@@LuoiEdit I made a 60 plant wild sleet wheat farm in my latest base. It took 10 whole cycles for the pip to finally plant all the seeds. Was it worth it? Yes absolutely yes! Combined it with a small peppernut wild farm for getting pepper bread. My dupes are eating good with this. All this in the nick of time as I was running out of minerals to supply my 3 hatch farms.
Keeping the water itself around the -5C to 3C range is tricky, but well worth it in my opinion. Keeps things much more simple than having two liquid loops in the same area, and helps reduce the risk of accidentally breaking your pipes if you accidentally connect a couple.
It's not tricky. It's tricky with Aquatuner. You'd have to apply the technique that is used to make liquid hydrogen in order to make it happen. Heating up brime from a Cool Slush Geyser is much easier. XD
I use a two pool staging system. First one is chilled, then the chilled water is sent to the supply pool. I guess it's a 4 stage cooling system if you want to be fussy.
Actually the liquids inside a hydroponic farm can't freeze. Using ceramic insulated pipes to feed water at lets say 5ºC. Then running a cooling loop with pwater at -10ªC inside the plant from a cool slush geyser, then heating it up afterwards using radiant pipes with a tepidizer chamber with some water in it with termo sensor at around 5ºC. Running it into a water sieve and then feeding it to the sleet wheat. The water inside insulated tiles wont freeze and burst the pipes, and the water itself inside the hydroponic farm could get below -3ºC but it wont actually burst the farm.
@@Joakico Or you can use hot water and normal pipes while cooling down the farm itself. Hot water will not freeze before getting to the farm tiles. Salt Water Geysers are so much easier to find, heat from hot water is transfered to power the Steam Turbine, extra heat is deleted by Sleet Wheat. XD
I always make berry sludge if im getting sleet wheat in a run. But there is a cool thing I have done, If you have a cool salt slush gyser you can actually plant these into a room with the gyser and it will keep them cool. It works perfect free cooling and you can loop the cold salt water around in your base to heat up the water a tad, then desalinate it. Free plant cooling and base cooling. just add dirt.
The biggest problem about sleet wheat is that its fruit is also the seed. This causes the seed of the plant to be able to rott meaning that if you don't stabilize the surrounding quick enough for the plant to grow then you will end up losing all sources of sleet wheat on a map!
It's actually a smart decision to feed Sleet Wheat hot water that will not freeze before consumed by plants. However, it's actually better not to insulate the pipes and use the normal ones instead to let your TATST cooling loop collect the heat to cover half of its power cost. If the water is hot enough, it will not freeze. Also, petroleum isn't needed. Polluted water is good enough as long as you set your pipe thermosensor to the range of -5 to 4 degrees Celsius and let the temperature jump from 4 to -10, or from -5 to -19. Regulate the temperature range to your own needs. My pipe thermosensor is set to -4 because I use the cooling loop to cool down oxygen my Hydra produces as well. One more thing: This technique can be applied to any plant that requires irrigation. Instead of cooling down the water, it's much easier to cool down the farm itself and let your plants delete the rest of the heat. XD
Small note for the final design, be sure to use petroleum liquid locks when handling sleet wheat farms Then when using the same cooling loop for the turbine and the heat injector..... Insulate the turbine itself because the cold will leak into your base
I build sleet wheat farms armound Anti-Entropy Thermo Nullifiers. This works, but I also need a loop of radiant gas pipes with hydrogen flowing around the farm and AETN. The water needs to be hot just to avoid freezing while in the hydroponic tiles, but it is also heating up the environment like this, so nullifying that heat limits the size of the farm.
If you are going to use TAT instead, that heat is going to turn into power. The appeal of AETN is its cost, but it's not going to be easy. Insulated water pipes, insulated farms, insulated AETN with the hydrogen atmosphere, complicated automation, and water closer to freezing, but not too much. For AETN, it's better to use a cool slush geyser and control the water temperature by heating it.
I’ve always wondered, what does sleet wheat taste like? Does it just taste like normal wheat/flour/bread, or does it have a different, maybe tingly flavor? Your thoughts?
I reckon it`d be the softest bread you`ve every had, with a texture vaguely like fresh powdery snow. Taste would be something like a bracing midwinter morning, with a trace of pine perhaps?
Interesting question, I haven't thought about it. It does make frost buns and pepper bread so I suppose it's like normal flour. For some reason though I associate some crunchiness with it, that doesn't really make much sense on closer inspection. Maybe like a ice slushie kind of crunch but inside warm bread.
@@Ranulfdatank I imagine the opposite, actually. Southern-style biscuits rely on the soft summer wheat of the US south to stay fluffy, while the red wheat grown in Canada tends to be higher protein, and makes better bread flour. I imagine the frost buns to be really chewy, like a a baguette, bagel or good pizza dough.
is there any other way to get sleet wheat? i forgot to preserve the ones in the initial planetoid, it got extinct and i think theres no other planetoid in the starmap because i play with the single planetoid mod for performance reasons please help
In that case no - you can't print it from the printing pod so you have to find it around the map. Of course in the spaced out DLC it spawns on the frozen planetoid but as you don't have access to that then I'm afraid you're stuck without it. The only way you could put it back in is with sandbox or debug mode, but that would of course stop you from earning achievements if that's a concern.
I'm curious on a few combinations dealing with plants. Juicy fruit mutation wild farmed with grub grubs in a fully sealed room. Another is exuberant mutation with grub grubs and farmers touch wild or domestic. The output of these combinations could be massive.
As I covered in the food Tutorial Bite, to have 0% spoil, you need a sterile atmosphere (carbon dioxide is fine) AND deep freeze - so below -18 degrees. If it's a little warmer than -18, it will spoil very slowly, but still spoil.
That is a cold injector, so the idea is that you use the aquetuner to overcool the central block and then the doors are controlled by a thermo sensor to either let the cold through or not. That let's you finely control the temperature of your cooling loop rather than having a 14 degree range. I explained all of that in the cooling Tutorial Bite so check that out if you haven't seen it.
@@GCFungus kind of same idea as the generator by the lava, right? but i havent try it for cooling, i will take a look, btw, great illustration, kudos to you and all ONI players.
It’s really nice that wild sleet wheat tends to auto deep freeze in the wild so you can just leave them there until you need them.
Well, you dont need to, you can use normal temp water and use a cooled polluted water/ ethanol/ crude oil pipeline to cool afterward
@@LuoiEdit I made a 60 plant wild sleet wheat farm in my latest base. It took 10 whole cycles for the pip to finally plant all the seeds. Was it worth it? Yes absolutely yes! Combined it with a small peppernut wild farm for getting pepper bread. My dupes are eating good with this. All this in the nick of time as I was running out of minerals to supply my 3 hatch farms.
Keeping the water itself around the -5C to 3C range is tricky, but well worth it in my opinion. Keeps things much more simple than having two liquid loops in the same area, and helps reduce the risk of accidentally breaking your pipes if you accidentally connect a couple.
It's not tricky. It's tricky with Aquatuner. You'd have to apply the technique that is used to make liquid hydrogen in order to make it happen. Heating up brime from a Cool Slush Geyser is much easier. XD
I use a two pool staging system. First one is chilled, then the chilled water is sent to the supply pool. I guess it's a 4 stage cooling system if you want to be fussy.
Actually the liquids inside a hydroponic farm can't freeze. Using ceramic insulated pipes to feed water at lets say 5ºC. Then running a cooling loop with pwater at -10ªC inside the plant from a cool slush geyser, then heating it up afterwards using radiant pipes with a tepidizer chamber with some water in it with termo sensor at around 5ºC. Running it into a water sieve and then feeding it to the sleet wheat. The water inside insulated tiles wont freeze and burst the pipes, and the water itself inside the hydroponic farm could get below -3ºC but it wont actually burst the farm.
@@Joakico Or you can use hot water and normal pipes while cooling down the farm itself. Hot water will not freeze before getting to the farm tiles. Salt Water Geysers are so much easier to find, heat from hot water is transfered to power the Steam Turbine, extra heat is deleted by Sleet Wheat. XD
Been lovin these tutorials as a new player. Glad you're still makin them
I always make berry sludge if im getting sleet wheat in a run. But there is a cool thing I have done, If you have a cool salt slush gyser you can actually plant these into a room with the gyser and it will keep them cool. It works perfect free cooling and you can loop the cold salt water around in your base to heat up the water a tad, then desalinate it. Free plant cooling and base cooling. just add dirt.
It's a great idea. Though I prefer to use separate storage with brime collected from it to keep the farm closer to my food and dirt production.
I like the way you create these clips. So detailed and lovely commented! 😊
The biggest problem about sleet wheat is that its fruit is also the seed. This causes the seed of the plant to be able to rott meaning that if you don't stabilize the surrounding quick enough for the plant to grow then you will end up losing all sources of sleet wheat on a map!
It's actually a smart decision to feed Sleet Wheat hot water that will not freeze before consumed by plants. However, it's actually better not to insulate the pipes and use the normal ones instead to let your TATST cooling loop collect the heat to cover half of its power cost. If the water is hot enough, it will not freeze.
Also, petroleum isn't needed. Polluted water is good enough as long as you set your pipe thermosensor to the range of -5 to 4 degrees Celsius and let the temperature jump from 4 to -10, or from -5 to -19. Regulate the temperature range to your own needs. My pipe thermosensor is set to -4 because I use the cooling loop to cool down oxygen my Hydra produces as well.
One more thing: This technique can be applied to any plant that requires irrigation. Instead of cooling down the water, it's much easier to cool down the farm itself and let your plants delete the rest of the heat. XD
Your turtorials are amazing
Big thumbs up, great job explaining everything a player would need to know
Small note for the final design, be sure to use petroleum liquid locks when handling sleet wheat farms
Then when using the same cooling loop for the turbine and the heat injector..... Insulate the turbine itself because the cold will leak into your base
If you want to use liquid locks there, ethanol is a better insulator.
I build sleet wheat farms armound Anti-Entropy Thermo Nullifiers. This works, but I also need a loop of radiant gas pipes with hydrogen flowing around the farm and AETN. The water needs to be hot just to avoid freezing while in the hydroponic tiles, but it is also heating up the environment like this, so nullifying that heat limits the size of the farm.
Yeah AETNs are not very good
If you are going to use TAT instead, that heat is going to turn into power. The appeal of AETN is its cost, but it's not going to be easy. Insulated water pipes, insulated farms, insulated AETN with the hydrogen atmosphere, complicated automation, and water closer to freezing, but not too much. For AETN, it's better to use a cool slush geyser and control the water temperature by heating it.
Sleet wheat is such a unique plant
Ohh, Tutorial live!
I’ve always wondered, what does sleet wheat taste like? Does it just taste like normal wheat/flour/bread, or does it have a different, maybe tingly flavor? Your thoughts?
I reckon it`d be the softest bread you`ve every had, with a texture vaguely like fresh powdery snow. Taste would be something like a bracing midwinter morning, with a trace of pine perhaps?
I think the lore behind Sleet Wheat is that we buy frozen dough in stores and then let it melt before making the bread. XD
Interesting question, I haven't thought about it. It does make frost buns and pepper bread so I suppose it's like normal flour. For some reason though I associate some crunchiness with it, that doesn't really make much sense on closer inspection. Maybe like a ice slushie kind of crunch but inside warm bread.
@@GCFungus Time to call Heston Blumenthal.
@@Ranulfdatank I imagine the opposite, actually. Southern-style biscuits rely on the soft summer wheat of the US south to stay fluffy, while the red wheat grown in Canada tends to be higher protein, and makes better bread flour. I imagine the frost buns to be really chewy, like a a baguette, bagel or good pizza dough.
is there any other way to get sleet wheat?
i forgot to preserve the ones in the initial planetoid, it got extinct
and i think theres no other planetoid in the starmap because i play with the single planetoid mod for performance reasons
please help
In that case no - you can't print it from the printing pod so you have to find it around the map. Of course in the spaced out DLC it spawns on the frozen planetoid but as you don't have access to that then I'm afraid you're stuck without it. The only way you could put it back in is with sandbox or debug mode, but that would of course stop you from earning achievements if that's a concern.
Hi this is so helpful thanks
liquids cant freeze or evaporate inside hydroponic tiles. there is no reason to keep farm above -1C
I'm curious on a few combinations dealing with plants. Juicy fruit mutation wild farmed with grub grubs in a fully sealed room. Another is exuberant mutation with grub grubs and farmers touch wild or domestic. The output of these combinations could be massive.
How wild sleet in the cold biome and CO2 gas the seed is still soiled how it possible?
-cold air -20--10C°
As I covered in the food Tutorial Bite, to have 0% spoil, you need a sterile atmosphere (carbon dioxide is fine) AND deep freeze - so below -18 degrees. If it's a little warmer than -18, it will spoil very slowly, but still spoil.
@@GCFungus thank you for saying it
Do you mind to let me know why u build two gates under the cooler？ To prevent air flow ? Thanks
That is a cold injector, so the idea is that you use the aquetuner to overcool the central block and then the doors are controlled by a thermo sensor to either let the cold through or not. That let's you finely control the temperature of your cooling loop rather than having a 14 degree range. I explained all of that in the cooling Tutorial Bite so check that out if you haven't seen it.
@@GCFungus kind of same idea as the generator by the lava, right? but i havent try it for cooling, i will take a look, btw, great illustration, kudos to you and all ONI players.
@m102094020 Yes exactly, a heat injector is the same idea. You control the hear flow by having a door conducting or a vacuum not.
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how to get massive amounts of dirt??
By far the easiest way is using a pip dirt ranch, you can see the Pip Critter Tutorial Bite for more info: th-cam.com/video/gSRSxkWuzIM/w-d-xo.html
thanks
@@GCFungus
5hours ago, didn't you make this years ago?
Nope, this is definitely a new one!
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