The actress was pretty okay for her age, but the character... **Ugh.** It's like Young Anakin all over again. Only hoping she doesn't get the hate Jake Lloyd did.
Pretty neat how she played the little bitch role... I think she pulled it of so well that it lines up with the bitchy arrogance Carrie Fisher gave us in New Hope
Two things: First, they know that. They get things wrong on purpose to encourage comments & keep the algorithm happy. Second, your technically both right? The first Storm Troopers were the surviving Clone Troopers, and in a way the decline really does start here, with those fucking chips. The programing within them quashed critical thinking in a way that badly damaged their ability to function at their Clone Wars levels. They were still way better than Natborn Stormies, but "humans first" meant "natborns first"... which is less shocking when you realize "near-human" included everything from Twi'leks to a human society who's native langue was entirely body language-based. So the Vod'e were probably 'near humans' to them...
@@keigoftw the scene in question is during the initial execution of order 66. Those are still clone troopers. Also any theoretical cognitive decline hasn't had time to develop yet and it doesn't matter sense for a lack of critical thinking to impact their ability to aim. Intentional it not, it's just a mistake.
@@jotarokujo3603 that 2nd to last sentence doesn't make structural sense, "since for lack of critical thinking their ability to aim" is missing some words, unless you really did mean sense? The 2nd sentence is pedantic. The final one is repeating a more reductive version of something I already said in plain English, like it's a correction. The whole of it is mistaking differences of opinions and headcanon as a situation where one of has to be right and the other wrong. If that last part wasn't what you were trying to get across: tone. less aggressive.
Fr its part of what made Clone Wars and Rebels so cool. Why do we gotta see only humans.....oh wait its so they can lower budget and get higher profits selling merch isnt it? Fuckin disney. #MoreAlienRepresentation #Speciesism
Two of the inquisitors were aliens. Two of the Mercenaries chasing Leia were Aliens. Obiwan punched a Zabrak in episode 2. The driver that picked them up on not Tatooine was an alien.
He's literally facing away from the camera and the front/right side of his face is blocked from behind the ear forward...so how do you know he doesn't have the lower breathing part already attached?
@@brandocalrissian3294 the helmet is inconsitant. In empire, you can see his bald scarred head as the helmet is put on, but in Return, his lower part of the helmet clearly covers the bald part of his head. So he either changed the mark in between, or the designer couldn't decide, or well, they just thought it looked cooler that way...
The inconsistencies are because it’s a new suit from around the rebels era onwards as you can see by the time of a new hope the eyes are less red and as you stated the helmet is more complete probably to account for vaders worse breathing problems as he is getting a lot older he was nearly 50 in return of the Jedi
The show does have its flaws, but Ewan McGregor's performance is, (as always,) amazing. Of course, I would happily watch a video of him reading aloud from the dictionary and say the same thing. And I thought the actress who played little Leia was great, too!
I would like to bring to attention that you can dislike a character without being racist. I did not like Reva because she was poorly written, way too aggressive, and at times unnecessary. She gets better later in the series, but the fact Disney calls its fans racist based on a single character judgement is sad.
I am Not excusing racism. What I will say is: Public figures, whether stars or TH-cam personalities, get nasty comments and death threats almost daily. I get insults on social media regularly. It sucks but it happens. It feels like excuse making for bad writing.
It’s not being racist for not liking the character, it’s racist the way people talking about the actress and the disgusting things that they were posting about her because of the way her character was. It’s the exact same thing that happened to Ahmed Best when he played Jar Jar which almost lead to him almost taking his own life
The biggest problem with Reva’s “assassination attempt” was she could’ve/should’ve attempted to stab him while he was focused force pulling a ship to the ground. She literally waited until after he’d pulled it down and wasn’t focusing on anything else but a ship he didn’t plan to pull.
The biggest problem is that she murdered a bunch of Jedi to get "justice". If the story was "I knew it was terrible but I had to maintain the ruse to take out Space Hitler cause he's the worst and more people would benefit vs the lives of the individual Jedi I murdered so it had to be done..." But it was for personal vengeance so f**k her.
@@gentelmanjunkie542 big facts she was even originally willing to murder a young child which was the whole reason she was mad at vader. She couldn’t follow through on it but she intended to do it.
@@DarkManSonian that might be valid if she hadn’t basically admitted to obi-wan in the same episode she’d do anything and endure anything as long as he died for what he did. She even listened to him, a jedi she was supposed to kill as he attempted to make a deal with her to get her the opportunity. Then when the opportunity arose she waited too long. Not to mention she still tried to attack him from behind so If she truly wanted wanted to best him in combat she wouldn’t have attacked him when he wasn’t looking. As much as I’d love for you to be right, the unfortunate answer is bad writing. Imagine the same scene but the only reason vader didn’t pull down the second ship was because he had to defend himself as she attacked him while he was trying. That sounds much better than him standing there watching the second ship get away without doing anything about it after we just watched him pull the same ship out of the sky.
The biggest problem with this series is, why does Leia not address this adventure in her message to General Kenobi. You served my father in the Clone Wars. Did she forget? Did Kenobi use some Force power to wipe her mind of this adventure?
Well, she was making a formal request. Putting aside this was made after ANH, making that hologram recording wasn’t the time to bring up this adventure.
The majority of hate towards Moses Ingram's character isn't because of her skin color, it's because her character doesn't make sense. She willingly joins the people who killed everyone she cares about, is the most violent and the most bloodthirsty of her group, gets away with doing some of the most reckless things, somehow survives an encounter with one of the most powerful Jedi in history as a child (playing dead), and more things. "She's a Mary Sue" seems like a valid opinion given what she's done. If you have something to say, be nice about it whether you agree or disagree.
dont forget about the fact that Vader once killed a trooper piloting a gunship he was in while flying because he thought he might have heard Jocasta Nu say his real name from the back. He whould have sensed she knew he was Ani as she would have thought his name atleast once in his presense and he would have killed her on the spot.
Exactly. How do you get to be a sympathetic good guy after all that. And I always had a problem with Vader being "redeemed" in Jedi too, I mean he's space Hitler more or less and just cause he threw the Emporer down a shaft at the literal LAST FRIGGIN SECOND, it's all good!?
@@gentelmanjunkie542 Well, I mean no one else (especially Luke) had no chance of taking down Old Palp (supposedly) so it wasn't like it was a small matter, but I get you.
Actually I believe Ani did in fact know that she knew who he was, he wanted her to slip into the dark side and become his apprentice. She also has one of the most bad ass fight scenes in Star Wars history. You can claim all these reasons why her story doesnt make sense and you can even pretend that you know exactly what Vader would or should do but truth is, you aint the writer bud. Fan need to stop with all this dumbass "we know more than the owners of the IP" bs. These are stories, thats it, you dont get to control it nor is it yours. She was hated because she was Black just like Finn was passed over as being the focus of the new trilogy because he was Black. The only Black person yall happen to like is one who stars in movies written by a white man who loves the use of the n word. Its hilarious how surface level your dislike of my people is.
Obi Wan went 10 YEARS without hearing the name Darth Vader??? Never once at work or in Mos Eisley did someone mention the name of the Empire’s 2nd-in-command and most feared individual in the entire galaxy around Obi Wan??? Even more unbelievable is no sin removal for this. Bail never thought it might be wise to tell Kenobi, “Hey, since your protecting the boy who might end up being of some importance one day, be on the look out for Darth Vader because he’s alive and pure evil. Especially since Luke is living with his only remaining family”. Also… the fact they removed sins for Obi-Wan Kenobi but not a single one for Dune (2021)….WTF
There's also the fact that Obi Wan has heard the name Darth Vader before and should already know who he is. Yoda to Obi Wan in Revenge of the Sith: "Twisted by the dark side young Skywalker has become. The boy you trained, gone he is. Consumed by Darth Vader."
Darth Vader isn't the "Vice President" of the Empire - he's just the most dangerous mother****er going after insurgents and the Empire doesn't advertise him. Do you know, without Googling, who is the Commanding Officer of US Special Operations? I bet you a guy living alone in his cabin in Idaho doesn't.
@@connerclark8821 haha…who calls Vader a “vice president”? I did not know emperors had VPs? Palpatine is his master (1st in command), he is the apprentice (2nd). Darth Vader is the strongest representative of the Emperor in the Imperial fleet. He gives orders, and will kill Admirals who fail him. The only individual with whom he must obey and follow the orders of his master, the Emperor. The only person who can punish Vader for his failure in protecting the Death Star, and get away this was his master the Emperor. There are a very select few with whom Vader will comply with in receiving an order from. One of them is Tarkin, because he has a trusted and successful long history of working alongside Tarkin. I ask you, what was Vader’s rank? It’s Supreme Commander of the Imperial Forces who oversaw the military directly. He was only outranked by Emperor Palpatine.
I don't find it particularly surprising that Vader isn't mentioned on Tatooine. It doesn't seem like Kenobi is making much if any effort to stay informed on the state of the galaxy and the planet is fairly isolated from the empire since it's ruled by the Hutts. Even after 9? More years the empire still doesn't control or really bother with the planet by time episode 4 starts. Personally I find it more weird that inquisitors show up looking for another Jedi but never figure out that Obi-wan and Luke are hanging out there.
32:25 Best thing is that the Base was already attacked by Cal Kestis so their reasoning makes even less sense. Also they basically copied the Games events with the Fortress.
The duel between Obiwan and Vader was also extremely similar to Ahsoka vs Vader. It kind of felt like this show was made to show off those cool moments to people who wouldn't watch an animated show or play a videogame
For sin 29… you should’ve also acknowledged that Obi-Wan is seeing the flashbacks as they happened in the movies from OUR perspective instead of HIS perspective.
...when has Star Wars ever had a POV shot? Only example I can think of is of Iden Versio's droid in the opening level of Battlefront II (and maybe a whip pan when Leia is looking for whoever she heard stepping on a twig; right before she meets Wicket?)
Here's a sin - if Obi-Wan and Leia have this extensive history together, why does her recorded message in Star Wars make it sound like she's never met him in person? And yes, you are dealing with the kind of person who expects prequels to be consistent with the chronologically earlier movies. That's the risk you take when you piggyback on someone else's vision.
I rated this show a 3/10 but the obi wan v Vader showdown made me revise my rating to 6/10. That scene was really worth enduring the oh so many "super easy barely an inconvenience" moments of the show
You forgot to add a sin for the fact that Reva surviving this brings up a LOT of questions. Just one being, if she survived this why didn't she show up in movie 4? I could go on, but I won't.
All Obi-wan had to sat was you and I both know what the empire is capable of, we need to get her back. Then Rokin could have said sometimes you can't then exposite his back story
The funny part is when Leia was threatening them with who her father was, if she had used her REAL father they would have been shitting themselves. Imagine Taken with Vader in the Liam Neeson role.
How can you make Kenobi troll harder? [T-Pose Kenobi] But in all fairness, the writers do have some things to answer for: 1. Which stargate address did wounded, marooned Reva dial to get off that planet and over to Tattooine DURING the pursuit of the Path escape transport? 2. Where are the star destroyer's tractor beams?? 3. Where are the star destroyer's multiple squadrons of TIE Fighters??? 4. What TARDIS portable hole Tomfoolery did they use to store that hyperspace capable dropship inside The escape transport, launch it from a ramp barely wide enough for a T47 airspeeder, And where did they put all the massed refugees while they vented the cargo bay/hangar to do all that???? Pretty. But DUMB.
Reva clearly has a teleporting plot device. She looks in the entry of the "Path" escape route, and somehow magically ends up in front of running Leia, without being out of breath either.
Why not? He is one of the most powerful force users - ever. Why would he be spent? Surely he would be MORE angry that he was decieved. Not spent enough to fight Reva with ease. Do you work at Disney?
I can definitely see him being worn out from dragging a ship back to the ground against the power of its engines. The fight with Reva would still be a breeze because she's just not that good, she couldn't take on Kenobi at his worst so that's pretty consistent imo. So I find it very believable that he couldn't pull down a ship for a second time in a row.
Whoa I knew this show had its flaws and I have only seen a tiny bit, but I just realized this video is an hour long, for only the first season.... Time to grab my popcorn.🍿
forgot to sin how much the lightsabers now function as bats when obi wan literally hit a stormtrooper and his lightsaber did not even go straight through the armor when its supposed to cuz the armor isnt beskar
Well, the grand inquisitor was more or less explained. Apparently, he has two stomachs. So apparently, the fatal looking stab wasn't fatal 🤷♂️ Also, with the dark side, most darkside users can absorb more punishment that other being. Take for example darthmaul, he was sliced in half and survived with robotic legs.
Yeah still bullshit. 1.These aren’t real sith they’re inquisitors. 2. Maul survived because he literally poured all of his hatred to the point of permanent insanity to stay alive. And he wasn’t human. Also Maul was a highly skilled force user that trained under PALPATINE. His survival should’ve been a “damn he’s the only badass to ever survive a fatal lightsaber blow and live to tell about it” to “eh, even a inquisitor could pull that off…no biggie”
Just because *some* people hate on Reva because of race (which is wrong) doesn't mean that the majority of people who dislike Reva are racist...nor that the character deserves 3 sins off. This is a poorly written character and the lines are delivered awkwardly. I'm sure the actress is a wonderful person IRL and she deserves respect, but she doesn't work well in this show. Stop assuming people don't like characters because they are of a certain race. The original trilogy includes beloved characters who are female (Leia) or black (Lando and Darth Vader) or white and set the bar very high and most of the new characters from the new shows and movies just suck in comparison.
The issue with the 9th sin is that clones were supposed to be better soldiers than the stormtrooper recruits and conscripts who replaced them. Clone troopers never had the same reputation for incompetence.
5:38 Ugh why do so many people think Obi-Wan is disillusioned and given up here?? He's guarding the children of Anakin, so that when they grow up, they may be powerful enough to kill both Vader and the Emperor, and save the galaxy. You can see in his face a pain at what he says himself, and pushing a Jedi away. But he *must* keep the twins safe and secret at all costs.
I love how many of my jokes that I made in my head make its way to these episodes LOL... the Scooby-Do reference was what I came up with when I saw that episode LOL and I remember wondering to myself if TVSINS will make the same reference then I laughed so hard when you guys did. And no no I am not saying we should collab LOL just neat when professionals come up with similar jokes here and there.
Leia tells us in Return of the Jedi that she barely remembers her mother, this show gets that family dynamic wrong from episode one The Inquisitors start by saying "The Jedi can't help but help people", then "The Jedi would never help you", to the same group of bystanders How have the Organa family not thought to put a tracking device on Lola by the time she's eventually kidnapped? Leia is kidnapped and the family does nothing, when calling in the authorities would have forced the Inquisitors to hand her back A fake jedi makes a living on the outlaw world, and no real Jedi thought to actually hide here Reva tracks Obi to Leia by his connection to the Organas. What connection? There is no connection that anyone could possibly know about, that's the whole point of hiding her on Alderaan "Anakin/Vader is alive!" is a reveal which surprises exactly zero Just a few sins I noticed
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Your criticism of the criticism directed at Moses is one of misunderstanding. The criticism directed towards Moses' character has nothing to do with the skin color (although there are racist trolls everywhere, on both sides mind you), the stern vitriol Moses was subjected to is the same that the character Rey has been subjected to. Women are portrayed as OP two-dimensional omnipotent gods who need no training in order to succeed. Moses should not know that the name of Darth Vader is Anakin. Period. The third sister is just another all-knowing Rey.
Damn, I feel we should've cleared 400 sins for this one. Others have already brought up some that could've been added to the tally. I think the biggest sin is hiring Joby Harold when he had so little experience writing anything and the things he HAD written(Awake, King Arthur: Legend of the Sword, Army of the Dead) were frelling terrible! I wonder how many people who loved the series initially have watched this video and changed their minds and how many stand by it.
The biggest sin is Reva coming back, from what most would think is canon death, to attempt to fulfill vader's wish of ending all remaining jedi (somehow she knows where and who luke is) instead of pursuing the grand inquisitor, knowing vader would be chasing kenobi
I love how you call them toxic and racist fans when the biggest complaint was in a show about Obi-Wan they focus more on a character nobody gives to shites about. And we're supposed to like her by the end because she does 1 good thing despite all the evil she's done. Not to mention Obi-Wan is a moron in his own show.
Biggest sin was not just sinning every second reva was on screen and no, not because she's a black woman. She's an absolutely horrible character that has no purpose other than not making any sense.
"General Kenobi. Years ago you served my father in the Clone Wars, and i have been neuralized by the Men in Black so i forgot i was kidnapped, hunted by bounty hunters and inquistors and that you rescued me. Now he begs you to help him against the Empire. I regret that i am unable to present...." R2 has the full message. You know they shot the Vader/Kenobi scenes first because Ewan was acting the rest like how we felt watching. Poor guy first the prequel drama now this.. He is still my favorite Obi-Wan tied with Alec.
21:00 To be completely fair, the first time the helmet comes off in our timeline is in 'Empire', and it uses this same approach... They changed it up for 'Jedi' and all subsequent removals in the past(figure that one out, kids...)
Dont forget you can criticize a character without it being because of their skin color. Though sometimes even skin color does play a small part based on the ethnicity of a fictional location
I criticize Reva not because of her skin color, but because the character was badly written and makes no sense. The fact that Disney is willing to call fans racist just because they criticize someone of color shows that all they care about is "representation" and not storytelling. It sucks.
@@BrandontheAwesome It was funny how they did it before the show even came out. Like they knew she would be criticised, and had to deflect that with nuh uh racist. I get there were some actual racist assholes out there. But they never did that for other black actors
The biggest problem with the show is that there were absolutely no stakes. Obi-Wan, Leia, Luke, and Darth Vader/Anakin are all encased in plot armor. The writers completely overestimated how exciting the "Obi-Wan gets his powers back" arc was.
In my opinion the biggest sin this series has is Obi-Wan defeating Vader despite not using the Force nor a Lightsaber for 10 years while Vader has only been getting stronger, more experienced, more skilled & more knowledgeable about the Force. 2nd biggest is Reva somehow figuring out that Luke is Vader's son.
I really don't like what the recent media done to Vader's character. Between this, Rebels, Rogue 1, and Fallen Order, Vader is looking less like the unstoppable hand of the Emperor's will and more like some poor shmuck who gets bested by any main character he encounters. In the lore, this show takes place at the height of his power. He's in the middle of a nearly completely successful campaign to eliminate the remaining Jedi and the story treats him as though that's how powerful he is. If the writers want to maintain that essence of his character, maybe they should stop putting him in situations where he needs to loose for the plot to happen. I love the fight vs Reva because it demonstrates how an encounter with Darth Vader should go. He mops the floor with her and doesn't even bother to use a lightsaber until halfway through the fight. That's the Darth Vader that these writers want us to see, but the Vader they keep presenting to us is one who makes dumb mistakes, who is always just a moment too late, who's force abilities are suddenly neutered by the last ditch efforts of the protagonist, etc. etc. ad nauseum. I wish writers would stop relying on the idea of Darth Vader and start actually showing him live up to the lore and gravitas they imbue him with. You also missed a pretty blatant sin in the Vader vs Obi round 2 fight. Darth Vader, who, as he lay crippled on the bank of a lava flow, his flesh bursting into flames as he writhed, mustered the strength to scream "I hate you!" at his life long friend, mentor, master, teacher, and brother in arms, and who in this very show tried to mutilate Obi-Wan with fire, throws this man into a pit then decides, "You know what, I'm going to let some rocks and gravity inflict revenge for me." rather than jumping down into that pit after him and hacking Obi-Wan into as many pieces as he possibly could.
I remember watching this and thinking the futuristic city scape looks like downtown China, Blade Runner and futuristic Time Square all at once! The blend old-fashioned with modern with futuristic with ancient times, with medieval times, and a bit of Renaissance and back to futuristic again LMAO... and blending Asian, Egyptian, Middle Eastern, European cultural dress, architect and artwork and their above mentioned cross era versions.
order 66 was carried out by clone troups not stormtroups, the clones were extremely good fighters... and the only ones with the the mental manipulation imbedded in them to know what a "order 66" even is xD
Obiwan has trouble using the force because he is out of practice. Makes sense. EXCEPT. Didn't the sequels teach us that practice doesn't matter where the force is concerned? Or is that only for Rey?
1 year old already!!! This is another one of the enjoyable side stories Disney and Lucasfilm Ltd. have concocted not only expanding the story of one of the most infamous Star Wars characters but giving fans a lot more to chew on with fun action and more depth Thankfully it doesn’t feel constrained by many of the mistakes Lucas kept making but certainly makes things more grounded in realism and with conflicting emotions Shame Doug Walker thought this show was bad Like Shyamalan level bad
The troopers overrunning the temple are not “stormies” but are clone troopers. Plus one sin to you good sir for saying any troopers in white armor have the brain capacity of jar jar. Clones are smart.
I also thought that forest chase was almost enough to turn it off but my curiosity was the better and i ended up enjoying the show in whole. I just dont think its worth rewatching
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I’ll give the show this: It was nice to see Hayden and Ewan again.
The girl playing Leia was also adorable
The actress was pretty okay for her age, but the character... **Ugh.** It's like Young Anakin all over again. Only hoping she doesn't get the hate Jake Lloyd did.
@@Alex-uq1el she's his daughter... what do u expect her to be lol
@@Alex-uq1el "It's like Young Anakin all over again."
She's his literal daughter...?
@Elijah 💯💯💯
Pretty neat how she played the little bitch role...
I think she pulled it of so well that it lines up with the bitchy arrogance Carrie Fisher gave us in New Hope
can we sin TVSins for calling Clone Troopers incompetent?
Storm Troopers are the incompetent one not the Clones Troopers
AGREED!!! CLONE TROOPER SUPERIORITY!!!
Yeah the clone troopers are far superior
Clonetroopers are better. But we're not incompetent we keep dying to plot armor.
We can.
We can also sin TVSins for talking about the mythical "toxic fandom". The fandom isn't toxic. Modern Lucasfilm are the toxic ones.
He also referred to them as "stormies." I think the lad was a little confused.
1:44 There are exactly ZERO "Stormies" in this scene... There are Clone Troopers, which are superrior to Stormtroopers... That's a sin for Sins!
Two things: First, they know that. They get things wrong on purpose to encourage comments & keep the algorithm happy. Second, your technically both right? The first Storm Troopers were the surviving Clone Troopers, and in a way the decline really does start here, with those fucking chips. The programing within them quashed critical thinking in a way that badly damaged their ability to function at their Clone Wars levels. They were still way better than Natborn Stormies, but "humans first" meant "natborns first"... which is less shocking when you realize "near-human" included everything from Twi'leks to a human society who's native langue was entirely body language-based. So the Vod'e were probably 'near humans' to them...
@@keigoftw the scene in question is during the initial execution of order 66. Those are still clone troopers. Also any theoretical cognitive decline hasn't had time to develop yet and it doesn't matter sense for a lack of critical thinking to impact their ability to aim.
Intentional it not, it's just a mistake.
@@jotarokujo3603 that 2nd to last sentence doesn't make structural sense, "since for lack of critical thinking their ability to aim" is missing some words, unless you really did mean sense? The 2nd sentence is pedantic. The final one is repeating a more reductive version of something I already said in plain English, like it's a correction. The whole of it is mistaking differences of opinions and headcanon as a situation where one of has to be right and the other wrong. If that last part wasn't what you were trying to get across: tone. less aggressive.
Biggest sin is the absolute lack of aliens throughout the show. That is usually what makes the Star Wars universe feel so big.
Fr its part of what made Clone Wars and Rebels so cool. Why do we gotta see only humans.....oh wait its so they can lower budget and get higher profits selling merch isnt it?
Fuckin disney.
#MoreAlienRepresentation #Speciesism
@Commenter Guy God you missed the whole point of the complaint 😂
Two of the inquisitors were aliens. Two of the Mercenaries chasing Leia were Aliens. Obiwan punched a Zabrak in episode 2. The driver that picked them up on not Tatooine was an alien.
At this point in the empire they are human centric.
@@Henry-mk9dn Naaaah... let's just ignore it and trash the show because we sound so clever...
Ewan McGregor does have a Brother. He’s in the RAF, and his call sign is “Obi-Two”.
25:24
Im not sure how many of my fellow Americans are going to know RAF is the Royal Air Force in the UK.
One sin removed. In Empire Strikes Back, Vader’s helmet is put on in one piece when Admiral Piette walks in to inform him he’s found the Falcon
Yeah it’s a tad inconsistent
Maybe he’s got a geveral 2 piece helmet for diplomacy and a 1 piece for combat
it was actually just the top of the helmet, the front was already in place in that scene. so you're wrong.
He's literally facing away from the camera and the front/right side of his face is blocked from behind the ear forward...so how do you know he doesn't have the lower breathing part already attached?
@@brandocalrissian3294 the helmet is inconsitant.
In empire, you can see his bald scarred head as the helmet is put on, but in Return, his lower part of the helmet clearly covers the bald part of his head.
So he either changed the mark in between, or the designer couldn't decide, or well, they just thought it looked cooler that way...
The inconsistencies are because it’s a new suit from around the rebels era onwards as you can see by the time of a new hope the eyes are less red and as you stated the helmet is more complete probably to account for vaders worse breathing problems as he is getting a lot older he was nearly 50 in return of the Jedi
The show does have its flaws, but Ewan McGregor's performance is, (as always,) amazing. Of course, I would happily watch a video of him reading aloud from the dictionary and say the same thing. And I thought the actress who played little Leia was great, too!
I would like to bring to attention that you can dislike a character without being racist. I did not like Reva because she was poorly written, way too aggressive, and at times unnecessary. She gets better later in the series, but the fact Disney calls its fans racist based on a single character judgement is sad.
I am Not excusing racism. What I will say is: Public figures, whether stars or TH-cam personalities, get nasty comments and death threats almost daily. I get insults on social media regularly. It sucks but it happens. It feels like excuse making for bad writing.
@@aegisprotection4969 "I'm not a racist, but....."
@jamesarnold7253are you on the spectrum
It’s not being racist for not liking the character, it’s racist the way people talking about the actress and the disgusting things that they were posting about her because of the way her character was. It’s the exact same thing that happened to Ahmed Best when he played Jar Jar which almost lead to him almost taking his own life
@@MrJakePaddy thats not what he said though.
The biggest problem with Reva’s “assassination attempt” was she could’ve/should’ve attempted to stab him while he was focused force pulling a ship to the ground. She literally waited until after he’d pulled it down and wasn’t focusing on anything else but a ship he didn’t plan to pull.
The biggest problem is that she murdered a bunch of Jedi to get "justice". If the story was "I knew it was terrible but I had to maintain the ruse to take out Space Hitler cause he's the worst and more people would benefit vs the lives of the individual Jedi I murdered so it had to be done..." But it was for personal vengeance so f**k her.
@@gentelmanjunkie542 big facts she was even originally willing to murder a young child which was the whole reason she was mad at vader. She couldn’t follow through on it but she intended to do it.
She was falling to the darkside, she wanted to fight him and seek revenge, she did not want him dead by any means.
@@DarkManSonian that might be valid if she hadn’t basically admitted to obi-wan in the same episode she’d do anything and endure anything as long as he died for what he did. She even listened to him, a jedi she was supposed to kill as he attempted to make a deal with her to get her the opportunity. Then when the opportunity arose she waited too long. Not to mention she still tried to attack him from behind so If she truly wanted wanted to best him in combat she wouldn’t have attacked him when he wasn’t looking. As much as I’d love for you to be right, the unfortunate answer is bad writing. Imagine the same scene but the only reason vader didn’t pull down the second ship was because he had to defend himself as she attacked him while he was trying. That sounds much better than him standing there watching the second ship get away without doing anything about it after we just watched him pull the same ship out of the sky.
eh, she would have failed anyways, even if she hit him, vader is the moonknight of getting almost killed in a decent chunk of fights
I literally just finished marathoning the series, to see this posted now is perfect timing.
The biggest problem with this series is, why does Leia not address this adventure in her message to General Kenobi. You served my father in the Clone Wars. Did she forget? Did Kenobi use some Force power to wipe her mind of this adventure?
I mean it’s pretty simple your just thinking about it to deeply
It's because Disney Star Wars is NOT canon
It's because they have been making things up as they go along. So nothing about the greater Star Wars universe has made sense for a very long time.
Well, she was making a formal request. Putting aside this was made after ANH, making that hologram recording wasn’t the time to bring up this adventure.
The majority of hate towards Moses Ingram's character isn't because of her skin color, it's because her character doesn't make sense. She willingly joins the people who killed everyone she cares about, is the most violent and the most bloodthirsty of her group, gets away with doing some of the most reckless things, somehow survives an encounter with one of the most powerful Jedi in history as a child (playing dead), and more things. "She's a Mary Sue" seems like a valid opinion given what she's done. If you have something to say, be nice about it whether you agree or disagree.
dont forget about the fact that Vader once killed a trooper piloting a gunship he was in while flying because he thought he might have heard Jocasta Nu say his real name from the back. He whould have sensed she knew he was Ani as she would have thought his name atleast once in his presense and he would have killed her on the spot.
Exactly. How do you get to be a sympathetic good guy after all that. And I always had a problem with Vader being "redeemed" in Jedi too, I mean he's space Hitler more or less and just cause he threw the Emporer down a shaft at the literal LAST FRIGGIN SECOND, it's all good!?
@@gentelmanjunkie542 Well, I mean no one else (especially Luke) had no chance of taking down Old Palp (supposedly) so it wasn't like it was a small matter, but I get you.
Actually I believe Ani did in fact know that she knew who he was, he wanted her to slip into the dark side and become his apprentice.
She also has one of the most bad ass fight scenes in Star Wars history.
You can claim all these reasons why her story doesnt make sense and you can even pretend that you know exactly what Vader would or should do but truth is, you aint the writer bud.
Fan need to stop with all this dumbass "we know more than the owners of the IP" bs.
These are stories, thats it, you dont get to control it nor is it yours.
She was hated because she was Black just like Finn was passed over as being the focus of the new trilogy because he was Black.
The only Black person yall happen to like is one who stars in movies written by a white man who loves the use of the n word.
Its hilarious how surface level your dislike of my people is.
And you do realize that the rebels were terrorists
Obi Wan went 10 YEARS without hearing the name Darth Vader??? Never once at work or in Mos Eisley did someone mention the name of the Empire’s 2nd-in-command and most feared individual in the entire galaxy around Obi Wan??? Even more unbelievable is no sin removal for this. Bail never thought it might be wise to tell Kenobi, “Hey, since your protecting the boy who might end up being of some importance one day, be on the look out for Darth Vader because he’s alive and pure evil. Especially since Luke is living with his only remaining family”. Also… the fact they removed sins for Obi-Wan Kenobi but not a single one for Dune (2021)….WTF
There's also the fact that Obi Wan has heard the name Darth Vader before and should already know who he is.
Yoda to Obi Wan in Revenge of the Sith: "Twisted by the dark side young Skywalker has become. The boy you trained, gone he is. Consumed by Darth Vader."
Darth Vader isn't the "Vice President" of the Empire - he's just the most dangerous mother****er going after insurgents and the Empire doesn't advertise him. Do you know, without Googling, who is the Commanding Officer of US Special Operations? I bet you a guy living alone in his cabin in Idaho doesn't.
@@connerclark8821 haha…who calls Vader a “vice president”? I did not know emperors had VPs?
Palpatine is his master (1st in command), he is the apprentice (2nd). Darth Vader is the strongest representative of the Emperor in the Imperial fleet. He gives orders, and will kill Admirals who fail him. The only individual with whom he must obey and follow the orders of his master, the Emperor. The only person who can punish Vader for his failure in protecting the Death Star, and get away this was his master the Emperor. There are a very select few with whom Vader will comply with in receiving an order from. One of them is Tarkin, because he has a trusted and successful long history of working alongside Tarkin.
I ask you, what was Vader’s rank? It’s Supreme Commander of the Imperial Forces who oversaw the military directly. He was only outranked by Emperor Palpatine.
I don't find it particularly surprising that Vader isn't mentioned on Tatooine.
It doesn't seem like Kenobi is making much if any effort to stay informed on the state of the galaxy and the planet is fairly isolated from the empire since it's ruled by the Hutts.
Even after 9? More years the empire still doesn't control or really bother with the planet by time episode 4 starts.
Personally I find it more weird that inquisitors show up looking for another Jedi but never figure out that Obi-wan and Luke are hanging out there.
32:25 Best thing is that the Base was already attacked by Cal Kestis so their reasoning makes even less sense. Also they basically copied the Games events with the Fortress.
Yup but somehow the game did it way better
@@User-kq3od I agree.
The duel between Obiwan and Vader was also extremely similar to Ahsoka vs Vader. It kind of felt like this show was made to show off those cool moments to people who wouldn't watch an animated show or play a videogame
@@Tallermage It shows that the writers are really lazy.
The funny thing about "I'm looking for my daughter" is that the line is delivered to his actual daughter
For sin 29… you should’ve also acknowledged that Obi-Wan is seeing the flashbacks as they happened in the movies from OUR perspective instead of HIS perspective.
...when has Star Wars ever had a POV shot? Only example I can think of is of Iden Versio's droid in the opening level of Battlefront II (and maybe a whip pan when Leia is looking for whoever she heard stepping on a twig; right before she meets Wicket?)
Here's a sin - if Obi-Wan and Leia have this extensive history together, why does her recorded message in Star Wars make it sound like she's never met him in person?
And yes, you are dealing with the kind of person who expects prequels to be consistent with the chronologically earlier movies. That's the risk you take when you piggyback on someone else's vision.
I rated this show a 3/10 but the obi wan v Vader showdown made me revise my rating to 6/10. That scene was really worth enduring the oh so many "super easy barely an inconvenience" moments of the show
Pitch meeting tv sins crossover?
Rebels did it better imo, wish they did something a bit new, and Obi wan not just leaving vader alive (again)
oh you mean the,"naah it'll be foine" moments
False Clone Troopers are well known for their competence and combat abilities
You forgot to add a sin for the fact that Reva surviving this brings up a LOT of questions. Just one being, if she survived this why didn't she show up in movie 4? I could go on, but I won't.
No, you should. It's simply not possible. They did not purchase this franchise to do it good. It is a vessel for agenda. That is all.
I actually like the idea of Reva, I just wish she had been introduced somewhere else along the way
All Obi-wan had to sat was you and I both know what the empire is capable of, we need to get her back. Then Rokin could have said sometimes you can't then exposite his back story
I can't imagine how much time it takes to make just one of these videos. Nice job!! Very entertaining!
I am glad that I am not the only one who pondered the question, why there are weighted companion cubes in a galaxy, far far away...
The funny part is when Leia was threatening them with who her father was, if she had used her REAL father they would have been shitting themselves. Imagine Taken with Vader in the Liam Neeson role.
sin obi wan’s lightsaber acting like a bat in episode 4
How can you make Kenobi troll harder?
[T-Pose Kenobi]
But in all fairness, the writers do have some things to answer for:
1. Which stargate address did wounded, marooned Reva dial to get off that planet and over to Tattooine DURING the pursuit of the Path escape transport?
2. Where are the star destroyer's tractor beams??
3. Where are the star destroyer's multiple squadrons of TIE Fighters???
4. What TARDIS portable hole Tomfoolery did they use to store that hyperspace capable dropship inside The escape transport, launch it from a ramp barely wide enough for a T47 airspeeder, And where did they put all the massed refugees while they vented the cargo bay/hangar to do all that????
Pretty. But DUMB.
Reva clearly has a teleporting plot device.
She looks in the entry of the "Path" escape route, and somehow magically ends up in front of running Leia, without being out of breath either.
Won't lie, the entire time Reva was on Tatooine, I was hoping that she'd get Darth Maul's death from Legends, with Uncle Owen shooting her to death
Vader couldn't normally just pull down a ship. His hatred made that possible and it took everything to do that. He's spent when the 2nd ship left.
Why not? He is one of the most powerful force users - ever. Why would he be spent? Surely he would be MORE angry that he was decieved. Not spent enough to fight Reva with ease. Do you work at Disney?
I can definitely see him being worn out from dragging a ship back to the ground against the power of its engines. The fight with Reva would still be a breeze because she's just not that good, she couldn't take on Kenobi at his worst so that's pretty consistent imo.
So I find it very believable that he couldn't pull down a ship for a second time in a row.
Whoa I knew this show had its flaws and I have only seen a tiny bit, but I just realized this video is an hour long, for only the first season....
Time to grab my popcorn.🍿
forgot to sin how much the lightsabers now function as bats when obi wan literally hit a stormtrooper and his lightsaber did not even go straight through the armor when its supposed to cuz the armor isnt beskar
Watch disney doesnt understand lightsabers by robot head. they have been doing it for ages
I can't believe you didn't sin the fact that both Reva and the Grand Inquisitor were fatally stabbed and somehow inexplicably still alive
Well, the grand inquisitor was more or less explained. Apparently, he has two stomachs. So apparently, the fatal looking stab wasn't fatal 🤷♂️
Also, with the dark side, most darkside users can absorb more punishment that other being. Take for example darthmaul, he was sliced in half and survived with robotic legs.
Yeah still bullshit. 1.These aren’t real sith they’re inquisitors. 2. Maul survived because he literally poured all of his hatred to the point of permanent insanity to stay alive. And he wasn’t human. Also Maul was a highly skilled force user that trained under PALPATINE. His survival should’ve been a “damn he’s the only badass to ever survive a fatal lightsaber blow and live to tell about it” to “eh, even a inquisitor could pull that off…no biggie”
@@loganisaninja Exactly. Maul should be the exception! I bet Qui-Gon is mad he didnt think of that, just be a bit angry and live
Won't lie, the entire time Reva was on Tatooine, I was hoping that she'd get Darth Maul's death from Legends, with Uncle Owen shooting her to death
Just because *some* people hate on Reva because of race (which is wrong) doesn't mean that the majority of people who dislike Reva are racist...nor that the character deserves 3 sins off. This is a poorly written character and the lines are delivered awkwardly. I'm sure the actress is a wonderful person IRL and she deserves respect, but she doesn't work well in this show. Stop assuming people don't like characters because they are of a certain race. The original trilogy includes beloved characters who are female (Leia) or black (Lando and Darth Vader) or white and set the bar very high and most of the new characters from the new shows and movies just suck in comparison.
How old is that dead fish if Tatooine has been a desert planet for at least 25 yrs?
The issue with the 9th sin is that clones were supposed to be better soldiers than the stormtrooper recruits and conscripts who replaced them. Clone troopers never had the same reputation for incompetence.
5:38 Ugh why do so many people think Obi-Wan is disillusioned and given up here??
He's guarding the children of Anakin, so that when they grow up, they may be powerful enough to kill both Vader and the Emperor, and save the galaxy.
You can see in his face a pain at what he says himself, and pushing a Jedi away. But he *must* keep the twins safe and secret at all costs.
Because he should still help? He is a jedi. Like how he did with Ezra in Rebels. Could have at least told him where he could go to escape
Everything wrong with obi wan kenobi:
EVERYTHING
Wrong
I agree!
I love how many of my jokes that I made in my head make its way to these episodes LOL... the Scooby-Do reference was what I came up with when I saw that episode LOL and I remember wondering to myself if TVSINS will make the same reference then I laughed so hard when you guys did. And no no I am not saying we should collab LOL just neat when professionals come up with similar jokes here and there.
“Professionals” lol.
I was waiting for this one to be done on tv sins love the content
I like how he just turns into a giggly fanboy whenever Obi-Wan turns on his lightsaber
Leia tells us in Return of the Jedi that she barely remembers her mother, this show gets that family dynamic wrong from episode one
The Inquisitors start by saying "The Jedi can't help but help people", then "The Jedi would never help you", to the same group of bystanders
How have the Organa family not thought to put a tracking device on Lola by the time she's eventually kidnapped?
Leia is kidnapped and the family does nothing, when calling in the authorities would have forced the Inquisitors to hand her back
A fake jedi makes a living on the outlaw world, and no real Jedi thought to actually hide here
Reva tracks Obi to Leia by his connection to the Organas. What connection? There is no connection that anyone could possibly know about, that's the whole point of hiding her on Alderaan
"Anakin/Vader is alive!" is a reveal which surprises exactly zero
Just a few sins I noticed
Dear Disney: this list should not have been an hour long
Sin for 10 years of prep to throw condoms filled with jello at your friends 😂 Love your work btw!
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Why does the Grand Inquisitor talk like Christopher Walken?
Your criticism of the criticism directed at Moses is one of misunderstanding. The criticism directed towards Moses' character has nothing to do with the skin color (although there are racist trolls everywhere, on both sides mind you), the stern vitriol Moses was subjected to is the same that the character Rey has been subjected to.
Women are portrayed as OP two-dimensional omnipotent gods who need no training in order to succeed.
Moses should not know that the name of Darth Vader is Anakin. Period.
The third sister is just another all-knowing Rey.
Damn, I feel we should've cleared 400 sins for this one. Others have already brought up some that could've been added to the tally.
I think the biggest sin is hiring Joby Harold when he had so little experience writing anything and the things he HAD written(Awake, King Arthur: Legend of the Sword, Army of the Dead) were frelling terrible!
I wonder how many people who loved the series initially have watched this video and changed their minds and how many stand by it.
The biggest sin is Reva coming back, from what most would think is canon death, to attempt to fulfill vader's wish of ending all remaining jedi (somehow she knows where and who luke is) instead of pursuing the grand inquisitor, knowing vader would be chasing kenobi
19:05 I think that here he was referencing Duchess Satine and not Padmé, but I may be wrong
I love how you call them toxic and racist fans when the biggest complaint was in a show about Obi-Wan they focus more on a character nobody gives to shites about. And we're supposed to like her by the end because she does 1 good thing despite all the evil she's done.
Not to mention Obi-Wan is a moron in his own show.
Biggest sin was not just sinning every second reva was on screen and no, not because she's a black woman. She's an absolutely horrible character that has no purpose other than not making any sense.
@Elijah I agree. She is a really good actress. I hate that her character was so terribly written. They gave her the Finn treatment 😢
Liam Neison shows up AT THE END of a series about a young girl being kidnapped?????
Dude, stopped watching @ 8:52 after you portray criticizing bad/over acting as racist!
The binocular that Obi-Wan was using has regular numbers on it instead of Aurebesh
Qui Gon but not forgotten had me weak
Haven't watched it yet, but kinda surprised this is only an hour long...
"General Kenobi. Years ago you served my father in the Clone Wars, and i have been neuralized by the Men in Black so i forgot i was kidnapped, hunted by bounty hunters and inquistors and that you rescued me. Now he begs you to help him against the Empire. I regret that i am unable to present...." R2 has the full message.
You know they shot the Vader/Kenobi scenes first because Ewan was acting the rest like how we felt watching. Poor guy first the prequel drama now this.. He is still my favorite Obi-Wan tied with Alec.
Leia literally has the running form of a toddler. That chase scene was comedy gold and as cheesy as the power rangers
21:00 To be completely fair, the first time the helmet comes off in our timeline is in 'Empire', and it uses this same approach... They changed it up for 'Jedi' and all subsequent removals in the past(figure that one out, kids...)
Ha ha. You got a like because. When u said. Leia will see it in pieces. Lol
Dont forget you can criticize a character without it being because of their skin color. Though sometimes even skin color does play a small part based on the ethnicity of a fictional location
I criticize Reva not because of her skin color, but because the character was badly written and makes no sense. The fact that Disney is willing to call fans racist just because they criticize someone of color shows that all they care about is "representation" and not storytelling. It sucks.
@@BrandontheAwesome It was funny how they did it before the show even came out. Like they knew she would be criticised, and had to deflect that with nuh uh racist. I get there were some actual racist assholes out there. But they never did that for other black actors
@@BrandontheAwesome Yes.
"Father, aren't you going to say hello?"
Obi Wan: " *Hello There* "
I dont hate reva cause of her race i just hate how annoying her character was.
You missed the drive for the lightsaber bounce
The biggest Sin is that TV sin not realising there is no Season 2.
I simultaneously hate you for making fun of everything I love, and love you for being so god damned eloquent and funny about it.
The biggest problem with the show is that there were absolutely no stakes. Obi-Wan, Leia, Luke, and Darth Vader/Anakin are all encased in plot armor. The writers completely overestimated how exciting the "Obi-Wan gets his powers back" arc was.
In my opinion the biggest sin this series has is Obi-Wan defeating Vader despite not using the Force nor a Lightsaber for 10 years while Vader has only been getting stronger, more experienced, more skilled & more knowledgeable about the Force. 2nd biggest is Reva somehow figuring out that Luke is Vader's son.
1:11 I lmaoed at the ease in wiggly effect made in adobe after effects
You get a sin for thinking the 501st clone troopers are anywhere near as incompetent as the average stormtrooper.
I really don't like what the recent media done to Vader's character. Between this, Rebels, Rogue 1, and Fallen Order, Vader is looking less like the unstoppable hand of the Emperor's will and more like some poor shmuck who gets bested by any main character he encounters. In the lore, this show takes place at the height of his power. He's in the middle of a nearly completely successful campaign to eliminate the remaining Jedi and the story treats him as though that's how powerful he is. If the writers want to maintain that essence of his character, maybe they should stop putting him in situations where he needs to loose for the plot to happen.
I love the fight vs Reva because it demonstrates how an encounter with Darth Vader should go. He mops the floor with her and doesn't even bother to use a lightsaber until halfway through the fight. That's the Darth Vader that these writers want us to see, but the Vader they keep presenting to us is one who makes dumb mistakes, who is always just a moment too late, who's force abilities are suddenly neutered by the last ditch efforts of the protagonist, etc. etc. ad nauseum. I wish writers would stop relying on the idea of Darth Vader and start actually showing him live up to the lore and gravitas they imbue him with.
You also missed a pretty blatant sin in the Vader vs Obi round 2 fight. Darth Vader, who, as he lay crippled on the bank of a lava flow, his flesh bursting into flames as he writhed, mustered the strength to scream "I hate you!" at his life long friend, mentor, master, teacher, and brother in arms, and who in this very show tried to mutilate Obi-Wan with fire, throws this man into a pit then decides, "You know what, I'm going to let some rocks and gravity inflict revenge for me." rather than jumping down into that pit after him and hacking Obi-Wan into as many pieces as he possibly could.
Vader flies down to the planet... and asks ObiWan if HE CAME TO DESTROY VADER... Vader YOU came to HIM
Light sabers actually have a training mode. Non lethal
The show isnt really about Obi-Wan.
Ding!
Video over.
44:58
One of the coolest Vader feats we've seen in the movies or shows and we gonna act like that didn't deserve a removal?
Choke. Aspirations.
I remember watching this and thinking the futuristic city scape looks like downtown China, Blade Runner and futuristic Time Square all at once! The blend old-fashioned with modern with futuristic with ancient times, with medieval times, and a bit of Renaissance and back to futuristic again LMAO... and blending Asian, Egyptian, Middle Eastern, European cultural dress, architect and artwork and their above mentioned cross era versions.
Obi two kenobi fucking killed me😂😂😂😂😂
Qui gon but not forgotten!!!!
25:42 gots to be the funniest part lol
companion cubes... just, lol.
Obi-Wan: *is given the task of watching over Luke*
Also Obi-Wan: *abandons his duty after a few years to go rescue/kidnap Luke's sister*
Well, for all its sins, I still enjoyed it. Lovely world building, shame about the direction.
Obi killing Darth/Ani at this moment probably makes a better story/timeline
1:43 How do you constantly mix up Clones with Stormtroopers?
13:23 new rockstars noticed it too
Stormies did he just call CLONE troopers stormies honestly I’m not mad I’m just disappointed
The whole thing breaks lore in so many fundamental ways
order 66 was carried out by clone troups not stormtroups, the clones were extremely good fighters... and the only ones with the the mental manipulation imbedded in them to know what a "order 66" even is xD
Anyone who doesn't shed a tear or two when Vader absolves Obi-Wan of failure deserves a hundred sins of their own.
bro really called the clones incompetent
41:35 It’s a cliche I have seen many times. In Guardians of the galaxy 2, Groot had to go in Ego’s core to set off the bomb.
44:10 they’re dueling sabers some thing that we’ve seen since the original movies
Like what the young Padawan‘s had
Too weak to cut but strong enough to go through the motions and deflect laser bolt still
Obiwan has trouble using the force because he is out of practice.
Makes sense.
EXCEPT.
Didn't the sequels teach us that practice doesn't matter where the force is concerned?
Or is that only for Rey?
1 year old already!!!
This is another one of the enjoyable side stories Disney and Lucasfilm Ltd. have concocted not only expanding the story of one of the most infamous Star Wars characters but giving fans a lot more to chew on with fun action and more depth
Thankfully it doesn’t feel constrained by many of the mistakes Lucas kept making but certainly makes things more grounded in realism and with conflicting emotions
Shame Doug Walker thought this show was bad
Like Shyamalan level bad
To be fair, we all have unresolved issues with the Phantom Menace PC game.
The troopers overrunning the temple are not “stormies” but are clone troopers. Plus one sin to you good sir for saying any troopers in white armor have the brain capacity of jar jar. Clones are smart.
Hey, I have a ten year old. You can't catch them.
38:35 They're using practice saber probably
Those were not Storm Troopers in Order 66, they were Clone Troopers which were far more capable.
In Temple there were not Storm Troopers but battle-proven Clone Troopers.
I also thought that forest chase was almost enough to turn it off but my curiosity was the better and i ended up enjoying the show in whole. I just dont think its worth rewatching