This is the type of information stuck up artists don’t want to share. Thank you for an honest contribution. Can you do a video on fanning analogous colors? Any suggestions? Thanks
Just wanna say this video helped me tremendously. Ive been struggling color packing and my confidence just kept going down and down; so I immediately tried this method and it was some of the best color packing Ive done. I know you hear this a lot but as an apprentice, you don’t know how grateful I am for all the videos you put out.
Dddduuudddeeeee!!!! I've been doing it from home for a year now, and when i have big areas i tend to do those circles n its frustrating. thnx so so so so much my color has improved vastly
Jono Smith although im guilty as charged ridin the tube. although i have begin to allow more needle to come through the tube, n it makes for a cleaner work area (ink not everywhere) lol ur awesome buddy, what can i do to get over my nerves to float the needle, I'm confident but in the back of my mind i fear messing someone up, (knock on wood) so far so good... lol
It's a really good question actually. I remember asking my mentor, one year into opening my own studio, 'how do I get over my nerves'. Which is similar to what you're asking. I'd literally hardly sleep before a big job. I'd be nervous as hell on the day of the big job, to the point where I'd sometimes feel physically sick when the client arrived. It seems to be a shared condition amongst many tattooists in the beginning. My mentor told me he's been in the business 30+ years and still sometimes gets nervous. I think getting nervous about a particular aspect of your work (in your case, 'floating the tube') shows you actually care about your work. It shows you actually care enough about the job you're about to do. I've found the best way of dealing with it is to push yourself a little bit further whenever possible. Take yourself out of your comfort zone and float the tube. It's the only way you'll progress. At the time you'll most likely feel quite a lot of anxiety but afterwards you'll feel so much better. I personally feel tattooing is a constant learning progression. Almost every job I do, I'll learn something new. By taking yourself out of your comfort zone and having that little bit of self belief will surprise you. So the next tattoo you do, let your needle hang out, float the tube and really concentrate on the job at hand constantly checking your needle depth and you'll be surprised how quickly you adapt. Hope this helps. Good luck with it all.
Jono Smith thnx alot brother, u r very insightful. I have a back to do tomorrow minimal shading, but i will surely step.out of my comfort zone, and i also will look into practice skins. Thnx so much again so so much
Good luck with it. As I always tell my apprentice, don't look at the whole design. Just concentrate on the tiny piece you're actually tattooing at the time. So if you're doing a line, I'd say 'nothing is more important on this tattoo right now than the start and end of this line. So you're going from A to B'. That was my mantra to her throughout her whole apprenticeship... 'A to B'. If do that, take your time, you'll have a nice tattoo in no time. Thanks again for watching!
Jono I made my day u always bring me to the next level I am so happy to see the results of my practice I did my first job Tattooing for money and all is up to you bro I bring my style to the next level it doesn't hurts to much the costumer is happy and the ink is still under the skin after the healing process thanks for being my teacher for the last 2Years U are great greetings from Berlin city Europe Germany and send you much love from the bottom of my heart
All your videos have been major help.started a apprenticeship then owner had some financial problems so after 5 months into it the shop closed its doors and the rest I've been "self teaching" myself.i was taught the basics but mainly no tips n tricks that I've learned on this channel so thanks and I'll always watch!keep up the great videos 📹🤘
I don’t know if this technique also applies to permanent makeup in all the same ways. What angle do you hold your pen at when using this technique with shaders? I’ve heard 90, and also 45-60. Thank you!
Personally I always try to hold as near to 90 as possible but others will tell you 45. It all comes down to personal preference really and what works best for you.
I personally run constant, without having the ability to stop my machine for the water dip, I've found adding a drop of water or witch hazel to each ink cap thins the ink enough to flow nicely.
My second tattoo I got. An apprentice did it, and the dude who had been doing tattoos for 35 years kept telling her this, and she wouldn't listen, and it came out super patchy. I didnt remember quite what he said and have been looking for this info for years, and when I saw this everything came flooding back
I had that very problem this weekend, finally just said we were stopping, told them to go home and let it heal, and I would finish it out in a week or so, it was my daughter, she takes ink great on her arms, but this was on her back at the shoulder, it was like her skin just wouldn't take the ink.
this has been my issue since the beginning i was wondering what am i doing wrong u just enlightened me i will try this on my koi that im working on my leg
Jono smith thanks a lot homie ...I do a lot of black & grey but I am about to do a color piece in about an hour so I'm grateful I came across this video ...
Did this technique in the context of a blackout sleeve. It worked beautifully. Thank you for the tip👍made a world of difference. I did 2 layers and saw a difference from the first to second. But still major blotchiness. But I added a layer using this small tip and it made a world of difference
Thank you ! I have been taught by an tattoo artist in my country. And he told me it all wrong. I actually got furious right now. Because wrong info could give someone a real trouble with their skin. And that is the thing I've never wanted to do.
Does this mean I have to provide each cup for each color? Because if i am using one cup water for dipping. It may messed up the mixture in the tip if im changing the color. Enlighten me please. Im just a newbie
Mos TV I find 2 cups are more than enough. Use one for rinsing between colour changing (so a dirty cup) then one to use the dip technique. If you do this, the dipping cup won’t effect your colours.
Heey! thank you so much for this video, its really helpful! I was wondering, would it also work to put a drop of water in the cup instead of dipping the tattoo machine in the cup of water all the time?
My confidence was seriously suffering. My mentor had to fix one of my tattoos cause I did scar someone up and colour fell out. My black and grey is good, my colour isn't. Thank you so much, I'm going to try this out on myself next time
besides of me making always questions, i think i might be able to give something back. so i noticed lately something pretty cool into color packing. i used to always make circle motions, they do help with some colors but to lighter colours, i started to have so issues. now i tried to make a pushing motion straight forward away from me holding my machine more of an angle trying to lift up the skin and shove in underneath, like the same action you would remove the snow from your front door with the shovel. i found this technic accidentally by packing a lighter green wich i find a tricky color but found it instand sucsesfull. maybe someone try this out and let me know how this worked out?? :D
That pushing technique or scratching the skin is one that I use and were told to do, it works perfect for me, especially for shading, you can get some pretty smooth shades, so yeah, keep pushing :D. But I'm struggling with full color packing, so that's why I'm here... even if I use circle motions or pushing magnum forward the skin, the result doesn't look good. I use World famous inks and I don't have any problem with round shader for really small areas of skin, but coloring with magnum is hell to me :D
@@JonoSmithTattoo being a bit more specific with my issue. I have the issue of one time I'll have week blotchy blacks or it will be over worked an gets a bit scabby. I've watched your video all about liner set up can you do one specific to color pack set up. If you dont already that is.
Alyx Smith it’s hard to tell you the exact volts because every machine runs differently and depends if you’re using a coil or rotary plus there’s hand speed to consider but basically you should be aiming for around 100 cps for colour packing whatever machine you use. I cover this some of my videos. The main ones are ‘How to tune a tattoo machine’ and also ‘Tattoo machine What voltage?’. Hope this helps and thanks for watching!
My husband nags me to tattoo him and I keep telling him I am not a tattoo artist and just because I can draw and paint doesn't mean jack when tattooing, but I have given him a few because I am always willing to try something new some came out awesome for someone with no experience and others...well once again no experience lol. Ty for this because once again he is nagging and now I am actually looking forward to trying this out. If it works I can go back and recolor some of the others and smooth them out. :)
Just subscribed to your channel. Nice video's man, thank you. I've learned more from you then from my master back in my 1st year as an apprentice. I had alot i've had to learn on my own, which i did, but this was one i sometimes struggled with. So thank you very much ;)
I have to wonder if some people just bleed more than others? My artist has been tattooing for 20 years and I have never been scarred by him, I do however bleed more than most people. He used to ask if I took anything or has consumed alcohol before our session. Every time the true answer is no. I will have bloom going down my leg but my tattoo heals great. Is he just being too rough? This really isn’t for anyone to answer I’m just killing time waiting for a friend
I only use this method for colour. For packing black I just run straight into the ink cup then into the skin. I don't use bottled water. I've seen people at conventions using it but I always use distilled. Thanks for watching!
@Jono Smith bro, this video is 3 years old but the knowledge is endless. Great video as always thanks for sharing all your knowledge I think it's awesome for you to educate and also then demonstrate. I'm in newer subscriber but I'm working my way though your content.
Donnie Rusk welcome to the channel! Yeah my older videos are looking a bit tired compared to the newer ones now but the info is still there. Thanks for watching!
as Ive been doing more color pieces Ive come to not favor circling to pack color and use more of an over lapping shovel motion with a 13 mag, you only need to hit the area once sometimes twice depending on the saturation Im trying to get, the only time I do "circling" is when Im using a shader and even then I whip shade to blend out shadows
Another amazing video mate (Y) Do you prefer this techniques with thick pigments right? Like dynamic, star bright are already thin so i think they don't need it
I don't use this method for black, only colour. I use Dynamic black ink. The only colours I use are Fusion so I use the dipping in water technique. I've never used Star Bright but I suppose if they are really thin and seem to saturate without dipping then there's no need to do it. Thanks for watching. Got loads more videos coming soon.
I've never tried them purely because I'm really comfortable with standard needles. I've heard pros & cons about textured needles causing more trauma to the skin than standard needles.
Hey thanks dude, I just tried this technique last night on a color piece and it worked great with some of the thicker pigments. I use Fusion ink and it definitely helped with packing speed and consistency .
yoo here i am again @jono smith, i have a weird problem, looks like i'm going to make questions for ever. i have trouble color packing the mid tone grey, heres the thing.. when i pack it it tends to turn pink all over the place, and it gets very hard to see where i made it saturated so i end up making max a second pass. it is not overworked but it does really look like it has had some damage.... it is really weird and most weird of all is that they heal really good (its just not very appealing for the foto) and the effect is like there is blood trapped in the skin/color, i have this effect also with gold yellow(more blood places vissable) also with orange a bit, and green, all the other colors go very well, the bloodplaces effect tend to stay only one day, next day i'm getting pictures of perfect tattoos and the blood spots effect is all gone.... my mentor does not know advice, and neither do i, i do pack my colors at 9Volts with a direct drive, wich can very maybe be the cause(the 9v) my mentor does not know advice for me in this one. maybe you can vissit my page on facebook, ritchie stones tattoos, there you can see one upload ( the hourglass) where the sand is gold yellow. there you can see that bloodspot man, and mayebe take a look at the other pictures aswell since i learned a lot from you man;)
Hi Ritchie. That's a great question actually & I might be able to help you with this. Firstly with colours like yellows & oranges, you will always see more spots of blood than you would using dark cold colours like blues & purples. I've just checked out your page and seen the hourglass (very nice). Now if you're getting loads of blood spots that don't wipe away when you wipe down the skin at the end it could be that your machine is hitting a little bit too hard. I'm assuming your machine has no 'give' being as it's a direct drive. So you can make a little 'give' by not stretching the skin as much as usual. Only a tiny bit less stretch than usual will make the needles hit the skin softer and in turn be less harsh. Secondly if you use a product like 'Intenze Cleanze' to wipe down with, it makes a huge difference than just using water as it has ingredients that cool the skin down and make it less red as well as being really good at removing the blood spots. I've got a small review of this product on my videos. All this applies the same for the greywash too. If you're struggling to get the right shade before the skin is overworked then consider going in with a slightly darker tone at the beginning. Hope this helps and keep up the good work!
this might make sence man, before i packed grey with my cheyenne pen (soft hitter) now i use lithuanian irons( it litterly pushes a 18Rl through a wooden board) "seen it on a video" it did infact felt like the skin has some suffering, i wil try this stretch, and also maybe lowering my volts with lighter colors. and i do clean the skin with the foams, ( i use the one from killer ink) i can try the intenze cleanze, but i think they are the same. my mentor use the intenze one. thanks for the advice man!! and i will try this!!!
Great video,,, just found your channel and so far love the vids I have seen so far,, there super helpful and you have a great way of explaining things, keep up the great work. Subscribed :)
Some people use it as it has natural anti-inflammatory & skin healing properties so the theory is, it keeps the skin less red when using it but I personally just use distilled water. There's no real difference with regards to the tattoo result whether you use witch hazel or distilled water in my opinion. Thanks for watching.
i have this olive green from radiant ink and it just wont stay on the skin. I went over it twice at 8 volts small circles with not causing to much trauma, also noticed that the ink when it seats the top layer is live darkn green once i shake it up it gets its color back weird
If the ink doesn't seem to go into the skin very well make sure your machine is hitting hard (like it runs for lining) and maybe turn the volts up a bit. This will probably sort out your problem. I have used inks in the past where certain colours just won't take to the skin. An example of this would be 'Key Lime' by Fusion. It just doesn't work for me. So I used a similar colour from Eternal and it worked perfectly. So if you can't get on with it, maybe switch to another manufacturer. You don't need to switch every single ink you own. I use Fusion 90% of the time but sometimes I do use other inks as well. To answer your question about the ink separating. That's just what ink does when it's left to sit. That's why you need to give it a good shake before every use. Hope this helps. Thanks for watching.
will it cause more trauma to the skin if i go for shorter throw like a liner? also i do a very tight eight circle for lining and an open eight circle on the nipple for shading/ color as my reference.
Thanks for the comment. Much appreciated. I think if you actually understand 'why' you're doing something and rather than just because somebody has shown you, then it puts you in a much better position. That's why I use a lot of analogies.
Many thanks man, Your advice is very useful Because I am now a beginner And I try to learn as much as I can about tattooing from the advice of professionals!
The way my mouth dropped when I realized the simple difference I need to make to achieve better saturation in my Color packing. I feel like an idiot but thank you sooooo much for this video
Hey man I've been watching your channel for a couple of weeks and I really appreciate the way you explain your process. The first reason I subscribed to your channel is because your left handed as am I. Does tattooing left handed handicap us in anyway?? I would love to here your opinion on the matter.
Hi Bruce, I personally don't find being left handed hinders tattooing in any way. The only difference between a right handed person would be that I generally approach a tattoo from the bottom left of the design where as a right handed person would most likely approach it from the bottom right as to avoid smudging the stencil. I also hear left handed people are more creative haha. Thanks for subscribing & watching. Got loads more videos coming soon!
Jono Smith and you mentioned you never do this with black lower in the comments. I’m using black for a part of the design. The whole inside of the wing. Would it have a bad effect?
Also if you use witch hazel instead of water or even better, a special solution (Intenze’s ones I use) the color lasts longer. Also I learned that making pendulum movements works better for color packing, not lifting that much so it’s not shaded
Also, try not to use a really high voltage so you don’t hurt de skin. The best advice though, is to practice and find the way that works the best for you
Hi I only ever use distilled water in my rinse cups. I use Intenze Cleanze green soap for wiping down during tattooing and also use Sorry Mom tattoo cleanser at the end of a job just to freshen up the area and get rid of all the surface ink on the skin. I do know some people use green soap in their rinse cups. I suppose it's like everything involved with tattooing, it's all down to personal preference. Thanks for watching.
It is a good tip,but it runs only when you knows how it works.Every Tattoo Ink is different against the other Brands.You must train some Tattoo Inks before you knows how its perfect.
Brush for painting it's not tattoo needle-this is 1st lesson,2nd lesson it's- Everyone Tattoo artis must find own technique(lining,shading and color packing-beacause machines it's different-like a Cheyenne Thunder vs Inkmachines Dragonfly) and find style(1st artist feels good with Realism,2nd Artist feels good with Oldschool/Neotraditional) ! Finally- Tattoo Profession it's like a life-still practice-new equpiment-new experience :)
This little bit of info has taken my color packing to a new level! Thanks a million brother!!
Well I’m definitely gonna try this my skills only lack color packing,,, soo guys whos want a free tatt??
This is the type of information stuck up artists don’t want to share. Thank you for an honest contribution. Can you do a video on fanning analogous colors? Any suggestions? Thanks
Just wanna say this video helped me tremendously. Ive been struggling color packing and my confidence just kept going down and down; so I immediately tried this method and it was some of the best color packing Ive done. I know you hear this a lot but as an apprentice, you don’t know how grateful I am for all the videos you put out.
Great tip, I was taught to drip 1 drop of distilled water into my ink cup for this same reason...
Dddduuudddeeeee!!!! I've been doing it from home for a year now, and when i have big areas i tend to do those circles n its frustrating. thnx so so so so much my color has improved vastly
I'm glad it's helped you out. Got loads more videos coming soon. Thanks for watching!
Jono Smith although im guilty as charged ridin the tube. although i have begin to allow more needle to come through the tube, n it makes for a cleaner work area (ink not everywhere) lol ur awesome buddy, what can i do to get over my nerves to float the needle, I'm confident but in the back of my mind i fear messing someone up, (knock on wood) so far so good... lol
It's a really good question actually. I remember asking my mentor, one year into opening my own studio, 'how do I get over my nerves'. Which is similar to what you're asking. I'd literally hardly sleep before a big job. I'd be nervous as hell on the day of the big job, to the point where I'd sometimes feel physically sick when the client arrived. It seems to be a shared condition amongst many tattooists in the beginning. My mentor told me he's been in the business 30+ years and still sometimes gets nervous. I think getting nervous about a particular aspect of your work (in your case, 'floating the tube') shows you actually care about your work. It shows you actually care enough about the job you're about to do. I've found the best way of dealing with it is to push yourself a little bit further whenever possible. Take yourself out of your comfort zone and float the tube. It's the only way you'll progress. At the time you'll most likely feel quite a lot of anxiety but afterwards you'll feel so much better. I personally feel tattooing is a constant learning progression. Almost every job I do, I'll learn something new. By taking yourself out of your comfort zone and having that little bit of self belief will surprise you. So the next tattoo you do, let your needle hang out, float the tube and really concentrate on the job at hand constantly checking your needle depth and you'll be surprised how quickly you adapt. Hope this helps. Good luck with it all.
Jono Smith thnx alot brother, u r very insightful. I have a back to do tomorrow minimal shading, but i will surely step.out of my comfort zone, and i also will look into practice skins. Thnx so much again so so much
Good luck with it. As I always tell my apprentice, don't look at the whole design. Just concentrate on the tiny piece you're actually tattooing at the time. So if you're doing a line, I'd say 'nothing is more important on this tattoo right now than the start and end of this line. So you're going from A to B'. That was my mantra to her throughout her whole apprenticeship... 'A to B'. If do that, take your time, you'll have a nice tattoo in no time. Thanks again for watching!
Yeah man your a good teacher. Wouldn’t mind seeing a video from you about stroke characteristics and give. Thanks man
Jono I made my day u always bring me to the next level I am so happy to see the results of my practice I did my first job Tattooing for money and all is up to you bro I bring my style to the next level it doesn't hurts to much the costumer is happy and the ink is still under the skin after the healing process thanks for being my teacher for the last 2Years U are great greetings from Berlin city Europe Germany and send you much love from the bottom of my heart
Wow thanks for the amazing comment! Thanks for your continued support of the channel! 😁
Being a beginner im glad I've never made this mistake. Thanks for the tips brotherman!🤘🏻🤘🏻
All your videos have been major help.started a apprenticeship then owner had some financial problems so after 5 months into it the shop closed its doors and the rest I've been "self teaching" myself.i was taught the basics but mainly no tips n tricks that I've learned on this channel so thanks and I'll always watch!keep up the great videos 📹🤘
Thanks for the great feedback!
I watched this before a little piece I made and it worked so well. Thank you for sharing this knowledge.
I don’t know if this technique also applies to permanent makeup in all the same ways. What angle do you hold your pen at when using this technique with shaders? I’ve heard 90, and also 45-60. Thank you!
Personally I always try to hold as near to 90 as possible but others will tell you 45. It all comes down to personal preference really and what works best for you.
@@JonoSmithTattoo Thank you! I think 90 would be best since any other angle would have the needles going in at different depths when using shaders.
I personally run constant, without having the ability to stop my machine for the water dip, I've found adding a drop of water or witch hazel to each ink cap thins the ink enough to flow nicely.
Definitely going to try this with the ultra thick dynamic white ink I bought a few days ago that I couldn’t get to take.
Hey , thanks!
Is it working also with black n grey shading?
My second tattoo I got. An apprentice did it, and the dude who had been doing tattoos for 35 years kept telling her this, and she wouldn't listen, and it came out super patchy. I didnt remember quite what he said and have been looking for this info for years, and when I saw this everything came flooding back
I had that very problem this weekend, finally just said we were stopping, told them to go home and let it heal, and I would finish it out in a week or so, it was my daughter, she takes ink great on her arms, but this was on her back at the shoulder, it was like her skin just wouldn't take the ink.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge can this technique be used to pack in black faster and better in blackout tattoos
Jairo Rivera this technique would turn black into a grey wash by diluting it. I wouldn’t use this technique for solid black. Thanks for watching!
this has been my issue since the beginning i was wondering what am i doing wrong u just enlightened me i will try this on my koi that im working on my leg
Also trying this for the first time on my koi
Thanks for the video, I’m currently working on my apprenticeship and this is one of the things I struggle with and this helped out a lot ❤️
You’re welcome. Good luck with your apprenticeship!
Jono smith thanks a lot homie ...I do a lot of black & grey but I am about to do a color piece in about an hour so I'm grateful I came across this video ...
You’re welcome dude. Hope this video helps you out!
Did this technique in the context of a blackout sleeve. It worked beautifully. Thank you for the tip👍made a world of difference. I did 2 layers and saw a difference from the first to second. But still major blotchiness. But I added a layer using this small tip and it made a world of difference
Thanks for the feedback. Glad it helped.
Jono Smith no problem
thats a great tip do you have any tips for solid black packing ?
Black Lilith nice tight circles, good stretch, quality ink and don’t deep into water like you do for colour. Thanks for watching!
Thank you ! I have been taught by an tattoo artist in my country. And he told me it all wrong. I actually got furious right now. Because wrong info could give someone a real trouble with their skin. And that is the thing I've never wanted to do.
Can you do a video on tuning a coil machine for lining specifically?
Sure I'll add it to my list.
Does this mean I have to provide each cup for each color?
Because if i am using one cup water for dipping.
It may messed up the mixture in the tip if im changing the color.
Enlighten me please. Im just a newbie
Mos TV I find 2 cups are more than enough. Use one for rinsing between colour changing (so a dirty cup) then one to use the dip technique. If you do this, the dipping cup won’t effect your colours.
@@JonoSmithTattoo thank you. I appreciate your response. Peace and Happiness ✌️
Can u please tell which dilluter or water did u use... and doesn't it cause any allergy on skin
I use distilled water mixed with Intenze Cleanz which is a green soap. It doesn’t cause allergies or irritation.
@@JonoSmithTattoo thanku soo much for the reply sir.. can u please tell the quantity
Heey! thank you so much for this video, its really helpful! I was wondering, would it also work to put a drop of water in the cup instead of dipping the tattoo machine in the cup of water all the time?
Here is an example of something after years of tattooing that I've never heard but these are the tricks I love to learn
What a great attitude you’ve got! Thanks for watching!
My confidence was seriously suffering. My mentor had to fix one of my tattoos cause I did scar someone up and colour fell out. My black and grey is good, my colour isn't.
Thank you so much, I'm going to try this out on myself next time
besides of me making always questions, i think i might be able to give something back.
so i noticed lately something pretty cool into color packing.
i used to always make circle motions, they do help with some colors
but to lighter colours, i started to have so issues.
now i tried to make a pushing motion straight forward away from me holding my machine more of an angle
trying to lift up the skin and shove in underneath, like the same action you would remove the snow from your front door with the shovel.
i found this technic accidentally by packing a lighter green wich i find a tricky color but found it instand sucsesfull.
maybe someone try this out and let me know how this worked out?? :D
That pushing technique or scratching the skin is one that I use and were told to do, it works perfect for me, especially for shading, you can get some pretty smooth shades, so yeah, keep pushing :D. But I'm struggling with full color packing, so that's why I'm here... even if I use circle motions or pushing magnum forward the skin, the result doesn't look good. I use World famous inks and I don't have any problem with round shader for really small areas of skin, but coloring with magnum is hell to me :D
I can not wait to try this. I usually have pretty decent packing but some people just dont wanna take at all. Thank you for this bit of info.
My next video is all about packing solid black. This video was made a while ago now and is looking a bit tired. Thanks for watching!
@@JonoSmithTattoo being a bit more specific with my issue. I have the issue of one time I'll have week blotchy blacks or it will be over worked an gets a bit scabby. I've watched your video all about liner set up can you do one specific to color pack set up. If you dont already that is.
Def found this to be a great help! Way to break it down into a way that ANYONE should be able to understand! Thumbs up & subscribed!
Jaxson Goldys Thanks bro I appreciate that!
Will be trying this on my next practice! Great tip
Thanksss Alot🙏🏾 This tiny Bit Of Info Helped ally& basically Explain What I Was Doing Wrong
This was sooo helpful. I usually turn down color tattoos but this helped tremendously. What voltage do you recommend for color packing?
Alyx Smith it’s hard to tell you the exact volts because every machine runs differently and depends if you’re using a coil or rotary plus there’s hand speed to consider but basically you should be aiming for around 100 cps for colour packing whatever machine you use. I cover this some of my videos. The main ones are ‘How to tune a tattoo machine’ and also ‘Tattoo machine What voltage?’. Hope this helps and thanks for watching!
Jono Smith great! I will be sure to watch those today. Thank you again !
Nice video thank for the tip does this trick with water apply to doing black and grey work as well
seth spears you can dip black into water to create a grey wash but don’t do it if you want solid black.
@@JonoSmithTattoo thank you for the advice and I really like your videos I've learned a bunch from them
very good info i will remember this working with thick inks..thanks a bunch..
Nice teaching bro
Good tip 👍
Very helpful
Roshan Renjith thanks for watching!
Great tip! Really helping me along as a beginner, thanks!
My husband nags me to tattoo him and I keep telling him I am not a tattoo artist and just because I can draw and paint doesn't mean jack when tattooing, but I have given him a few because I am always willing to try something new some came out awesome for someone with no experience and others...well once again no experience lol. Ty for this because once again he is nagging and now I am actually looking forward to trying this out. If it works I can go back and recolor some of the others and smooth them out. :)
Does this principle works for black ink?
multiresident1 no if you dip black ink it will dilute it into a grey wash.
when you are dipping into the water, is the machine running or not?
No because it will kick out all your ink into the water.
that's what I thought but I had to have that clarified. thank you.
This is definitely helpful man... thank you very much for this amazing tips 👍🏼 keep sharing brother 🖤
Thanks for watching! Got loads more on the way.
Appreciate it man 👍🏼🤘🏽
Im just wondering if u will not dilute colour when you doing this?.cos u only dip very shortly into water bt still..
Amazing video, great information, thank you
Just subscribed to your channel. Nice video's man, thank you. I've learned more from you then from my master back in my 1st year as an apprentice. I had alot i've had to learn on my own, which i did, but this was one i sometimes struggled with. So thank you very much ;)
Thanks I appreciate that. Got lots more videos on the way soon.
Love your tutorials. Do I get the same result if I drop 1 drop of mixing solution? I use intenze. Thanks a lot
Yes absolutely. Just substitute the distilled water for mixing solution for the same results. Thanks for the great feedback & for watching!
Jono Smith thank for the answer. Make more Tattoo tutorials please, exhaustive like this ;) thanks a lot
Beautiful analogy
Good work man good analogies
I just seen your analogy on color packing. first.thank you for that,and i will try it today (thanks again.
Good luck with it.
I have to wonder if some people just bleed more than others?
My artist has been tattooing for 20 years and I have never been scarred by him, I do however bleed more than most people. He used to ask if I took anything or has consumed alcohol before our session. Every time the true answer is no. I will have bloom going down my leg but my tattoo heals great.
Is he just being too rough?
This really isn’t for anyone to answer I’m just killing time waiting for a friend
Your videos are so great. They are on the point. Learning a lot from you. Cheers!
Thanks for the great feedback! Got loads more on the way!
Can i use this technique in black ink as well? Will it work like this?
No this won’t work with black. If you dip Black it will make a grey wash. Hank’s for watching!
Is this principal can use for black packing also??does bottle water ok for this??
I only use this method for colour. For packing black I just run straight into the ink cup then into the skin. I don't use bottled water. I've seen people at conventions using it but I always use distilled. Thanks for watching!
@Jono Smith bro, this video is 3 years old but the knowledge is endless. Great video as always thanks for sharing all your knowledge I think it's awesome for you to educate and also then demonstrate. I'm in newer subscriber but I'm working my way though your content.
Donnie Rusk welcome to the channel! Yeah my older videos are looking a bit tired compared to the newer ones now but the info is still there. Thanks for watching!
as Ive been doing more color pieces Ive come to not favor circling to pack color and use more of an over lapping shovel motion with a 13 mag, you only need to hit the area once sometimes twice depending on the saturation Im trying to get, the only time I do "circling" is when Im using a shader and even then I whip shade to blend out shadows
Another amazing video mate (Y)
Do you prefer this techniques with thick pigments right? Like dynamic, star bright are already thin so i think they don't need it
I don't use this method for black, only colour. I use Dynamic black ink. The only colours I use are Fusion so I use the dipping in water technique. I've never used Star Bright but I suppose if they are really thin and seem to saturate without dipping then there's no need to do it. Thanks for watching. Got loads more videos coming soon.
Thank you so much for videos. Have you ever tried textured needles? Are they better for color packing ?
I've never tried them purely because I'm really comfortable with standard needles. I've heard pros & cons about textured needles causing more trauma to the skin than standard needles.
Jono Smith thanks for advice 👍🏼😊
Hey thanks dude, I just tried this technique last night on a color piece and it worked great with some of the thicker pigments. I use Fusion ink and it definitely helped with packing speed and consistency .
Thanks for the comment dude. Glad it helped you out.
Does the same apply for black ink? Wanting to get a solid consistent black area covered would it have the same effect?
No it only works for colour. Don’t dip into water with black because you’ll make a greywash instead of solid black.
Can you use this technique with a thin ink??
If it’s really thin then I’d probably just go from the ink pot to the skin and leave the water out.
How about putting some sterile water directly to the inks(in inkcups), is that the same?
rap mamori not really that would dilute them too much. People do use that method when making greywash though.
yoo here i am again @jono smith, i have a weird problem, looks like i'm going to make questions for ever.
i have trouble color packing the mid tone grey, heres the thing.. when i pack it it tends to turn pink all over the place, and it gets very hard to see where i made it saturated so i end up making max a second pass. it is not overworked but it does really look like it has had some damage.... it is really weird and most weird of all is that they heal really good (its just not very appealing for the foto) and the effect is like there is blood trapped in the skin/color, i have this effect also with gold yellow(more blood places vissable) also with orange a bit, and green, all the other colors go very well, the bloodplaces effect tend to stay only one day, next day i'm getting pictures of perfect tattoos and the blood spots effect is all gone.... my mentor does not know advice, and neither do i,
i do pack my colors at 9Volts with a direct drive, wich can very maybe be the cause(the 9v) my mentor does not know advice for me in this one.
maybe you can vissit my page on facebook, ritchie stones tattoos, there you can see one upload ( the hourglass) where the sand is gold yellow. there you can see that bloodspot man, and mayebe take a look at the other pictures aswell since i learned a lot from you man;)
Hi Ritchie. That's a great question actually & I might be able to help you with this. Firstly with colours like yellows & oranges, you will always see more spots of blood than you would using dark cold colours like blues & purples. I've just checked out your page and seen the hourglass (very nice). Now if you're getting loads of blood spots that don't wipe away when you wipe down the skin at the end it could be that your machine is hitting a little bit too hard. I'm assuming your machine has no 'give' being as it's a direct drive. So you can make a little 'give' by not stretching the skin as much as usual. Only a tiny bit less stretch than usual will make the needles hit the skin softer and in turn be less harsh. Secondly if you use a product like 'Intenze Cleanze' to wipe down with, it makes a huge difference than just using water as it has ingredients that cool the skin down and make it less red as well as being really good at removing the blood spots. I've got a small review of this product on my videos. All this applies the same for the greywash too. If you're struggling to get the right shade before the skin is overworked then consider going in with a slightly darker tone at the beginning. Hope this helps and keep up the good work!
this might make sence man, before i packed grey with my cheyenne pen (soft hitter) now i use lithuanian irons( it litterly pushes a 18Rl through a wooden board) "seen it on a video" it did infact felt like the skin has some suffering, i wil try this stretch, and also maybe lowering my volts with lighter colors.
and i do clean the skin with the foams, ( i use the one from killer ink) i can try the intenze cleanze, but i think they are the same. my mentor use the intenze one.
thanks for the advice man!! and i will try this!!!
Great video,,, just found your channel and so far love the vids I have seen so far,, there super helpful and you have a great way of explaining things, keep up the great work. Subscribed :)
Thanks bro I really appreciate that. Got loads of videos in the pipeline coming soon.
Jono Smith do you have an email I can contact you at with a few questions I have?
Just ask away and I'll do my best to answer you.
I have seen some artist use wich hazel, can this be correct? If yes whats the difference? Thank you x
Some people use it as it has natural anti-inflammatory & skin healing properties so the theory is, it keeps the skin less red when using it but I personally just use distilled water. There's no real difference with regards to the tattoo result whether you use witch hazel or distilled water in my opinion. Thanks for watching.
Jono Smith thx
i have this olive green from radiant ink and it just wont stay on the skin. I went over it twice at 8 volts small circles with not causing to much trauma, also noticed that the ink when it seats the top layer is live darkn green once i shake it up it gets its color back weird
If the ink doesn't seem to go into the skin very well make sure your machine is hitting hard (like it runs for lining) and maybe turn the volts up a bit. This will probably sort out your problem. I have used inks in the past where certain colours just won't take to the skin. An example of this would be 'Key Lime' by Fusion. It just doesn't work for me. So I used a similar colour from Eternal and it worked perfectly. So if you can't get on with it, maybe switch to another manufacturer. You don't need to switch every single ink you own. I use Fusion 90% of the time but sometimes I do use other inks as well. To answer your question about the ink separating. That's just what ink does when it's left to sit. That's why you need to give it a good shake before every use. Hope this helps. Thanks for watching.
will it cause more trauma to the skin if i go for shorter throw like a liner? also i do a very tight eight circle for lining and an open eight circle on the nipple for shading/ color as my reference.
Don't use a shorter throw just make the machine hit a little harder and you'll find the ink goes on a lot more solid.
i love your analogys. thanks you so much. I understand better that way.
Thanks for the comment. Much appreciated. I think if you actually understand 'why' you're doing something and rather than just because somebody has shown you, then it puts you in a much better position. That's why I use a lot of analogies.
VERY GOOD INFO!! SUPERB INFO!!! OUTSTANDING INFO!!! MAGNIFICENT INFORMATION !! EXCELLENT!!!!
Thanks for the great feedback!
hi Jono, what needle u use for make a full black tribal tattoo?
tnx
Personally I'd use either a 10-11-RL or a 12-09-RL to line it with and then use a 10-11-CM to fill it with.
so u use Round Liner & C-Magnum?
Yes, either or those liners to line it with and the mag to fill it.
Many thanks man, Your advice is very useful Because I am now a beginner And I try to learn as much as I can about tattooing from the advice of professionals!
Wow, its really that simple.. thank u for sharing ur knowledge👍🏼
The way my mouth dropped when I realized the simple difference I need to make to achieve better saturation in my Color packing. I feel like an idiot but thank you sooooo much for this video
Good video and thank you for this video gonna help me a lot...TATTOOS 4 LIFE under ground studio
What would you use a 12flat for..???
Personally I don’t use flats. They tend to act like razor blades and slice the skin.
Hey man I've been watching your channel for a couple of weeks and I really appreciate the way you explain your process. The first reason I subscribed to your channel is because your left handed as am I. Does tattooing left handed handicap us in anyway?? I would love to here your opinion on the matter.
Hi Bruce, I personally don't find being left handed hinders tattooing in any way. The only difference between a right handed person would be that I generally approach a tattoo from the bottom left of the design where as a right handed person would most likely approach it from the bottom right as to avoid smudging the stencil. I also hear left handed people are more creative haha. Thanks for subscribing & watching. Got loads more videos coming soon!
Would you say mom’s ink is good. Like would the technique work for this brand?
I've never used moms ink but because it's a leading brand I wouldn't guess they'd be any issues with it.
Jono Smith and you mentioned you never do this with black lower in the comments. I’m using black for a part of the design. The whole inside of the wing. Would it have a bad effect?
Thanks for the time you put to teach everyone out here. Much appreciated 😏
Also if you use witch hazel instead of water or even better, a special solution (Intenze’s ones I use) the color lasts longer. Also I learned that making pendulum movements works better for color packing, not lifting that much so it’s not shaded
Also, try not to use a really high voltage so you don’t hurt de skin. The best advice though, is to practice and find the way that works the best for you
do u use clean water for each color or is that a dumb question?
I usually have 2 cups of distilled water. One for rinsing and one for dipping. That's all you really need.
Such a great explanation thank you
Thanks for watching!
Is thr any side effects if water get injected into skin along with inks......
No as long as you use distilled water. Obviously if we're to use water that's contaminated then that could result in infection.
Do u use standard mags or big pins to pack color?
I always use double-zeros now or ‘10s’ as they’re also known.
Awesome thank u so much for the information and videos. I know it takes a lot of time but just know you are greatly appreciated my friend!
Nice advise, really appreciated😀
Evening Jono, can i ask what you use in you rinse cup? Iv been using distilled water but see a few people use diluted green soap?
Hi I only ever use distilled water in my rinse cups. I use Intenze Cleanze green soap for wiping down during tattooing and also use Sorry Mom tattoo cleanser at the end of a job just to freshen up the area and get rid of all the surface ink on the skin. I do know some people use green soap in their rinse cups. I suppose it's like everything involved with tattooing, it's all down to personal preference. Thanks for watching.
Thanks once again for the valuable info Jono! Very much appreciated!
Good info but Wouldn’t it be better to just add a tad bit of water to your ink cap? Instead of dipping in and out the cup
This is a great analogy.
Thanks bro I appreciate that. Got loads more on the way.
Could you not just add a tiny bit of water into the ink cup to dilute it? Save you turning machine off every time you need some ink?
Thank you so much u taught me really important lesson.im in your Debt
REAL INFO. Ty greatly appreciated keep it up👍
great tutorial
Just two words wow! Thanks!
It is a good tip,but it runs only when you knows how it works.Every Tattoo Ink is different against the other Brands.You must train some Tattoo Inks before you knows how its perfect.
Thank you so much for sharing this.
Brush for painting it's not tattoo needle-this is 1st lesson,2nd lesson it's- Everyone Tattoo artis must find own technique(lining,shading and color packing-beacause machines it's different-like a Cheyenne Thunder vs Inkmachines Dragonfly) and find style(1st artist feels good with Realism,2nd Artist feels good with Oldschool/Neotraditional) ! Finally- Tattoo Profession it's like a life-still practice-new equpiment-new experience :)
Thank you sir its very helpful tip..👍
Awesome 🇨🇦👍
Thanks!
Mmmmaaannn!!!! That's great, never thingking about it before, thanks bro...it's just solve my problem for so damn long!!! Good video broo
Thanks. I really appreciate that & glad it's helped you out. I've got loads of new videos on the way!
Super dope!!!!
Thank you for this.....
Thank you so much
great tip thanks 😀