Outstanding video. Whenever I learn something from your teachings, I check my girl and she fits all of your explanations. Sway back, and roach back dogs do not look healthy or even natural. I am not sure of the purpose for breeding for these characteristics, but they both look extremely detrimental to the dogs. Keep fighting my man.. I love it..
Real Boerboel talk!! This man knows what he’s talking about!! Unlike some of those backyard breeders in the states posting nonsense videos about Boerboels that don’t meet the breed standards!!!!
Baie Dankie Oom Johan, This is my favourite TH-cam channel, the more I learn the more faults I see in my young boy, even though growing up with Boerboels all around. My young boy definitely has too deep of a chest - something Ive realised long before just now. the one thing going for him is not being too heavy and his back is not too bad. but id describe his chest as up to 4 cm too deep and past his elbow, He going to be 2 years old so still growing but i don't think he weighs more than 70kg. His height is plus minus 69 - 71cm - hard to tell as he gets over excited whenever the tape measure comes out - I've got your Books and I highly recommend them - im someone who loves technical stuff.
Thanks for sharing, we need more people that Truely care for the working breeds. Everything thing is about the show today. Form follows function not the other way around. Great simple video
Great video. Very relevant today with the high incidence of pododermatitis in Boerboels in the US and UK. The condition can have many causes but with many modern Boerboels it is caused by excessive weight at the front of the dog. The overdevelopment of the chest in terms of width and depth has led to mechanical failure in terms of the front legs, wrists and paws. If we look at the origin of the breed, historicaly natural selection would take these dogs out of the gene pool, nowadays the result is that many owners are left with huge vet bills and a dog that is not for purpose.
Perfect info it's not rocket science it's just the money thing that's spoils breeds with new colours and bulk but your dog ain't fit to what it's designed to do run move happy dog thanks for the info and videos 100% true u are pal
To stack is a showring fallacy. Many owners believe that they can hide faults with a good stack but really experienced evaluators don't care a damn about a stack because it shows nothing except that the dog is disciplined. Angulation (poor.or good) can't be hidden in a stacked stance...... neither can a poor topline and if the tail is pushed up into a simulated flagging position, it enhanced sway backs. The shape and structure of the dog is best seen in motion and stacking, which might belong in a showring, has no place when a dog gets evaluated.
This defect would affect how the dog moves with function in the field. Will restrict economy of movement. The boerboel must be able to cover ground efficiently and smoothly. He needs stamina. Many modern dogs are breathless after two trotting circles in the showring.
I agree. The shortness of breath in most dogs (breeds) in not resolved by chest volume (depth and width) but rather by the length of the nasal passage. A constricted or too short nasal passage cannot allow enough air in nor 'moisturise' it adequately. I will soon do a video on the length of the nasal bone and the effects it has on fitness for purpose in the Boerboel breed
Interesting video. But this is important for most mastiff breeds. If you are a smart owner when you look at the puppies before you buy one you can clearly see the dog that has the heaviest bones I know that many people will get the most active or the biggest puppy but this doesn't mean that it will be best once fully grown.
Great video sir. Always enjoy your uploads... I am an upcoming breeder myself in South Africa. I have a beautiful female here, but she has stiff stifles and as such her rear is a bit higher than the front. Otherwise everything else is just right... If I mate her to a well conformed male, will he necessarily be able to correct the high rears on their puppies?
He won't necessarily correct all the puppies as each dog only contributes 50% to the genetics of the litter. How many puppies would be corrected is also impossible to tell but just the fact that you recognise a fault and consciously try to improve on what you have, is commendable 😁
Ha ha... I hardly breed anymore. You can have a look at some of my dogs (although I haven't posted pictures for a very long time) on Linjo Boerboels on Facebook.
If a dog is structured incorrectly (body too long or loin incorrectly proportioned), you can't fix it. The dog will also carry it to its offspring if corrective breeding with a dog who doesn't have it, doesn't take place. If a dog has a sway back due to a weak spine, it should not (never) be bred..... and you can't fix it. If a dog has a sway back due to its chest being too deep or too wide, you can't fix it either. The system allowed this to sneak in over time and the system must fix this over time. Breeders will only listen If they see active penalization.... and knowledge of the structural errors of their breeding preferences.
My boys 69kg 3 years old 24" to the withers and ever since a pup hes slouched when relaxed, he actually looks like he has mild sway back and a high rear . When on gaurd or moving briskly he straightens up to what id consider a perfcet topline. I have no intentions of breeding or showing and hes now a neutered family pet . Im interested to know though would you consider him non breeding stock or is it simply down to some training for both him and i to correct posture when it came to showing the dog in ring ?
What do you think attributes this being more prevalent in the breed? Do you think it is just poor breeding practices with breeders not being selective with their breeding stock? Or do you think other breeds have been introduced? It is getting so bad that some people are trying to say there are different types of boerboels. Where are these short, long, sway backed dogs coming from?
For many years, a swayback was severely penalised. Then a couple of commercial breeders who had their own perception of perfection, got elected onto the Board. More than one of them were breeding elongated, swaybacked dogs. Suddenly, elongated, swaybacked dogs started becoming champions and the trend was set. Some of the "culprits" are not even breeding anymore but they short-sighted self interest left a legacy which will take a long time to eradicate.
Outstanding video. Whenever I learn something from your teachings, I check my girl and she fits all of your explanations. Sway back, and roach back dogs do not look healthy or even natural. I am not sure of the purpose for breeding for these characteristics, but they both look extremely detrimental to the dogs. Keep fighting my man.. I love it..
Real Boerboel talk!! This man knows what he’s talking about!! Unlike some of those backyard breeders in the states posting nonsense videos about Boerboels that don’t meet the breed standards!!!!
Got the book and it's pretty neat. Tons of detailed information available at hand. Thanks Mr. Swart.
Thank you for detailed explanation>I heard Joe Church from NWA mention this particular video. Appreciate you good Sir
Baie Dankie Oom Johan, This is my favourite TH-cam channel, the more I learn the more faults I see in my young boy, even though growing up with Boerboels all around. My young boy definitely has too deep of a chest - something Ive realised long before just now. the one thing going for him is not being too heavy and his back is not too bad. but id describe his chest as up to 4 cm too deep and past his elbow, He going to be 2 years old so still growing but i don't think he weighs more than 70kg. His height is plus minus 69 - 71cm - hard to tell as he gets over excited whenever the tape measure comes out - I've got your Books and I highly recommend them - im someone who loves technical stuff.
Thanks for sharing, we need more people that Truely care for the working breeds. Everything thing is about the show today. Form follows function not the other way around. Great simple video
Great video. Very relevant today with the high incidence of pododermatitis in Boerboels in the US and UK. The condition can have many causes but with many modern Boerboels it is caused by excessive weight at the front of the dog. The overdevelopment of the chest in terms of width and depth has led to mechanical failure in terms of the front legs, wrists and paws. If we look at the origin of the breed, historicaly natural selection would take these dogs out of the gene pool, nowadays the result is that many owners are left with huge vet bills and a dog that is not for purpose.
Amazing analysis
Thank you for all the knowledge that you share.
Perfect info it's not rocket science it's just the money thing that's spoils breeds with new colours and bulk but your dog ain't fit to what it's designed to do run move happy dog thanks for the info and videos 100% true u are pal
Interesting Congratulation my friend
The stack is to highlight or to hide characteristics??? Is this statement true or false? Let's indulge!
To stack is a showring fallacy. Many owners believe that they can hide faults with a good stack but really experienced evaluators don't care a damn about a stack because it shows nothing except that the dog is disciplined. Angulation (poor.or good) can't be hidden in a stacked stance...... neither can a poor topline and if the tail is pushed up into a simulated flagging position, it enhanced sway backs. The shape and structure of the dog is best seen in motion and stacking, which might belong in a showring, has no place when a dog gets evaluated.
Logical indeed.
This defect would affect how the dog moves with function in the field. Will restrict economy of movement. The boerboel must be able to cover ground efficiently and smoothly. He needs stamina. Many modern dogs are breathless after two trotting circles in the showring.
I agree. The shortness of breath in most dogs (breeds) in not resolved by chest volume (depth and width) but rather by the length of the nasal passage. A constricted or too short nasal passage cannot allow enough air in nor 'moisturise' it adequately.
I will soon do a video on the length of the nasal bone and the effects it has on fitness for purpose in the Boerboel breed
Interesting video. But this is important for most mastiff breeds. If you are a smart owner when you look at the puppies before you buy one you can clearly see the dog that has the heaviest bones I know that many people will get the most active or the biggest puppy but this doesn't mean that it will be best once fully grown.
Great video sir. Always enjoy your uploads... I am an upcoming breeder myself in South Africa. I have a beautiful female here, but she has stiff stifles and as such her rear is a bit higher than the front. Otherwise everything else is just right... If I mate her to a well conformed male, will he necessarily be able to correct the high rears on their puppies?
He won't necessarily correct all the puppies as each dog only contributes 50% to the genetics of the litter. How many puppies would be corrected is also impossible to tell but just the fact that you recognise a fault and consciously try to improve on what you have, is commendable 😁
We would like to see your dogs
Ha ha... I hardly breed anymore. You can have a look at some of my dogs (although I haven't posted pictures for a very long time) on Linjo Boerboels on Facebook.
okay thanks for the input but how can one fix it?
If a dog is structured incorrectly (body too long or loin incorrectly proportioned), you can't fix it. The dog will also carry it to its offspring if corrective breeding with a dog who doesn't have it, doesn't take place.
If a dog has a sway back due to a weak spine, it should not (never) be bred..... and you can't fix it.
If a dog has a sway back due to its chest being too deep or too wide, you can't fix it either.
The system allowed this to sneak in over time and the system must fix this over time. Breeders will only listen If they see active penalization.... and knowledge of the structural errors of their breeding preferences.
My boys 69kg 3 years old 24" to the withers and ever since a pup hes slouched when relaxed, he actually looks like he has mild sway back and a high rear . When on gaurd or moving briskly he straightens up to what id consider a perfcet topline. I have no intentions of breeding or showing and hes now a neutered family pet . Im interested to know though would you consider him non breeding stock or is it simply down to some training for both him and i to correct posture when it came to showing the dog in ring ?
Hi Jamie, I really can't tell without seling a "relaxed" picture of him. Please send it to boerboelbook@gmail.com
@boerboelacademy thank you very much I've forwarded some pictures and information on to yourself
What do you think attributes this being more prevalent in the breed? Do you think it is just poor breeding practices with breeders not being selective with their breeding stock? Or do you think other breeds have been introduced?
It is getting so bad that some people are trying to say there are different types of boerboels. Where are these short, long, sway backed dogs coming from?
poor breeding!
For many years, a swayback was severely penalised. Then a couple of commercial breeders who had their own perception of perfection, got elected onto the Board. More than one of them were breeding elongated, swaybacked dogs. Suddenly, elongated, swaybacked dogs started becoming champions and the trend was set. Some of the "culprits" are not even breeding anymore but they short-sighted self interest left a legacy which will take a long time to eradicate.
Both.... introduction of other breeds in some instances and poorly regulated breeding in other instances
Show us some of your dogs
@@tshwarelomtimkulu2668 I do still own a few Boerboels but they are mostly old, retired dogs. I haven't yet decided if I will breed Boerboels again.