Jeff feels like the new Mei. Back when Overwatch launched there was a consistent hatred toward Mei players and people calling her the devil incarnate. All while she was canonically the most wholesome character in that universe.
Which is an unfair comparison to make. Once people are familiar with his ult, it's quite easy to counter. While Mei remained evil for the whole OW1 and arguably still in OW2
@@blackmailzalso on June 10th, the first season drops, in it Jeff’s ult now only goes 5 maters in the air and the hit box is fixed so if you’re outside his ult you wouldn’t get eaten
I dont play ranked but namor doesnt seem that hard to play against. A well placed octopus is a problem but your greatest asset is bubbling near your support. If nobody finishes you fast you go invincible and your back to full in like 5 seconds.
I mean Jeff DOES technically curse while talking to rocket. It beeps the voice line doesn't he? Like he talks gibberish BEEP then back to gibberish right?
Jeff is a war criminal. Not only causing mass suicides with his ult on maps with ledges but also his ability to run with the smallest hitbox and self heal to such a degree you have to one shot him or hes not dying. Bubble and dive combo make his so fucking quick with so much healing and he gets a wall climb.
I swear to God the way ppl talk about jeff, its like that one meme with the day care personnel taking care of kids and then theres the pic of her committing war crimes
He is though lol. If you're talking about skill ceiling (how hard to master), then maybe, i dont know, but in terms of skill floor (how hard to learn just enough to function), he's very easy. His healing is a bouncing aoe, he's pretty safe as far as strategists go between his good mobility and self healing, and his ult is just a "drop it and keep going". The only real depth to him, at least at low levels, is figuring out where to place your various devices so they're both safe and effective. And honestly if we're talking absolute bottom of the barrel skill floor, low level casual players won't know enough to shoot your beacons or ammo fields anyway
as a jeff support main we are nasty nice ittle men that will swallow everyone and not spit out the allies before throwing the whole enemy team from the train to teach our dps the rules about running off while i try to heal them and the vanguard forgetting his abilities. i also main iron fist so be are your healers are mine
jeff is the most adorable little thing, HE SINGS THE JAWS THEME SONG WHEN GOING UNDERWATER SOMETIMES ITS SO CUTE I CANT (I literally cant, I dont play him bc i just say aww whenever I see him)
This made me realize that it is kinda freaking weird to just get the cannibal perk out of nowhere. You'd think you had to something to get but no, you just decide to be a cannibal one day.
My mains are Squirrel Girl, Luna Snow, and Cloak and Dagger. I also occasionally go Peni Parker or Jeff if I’m feeling silly. Squirrel Girl is fun. Luna slays, and Cloak & Dagger are surprisingly versatile
i played Magneto and Strange because it's hard for me to be selfish enough to remain on a DPS when everyone after me picks nothing but DPS and the most DPS-adjacent healers with no tank (They do not do DPS damage)
meanwhile if im playing strategist, cloak & dagger are one of my go tos but im so hard focused on trying to play healer that i keep forgetting i can swap to cloak for better damage output. like i know i should swap to cloak when i dont need to heal, but i just end up throwing out dagger's pot shots more on the off chance i need to start healing even tho a swap only takes like a second
@@Apolleh I somewhat have a similar issue but I've gotten used to switching. The issue I mostly have is that it never really seems that worth switching to Cloak. His right click is entirely useless unless you're in a very well coordinated team and even then it's so niche it's not worth being a whole ability. Then with Dagger being able to hit at a farther distance anyway - with tracking too - she's usually better off just staying out until someone gets close.
@@peculiar Don't insult it by comparing it to Overwatch.. that trash.. even though yes it is basically Marvel Overwatch. Marvel Rivals though is actually much better but there's some severe balancing issues.
@@Eventide215 I meant the comparison more along the lines of everyone insta-locks DPS, no one wants to tank or heal and people are (probably?) more focused on their kill count than whatever the objective is. Trust me, I have no love for Overwatch.
@@jonasquinn7977 I second this but with the addendum to watch it before you read the comics. It works as a fun introduction before diving into the much more well-written stories.
Jeff is a war crime the fact his ult can grab flyers out of the air at max height is straight up unfair and the fact the grab is basically instant as well
So you mean to tell me that I, me, keeps hunting down Jeff’s like I’m a bounty hunter and they’re supposedly sweet boys?? Sweet? Surely you meant sweet shark terrorist there’s no way 💀😭😹👵🏽
I tend to gravitate towards characters I liked in comics myself. Cloak & Dagger, Venom, Psylocke... Shame I have to wait all the way to the back half of Season One for my wide lad Mr. Grimm, though. Jeff I wanted to love but just didn't vibe with his kit. Alas.
Moon Knight is my main for sure. Loki is a close second. Feels weird since I usually play tanks characters but so far Cap is the only one I've really enjoyed.
My friends are gonna yank me into this game soon enough, I just know it... From the roster though...will probably go Rocket or...I'm not really sure. Haven't played a pvp game in a very long time.
I play psylocke cus good and my favourite xmen. Wolverine when i dont want to play an op dps. Strange for a solid tank venom for a fun tank and exclusively jeff for support because i hate support so i wanna troll
I flex. So for DPS right now I use Punisher and Star Lord. For Tanks I use Dr. Strange, Magneto and Peni Parker. For Supports, Jeff and Cloak and Dagger.
Sure Jeff might be facing allegations of multiple war crimes, but when I see him singing his little heart out and doing his little foot pats all my worries wash away. That has to count for something.
it’s the first shooter I’ve ever played in my life and my friend who got me into it mains Jeff so to me he is both a sweet lil’ man and a nasty boy. not mutually exclusive terms
When i installed rivals thought id be a jeff main lmao nope i shouldve known my love for guadians wouldve come calling with rocket and mantis 😂 (i need get used to not trying to instinctively dash with mantis her sleep is often used as a glorified sneeze)
I can remove a rocket from play easily, Loki too. Jeff, like venom is quick and very hard to send back to spawn and i despise him. Jeff isn't *just* nasty, he's disgusting.
ayy a fellow rocket! admittedly he ain't the best support but hes consistent and has a alot of really good tools! otherwise its Jeff and mantis for me on support and groot, magneto, penny on tank
Obviously she never fought against a good Jeff or she's a good Jeff player... If you're playing Jeff at his full potential, you KNOW how nasty the little bugger can be.
From what I know of Marvel Rivals, Jeff is sweet, it's his players who are **not**.
90% of the time but then you have the 10% that are polar opposites that are literally golden retrievers.
He has the most toxic ult in the game xD
Depends on the Jeff Main.
He has the soul of 1000 trolls
Its not even that they arwnt sweet. His ult is just toxic and feels bad lol. I havent run into like awful shitty people on him aside from one time
I've had no urge to play this game until seeing that sweet little man singing his heart out... and now I can think of nothing else...
Jeff was legit the reason why I started Marvel rivals 😂😅
I literally did the same thing lmao. Squirrel ass? I am unmoved. Tiny dog shark? Real shit, I'll be there in 5 minutes
fun fact: he has an ability where he dives into the ground with only his shark fin peeking through. during this ability, he sings the jaws theme 🤣
Same lol
same here, I hadn't really thought I'd try the game, but now I need to know who that is and I might play sometime
Jeff feels like the new Mei. Back when Overwatch launched there was a consistent hatred toward Mei players and people calling her the devil incarnate. All while she was canonically the most wholesome character in that universe.
Mei players are pure evil.
As one of the original Mei mains..... yeah... no I agree. Or you got the sweet angry mama bear Mei...
I mean didn't Jeff show that he would be evil given the chance with Namor in the comics?
I'm pretty sure he's nasty all the way through.
Which is an unfair comparison to make. Once people are familiar with his ult, it's quite easy to counter. While Mei remained evil for the whole OW1 and arguably still in OW2
@@blackmailzalso on June 10th, the first season drops, in it Jeff’s ult now only goes 5 maters in the air and the hit box is fixed so if you’re outside his ult you wouldn’t get eaten
I am a Namor main until people figure out how to fight Namor. Then I'll actually have to figure out how to play the video game.
I so rarely ever see someone play Namor.. out of all the matches I've played I've probably seen him like 4 times..
Amen...
Spoken as someone who frequently duos with a Luna Snow player, Namor is my go to damage when the enemy doesn't know wtf an Octopus is.
@@Eventide215how? I feel like i see him at least twice a day.
I dont play ranked but namor doesnt seem that hard to play against. A well placed octopus is a problem but your greatest asset is bubbling near your support. If nobody finishes you fast you go invincible and your back to full in like 5 seconds.
Moon knight could easily use namors turrets against him. Considering his whole deal is his ricochet blades.
When Doogs said "Nasty boys" I immediately thought "Ah, must be Loki"
"sweet little men like you"... I had to run that one through my head a second time
Dont you slander my little war criminal
I'll be real. "Little nasty boy" is a perfect descriptor for Rocket.
When “two little nasty boys” was said Loki jumped out of my mouth like a snake in badger hole
It's important to remember that Jesse is deathly afraid of sharks.
I mean Jeff DOES technically curse while talking to rocket. It beeps the voice line doesn't he? Like he talks gibberish BEEP then back to gibberish right?
He's telling the slurs of his people.
Jeff is a war criminal. Not only causing mass suicides with his ult on maps with ledges but also his ability to run with the smallest hitbox and self heal to such a degree you have to one shot him or hes not dying. Bubble and dive combo make his so fucking quick with so much healing and he gets a wall climb.
You can't hide that humongous entertainment sound effect from me near the end there. I see you bud.
I swear to God the way ppl talk about jeff, its like that one meme with the day care personnel taking care of kids and then theres the pic of her committing war crimes
As a Jeff player: Your salt only makes me thrive as a sea creature.
I appreciate the editing so so much!
Im convinced 90% of this playerbase has absolutely no clue how to play rocket when they say "he's easy"
He is though lol. If you're talking about skill ceiling (how hard to master), then maybe, i dont know, but in terms of skill floor (how hard to learn just enough to function), he's very easy. His healing is a bouncing aoe, he's pretty safe as far as strategists go between his good mobility and self healing, and his ult is just a "drop it and keep going". The only real depth to him, at least at low levels, is figuring out where to place your various devices so they're both safe and effective. And honestly if we're talking absolute bottom of the barrel skill floor, low level casual players won't know enough to shoot your beacons or ammo fields anyway
as a jeff support main we are nasty nice ittle men that will swallow everyone and not spit out the allies before throwing the whole enemy team from the train to teach our dps the rules about running off while i try to heal them and the vanguard forgetting his abilities. i also main iron fist so be are your healers are mine
Jeff is a sweet lil baby man who have never done a bad thing in his life, anything that could be considered is fully justified
I'm a Jeff main, and I didn't understand why my friends called me a terrorist until I fought a good Jeff.
Jeff is the sweetest on your team, but a war criminal once a Jeff shows up with the enemy. There is no in-between.
Initially I was lukewarm on the game during its announcement but then I saw Jeff and I was hooked😂instant serotonin
Well, Jesse has been known to fear sharks. In his words; they're godless killing machines.
Which is ironic cus sharks actually get attacked for no reason by true godless killing machines : Dolphins
I fuckin love you guys are STILL doing this podcast. Been following for 8+ years. When I found out you guys did a pod together again ❤❤❤
jeff is the most adorable little thing, HE SINGS THE JAWS THEME SONG WHEN GOING UNDERWATER SOMETIMES ITS SO CUTE I CANT (I literally cant, I dont play him bc i just say aww whenever I see him)
They say Jeff is just a sweet angel... you know who else was an angel, the Devil.
This made me realize that it is kinda freaking weird to just get the cannibal perk out of nowhere. You'd think you had to something to get but no, you just decide to be a cannibal one day.
bro just named all my mains , they’re all little nasty boys 🤭
Of course dodger mains loki
My mains are Squirrel Girl, Luna Snow, and Cloak and Dagger. I also occasionally go Peni Parker or Jeff if I’m feeling silly.
Squirrel Girl is fun. Luna slays, and Cloak & Dagger are surprisingly versatile
Who asked? You legit talking to yourself on a public platform LOLtf
@ you lead a sad life when outside of middle school, I bet.
Women will NEVER escape the healer allegations
She also picks low tier healers, probably peak silver maybe low gold at most
I too am a rat main, but my rat has rabies and is very agressive which is great because no one expects to get mowed down within a few seconds.
i played Magneto and Strange because it's hard for me to be selfish enough to remain on a DPS when everyone after me picks nothing but DPS and the most DPS-adjacent healers with no tank (They do not do DPS damage)
meanwhile if im playing strategist, cloak & dagger are one of my go tos but im so hard focused on trying to play healer that i keep forgetting i can swap to cloak for better damage output.
like i know i should swap to cloak when i dont need to heal, but i just end up throwing out dagger's pot shots more on the off chance i need to start healing even tho a swap only takes like a second
@@Apolleh I somewhat have a similar issue but I've gotten used to switching. The issue I mostly have is that it never really seems that worth switching to Cloak. His right click is entirely useless unless you're in a very well coordinated team and even then it's so niche it's not worth being a whole ability. Then with Dagger being able to hit at a farther distance anyway - with tracking too - she's usually better off just staying out until someone gets close.
Ah, so this _is_ Marvel-flavored Overwatch, then. Bummer.
@@peculiar Don't insult it by comparing it to Overwatch.. that trash.. even though yes it is basically Marvel Overwatch. Marvel Rivals though is actually much better but there's some severe balancing issues.
@@Eventide215 I meant the comparison more along the lines of everyone insta-locks DPS, no one wants to tank or heal and people are (probably?) more focused on their kill count than whatever the objective is.
Trust me, I have no love for Overwatch.
Isn't Jeff teaming up with Namor for world domination?
Played it for the first time a few days ago, and picked Punisher...So far he's the only one I find myself maining.
Its crazy because its opposite rocket is a hero jeff is a villian
Moon Knight is my guy, i didnt know he existed until rivals but legit hes becoming a big fav for marvel superheroes. Also in game hes fun as hell
The show was really good.
Moon Knight has some of the best comic runs I've ever read. One of them is so dark it makes Batman seem like the happiest dude on earth.
I would genuinely highly recommend the show, it’s really good and requires pretty much no understanding of the MCU
@@jonasquinn7977 I second this but with the addendum to watch it before you read the comics.
It works as a fun introduction before diving into the much more well-written stories.
In the tie-in comics, Jeff has either going to team up with namor or eat him, hard to tell, but that evil grin he gave makes me think the team up
Whoever edited the fricken Backyard Baseball intro before Jesse said, "Loki"...
You so real! 💯
that sound was in a ton of Humongous Entertainment games. My first thought was Putt Putt.
This is funny cause I picked up Loki yesterday simply cause I saw him “this nefarious little dude….”
Jeff canonically is not a sweet boy but he sure does look like it
Rocket is easy to use but at some point, you gotta get some skill
didnt know Jesse Cox was still around
JEFF IS A GOLDEN BOY, JESSE
Jeff is a war crime the fact his ult can grab flyers out of the air at max height is straight up unfair and the fact the grab is basically instant as well
Not anymore, that's getting changed in season 1
Former Venom main, now it's all about Sue Storm 😅
I rarely use the c word to describe someone, I would use it to describe Jeff everytime.
So you mean to tell me that I, me, keeps hunting down Jeff’s like I’m a bounty hunter and they’re supposedly sweet boys?? Sweet? Surely you meant sweet shark terrorist there’s no way 💀😭😹👵🏽
I have a few currently venom, bucky, mr fantastic ill use who i can and mainly sue storm
kind of wished rocket had been a bit diffrent :( feels like i just sit and spam orbs ergh just like peni spams mines and sits around
Isn't Jeff currently teaming up with Namor (which makes him a nasty boy just from that) to take over the world?
I'm at lord with loki, and I tell my friends that I'm so great with him because I, like Loki, am also a bastard
fellow Rocket/Jeff player spotted lets gooooo
does marvel rivals have microtransactions? cause I can't do that anymore
Nope. Play and have fun.
Jeff is indeed not a nasty boy
Jeff is a sweet little warcriminal
I tend to gravitate towards characters I liked in comics myself. Cloak & Dagger, Venom, Psylocke... Shame I have to wait all the way to the back half of Season One for my wide lad Mr. Grimm, though.
Jeff I wanted to love but just didn't vibe with his kit. Alas.
Cringe
Loki is a *little* nasty boy in *what* universe? (I mean... other than when he's Kid Loki)
I love the call out part 😂
Wow, this is like watching a commercial
If you hate Jeff because of his ult, thats a skill issue my guy
Get good Jessie
Oh cool! Doogs is a Loki main too! I mostly play Loki and Peni.
Moon Knight is my main for sure. Loki is a close second. Feels weird since I usually play tanks characters but so far Cap is the only one I've really enjoyed.
My friends are gonna yank me into this game soon enough, I just know it...
From the roster though...will probably go Rocket or...I'm not really sure. Haven't played a pvp game in a very long time.
It's really fun. You should try it
Jeffs more like a sweet little war criminal.😂
he's a nasty bow editor, don't let him decieve yoy
Yess another Loki main!!
I play psylocke cus good and my favourite xmen. Wolverine when i dont want to play an op dps. Strange for a solid tank venom for a fun tank and exclusively jeff for support because i hate support so i wanna troll
I flex. So for DPS right now I use Punisher and Star Lord. For Tanks I use Dr. Strange, Magneto and Peni Parker. For Supports, Jeff and Cloak and Dagger.
Sure Jeff might be facing allegations of multiple war crimes, but when I see him singing his little heart out and doing his little foot pats all my worries wash away. That has to count for something.
Me: one of them has to be Loki I only know because I main Loki
it’s the first shooter I’ve ever played in my life and my friend who got me into it mains Jeff so to me he is both a sweet lil’ man and a nasty boy. not mutually exclusive terms
Oh Rocket is THE nasty boi, and the internet can back me up on that
Having watched Mr Samuel Streamer (Formerly Roll1d2Games) play Rimworld...
"The Sweet Little Man" is rarely as sweet as you think he is...
When i installed rivals thought id be a jeff main lmao nope i shouldve known my love for guadians wouldve come calling with rocket and mantis 😂 (i need get used to not trying to instinctively dash with mantis her sleep is often used as a glorified sneeze)
don't know what to say I guess I agree with the Bots jesse lol
I can remove a rocket from play easily, Loki too. Jeff, like venom is quick and very hard to send back to spawn and i despise him. Jeff isn't *just* nasty, he's disgusting.
ayy a fellow rocket!
admittedly he ain't the best support but hes consistent and has a alot of really good tools!
otherwise its Jeff and mantis for me on support
and groot, magneto, penny on tank
Love being a Loki main ❤
She/They...... And she likes the game. She isn't Triggered?
Shout out all my fellow wolverine mains
Jeff swallows the whole team...
Nasty boi
What’s wrong with Rocket
Jeff is ABSOLUTELY a little nasty boy. 😂
Why do they do that cringe pronouns stuff? It's obvious the lady on top is a lady and the guy underneath is a guy.
I got 64 best kills with magik
THE MOON HAINTS YOU
I am iron fist,punisher, and namor main
jeff is best boi. Magik is also fantastic to play
WE WILL NOT TOLERATE JEFF SLANDER! HE IS BEST BOI
jeff is no sweet little man
Every time you say nasty boy it sounds like something weird might be a maturity thing I don't know
Me: Iron- Oh.
Jeff was Himlers top guy
jeff is not sweet he is a war crime
yea but he’s a cute one
FACTS.
Im a jeff main and he IS a little nasty boy (i also thought jeff n rocket) but hes also the goodest boy ever.
Loki mention!
Loki is quite nasty
Jeff is not that sweet though. He says a lot of foul things, like groot does. He just gets away with it because we can't understand it, and he's cute.
Obviously she never fought against a good Jeff or she's a good Jeff player... If you're playing Jeff at his full potential, you KNOW how nasty the little bugger can be.