Regarding full sized duty lights, I put a TLR 1 HL on my carry gun and actually found that it made it *more* concealable. The extra length past the muzzle helps keep the gun from tipping away from my body now which was the main cause of printing for me. I’m bigger than most people though so this is purely anecdotal
I love that you guys are super practical and not really concerned about the hottest fad. I have a few of your holsters and they conceal the best and are way more durable than most other manufacturers with dual clips and weird claws that add to the discomfort. Another thing to note, for people who have not tried the tenicor zero belt your missing out, most comfortable belt on the market you will be surprised how low profile and lightweight it is
I carry both a hand held and a weapon light(sometimes). I always have a knife, pen, and Mircrostream in addition to my keys, wallet, and phone. These are always with me. If/when I carry I have a TLR-7 Sub on my P365XL(I don't always carry my handgun depending on where I am going/if i can or can't). Having a hand held light for me is just nice instead of using my phone light. I have a handheld light on me even if I have my TLR-7 sub on my handgun because it is not a crime to point a handheld light at some one. Let me explain. Scenario: I am walking to my car with 2 of my female friends after a concert. I notice that a guy in a black hoody has fallowed us about 2 1/2 blocks even around a corner. I didn't notice him walk out of the venue. When his pace increased toward us, i took out the microstream from my pocket and pointed it at him and yelled "Stop Fallowing us". The dude turned around and ran. (Yes this has happened) Now I live in a not so 2A friendly state, If I pulled out my Handgun to shine my TLR-7, I have now just brandished a firearm. I can go to jail. Even though I didn't fire my gun, or I used it to deter a "possible" crime, I just used the flash light, that does not cut it in my state(or any state really). Pointing a little handheld light at some one, there is almost 0% chance you can be arrested or that it can be twisted into you threatening some ones life. Here is how I train for something like this. My range is cool and I can get a lane separate from every one else so I can do some dynamic(Ish) drills. I start at the paper target at max range (25m) and the Microstream in my hand pointing at it. I have the target start traveling in to 0m. When the target passes some where between 15m and 20m meters I drop the microstream on the ground and draw from my concealed holster. I make an effort to remember to flip off my safety and turn on the TLR-7. This in my opinion is the best way to just avoid Legal bs in a low light self defense situation.
I been a auto tech for about 20 years and have droped my steamlight probly tgousands of times, even from 10 to 15 feet, and only broke 1 in that time, was easly warranted out and still using to this day! I now roll with streamlight on my ccw
The G19 X300 ARX SOL is what I've worn for about four years, daily. Tenicor warrantied my holster when the loops cracked after hard use (12+hr days of body heat and use); Surefire thankfully replaced my X300 parts as they also broke (mostly the thin plastic hooks on the battery door). I also installed a G43X + TLR7 Sub SAGAX LUX2 onto a PHLster Enigma for my wife, and it has continued to work as expected with excellent fitment. People should support companies with great warranties, and customer service should be at the top of your consideration list when buying gear. Tenicor definitely wins me over with that, as they've never let me down and have continually supported and tolerated me. Now, if only we could get that VP9 X300 lineup rolling into 2024! 😎👍
Though it’s underpowered by today’s standards, I really, really like the tan microstream USB for one simple reason. It doesn’t scream “gun guy” and I can bust it out in public without anyone giving me the side eye. I do also have a macro stream and I find I only carry it when I know I’m going out at night. As far as WML’s, I find anything that extends the length of a normal G19 to be extremely uncomfortable. So I stick with the TLR-7a, or no WML.
I agree with the sentiment of carrying the biggest, most effective gun & light you can realistically manage/conceal. Thats why I have an m&p2.0 compact 4". I have large hands, so it was one of the few options with a big enough grip (length, width & depth wise) where i can actually get a confident hold on the gun. But it also holds 15+1, shoots extremely flat, while being just compact enough.
My first real light was an early surefire incandescent in Iraq in 2006 like you mentioned. I still have it but it's amazing how the tech has advanced just like cell phones. Brighter. smaller. Longer output. I have the tan microstream. Love it and it feels like it puts out more lumen then it's specs state but I will say it gets hot fast.
I carried a weapon mounted light for 32 years on and off duty. I no longer carry a weapon mounted light on my gun because my obligations as a citizen don't require me to look for bad guys in low light places i.e. buildings, houses, warehouses, closed businesses, ditches, wooded areas, etc. I appendix carry and I find it more comfortable carrying without a weapon mounted light. I do have a weapon mounted light on my home defense gun for obvious reasons.
I carry a TLR7 on my Walther PDP because it doesn’t add any bulk over not having a light and the weight slightly helps with recoil. I acknowledge that the chance of me needing that light in a concealed carry situation is vanishingly small. On home defense pistols and rifles I always have bigger lights. That “bump in the night” situation is going to be more likely for you to need a light.
Great post. Yeah, I agree you have to evaluate what you're primarily using it for as well. For me, I work in executive protection so I don't like running red dots or weapon lights because concealment is what I need. Sig P365XL (in a Velo 4 of course) and the Surefire stiletto pro is all carry.
I decided to purchase a second handgun for EDC in Fall/Winter (previously been rocking the 3.1" Shield Plus in your Velo 4 365 days of the year) and went with the Beretta APX A1 Compact due to its low $400 price and the $100 rebate Beretta has been offering. Since the nights were longer and due to the presence of WML I decided I would go ahead and try to find a holster that would support a WML. Unfortunately the aftermarket support for Beretta is pretty limited as is, the good companies I trust for making holsters that do support the APX A1 do not at the moment make a WML version of their holster. So now I am contemplating getting the bulkier but universal WML holsters like the Phlster Floodlight 2. But this video has helped assure me that I could be fine going with just a normal AIWB holster and a handheld flashlight in dark settings.
Tan Microstream FTW. I have several that I rotate in and out of charging. Been using them for many many years. The Tan one has HI first then low, vs LOW then High on the black one. Don't know why they did it that way. I actually think it's better than the Wedge and Wedge XT. It actually feels brighter than the XT, which is actually brighter but has more of a flood so doesn't quite have the reach of the lower-powered Microstream. I find I carry the Micro more than the Macro - the Micro disappears on sweats and shorts, while the Macro is a little heavier.
Great video. If I may add however, carrying a full size light and forearm can be done easily unless very overweight. I’m 5’10” 170lbs and I carry a Glock 34 with tlr 1 hl and rmr everyday in florida where I wear shorts and a form fitted tshirt. The biggest things are a fantastic belt, great holster like the armadillo concealment lux extended, and a placing the firearm in a great position lince cross draw appendix. These things can be great topics to explore with people as opposed to reassuring their excuses for not trying to carry a bigger more well equipped firearm.
@@tenicorusa agreed, but also a great belt and holster combo can mean all the difference between having to wear a jacket and just going about the day in your normal attire. Or it can mean the difference between thinking the gun should be smaller and less capable vs full sized and with a light. I wish I knew all of this my first 8 years of CCW. It took going through so many handguns before I realized I can carry so much more with proper gear.
Watched a different video. Dude went thru Surefire pistol mounted light class. He briefly mentionened the confusion of transitioning between the pressure switch on the light & the trigger! That right there makes a light on a pistol a bad Idea!
Honestly I’ve own two different surefire lights both of them gave me issues nonstop I’ve had a streamlight tlr1hl for 7 years haven’t had one issue and it’s been beat and now have a tlr7A for last two years no issues personally I stay clear from surefire now
I was referencing the bit about professionals carrying a handheld and no wml. Was curious on the reasoning there. Nothing in my comment mentions big lights….
Some people may not be able to conceal any light at all. I have also heard that some people doing undercover work would not carry a light as to avoid accidentally giving away their position
@@BlueLife03416 people shoot at lights - handheld being held off body is still the best bet if you're unfortunate enough to have to solo or 2 man a room/building. In cases where there's a full team - the pie gets covered, by everyone having a light - everyone can see everywhere - so you accept the trade off of position being compromised for well lit space. You can't accept the trade off of position being given away when there's only 1 or 2 of you, best not to make it easier to be surprised. The average citizen doesn't need a WML unless they're in a very rural setting or usually in places they shouldn't be anyway.
Hi I bought ARX LUX for Glock 19. Now I want to choose a flashlight Streamlight, but I don’t find model TlR-7A on their website. It may no longer be produced. Can you please recommend a flashlight that will fit this holster and this pistol?
The TLR-7a should still exist as far as we know. On their site, they have a TLR-7x which is effectively the same light but comes with a rechargeable battery.
I roll with a glock 23 gen 3 with olight baldr s mini. Runs great amongst the hate! Maybe I got a good one or something but light/laser combo has never failed even after 1000 or so .40 put out right over it. Holds zero very well. And no they dont catch fire! Lol. That was one of there hand helds if my memory serves. Great vid!
"Always carry with one in the chamber, you never know when you won't have a free hand to rack a slide!" "Why would you want a light on your pistol? Just carry a flashlight!" It's amazing how often these two statements are said by the same person.
That's a solid point and we don't really disagree. We frequently carry pistol mounted lights. It's a great addition to, but doesn't replace, a handheld light.
6:45 yeah this is something that always bothered me about gun culture. Guys will tell women “don’t carry a .45 or gun with a long slide” meanwhile they have a huge pistol with a full size flashlight on it inside their pants. Like get real. Idk how yall do it when Im an average size guy and I try to keep everything compact.
If im using a light on my firearm. It’s my damn business. I don’t give a crap what other people think. If i worried about what everyone else thinks. I wouldn’t be able to leave my home. People get their underwear all in a bunch about nothing nowadays.
Well, this was illuminating. Thank you for shedding light on the topic.
Brightened my day for sure
We see what you did there 😆
😂
I don't know, without a Tenicor TLR-7a holster available, things are not very clear for me.
Regarding full sized duty lights, I put a TLR 1 HL on my carry gun and actually found that it made it *more* concealable. The extra length past the muzzle helps keep the gun from tipping away from my body now which was the main cause of printing for me. I’m bigger than most people though so this is purely anecdotal
Great point and it definitely can help with tip out.
You have a great presence in your videos, delivering great content with authority without being condescending. Thanks for the information
Appreciate the support 👍
I love that you guys are super practical and not really concerned about the hottest fad. I have a few of your holsters and they conceal the best and are way more durable than most other manufacturers with dual clips and weird claws that add to the discomfort. Another thing to note, for people who have not tried the tenicor zero belt your missing out, most comfortable belt on the market you will be surprised how low profile and lightweight it is
Thanks for the support!
Thank you for the insight- I always felt like a light on a concealed weapon was too much bulk… this video puts it all in perspective
Glad to help
I carry both a hand held and a weapon light(sometimes). I always have a knife, pen, and Mircrostream in addition to my keys, wallet, and phone. These are always with me. If/when I carry I have a TLR-7 Sub on my P365XL(I don't always carry my handgun depending on where I am going/if i can or can't). Having a hand held light for me is just nice instead of using my phone light. I have a handheld light on me even if I have my TLR-7 sub on my handgun because it is not a crime to point a handheld light at some one. Let me explain.
Scenario: I am walking to my car with 2 of my female friends after a concert. I notice that a guy in a black hoody has fallowed us about 2 1/2 blocks even around a corner. I didn't notice him walk out of the venue. When his pace increased toward us, i took out the microstream from my pocket and pointed it at him and yelled "Stop Fallowing us". The dude turned around and ran. (Yes this has happened)
Now I live in a not so 2A friendly state, If I pulled out my Handgun to shine my TLR-7, I have now just brandished a firearm. I can go to jail. Even though I didn't fire my gun, or I used it to deter a "possible" crime, I just used the flash light, that does not cut it in my state(or any state really). Pointing a little handheld light at some one, there is almost 0% chance you can be arrested or that it can be twisted into you threatening some ones life.
Here is how I train for something like this. My range is cool and I can get a lane separate from every one else so I can do some dynamic(Ish) drills. I start at the paper target at max range (25m) and the Microstream in my hand pointing at it. I have the target start traveling in to 0m. When the target passes some where between 15m and 20m meters I drop the microstream on the ground and draw from my concealed holster. I make an effort to remember to flip off my safety and turn on the TLR-7.
This in my opinion is the best way to just avoid Legal bs in a low light self defense situation.
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Seems to be a lot of heated "controversy" on this topic nowadays- thank you for your calm, unemotional break down.
Appreciate the support 🤙
I been a auto tech for about 20 years and have droped my steamlight probly tgousands of times, even from 10 to 15 feet, and only broke 1 in that time, was easly warranted out and still using to this day! I now roll with streamlight on my ccw
The Tlr7Sub on a carry gun is a good solution for CCW.
The G19 X300 ARX SOL is what I've worn for about four years, daily. Tenicor warrantied my holster when the loops cracked after hard use (12+hr days of body heat and use); Surefire thankfully replaced my X300 parts as they also broke (mostly the thin plastic hooks on the battery door).
I also installed a G43X + TLR7 Sub SAGAX LUX2 onto a PHLster Enigma for my wife, and it has continued to work as expected with excellent fitment.
People should support companies with great warranties, and customer service should be at the top of your consideration list when buying gear.
Tenicor definitely wins me over with that, as they've never let me down and have continually supported and tolerated me.
Now, if only we could get that VP9 X300 lineup rolling into 2024! 😎👍
Thanks for the support Jon!
Though it’s underpowered by today’s standards, I really, really like the tan microstream USB for one simple reason. It doesn’t scream “gun guy” and I can bust it out in public without anyone giving me the side eye. I do also have a macro stream and I find I only carry it when I know I’m going out at night.
As far as WML’s, I find anything that extends the length of a normal G19 to be extremely uncomfortable. So I stick with the TLR-7a, or no WML.
I really like my olight pl mini2. Nice light and conceals well. Love that Certum holster too
I just invested in a Olight Arkfeld I have been impressed with this light.
I watched the first video from you all yesterday and now I’m hooked!
Appreciate the support 🤙
I agree with the sentiment of carrying the biggest, most effective gun & light you can realistically manage/conceal.
Thats why I have an m&p2.0 compact 4". I have large hands, so it was one of the few options with a big enough grip (length, width & depth wise) where i can actually get a confident hold on the gun. But it also holds 15+1, shoots extremely flat, while being just compact enough.
Great holsters! Any time soon where Tenicor holster would hold a TLR-8A G? Thanks
My first real light was an early surefire incandescent in Iraq in 2006 like you mentioned. I still have it but it's amazing how the tech has advanced just like cell phones. Brighter. smaller. Longer output.
I have the tan microstream. Love it and it feels like it puts out more lumen then it's specs state but I will say it gets hot fast.
I carried a weapon mounted light for 32 years on and off duty. I no longer carry a weapon mounted light on my gun because my obligations as a citizen don't require me to look for bad guys in low light places i.e. buildings, houses, warehouses, closed businesses, ditches, wooded areas, etc. I appendix carry and I find it more comfortable carrying without a weapon mounted light. I do have a weapon mounted light on my home defense gun for obvious reasons.
Seeing that the majority of home invasions happen at night why wouldn't you have a light on you home defense gun?
I do have a WML on my house defense gun
I carry a TLR7 on my Walther PDP because it doesn’t add any bulk over not having a light and the weight slightly helps with recoil. I acknowledge that the chance of me needing that light in a concealed carry situation is vanishingly small. On home defense pistols and rifles I always have bigger lights. That “bump in the night” situation is going to be more likely for you to need a light.
What holster are you using?
Sad that Tenicor doesn't have a tlr7 one 😢
Wow! You sir are very knowledgeable
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Great post. Yeah, I agree you have to evaluate what you're primarily using it for as well.
For me, I work in executive protection so I don't like running red dots or weapon lights because concealment is what I need. Sig P365XL (in a Velo 4 of course) and the Surefire stiletto pro is all carry.
Thanks for the insight. Appreciate the support. 🤙
I decided to purchase a second handgun for EDC in Fall/Winter (previously been rocking the 3.1" Shield Plus in your Velo 4 365 days of the year) and went with the Beretta APX A1 Compact due to its low $400 price and the $100 rebate Beretta has been offering.
Since the nights were longer and due to the presence of WML I decided I would go ahead and try to find a holster that would support a WML.
Unfortunately the aftermarket support for Beretta is pretty limited as is, the good companies I trust for making holsters that do support the APX A1 do not at the moment make a WML version of their holster. So now I am contemplating getting the bulkier but universal WML holsters like the Phlster Floodlight 2.
But this video has helped assure me that I could be fine going with just a normal AIWB holster and a handheld flashlight in dark settings.
Glad it was helpful! 🤙
I have a Certum for when I don’t want my WML, and a Sagax Lux for when I do! Can’t really go wrong with that rotation
Appreciate the support 🤙
Tan Microstream FTW. I have several that I rotate in and out of charging. Been using them for many many years. The Tan one has HI first then low, vs LOW then High on the black one. Don't know why they did it that way. I actually think it's better than the Wedge and Wedge XT. It actually feels brighter than the XT, which is actually brighter but has more of a flood so doesn't quite have the reach of the lower-powered Microstream. I find I carry the Micro more than the Macro - the Micro disappears on sweats and shorts, while the Macro is a little heavier.
Agreed. We have an assortment around here and they're all pretty good but the Microstream is a go-to.👍
I do love the USB-C charging on the Wedge.
I still have the Surefire 6P and 9P with Malkoff bulbs.
Classic 👍
Fantastic video! Thank you!
Appreciate the support 🤙
If your EDC doubles as your do it all, would you then carry a WML everyday ?
Great video. If I may add however, carrying a full size light and forearm can be done easily unless very overweight. I’m 5’10” 170lbs and I carry a Glock 34 with tlr 1 hl and rmr everyday in florida where I wear shorts and a form fitted tshirt. The biggest things are a fantastic belt, great holster like the armadillo concealment lux extended, and a placing the firearm in a great position lince cross draw appendix. These things can be great topics to explore with people as opposed to reassuring their excuses for not trying to carry a bigger more well equipped firearm.
You can carry pretty much anything as long as you're willing to build your entire wardrobe around you gun.
@@tenicorusa agreed, but also a great belt and holster combo can mean all the difference between having to wear a jacket and just going about the day in your normal attire. Or it can mean the difference between thinking the gun should be smaller and less capable vs full sized and with a light. I wish I knew all of this my first 8 years of CCW. It took going through so many handguns before I realized I can carry so much more with proper gear.
Precisely why we make the best holsters on the market
Watched a different video. Dude went thru Surefire pistol mounted light class. He briefly mentionened the confusion of transitioning between the pressure switch on the light & the trigger! That right there makes a light on a pistol a bad Idea!
What’s your thoughts on holster gap with using wml? Safe or not?
Honestly I’ve own two different surefire lights both of them gave me issues nonstop I’ve had a streamlight tlr1hl for 7 years haven’t had one issue and it’s been beat and now have a tlr7A for last two years no issues personally I stay clear from surefire now
Curious. From an on duty/ plainclothes point of view, why go no WML as opposed to a TLR7A or Sub?
Watch the content… get the biggest brightest light you can comfortably carry, if you don’t like carrying a bigger heavier light, you won’t carry it.
I was referencing the bit about professionals carrying a handheld and no wml. Was curious on the reasoning there. Nothing in my comment mentions big lights….
Some people may not be able to conceal any light at all. I have also heard that some people doing undercover work would not carry a light as to avoid accidentally giving away their position
@@BlueLife03416 people shoot at lights - handheld being held off body is still the best bet if you're unfortunate enough to have to solo or 2 man a room/building.
In cases where there's a full team - the pie gets covered, by everyone having a light - everyone can see everywhere - so you accept the trade off of position being compromised for well lit space. You can't accept the trade off of position being given away when there's only 1 or 2 of you, best not to make it easier to be surprised.
The average citizen doesn't need a WML unless they're in a very rural setting or usually in places they shouldn't be anyway.
Hi
I bought ARX LUX for Glock 19.
Now I want to choose a flashlight Streamlight, but I don’t find model TlR-7A on their website. It may no longer be produced.
Can you please recommend a flashlight that will fit this holster and this pistol?
The TLR-7a should still exist as far as we know. On their site, they have a TLR-7x which is effectively the same light but comes with a rechargeable battery.
Tlr-7a and m&p holster please
And PDP too.
I roll with a glock 23 gen 3 with olight baldr s mini. Runs great amongst the hate! Maybe I got a good one or something but light/laser combo has never failed even after 1000 or so .40 put out right over it. Holds zero very well. And no they dont catch fire! Lol. That was one of there hand helds if my memory serves. Great vid!
i just use them for the extra weight
"Always carry with one in the chamber, you never know when you won't have a free hand to rack a slide!"
"Why would you want a light on your pistol? Just carry a flashlight!"
It's amazing how often these two statements are said by the same person.
That's a solid point and we don't really disagree. We frequently carry pistol mounted lights. It's a great addition to, but doesn't replace, a handheld light.
@@tenicorusa Love your holsters! Keep the good stuff coming!
6:45 yeah this is something that always bothered me about gun culture. Guys will tell women “don’t carry a .45 or gun with a long slide” meanwhile they have a huge pistol with a full size flashlight on it inside their pants. Like get real. Idk how yall do it when Im an average size guy and I try to keep everything compact.
Not everyone wants to dress around their firearm. Balance is needed in life. Thank you for a sensible video.
The answer is both
Dude you guys dont have a holster for G26 with tl6, one THE most popular weapon/light combos. What are you talking about?
Thank you for explaining to the kids a WML on their EDC pistol isn’t necessary.
If im using a light on my firearm. It’s my damn business. I don’t give a crap what other people think. If i worried about what everyone else thinks. I wouldn’t be able to leave my home. People get their underwear all in a bunch about nothing nowadays.
It’s dark out half the time… unsure why that’s so controversial