It is CRIMINAL that they’ve removed spirals as a required element. Some of the most exquisite spirals in this video, thank you for this! It will always be Sasha Cohen and Mao Asada for me!! And Jason Brown’s is awesome too!
All are nice.But I love Michelle,Sasha Cohen and Mao’s in particular. Michelle has the speed,ice coverage and delivery.Mao has the stunning position,flexibility and difficulty for holding a fan spiral.Sasha Cohen just has everything about a great spiral.
@@autumnleaves5973 skaters still do spirals today. And if every single skater still did a 10 seconds spiral, people would find it boring and repetitive. You only like it because it has become rarer.
Of course, Michelle Kwan. Change of edge spiral is Michelle's signature move. I also enjoy Michelle's Charlotte spiral, when her finger touched the ice just like a kiss. ❤
LOVELY Video! Thank you so much for the compliation! A great spiral is so difficult. Would love it if they brought it back with a high base value too. I do like a good choreo sequence but dislike a lot of programs that have NO choreography EXCEPT the choreo. Choreography should be interwoven into a whole program!
Great you included Shawn Sawyer! His flexibility put most ladies to shame. 😅 Where's Carolina Kostner in this? 🤨 And what... In the name of Zamboni, is Kim Yuna doing here? This is not about triple lutz-triple toe, it is about beautiful spirals and hers were terrible. 🙄
@@dinh5532 Yet Michelle's spiral pales in beauty and impact when compared to Sasha's. Sasha's extension, amplitude, musicality, variety and control during spirals are second to none.
@@Pitorro_X Again, Sasha has the flexibility no question..even Bobek had it as well but they both cannot hold a candle to Michelle's because she had the steady edge, the inside and outside switch, as well as it being her signature...Michelle's falling leaf was also more iconic than Sasha's split jump.
@@e.i.3077 Actually, Michelle's spiral got better speed , ice cover, power, and balance than Sasha's. 👍 Change of edge spiral is Michelle's signature move. I also enjoy Michelle's Charlotte spiral, when her finger touched the ice just like a kiss. 🤩
Interesting to end with Yuna's, given that hers is famously controversial for having speed but less-than-pristine positions and extension. Was surprised at Ashley's quality. To this day there's never been one like Sasha's
They were time consuming, not worth a lot of points and most skaters did not do them well. Outside of the top 5% of the ladies the rest of the spirals were tedious to watch and poorly done. I think they replaced them with the Choreo Sequence to allow more creativity in expression and audience appeal.
@@singsongeric Honestly I think this change is for the best. People find it fascinating now because they don't see them that much anymore, but if they were to see them in every single program everyone would find it boring and repetitive. And besides, it's not as if spirals had completely disappeared. People just miss them because they're rare. Everything works like that.
@luigiheinemeneghim9234 they’re gone because the ISU chooses to heavily reward technical merit over artistic components. So now it’s all about jumps and nothing else, so it’s beyond boring. 🤷🏽♀️
Here are all of their names if that is what you are wondering :) ill add them to the description as well Sasha Cohen Caroline Zhang Nicole Bobek Michelle Kwan Alissa Czisny Mirai Nagasu Karen Chen Mao Asada Jason Brown Shizuka Arakawa Shawn Sawyer Michelle Kwan Bebe Liang Ashley Wagner Sasha Cohen Caroline Zhang Yuna Kim
Which of those were the highest valued/most difficult accordind to the code of points? I find spirals to be so fascinating but dont find much info about them :(
According to the code most of these would have gotten the max value. The basic formula for spiral sequence in the code is not difficult to achieve, most skaters were able to get level 4 even if it's not the best spiral ever. If I had to assess difficulty outside of just points, I would say Sasha's from 2010 and Shizuka's forward spiral were probably the hardest to do.
@@singsongeric oh i see... thats actually sad, maybe if ISU were more strict in the evaluation and had rewarded more points to difficulty in spiral sequences, maybe skaters could have come up with new, more difficult and creative spirals right? :(
Бір аяқтарын жердің үстінде тұрып көтере алмайтын, мұздың үстінде тұра алмайтын адамдардың мәнерлеп сырғанаудағы ең жоғарғы барлық атақтардың алғашқы иегерін сынап жатқандары күлкілі 😂😂😂😂😂😂 Because you are JEALOUS. Өздерің тіпті Ёна сияқты жасай алмайсыңдар ғой сол спиральді 😂😂😂😂😂😂 Ол сияқты жылдамдықта сырғанасаңдар өкпелерің өшіп қалар 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Кімсіңдер сендер Ёна Патшайымды сынайтын? 😂
Sasha cohen Romeo and Juliet spiral sequence always be my favorites
It is CRIMINAL that they’ve removed spirals as a required element. Some of the most exquisite spirals in this video, thank you for this! It will always be Sasha Cohen and Mao Asada for me!! And Jason Brown’s is awesome too!
All are nice.But I love Michelle,Sasha Cohen and Mao’s in particular.
Michelle has the speed,ice coverage and delivery.Mao has the stunning position,flexibility and difficulty for holding a fan spiral.Sasha Cohen just has everything about a great spiral.
クワンのスパイラルはチェンジエッジしても一切ぶれないところが地味に凄い。
It takes strength to hold a spiral for more than 3 seconds. It's not just an old-school flimsy element.
It’s kinda sad that they’re gone now, some spirals were so beautiful
Rules have changed, there's a lot of modern aspects of figure skating I would miss in 2000's too🤷♀
@@Nuneliisurely there could be a compromise?
Why they dont do it anymore?
Mao Asadaが得意だったからです。ISUはMaoに得点を取らせたくなくて、2012年にSprial S.を排除。羽生がSEIMEIを滑ると高得点を出すので、羽生にSEIMEI を滑らせないように、ルールに音楽がスタートすると同時に動くことを禁止 を追加したのと同じ理屈です。
@@autumnleaves5973 skaters still do spirals today. And if every single skater still did a 10 seconds spiral, people would find it boring and repetitive. You only like it because it has become rarer.
I do miss spiral sequences!
When skating has both beauty and magic.
Before russian ruined it.
Spirals were loved by the fans. They should have left them in as a required element. ONE of the things that killed the popularization of skating!
アメリカの選手は伝統的にスパイラルが上手ですよね
エッジコントロールが抜群なのと、身体のラインの魅せ方が上手ですよね。旧採点時代のアメリカ女子のレイバックも綺麗でした。
Of course, Michelle Kwan.
Change of edge spiral is Michelle's signature move.
I also enjoy Michelle's Charlotte spiral, when her finger touched the ice just like a kiss. ❤
Michelle spotlighted spirals as more than a throw away required element.
I love you snuck in Yuna Kim at the end lol! I wouldn't say spirals were her forte at all, but the rest of the examples were stellar
わかります😂
最後はオマケみたいなものですね！
@user-bk7pc2jc5n yes, it's a bonus ❤ The position is not good as Mao's 😍, but still ice coverage is lovely and it perfectly fits the music always ❤
She had one of the best ice coverage, speed, and use of edge.
These are more important than position(=flexibility).
the musicality of that section of her 2010 free skate was INSANE though!! i’d never felt so mesmerized lol
Spirals and split jumps are what I miss most in figure skating. I’m kinda sad you didn’t include Karolina Costner’s. Hers was one of my favorites.
04:00 Even her fingertips are acting... emotional.
スパイラルは女子の見どころだった。コレオなくしてスパイラルを戻してほしい。サーシャ・コーエンのスパイラルは素晴らしかった
本当に戻してほしいですよね。女子の誰もが3回転5種または6種を跳べるようになってきたのと同様に、みんなが同じレベルにたどり着いたのが早かったんですよね。競技である以上、上限に届き誰もが最高値を出してしまうものは競技性の観点から排除していくのは当然の摂理なのですが、芸術的観点としては本当にまた観たいですね。プロアイスショーで観ましょう。
サーシャの2010年全米選手権SPのスパイラルは女子史上最高のスパイラルだと思ってます！バレエジャンプからのアラベスクが圧巻でした
2008~2010 season was the hardest. have to maintain basic position about 6 seconds. lol
Damn the American women were killing it with these
I clicked on this before a minute
LOVELY Video! Thank you so much for the compliation! A great spiral is so difficult. Would love it if they brought it back with a high base value too. I do like a good choreo sequence but dislike a lot of programs that have NO choreography EXCEPT the choreo. Choreography should be interwoven into a whole program!
ここにはないけど浅田さんのボストンワールド蝶々夫人のスパイラルは本当に美しいと思った。
浅田さんのスパイラルは、若い頃は柔軟性は素晴らしいもののスピードちょっと微妙かな？ぐらい思ってたけど、どんどん上手くなって、白鳥の湖あたりからまさに芸術だった。
コレオじゃなくてスパイラルシークエンスでたっぷり見たかったな😢
話が逸れましたが、この動画だとミシェル・クワンのスパイラルがやはり一番好きです！素晴らしいスピードとポジションと笑顔の長洲さんのものも絶品ですね❤
スパイラルシークエンス復活させて、上手い選手に点つけてほしいなあ。スピードがあって、ポジションも美しく、チェンジエッジも上手くできる子、現役に何人ぐらいいるだろう…
三原選手のシンデレラを見てそれを思いました。
スピードのある中で体勢を崩さずにチェンジエッジするのってものすごく難しいんだなって。
@@tappudansuyanagi 私は舞依ちゃんのファンですし、彼女のスパイラルも好きな方なんですけど、ただあの舞依ちゃんでもチェンジエッジの時は多少グラついてるように見えるんですよね😅
現役後期の真央ちゃんのエッジワークは素晴らしいものがあったと思います。柔軟性の一点のみでスパイラルを持ち上げられがちな選手ですが、SpSq時代より後期の方がずっと上手いです。
@@ゆめ-x3r3t
ラフマニノフ ピアノ協奏曲第2番のラストのスパイラルなんて、あんなに体を捻ることができるのは柔らかさだけではない強さの裏付けですね。
I miss the spiral sequence. Sasha had the most impressive line… Michelle Kwan had the most impressive soul and presence behind it
Where are Carolina Kostner's? The most sharp edge and high-speed spirals.
Great list! I will subscribe.
omg tysm🎉I appreciate you and I'm so glad you liked the video!!
Great you included Shawn Sawyer! His flexibility put most ladies to shame. 😅 Where's Carolina Kostner in this? 🤨 And what... In the name of Zamboni, is Kim Yuna doing here? This is not about triple lutz-triple toe, it is about beautiful spirals and hers were terrible. 🙄
sasha cohen !!!! "she owns this move"
Eh, her flexibility is amazing but Michelle's hits the spot every time, her edge is stronger too.
@@dinh5532 Not as beautiful and impressive as Sasha's, hers had wow factor. Sasha is the poster child for spirals.
@@Pitorro_X Not really, sasha's edge is wobbly. Michelle made the inside outside spiral popular and people know her for that.
@@dinh5532 Yet Michelle's spiral pales in beauty and impact when compared to Sasha's. Sasha's extension, amplitude, musicality, variety and control during spirals are second to none.
@@Pitorro_X Again, Sasha has the flexibility no question..even Bobek had it as well but they both cannot hold a candle to Michelle's because she had the steady edge, the inside and outside switch, as well as it being her signature...Michelle's falling leaf was also more iconic than Sasha's split jump.
クワンのスパイラルのチェンジエッジだけで、どんぶり飯5杯食べられる
ここにはないけど三原さんのスパイラルも好き
ジェイソン・ブラウンのケリガンスパイラル美しくダイナミック！！！
真央ちゃん、クワンさんのスパイラル、綺麗だったな。ラスト、クワンさんで締めて欲しかった〜
ここには出てこないけど荒川静香がバックスパイラルでチェンジエッジしたのは驚いた
蝶々夫人と幻想即興曲ですね！
@@KK-tg4lqどのプログラムかはわすれましたが
バックスパイラルでチェンジエッジした人初めて見ました。
ノーマルポジションも頭が下がりすぎずとても美しいですよね
Yuna Kim's spirals were not well positioned at all, but she did have decent edges, I guess.
No one can touch Sasha Cohen when it comes to spirals 🔥
Russians can 😂😂😂
Just second to Michelle kwan.
@@TT-ee4qp Nah. Michelle was more popular but she didn’t have the stretch and perfect positions that Sasha did.
@@e.i.3077
Actually, Michelle's spiral got better speed , ice cover, power, and balance than Sasha's. 👍
Change of edge spiral is Michelle's signature move.
I also enjoy Michelle's Charlotte spiral, when her finger touched the ice just like a kiss. 🤩
Interesting to end with Yuna's, given that hers is famously controversial for having speed but less-than-pristine positions and extension. Was surprised at Ashley's quality. To this day there's never been one like Sasha's
3:08
すごいビッグネームばかりの中で急にベアトリサ・リャン（べべ・リャン）が出てきてびっくり&嬉しかった笑
スパイラルシークエンスの時にゆったりと音楽が流れていて好きだったな
コレオでチェンジエッジスパイラルやってる人今でもいるけど、みんなエッジ変更のタイミングでポジションぶれるよね。スパイラル必須だった時代の人達はやはり上手いですね。
クワンのスパイラルは氷の湖を喜んで滑る白鳥のよう。コーエンと真央はバレリーナのような美しさ
Why are spiral sequences gone,
Can someone explain?😢 Will they likely have a comeback?
They were time consuming, not worth a lot of points and most skaters did not do them well. Outside of the top 5% of the ladies the rest of the spirals were tedious to watch and poorly done. I think they replaced them with the Choreo Sequence to allow more creativity in expression and audience appeal.
@@singsongeric Honestly I think this change is for the best. People find it fascinating now because they don't see them that much anymore, but if they were to see them in every single program everyone would find it boring and repetitive. And besides, it's not as if spirals had completely disappeared. People just miss them because they're rare. Everything works like that.
@@Nunelii oh sure take out actual artistry in performances and let’s add more quads with piss poor technique LMAO your hot take is trash.
@@singsongerici see a lot of BAD choreo these days so taking away spirals didn’t resolve the issue 🤣
@luigiheinemeneghim9234 they’re gone because the ISU chooses to heavily reward technical merit over artistic components. So now it’s all about jumps and nothing else, so it’s beyond boring. 🤷🏽♀️
No one trumps Sasha before, during or after her time.
She skated under Michelle's shadow.
Michelle's spiral is better.....
선수들의 이름을 자막에 넣어주셔요 🙏
Here are all of their names if that is what you are wondering :) ill add them to the description as well
Sasha Cohen
Caroline Zhang
Nicole Bobek
Michelle Kwan
Alissa Czisny
Mirai Nagasu
Karen Chen
Mao Asada
Jason Brown
Shizuka Arakawa
Shawn Sawyer
Michelle Kwan
Bebe Liang
Ashley Wagner
Sasha Cohen
Caroline Zhang
Yuna Kim
❤❤❤
What is Tuna doing here? 😅
Атын дұрыстап жаз! Tuna емес Yuna! Because of the speed, musicality and ice coverage!
Which of those were the highest valued/most difficult accordind to the code of points? I find spirals to be so fascinating but dont find much info about them :(
According to the code most of these would have gotten the max value. The basic formula for spiral sequence in the code is not difficult to achieve, most skaters were able to get level 4 even if it's not the best spiral ever. If I had to assess difficulty outside of just points, I would say Sasha's from 2010 and Shizuka's forward spiral were probably the hardest to do.
@@singsongeric oh i see... thats actually sad, maybe if ISU were more strict in the evaluation and had rewarded more points to difficulty in spiral sequences, maybe skaters could have come up with new, more difficult and creative spirals right? :(
6秒ルールは好きじゃないけどスパイラルシークエンスは3秒以上はみたい
コレオシークエンスでもっともっと多用してほしい
1:50 ～演技されている選手のお名前を知りたいです😢
Karen Chen
クワンコーエンシズニージャン長洲ハッカー美ポジばっか
Ashley Wagner used to compensate her faulty skating with over dramatic expression. 😂
I love the way her hands move.
何処かの女子選手が苦手とするために、スパイラルを必須項目から外したように聞きましたが。
それはないでしょうよ。たしかコレオシークエンスに変わったのは2012年からだと記憶してるけど、当時はスパイラルポジションを含むコレオ、だったからね。
以前ほど必須ではなくなっとは言えさ。何でもかんでも某選手が、みたいな言い方はどうかと思うよ。
実際2013年のワールドで、コレオシークエンスでスパイラルをしてるからね。短いけどさ。
なぜラストにキムヨナさんなの...
狙って入れたオチの様で、面白いですよね笑
他の投稿見たらわかると思いますけど、投稿者さんがヨナさん好きだから最後にしただけじゃないですか？
選手ごとに好みがあるのはわかりますし、私もぶっちゃけ他の子のスパイラルの方が好きですけど、悪意のある言い方はどうかと思いますよ、、
@@ゆめ-x3r3tそういうことですね！納得です！悪意はまったくありませんが。
@@seanshankou1995 ごめんなさい！！あなた様ではなくて、私のコメントのひとつ上の人に言ったつもりでした💦すみません💦(;_;)
@@ゆめ-x3r3t
私ですね～笑
ただ私とは面白く感じただけなんですが、あのコメントから悪意を感じられた貴方様もそうであるように、捉え方は人それぞれですね！
И ни одной россиянки, конечно же)
Бір аяқтарын жердің үстінде тұрып көтере алмайтын, мұздың үстінде тұра алмайтын адамдардың мәнерлеп сырғанаудағы ең жоғарғы барлық атақтардың алғашқы иегерін сынап жатқандары күлкілі 😂😂😂😂😂😂 Because you are JEALOUS. Өздерің тіпті Ёна сияқты жасай алмайсыңдар ғой сол спиральді 😂😂😂😂😂😂 Ол сияқты жылдамдықта сырғанасаңдар өкпелерің өшіп қалар 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Кімсіңдер сендер Ёна Патшайымды сынайтын? 😂