@@genesisosuna The fact people want 2cp back don't consider how stressed out tank players got during the mode. Flats mentioned how tanks had way too much to micromanage in 2cp while dps and supports just have fun
@@P.H691 now imagine it with ONE TANK! Ngl Numbani in attacks always gives me ptsd, it's the worst map to play tank on, it's just not build for a single tank teamplay. The chokes are unreal and is probably the second worst memory i have next to hanamura or volskaya
@@LightingCatxD100% facts First point on numbani as an tank when attacking pisses me off cuz if you don't play dva the enemy widow just fucks you entire team off the 4 highgrounds she just grapples around
If anyone says “OW2 didn’t need PvE” or “There are better PvE games out there” that isn’t the point. OW1 has a dry spill while OW2 was in development for like 3 years and then OW2 released without its main selling point. The PvE is what would’ve made OW2 feel like a sequel instead of “The Biggest Patch in History.” It not coming is almost a spit in the face of everyone who waited for it and wanted to play OW2 for the PvE.
yeah no the people saying ow2 didn't need pve are full of shit. Without PVE there's no reason for ow2 to even exist other than to be a money making machine from the battlepass.
17:44 Your reaction to this one is 100% fact. The overwhelming majority of people just want to play a game to have fun. Some of us work (or school in some form, for that matter) all day and don't want to work when we're at home playing a game at night as well. We just want to relax and play. Back in the day, fun was the undeniable ground state of gaming. Now, the ground state is getting more and more like work and grind.
When I played OW it was mostly just for fun, but I also liked to dabble in Competitive a little since being in a team of mostly-equivalent players in terms of skill against another equal team appeals to me. Stomping a match because you got a lucky team in QP just isn't exciting or fun to me. But I'm not gonna waste hours of my life to get an ego boost and try to get like masters in 2 weeks. I'm currently in gold and that's fine for me, though with how long I've been playing (since 2016), and only now trying comp I feel like I'm probably at least plat in terms of skill and game sense, maybe low diamond if I were to sweat my heart out since the gameplay I see of comp matches in those ranks really doesn't look that different from how I play. So yes, play because it's fun but there's definitely some fun to be had in comp, it's not all just playing to improve.
That video was absolutely just engagement manipulation. Unless that person is 10 years old and doesn’t know about games before esports, they 100% played games for fun when they were younger, or saw others playing for fun. He said it so people would flame him in the comments and boost his video to get more views, which is kinda sad if he’s that desperate for attention from strangers.
Anyone else remember when Jared said “soon” and that we’ll find out that it’s not blizzard soon it’s Jared soon? Guess we should be terrified anytime Jared says “soon” since it actually means “never”
@@IsThatKris I was a quickplay Quinton until season 4 just because of how bad the balancing was. I collect sprays and I didn't even care that bad lmfao
Flats just know that no matter what you decide to do, what game you decide to play, what content you choose to react to, we as a community will always enjoy the rant filled, laugh filled, hyper focused, and daily sandwich videos, you and your team create. Keep your head held high, we are behind you!
Flats, please, Kiriko's EPIC quality/priced Visual K skin has more detail than her Tatsumaki skin, with similar changes. New hair, thigh highs on her legs, rather than tights, and a new color pallet that ISN'T flat black. You can like it all you want, that's all gucchi, but it's 100% not worthy of being called a Legendary. It's about as worthy as Moira's mime skin. On top of that, we have countless higher quality Epics, even some released in OW2.
Think it’s considered a “legendary” skin cause it’s a colab skin and by default colab skins are automatically legendary if you can buy them in the shop. Could be wrong though
4:34 this is accurately describing Blizzard and the game lmao Edit: Actually, ActiBliz should be the new name of the company. Blizzard died when Activision took over. It's just ActiBliz now.
14:20 Lets remember that echo wasnt even announced as a release for Ow1. Sigma was supposed to be the last. Then they decided to move echo from Ow2 to Ow1 (april 2020) because of all the crap that was going on at the time regarding overwatch (Blitzchung controversy, october-december 2019).
2019 was already considered dead regarding overwatch content, halfway through the year. They released 2 heroes before June, and then said there wouldnt be any more heroes until Ow2 release, which was announced at that year's blizzcon.
17:48 As a casual player who never goes in Comp cus im not interested, like Flats said, Im having fun just playing the game and messing around in Arcade, Unranked and in Fan Made game modes. I dont wanna stress myself out to be a perfect player for my team and then get yelled at for just playing a character. All i want is have fun, make friends and enjoy the game while its still here. Not everything has to be competitive. It would be like if Minecraft were only for speedruns, its stupid.
Real, and then you have the people in unranked who expect everyone to tryhard and counter pick and all that other stuff as if it’s comp. Like I’m just here to try out new heroes bro 😭
I got defense on a coin flip on Hanamura back when the only defense hero I knew how to play well was Mei. We actually won, a Reinhardt held his shield at the gate and i put up an ice wall whenever his shield was about to break
@@computernoise2209 lmao people still don't know how to play it... only difference is now everyone acts like they know, but they don't. I mean, we went 6 whole years and the vast majority of players still didn't learn how to pass a choke 😂
@3:50 completely agree on the Kiriko skin. These are cosplays, Kiriko repurposed her black dress, bought a wig and wore some high heels - not every cosplayer goes as hard as Doomfist. Doomfist is just that nerdy I guess.
@@devoid4661 I'm playing devil's advocate here, it speaks to the lore of the characters. Obviously video game characters are not real, thank you for stating the obvious though XD
@@ZeroKami86 "It speaks to the lore of the characters" yeah, someone like Doomfist, a dude who's all about war and "survival of the fittest" would be that into cosplay. the only devil you're advocating for is Bobby, the man who's already taking your money and Microsoft's money to buy 13 new yachts. On the flipside, making a copout for laziness in the design for a skin by saying "it fits the LoRe" when the game JUST cancelled the most lore intensive mode is almost as tone deaf as Blizzard. It's a lazy skin; whether it looks good or not to anyone is subjective, but the effort to fit Tatsumaki is not there at all, especially for 20+ dollars.
Moira is essentially empty stats in high ranks. I've seen moiras with 12k+ healing and 7k+ damage and their team gets absolutely stomped. And yes, this has happened to me and against me
15:54 Using a clip of push for the part where she calls it a "sad, underwhelming, and disappointing game" is disrespectful, that's my favorite game mode
Jared and Jon did a podcast with SVB and specifically said that they weren’t pulling resources from PvE to make PvP and vice versa. So I guess that was a lie because their excuse has always been that they have to focus on one or the other.
The sad thing is that they have the basics for PvE in game, but wont expand on it. Their plan from the start was obviously the battle pass and shop. They had no true plans for PvE.
To be honest, I absolutely don't care about the pve content in overwatch 2. But it makes me wildly angry that, in fact, Blizzard hasn't done anything for 4 years. They have been doing PVE for 4 years, which will not happen, and PVP at this time suffered like no one else. It was a game with huge potential and development paths, but the developers killed it. P.S: Even in overwatch 1, new heroes came out and they were broken in a good or bad way. So what prevents them from just releasing new heroes at least once a month, to begin with, just in a casual mod, collect data from MILLIONS of players who will already play on it and make him the right patch? And it seems to me that absolutely no one, that's no one at all, will be upset if we get the plot of the character and his story not immediately, but just after 3-4 months.
No it was never the dev teams fault for this they said in the announcement that they scrapped it basically when the game came out this is all on the higher ups
@@The-kn33s_bee It's their fault. They did very few balance changes, released few new heroes that would breathe new life into the game, they released the same thematic content every year
Overwatch promising that the years without any new content for ow would be worth it and then leaving us behind is like you telling ur friends to wait for u to tie ur shoe and then dipping
My cynical theory is that the dev team couldn’t figure out a good way to monetize the PvE skill trees, so they were told to cut it since Actiblizz wasn’t going to see a ROI with it. Actiblizz genuinely only care about money now, and if an idea gets brought to the table that isn’t going to actively make money, then it isn’t worth doing at all.
Was playing ram and having a 1v1 against the enemy rein. Their rein was easily under 100 hp and i had only been hit once, then our LW decides to pull me into the enemy orisa ult that’s at full charge and i get destroyed 😭 It’s always situations like that or the LW is such a non-factor in the match it becomes 4v5
@@KikiCatMeowI always get pulled out of slam as ball, and sometimes I get pulled away from health packs. Last night I was about to get a 4k because they were all backed into a corner surrouned by mines... Right before I rolled into them, I got pulled away. I was on 250 health, adaptive shield was available, and no one was even looking my way.
i straight up don't care about the pve hero missions and stuff being cancelled since that's not what I play the game for, I just don't care for it. but it really does suck that it happened, and is very confusing how 4 years of deveopement from a biuig company yeilds no results, as far is it seems they made 1 showcase and stopped edvelopement after that
I'm sorry that them over promising effed up your content. All I've wanted since project titan is hero missions so I feel spanked, but I'm actually glad pvpers will just trudge along. Comforting
I hate to say this but they don't need more content they need to refine the content they have, every new character is completely unbalanced, and the old characters are basically either unplayable as meta, too strong, or only picked to counter meta
You should care because they lied to us for 6 months (let's be honest, it was longer than that), pumped a lot of resources into it which half of it was wasted, and was the entire reason Overwatch 2 started (which I don't have the explain the disaster and removed feature this caused to the game). Stop mindlessly ignoring Blizzard's mistakes just because you "don't care". And so many people wonder why we have so many broken games on release these days...
19:15 once I was playing ball and LITERALLY MID AIR, ABOUT TO PILEDRIVE THE LIVING HELL OUT OF THEIR ANA when the weaver yoinked me away. I then got slept and headshotted by a widow and I was livid.
10:34 So, what other game do I play though? Apex, Valorant, Fortnite, CSGO, and any others I don’t remember, all have shops, cosmetics, and battlepasses. There’s no Pay-to-Play games that are shooters, hero-based, and have a bright & cartoony style, that also don’t have shops or BattlePasses.
@@dodonpa-1 yeah sure but there’s still a wayyyyy higher chance of Genji x Mercy being a thing than Pharah x Mercy, for one, Gency is a much more popular ship, for another, making Mercy gay or bi and putting her in a relationship with Pharah would probably be more than Blizzard would let slide.
As a software developer, personally nothing feels worse than spending hundreds of hours working on a project that is SICK as hell, and then being told it isn't going to be released.
Finally flats being once not absolutely anti moira xD I absolutely agree, she isn't as op or powerful like people think, but she is absolutely flexible and have the best survivability in the team and the heals can be HARDCORE my boyfriend once had all the supports heals vounted together as HIS healing stat! He is insane on moira, he always got you covered no matter the scenario, I get out of the blue flanked off team? No prob he got me covered? Or dps that dies almost in the enemies backline? 3 secs later covered too! He always hunts for best heal stats in lobby 😂 And he is actually always really frustrated if he lets someone die. Tho sometimes when he picks moura people are immediately complaining just to later thank him for the amazing saves. It's somtimes really based tbh
OW2 PVE content is pretty much: you order a delivery of an amazing, juicy burger from a posh place, excitedly wait for it to arrive, you open the box and find a McDonalds cheeseburger inside.
I screamed CAP!!!! so fucking LOUD for the Mercy question, I just CAN'T have Mercy being the most popular.... I CAN'T HANDLE THAT! The PTSD is too strong!
About Moira: Individually speaking, her effectiveness exclusively depends on your playstyle. If your playstyle is passive and not constantly value-seeking, then yes she'll be bad in higher ranks cus you're not playing into her strengths, and a hero like Ana offers more baseline value from passive predictable comfortable playstyles most players are used to (not to say that's how you play Ana optimally either, you just get more value from suboptimal plays if you play Ana or Kiriko, than you do with Moira in higher ranks). The reason Moira isn't picked in pro play, is EXCLUSIVELY because she doesn't offer any ability synergy with the team comps that are meta. She has been picked on occasion in full-team dive (more frequently seen in Asia teams for semi pro / contenders), but in general she herself doesn't contribute to a synergy-based win condition built around team work, and since pro scene is 90% teamwork and 10% individual hero potential, that's why she isn't picked. If you play an individualist playstyle in the pro scene you will get farmed no matter what hero you play. But ranked ladder is forced to be individualist no matter what, so here your hero pick doesn't detract from the team synergy value nearly as much as in pro play. Compare apples to apples, guys. And learn the fundamentals of the game before forming broader opinions.
@@Ahmad_Jihad Moira is great at letting you control the potential for value and influence you have in a match, from her quick access to offensive pressure and mobility letting her take chances and opportunities other supports simply can't afford to do. It's also easy to throw with her if you don't respect your limitations, but her kit is centered around seeking impactful pressure more than anything else. Picking Moira for heals on the other hand, especially in high ranks, is a trap that leaves most of her potential unused.
@@Real_MisterSir Yes! Moira is literally half damage half heal, you have to get value out of her damage as well as her fast heals, knowing when to do which and having the game sense and strategic knowlege of the maps and hero abilities should enable you to apply pressure and get kills with your team as well as heals, but I think she is hard to play because she needs constant decisions and there is no known go-to strategy to play her as far as I know
I remember I was told to count my blessings because we are still getting PvE missions. Guess we should be grateful we were spit in the face instead of punched
i will never forgive blizzard for making that Bastion skin 1 coin...ever since i got it its been annoying me that i have a annoying number... 649 instead of 650
17:56 not everyone wants to que up in quick play and be hyper competitive. If you want to be hyper competitive, theres ranked but its a small minority and most people just want to pick their favorite character and play and have fun. Ranking up comes in second for most of the people.
17:45 former casual here who spent most of my time in OW playing Mystery Heroes... because it's fun. I tried competitive in some of the early seasons just for shits and giggles and wound up placing gold and silver, but after that I just stuck to casual, because there was always someone who assigned themselves as the team leader and gave everyone else shit if things didn't go well. Fuck that. Oh, and I said "former" because fuck ActiBlizz. Haven't bought or played any of their games for like, three years now.
It’s just sad. I have played so much overwatch over the years. I can’t even imagine how someone like Flats feels with how much he’s invested into this cursed game.
It's sad how Lifeweaver is actually really good in like gold or lower ranks, but no one that uses him down there are good. Whenever I'm down there I play him to save our tank from literally dying alone in the enemy backline. It's also hood for getting Reinheart a free pin then pulling him right before he dies.
SMH my head. More and more I see what people say about moira having so little utility but I successfully play her at mid-high gm, have a solid 70% win rate in role queue.
I know they say that the campaign isn't canceled... but we are also not getting the campaign experience that we were promised... Beyond not knowing if they will let you play it after the season is done.... we will be getting the same story over years instead of all at once... without the Hero progression... And who is to say we are going to end up with the extensive missions they were planning? Or will we only get a streamlined version of it...
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The moment when the coin flip chooses your team as defenders on 2cp will forever bewilder me on how that feature ever got implemented.
Whoever attacked in 2cp after the coinflip lost the game 99% of the time
@@genesisosuna The fact people want 2cp back don't consider how stressed out tank players got during the mode. Flats mentioned how tanks had way too much to micromanage in 2cp while dps and supports just have fun
@@P.H691 now imagine it with ONE TANK!
Ngl Numbani in attacks always gives me ptsd, it's the worst map to play tank on, it's just not build for a single tank teamplay.
The chokes are unreal and is probably the second worst memory i have next to hanamura or volskaya
@@LightingCatxD100% facts
First point on numbani as an tank when attacking pisses me off cuz if you don't play dva the enemy widow just fucks you entire team off the 4 highgrounds she just grapples around
Them long temple of drawnubis matches ending in a coinflip got me so heated
If anyone says “OW2 didn’t need PvE” or “There are better PvE games out there” that isn’t the point. OW1 has a dry spill while OW2 was in development for like 3 years and then OW2 released without its main selling point. The PvE is what would’ve made OW2 feel like a sequel instead of “The Biggest Patch in History.” It not coming is almost a spit in the face of everyone who waited for it and wanted to play OW2 for the PvE.
yeah no the people saying ow2 didn't need pve are full of shit. Without PVE there's no reason for ow2 to even exist other than to be a money making machine from the battlepass.
Not even the biggest patch in history it was just a larger than normal patch.
17:44 Your reaction to this one is 100% fact.
The overwhelming majority of people just want to play a game to have fun. Some of us work (or school in some form, for that matter) all day and don't want to work when we're at home playing a game at night as well. We just want to relax and play.
Back in the day, fun was the undeniable ground state of gaming. Now, the ground state is getting more and more like work and grind.
When I played OW it was mostly just for fun, but I also liked to dabble in Competitive a little since being in a team of mostly-equivalent players in terms of skill against another equal team appeals to me. Stomping a match because you got a lucky team in QP just isn't exciting or fun to me. But I'm not gonna waste hours of my life to get an ego boost and try to get like masters in 2 weeks. I'm currently in gold and that's fine for me, though with how long I've been playing (since 2016), and only now trying comp I feel like I'm probably at least plat in terms of skill and game sense, maybe low diamond if I were to sweat my heart out since the gameplay I see of comp matches in those ranks really doesn't look that different from how I play. So yes, play because it's fun but there's definitely some fun to be had in comp, it's not all just playing to improve.
Step 1: Ultrakill
Step 2: Fun
That video was absolutely just engagement manipulation. Unless that person is 10 years old and doesn’t know about games before esports, they 100% played games for fun when they were younger, or saw others playing for fun. He said it so people would flame him in the comments and boost his video to get more views, which is kinda sad if he’s that desperate for attention from strangers.
@@Diphenhydra any wonder why there’s so much hype around PvE being cancelled? Everyone is shitting out content over it
Overwatch comp players discovering fun for the first time
Anyone else remember when Jared said “soon” and that we’ll find out that it’s not blizzard soon it’s Jared soon? Guess we should be terrified anytime Jared says “soon” since it actually means “never”
Thank you so much for this comment, literally made my day.
He was actually right, he said we will *hear news* about the PvE soon, Jared soon.... He was basically exciting us to the cancelation news
bro imagine if you went on a trip with jared and he says "we'll be there soon, guys" 💀
As a casual player, I have no reason to play Overwatch anymore.
Same!
you're not a casual if you are watching overwatch content
@@Michael-pn4xu that’s so wrong
@@Michael-pn4xu so so wrong 😂
As a potted plant, I find this comment useless.
I’ve been playing Overwatch since late 2017 and I NEVER knew coinflip was ever a thing, wow.
Bless your heart
Same. I started following OW around the time Doomfist was added.
It was a terrible time, but also a magical one
You joined too late. You got in late season 3/ season 4 and it was there from 1-2
@@IsThatKris I was a quickplay Quinton until season 4 just because of how bad the balancing was. I collect sprays and I didn't even care that bad lmfao
In moments of sadness we find a gem
The Winston noo had me crying 🤣🤣
The comedic timing on it. The pause. Oh my godddddddd flats and I wheezinggggggggg
The Australian guy stole Flats whole flow💀💀
Flats just know that no matter what you decide to do, what game you decide to play, what content you choose to react to, we as a community will always enjoy the rant filled, laugh filled, hyper focused, and daily sandwich videos, you and your team create. Keep your head held high, we are behind you!
I love how Flats seems to suffer from chronic precognition lol
Flats, please, Kiriko's EPIC quality/priced Visual K skin has more detail than her Tatsumaki skin, with similar changes. New hair, thigh highs on her legs, rather than tights, and a new color pallet that ISN'T flat black. You can like it all you want, that's all gucchi, but it's 100% not worthy of being called a Legendary. It's about as worthy as Moira's mime skin.
On top of that, we have countless higher quality Epics, even some released in OW2.
Think it’s considered a “legendary” skin cause it’s a colab skin and by default colab skins are automatically legendary if you can buy them in the shop. Could be wrong though
Just don't buy it then... It ain't hard.
4:34 this is accurately describing Blizzard and the game lmao
Edit: Actually, ActiBliz should be the new name of the company. Blizzard died when Activision took over. It's just ActiBliz now.
BlizzVision
@@kaly3877 But they don't have a vision, just greed
Thank you flats for taking 5 minutes to explain a coin flip 👍
14:20 Lets remember that echo wasnt even announced as a release for Ow1. Sigma was supposed to be the last. Then they decided to move echo from Ow2 to Ow1 (april 2020) because of all the crap that was going on at the time regarding overwatch (Blitzchung controversy, october-december 2019).
2019 was already considered dead regarding overwatch content, halfway through the year. They released 2 heroes before June, and then said there wouldnt be any more heroes until Ow2 release, which was announced at that year's blizzcon.
17:48 As a casual player who never goes in Comp cus im not interested, like Flats said, Im having fun just playing the game and messing around in Arcade, Unranked and in Fan Made game modes. I dont wanna stress myself out to be a perfect player for my team and then get yelled at for just playing a character. All i want is have fun, make friends and enjoy the game while its still here. Not everything has to be competitive. It would be like if Minecraft were only for speedruns, its stupid.
Real, and then you have the people in unranked who expect everyone to tryhard and counter pick and all that other stuff as if it’s comp. Like I’m just here to try out new heroes bro 😭
I got defense on a coin flip on Hanamura back when the only defense hero I knew how to play well was Mei. We actually won, a Reinhardt held his shield at the gate and i put up an ice wall whenever his shield was about to break
This is so quaint. How nostalgic
Game was more fun when no one knew how to play it
@@computernoise2209 all games are.
@@computernoise2209 lmao people still don't know how to play it... only difference is now everyone acts like they know, but they don't. I mean, we went 6 whole years and the vast majority of players still didn't learn how to pass a choke 😂
The Aussie Ubershouts actually just sounds exactly like Crayator
@3:50 completely agree on the Kiriko skin. These are cosplays, Kiriko repurposed her black dress, bought a wig and wore some high heels - not every cosplayer goes as hard as Doomfist. Doomfist is just that nerdy I guess.
Breh you know theyre not real people right? devs chose to reskin lmao its not that deep
@@devoid4661 I'm playing devil's advocate here, it speaks to the lore of the characters. Obviously video game characters are not real, thank you for stating the obvious though XD
@@devoid4661the devs designed them to be cosplays
@@drkirbkennethkirby7634 ahhh so thats what makes it a $21 repaint
@@ZeroKami86 "It speaks to the lore of the characters" yeah, someone like Doomfist, a dude who's all about war and "survival of the fittest" would be that into cosplay. the only devil you're advocating for is Bobby, the man who's already taking your money and Microsoft's money to buy 13 new yachts. On the flipside, making a copout for laziness in the design for a skin by saying "it fits the LoRe" when the game JUST cancelled the most lore intensive mode is almost as tone deaf as Blizzard. It's a lazy skin; whether it looks good or not to anyone is subjective, but the effort to fit Tatsumaki is not there at all, especially for 20+ dollars.
the pause in the winston one represents them stringing us along for 8 months
The stats at 17:21 are based on data from Overwatch 1, in 2018. It probably is different in Overwatch 2
Moira is essentially empty stats in high ranks. I've seen moiras with 12k+ healing and 7k+ damage and their team gets absolutely stomped. And yes, this has happened to me and against me
9:05
You two are becoming in sync
I’ve been waiting for another one of these
The Overwatch 0.9 moment was great.
I still remember back in the day when Bastion had his own shield & could heal himself. Good times. FeelsBadMan
That was fucking cancer my man. In fact, the best moment for bastion was his complete absence for a time in OW2
@@johnnypt14thats why hes my main. Cause fuck everyone else im playing my beloved overpowered weaponized roomba
For a point of reference of time, we were promised this pve before covid. That feels like a lifetime ago...
Good point, seems like no one is mentioning this. 2020 and 2021 were not just a couple of years, they felt like an eternity.
2:35
preciate you watching my vid!
was a blast to see what the chat had to say about it.
still super depressed about overwatch lol
15:54 Using a clip of push for the part where she calls it a "sad, underwhelming, and disappointing game" is disrespectful, that's my favorite game mode
I'm glad someone finally explained the coin flip to me. LUL it lasted so shortly and was gone so quick I never got to figure out how it worked.
Jared and Jon did a podcast with SVB and specifically said that they weren’t pulling resources from PvE to make PvP and vice versa. So I guess that was a lie because their excuse has always been that they have to focus on one or the other.
“Does this mean overwatch is back?”
“No”
Cinema Sins: Roll credits
can’t wait for the “roadmap has been cancelled” announcement from overpromised
I kinda want to see Flats and the Australian cooker play together
I feel bad for the hyper competitive guy towards the end who doesn't understand people can just play games for fun.
The sad thing is that they have the basics for PvE in game, but wont expand on it. Their plan from the start was obviously the battle pass and shop. They had no true plans for PvE.
3:57 i forgot why my currency was fucked up. Rip
To be honest, I absolutely don't care about the pve content in overwatch 2. But it makes me wildly angry that, in fact, Blizzard hasn't done anything for 4 years. They have been doing PVE for 4 years, which will not happen, and PVP at this time suffered like no one else. It was a game with huge potential and development paths, but the developers killed it.
P.S: Even in overwatch 1, new heroes came out and they were broken in a good or bad way. So what prevents them from just releasing new heroes at least once a month, to begin with, just in a casual mod, collect data from MILLIONS of players who will already play on it and make him the right patch? And it seems to me that absolutely no one, that's no one at all, will be upset if we get the plot of the character and his story not immediately, but just after 3-4 months.
No it was never the dev teams fault for this they said in the announcement that they scrapped it basically when the game came out this is all on the higher ups
@@The-kn33s_bee It's their fault. They did very few balance changes, released few new heroes that would breathe new life into the game, they released the same thematic content every year
@@effeilar887 they aren't allowed to do anything without approval
Overwatch promising that the years without any new content for ow would be worth it and then leaving us behind is like you telling ur friends to wait for u to tie ur shoe and then dipping
My cynical theory is that the dev team couldn’t figure out a good way to monetize the PvE skill trees, so they were told to cut it since Actiblizz wasn’t going to see a ROI with it.
Actiblizz genuinely only care about money now, and if an idea gets brought to the table that isn’t going to actively make money, then it isn’t worth doing at all.
Not just that, OW2 wanted to dominate the esports industry, but Bobby Kotick knows that people don't want to pay money to watch players shoot at NPCs.
I was playing this video in the background while doing other stuff, and the sound of the coinflip activated my fight or flight instinct instantly
19:17 I can’t go one session without a LW ruining rollout, pulling me out of ult or otherwise trolling at least once.
Was playing ram and having a 1v1 against the enemy rein. Their rein was easily under 100 hp and i had only been hit once, then our LW decides to pull me into the enemy orisa ult that’s at full charge and i get destroyed 😭
It’s always situations like that or the LW is such a non-factor in the match it becomes 4v5
@@KikiCatMeowI always get pulled out of slam as ball, and sometimes I get pulled away from health packs. Last night I was about to get a 4k because they were all backed into a corner surrouned by mines... Right before I rolled into them, I got pulled away. I was on 250 health, adaptive shield was available, and no one was even looking my way.
i straight up don't care about the pve hero missions and stuff being cancelled since that's not what I play the game for, I just don't care for it. but it really does suck that it happened, and is very confusing how 4 years of deveopement from a biuig company yeilds no results, as far is it seems they made 1 showcase and stopped edvelopement after that
Yep same here. The pvp game we loved fell off hard, and the devs have nada to show for it lmao
Yes. But you cant deny that the timesink took allot of content away from the game.
I'm sorry that them over promising effed up your content. All I've wanted since project titan is hero missions so I feel spanked, but I'm actually glad pvpers will just trudge along. Comforting
I hate to say this but they don't need more content they need to refine the content they have, every new character is completely unbalanced, and the old characters are basically either unplayable as meta, too strong, or only picked to counter meta
You should care because they lied to us for 6 months (let's be honest, it was longer than that), pumped a lot of resources into it which half of it was wasted, and was the entire reason Overwatch 2 started (which I don't have the explain the disaster and removed feature this caused to the game). Stop mindlessly ignoring Blizzard's mistakes just because you "don't care". And so many people wonder why we have so many broken games on release these days...
That coin flip gave me vietnam flashbacks.
19:15 once I was playing ball and LITERALLY MID AIR, ABOUT TO PILEDRIVE THE LIVING HELL OUT OF THEIR ANA when the weaver yoinked me away. I then got slept and headshotted by a widow and I was livid.
It's moments like this that I'm proud to be Australian. The passion is beautiful 😂❤❤
I remember coin flip, severe nightmares every time I played….💀
10:34 So, what other game do I play though? Apex, Valorant, Fortnite, CSGO, and any others I don’t remember, all have shops, cosmetics, and battlepasses. There’s no Pay-to-Play games that are shooters, hero-based, and have a bright & cartoony style, that also don’t have shops or BattlePasses.
Titanfall?
5:43
Ohr noarre.. Australian people arre soarre hoarrt
PvE feels like ive been slapped in the face with a wet spaghetti noodle
6:35 bro just discovered what cursing is 💀
rip pve, i wanted gency confirmed, pride event not helping, also f coin flip, also first, also love u flats keep going!
How is the pride event hurting the chances of Gency being canon? They didn’t say anything about Genji or Mercy.
@@Regular_Cat but pharah
@@dodonpa-1 yeah sure but there’s still a wayyyyy higher chance of Genji x Mercy being a thing than Pharah x Mercy, for one, Gency is a much more popular ship, for another, making Mercy gay or bi and putting her in a relationship with Pharah would probably be more than Blizzard would let slide.
My new thing instead of playing Overwatch 2 is watching these videos and read books.
Every Flats reacts video | Video footage volume : 25% - Flats' volume : 2357293843298% >_>
"We cancelled it to give you the quality content you deserve" well fuck where is it I'd love to have some
As a software developer, personally nothing feels worse than spending hundreds of hours working on a project that is SICK as hell, and then being told it isn't going to be released.
the sudden death coin flip triggered immense ptsd
Finally flats being once not absolutely anti moira xD
I absolutely agree, she isn't as op or powerful like people think, but she is absolutely flexible and have the best survivability in the team and the heals can be HARDCORE
my boyfriend once had all the supports heals vounted together as HIS healing stat!
He is insane on moira, he always got you covered no matter the scenario, I get out of the blue flanked off team?
No prob he got me covered?
Or dps that dies almost in the enemies backline?
3 secs later covered too!
He always hunts for best heal stats in lobby 😂
And he is actually always really frustrated if he lets someone die.
Tho sometimes when he picks moura people are immediately complaining just to later thank him for the amazing saves.
It's somtimes really based tbh
The PVE Cancel just feels like a dropout which pretended they went to school for 4 years
The coin flip era... i had forgotten all about it. Talk about PTSD..
OW2 PVE content is pretty much: you order a delivery of an amazing, juicy burger from a posh place, excitedly wait for it to arrive, you open the box and find a McDonalds cheeseburger inside.
Instead of dad left to get the milk and never came back its blizzard left to get the pve and never came back
That 0.9!!!!😂😂😂😂
Had a game yesterday, I popped ult as pharaoh, the second I do I get grabbed. We lost that game.
I screamed CAP!!!! so fucking LOUD for the Mercy question, I just CAN'T have Mercy being the most popular.... I CAN'T HANDLE THAT! The PTSD is too strong!
12:30 almost forgot this was about overwatch.
"Griff, I need ma shotgun. What am I gonna do without... MA SHOTGUN.
SHOTGUN DAMMIT!!!"
LAWL.. "ItS nEvEr ThE dEvS fAuLt, DuUuRrR"
Overwatch 2 release: almost 2 months without bastion because of an ult bug that was still a bad ult.
That "how's rein" part I felt.
About Moira:
Individually speaking, her effectiveness exclusively depends on your playstyle. If your playstyle is passive and not constantly value-seeking, then yes she'll be bad in higher ranks cus you're not playing into her strengths, and a hero like Ana offers more baseline value from passive predictable comfortable playstyles most players are used to (not to say that's how you play Ana optimally either, you just get more value from suboptimal plays if you play Ana or Kiriko, than you do with Moira in higher ranks).
The reason Moira isn't picked in pro play, is EXCLUSIVELY because she doesn't offer any ability synergy with the team comps that are meta. She has been picked on occasion in full-team dive (more frequently seen in Asia teams for semi pro / contenders), but in general she herself doesn't contribute to a synergy-based win condition built around team work, and since pro scene is 90% teamwork and 10% individual hero potential, that's why she isn't picked. If you play an individualist playstyle in the pro scene you will get farmed no matter what hero you play. But ranked ladder is forced to be individualist no matter what, so here your hero pick doesn't detract from the team synergy value nearly as much as in pro play.
Compare apples to apples, guys. And learn the fundamentals of the game before forming broader opinions.
I'm not experienced enough at the game to know if you're right or wrong but I respect your thorough explanation.
@@Ahmad_Jihad Moira is great at letting you control the potential for value and influence you have in a match, from her quick access to offensive pressure and mobility letting her take chances and opportunities other supports simply can't afford to do. It's also easy to throw with her if you don't respect your limitations, but her kit is centered around seeking impactful pressure more than anything else. Picking Moira for heals on the other hand, especially in high ranks, is a trap that leaves most of her potential unused.
@@Real_MisterSir Yes!
Moira is literally half damage half heal, you have to get value out of her damage as well as her fast heals, knowing when to do which and having the game sense and strategic knowlege of the maps and hero abilities should enable you to apply pressure and get kills with your team as well as heals, but I think she is hard to play because she needs constant decisions and there is no known go-to strategy to play her as far as I know
The real Overwatch PVE was the friends we made along the way...
Flats you can’t take 20 seconds to answer a 5 second question, that’s cheating! Also, “yes, cap” was hilarious
I know I have 8 tanks of copium on me but I hope when/if Microsoft buys actiblizard they make the PvE correctly and give the dev team more devs
Hahahahahahaha I thought I was bad
Copium overdose
@@Jarczenko I know ok but Microsoft is way better keeping promises than actiblizard
Yep Microsoft will do great with Blizzard… oh wait look how they put halo on life support and have basically no AAA games outside of halo and gears
@@krypticgames8604 and Forza horizon
I remember I was told to count my blessings because we are still getting PvE missions. Guess we should be grateful we were spit in the face instead of punched
8:53 dunkey said overwatch 2 was overwatch 0.3 once it was released
i will never forgive blizzard for making that Bastion skin 1 coin...ever since i got it its been annoying me that i have a annoying number... 649 instead of 650
17:56 not everyone wants to que up in quick play and be hyper competitive. If you want to be hyper competitive, theres ranked but its a small minority and most people just want to pick their favorite character and play and have fun. Ranking up comes in second for most of the people.
YO THAT’S ME ‼️‼️
the other night i was playing with my homie on ps5 and we kept getting the same rotation of players game is in decline rn
Man in the first TikTok really said you'll be "out supported" and then called them "healers" smh
I actually don't remember the coin flip, but I've often avoided ranked like the plague rather consistently since 2016 lmao
Nah the Winston one took me out to next week 😂😂😂
Correct if I’m wrong, but that torb map isn’t even in the game yet and it was in the REVEAL trailer
Ig Gothenburg is just “Torb map” now.
17:45 former casual here who spent most of my time in OW playing Mystery Heroes... because it's fun. I tried competitive in some of the early seasons just for shits and giggles and wound up placing gold and silver, but after that I just stuck to casual, because there was always someone who assigned themselves as the team leader and gave everyone else shit if things didn't go well. Fuck that. Oh, and I said "former" because fuck ActiBlizz. Haven't bought or played any of their games for like, three years now.
I don't think I've thought about coin flip since 2016.
It’s just sad. I have played so much overwatch over the years. I can’t even imagine how someone like Flats feels with how much he’s invested into this cursed game.
I remember coin flip it was so bad, thank GOD its gone
It's sad how Lifeweaver is actually really good in like gold or lower ranks, but no one that uses him down there are good. Whenever I'm down there I play him to save our tank from literally dying alone in the enemy backline. It's also hood for getting Reinheart a free pin then pulling him right before he dies.
Blizzard saw tahm kench trolls and said, “what a great idea”.
The music drives me insane
i was thinking for a long time if you could sue them for false advertisement.
Is Overwatch back, I didn't hear you the first time 11:58
SMH my head. More and more I see what people say about moira having so little utility but I successfully play her at mid-high gm, have a solid 70% win rate in role queue.
Haha just had a game of t5 open queue yesterday where our moira had 42…? 48k heals? I don’t know, it was in the 40’s. Shit was wild.
At least Paladins has Skill cards u can upgrade. That’s more than what overwatch has LOL😂
I remember coin flip, it was so awful💀 having to defend on hybrid was so awful but having to attack on 2cp was also awful
I’m so glad i missed coin flip, I joined in December 2016 and heard the stories
I know they say that the campaign isn't canceled... but we are also not getting the campaign experience that we were promised...
Beyond not knowing if they will let you play it after the season is done.... we will be getting the same story over years instead of all at once... without the Hero progression...
And who is to say we are going to end up with the extensive missions they were planning? Or will we only get a streamlined version of it...
Oh no not the coin flip
been playing cybberpunk instead of overwatch. loving it.