plastic with double sided tape (or something stronger if you want to make this perfect, and then, you glue a piece of metal or another small magnet (if you have broken optical drives from desktop computers, in the laser assembly, you can find tiny neodimium magnets) and make sure the 2 magnets/magnet piece of metal lign up with eachother. I did this once to a powerbook and i have to say, its a good permanent solution, its not factory perfect, but you will see that the door will stay closed and it is still easy to open. I love those old machines and i come up with cosmetic and structural fixes for these, even newer machines that are weak i can fix, i have a lenovo g580 with a fixed hinge that was broken off completely, now? Its sturdy like new again, it will never fail again. I will make a video about this laptop very soon!
Around 2010 Toshiba Satellite notebooks could be found in the trash here in Brazil, I took several for myself, but in the end I only had the most complete of all, a 335CDS with backpack, manual, brochures, PSU. It has a Windows 95 seal but the installed system is a W98SE
Used to have the 110 model back in the day... Had a whopping 810Mb hard drive if I recall correctly.
Always loved that little thing, screen was blurrier than a night on the town when gaming but it didn't really matter to be honest.
I love these mid/late-90s Satellite models. I've got a 335CDT with 98SE that give me my 9x nostalgic fix and that Yamaha OPL3-SA3 chipset sounds so good.
Finally some piece of hardware that I've actually touched!
I've foundone of this exact model on thrash a couple years ago and it was working perfectly
Had one of these for work. Loved the track point without having to buy a ThinkPad.
My first laptop was passive matrix. You definitely got used to it. I honestly loved it. It was a Windows 95 machine and had better compatibility with my DOS games than my Windows 98 computer did. I used it to play all my old stuff for several years until DOSBox became a thing.
I'm addicted to collecting these beige 90s Toshiba Satellites. I don't know why, there's just something about the design that really intrigues me.
I found the 430 CDS model and was able to swap out 3 parts from the CDT model by looking at the service manual to get the better TFT screen. This was years ago when parts were easy to find and no one wanted them. Glad I did it. Also see if you have the C&T 65550/4 graphics chip. My 430 needs the vexp commmand program to run at start up or resolutions that are less then native will have black boarders around them. The hardware was not able to scale the lower resolutions up to fill the screen for some reason, so there is software that does it.
I love the Toshiba Satellite line of laptops. I still have my Satellite 2805-S302, which was my first laptop ever as a kid. It came with windows ME, has a DVD drive and a floppy drive, 128mb of RAM. As a 10-year-old, it was a dream!
Omg. The nostalgia! I had this exact laptop growing up.
BIOS/Clock batteries in Toshibas usually leak all over the place, I recommend removing them as quicly as possible. Nice video. Great laptop.
Love this kind of content !
Windows 98 was such a great operating system.
as a 14 year old kid, these videos interest me alot. love your work michael :)
In '98/'99 at my office we still had a lot of those as legacy machines knocking around; we gathered all of them up and replaced them with better P2 and early P3 Compaq laptops, then wiped the lot of them, did a basic '95 + Drivers reinstall on them, and gave them away to employees. I enjoyed the time I spent doing the refresh on all of 'em...
8:32
“Registered to: Rick Astley”
Michael did it again.
Always a wonderful day when you see a Micheal MJD video for sure.
Always a wonderful day when you see people misspelling Michael
Aaah! DooM II Hell on earth, the classic from 1994. I had It on floppy disk. I love this channel! I sub strait away
Thanks for subscribing!
Oh god, my first laptop was a model very similar to this one, how much nostalgia
OMG this was my first laptop! I fell in love with PC's thanks to this laptop.
Currently have a 420CDT, really nice machine, especially with the active matric screen. The external drive also works, got a Compaq ball mouse and even got a second hard drive with win95, a few startup diskettes and a leather case! All that for 2€, battery even work. One of the best findings I ever did.
Im actually very glad you made this, I myself have a 420CDS, the drive died on me and had to get a new one. My problem being that I need to somehow install Windows 98 on it but I don’t have any floppy drives or software to do so.
Awesome video! I had a Satellite 220CDS which is extremely similar but it had ONE usb port! Managed to install Linux (on 16mb of ram as well) and get some new USB peripherals working. Sadly I never managed to get wifi working (using a usb wifi adapter) but would had been a great milestone (only managed to get a wireless mouse which is also insane with such low specs for a win95 machine)
Oh yes, I really love this one. I have the exact same machine with everything, the external floppy-drive and the dock. This was my very first PC when I was 6 years old I updated it to Windows 98Plus and used to play Tomb Raider II.
Now it won't start, the only thing I get is a blank screen, also on the external Monitor.
I had a Toshiba Tecra 510 CDT, I loved that computer, had 95, 98, and 2000 on it, 64MB of Ram, 10Gb HDD, Floppy and CD swappable and usable with enclosure externally! It was a great laptop at the time. It looked almost exactly like this one. Thanks for the nostalgia trip!
Edit* I also had the huge dock-station for it, that thing was awesome.
My parents had one of these! My childhood was spent playing sims 1 on one of these during school holidays at my mums shop!
this video was uploaded the same day I had a dream about a very similar toshiba laptop
The effects seen in the game because of that Passive Matrix stuff was damn cool. Blurriness can actually sometimes improve the appeal of something which normally anyone gets to see full of pixels and sharpened. Here we see that case.
Yeah it's like motion blur before motion blur was even a thing.
@@FlyboyHelosim Yeah
I have a Toshiba Satellite from 2004, although I don't use it now since I got a HP Victus. Either way, both AMAZING computers
Also don't think we wouldn't catch that "Registered to Rick Astley"
Yay, at the early 2000s i had buy for cheap firstly Satellite 100CS (P1 75MHz), and couple years later Satellite Pro 470CDT, pretty similar to this machine. Even battery had same model number (I remember as back in the days I've tried to fix it, unsuccessfully). Unlike that 435CDS 470CDT had 2 pretty loud speakers combined with Yamaha OPL3, also, i believe, USB 1.0 at the back which is pretty amazing for the 1997/98. Main reason I bought it then was that I've already got ton of fun with older Toshiba, but i want to play Fallout 2 in the bed, and play mp3s I record on CD-Rs. 100CS only had PC-Speaker :D. It do both flawlessly (well... at least good enough) and never let me down. In fact I think I have those in some box at attic. 10+ years ago i used to use 470 to diagnose older Ford cars at my garage (those operates EEC-IV ECU, with blink codes, counting them by dedicated application were just more convienient), and friend of mine literally run through it by a car, guess what? LCD and the cover broke, but Toshiba were still operative with external display xD inside it is build like a tank, like nothing produced nowadays.
I still own a 4000CDT I upgraded to a Celeron to play DOS games. I got it at a flea market. The poor thing seemed to have been thrown to the ground a few times but still work amazingly. Yes, the original hard drive too.
Hey! I saw that little Eddie "Reliable" Trustman at 1:14
"Two, count em, TWO" -- marshmallows? Oh, PCMCIA slots
One funny thing abt this channel is like, every time he mentions PS2 ports and stuff I always think of the Sony Playstation 2 because most of my TH-cam content consumption is more gaming oriented lmao
Similar build to the 110CS I once had. Upgraded to the full RAM expansion of 40MB, though it was an older P100 model. Yes the screen always had that look about it like it was grubby and needed a clean!
They faired much better in low light conditions, and not bad for word processing use as I found the TFT version way too bright for my eyes!
I grew up with this exact model. So much Starcraft.
I love this channel and also love the vintage laptops and desktops.
8:18
Damn i got rickrolled
btw great video as usual
My first x86 PC was a Toshiba Satellite Pro 405CS. From what I can tell, the case and form factor is identical. That machine of mine is now covered in black duct tape and the keyboard has issues, but it still works, and my battery too also holds a slight charge. It currently runs a custom Linux distro I built from source code tarballs. It's very nice to see this machine in action in near-pristine condition, since it's been so many years since mine qualified as "pristine".
omg i love tis laptop. or maybe "Schlepptop" because in germany we say this to such old machines Because they are really heavy and you have to "Schleppen/Schlepp" (i know german words are weird and confusing) them. and to "Schleppen" means something like “take it with you”, or to carry is more accurate.
In any case, this is the perfect device to simply sit down at your desk in the evening with a warm cup of cocoa and write stories in Word from 1998.
Gonna upload a video about Windows 11 later today. Too bad neither Michael and I can run Windows 11, and we'll be stuck on Windows 10 (or in my case, Linux).
Here before 1K views!
Edit: I decided not to upload the video as I became busy with things. Sorry.
GET A BETTER PC THEN. One with TPM 2.0 and at least an 8th gen Intel core CPU or at least a 3rd gen AMD ryzen CPU
The boss of my father had such a notebook (think it was more likely a 435CDS), I remember that, I was at most seven years old and I was amazed that a computer can be so small 😀 At that time, only the boss had a notebook for accounting, the secretaries had an electronic typewriter and only two-three years later a computer, my father had as a sales driver in his truck a little later a handheld (super heavy, unwieldy, crashed constantly) with black and white screen and a small dot matrix printer with continuous paper to print out invoices.
8:18 “Registered to Rick Astley”
I can’t
8:28
Registered to: Rick Astley 💀💀💀
I got the 430CDT with the original hard drive in 32 MB of ram, but with an active matrix display and I think I showed it on my YT channel!
Instant nostalgia i had one exactly like this one back in the 90's 8t was for school. I loved it still have it but as i moved from place to place it got damage form the move. I loved it. And tell you guys 1.5 gig was a lot back then.
Bro the crash zoom at 1:00 killed me rofl
Ayyy! I actually used to have a model like this somewhere, I will tell you if I find it, thanks for reminding me about this laptop!
Soo cool! I have a 200CDS that I saved from e-waste that I need to find a replacement screen for. really neat machines!
We have watches that have more memory than this has storage.
I have a 2505CDS myself, and the comments ring true, CDT is the model to look for. I remember bringing mine into a pre-summer half-day in high school, and I just carried myself with no shame rocking a 98 machine that can play NES games and barely does Doom, while my friends could play Call of Duty Zombies on their phone or Magic The Gathering around us.
1:08 Those capacities of the RAM and HDD were so early.
Reminds me of my Satellite 410CS! Mine also came with an external floppy that doesn't work, modem card, and a battery that still works, sort of. I reinstalled Windows 95 on it. Great machine! 👍
Oh god, i had one of these Toshiba Satellite laptops around '06 , i was so dumb back then, i used to brag to my school friends that i have a laptop which can connect to satellites in space and even hack them.
This is just like my oldest laptop that I still have which is a Toshiba satellite 330cds. A sticker on mine says that it was made on 11/14/1998. It has a 266 mhz Pentium mmx cpu with 96 mb of ram and a 4.1 gb hard disk drive. I have it running Windows 98 second edition.
I had a Fujitsu with two inserts and you could do CD-ROM. Floppy or battery. It had an external floppy case as well.
Holy nostalgia trip, it's the first laptop I've ever owned! Only difference is mine ran 98se so it may have been a slightly newer version (though I distinctly remember the green track point and the curved mouse buttons . I used to play the Tonka games and roller coaster tycoon for hours on mine
Very interesting, Active Matrix displays still had this sort of ghosting all throughout the late 90s and early 2000s, is just that the refresh rate is faster and so is more difficult to notice, even cheap TFT LCDs have it till this day but this is like watching a recording of those screens in slow motion, I was wondering what's the refresh rate of a screen like this? because is not 60hz that's for sure.
The refresh rate is probably 30 or 60, but refresh rate ≠ pixel response times. You see this with 120Hz screens that undoubtedly can send new pixels to the screen that often, such as with mouse movement, but they can’t get rid of the old pixel for like 30ms. Thus technically being 120Hz for some uses, but for full screen purposes it’s functionally 30Hz.
That Netscape Navigator CD was in a jewel case, in a laptop case, donated by Case! Case-ception!
I remember playing Microprose GP2 in this laptop. Awesome for the time.
Had an earlier version of this around 94. The docking station was motorized. And if you think that thing is huge, the docking station was massive, not to mention the CRT monitor.
My grandma's first laptop was a Toshiba Satellite 1555CDS. She still has it somewhere around here but it needs a new screen and keyboard but other than that its mint
awesome video as always!
Back "in my day" a 640MB hard drive was HUGE.
1:13 Steve Balmer is always Watching is even in text
You sound exactly like my japanese friend Toshiba :O
Man you a legend
While the display may not be ideal, you can still connect an external monitor to it and that helps a lot.
7:16 I grimaced as soon as he said 'this screen' because I knew exactly what was coming. I was mercifully not around for the era of passive matrix LCDs but I have seen them in action before, and maaaan I find them hard to look at when there's a lot of movement on the screen like in many games. Actually painful/uncomfortable, one aspect of '90s tech best left in the past.
1:13 that windows xp figure is haunting me.
1:13 i saw that little head on the dot, sneaky
8:18 Registered to "Rick Astley",this laptop will Rick Roll
Yo these laptops are great, I have the 4000CDS. Up until around early 2020 Toshiba still had drivers for all these listed online. Sadly they had since removed all of it. But they can still be hunted down, and these could run -anything-. From DOS 5.1 with Windows 3, to OS/2 up to Windows XP era. These are fun, trying to get that Mac Rhapsody beta running on mine. Edit; Just checked the website. Drivers for NT 4.0 / 95 and up are still available, but all DOS/ OS/2 era drivers were removed. Surely they could still be found tho
Screen refresh rate: YES
You should have tried 3D Space Pinball on that screen
8:17 Wait, did he just Rick Roll us?!
Yes.
I actually have 2 laptops similar to this one, its a Toshiba t5200 (running MS-DOS), and a Toshiba T2100CS (running Windows 95) sadly both have a broken floppy drive and the one with W95 has no CD drive so I have no way of getting files to and from these machines, its still fun to mess around in windows though and just do simple things on it :D