The hasne shipyard offers a hardtop. Without the solar panels or the ability to carry the dinghy it is a 15 000€ option for a 46 foot boat. Given the current state of the charter market, there's no way in hell you're ever going to get your money back from such an investment. (I'm talking about the charter market because Bavaria boats are built from ground up as the ideal charter boats)
Beautiful boat a little bit surprised no one wearing lifejackets up on deck very bright below I like that and the grab rails. Good report the background noise makes it more realistic Toby.
Thx. For the video. Love the utilities cabin option, hopefully other brands follow soon. How does she sail? I’ve found the c line 38 sailed way smoother and lichter then the comparable cruiser.
Is it useful to analyize the sailing manners of a *five cabin* 45-footer or are these blunt condominiums aimed as well at the resting Caribbean anchorage lifestyle as well? Honest question...as well.
I wouldn't go back full keel boat with long bowspirits. You are looking at the wrong boat, you should look at Hallberg Rassy, Najad or Amel. The hippie days of crossing the ocean in a small yacht is long gone, I do not know of anyone who crosses the ocean everyday. I'll take this or a smaller boat I can enjoy instead of the old musty, cramped, dark, heavily build Colin Archers made 50 years ago.
Ok. So sailing means sloshy noises and big cracks, or door slamming, and rope-winding a lot. Wobbly floors. Pringles chilled, but not shaken. I played it 2X speed. The music was excellent.
Love the videos and this looks a fabulous yacht . Particularly like the walk in locker containing the life jackets you should have been wearing especially those on the foredeck. Having had acrew member overboard in similar conditions if he hadn't had alife jacket on he would have been dead in the 40 minutes it took to get him back onboard ! It doesn't matter how good you think you are at MOB recovery the reality is very different . Sorry I'll get off my soapbox now
No casualty not unconscious and admittedly it was slightly tougher conditions but not much. I was on a Jeaneau Sun 36 skippered by a Yatchmaster Instructor who has run a sea school for over 20 years. In all that time this was his first real MOB. Under full sail with Spinnaker , we got back to casualty in two minutes. The D ring on life jacket failed when attached the Spinnaker halyard so whilst he was buoyant in the water effectively it was the same as having no life jacket on. Having practiced MOB numerous times what we had never experienced was trying to actually lift a 100 kg person 1.5 metres out of the water. After two attempts the casualty was exhausted and could not easily help in his recovery. The boat was pitching in the waves and whenever he got near the boat he was in real danger of being hit by the boat, trying over the stern was particularly dangerous and we had to have the engine in neutral because of the propeller. We had a crew of 6 all experienced racers and it was very difficult to get him onboard. We all learned a lesson that day , first don’t fall overboard but more importantly that actually getting a person back on board was extremely difficult, and much harder than any of us realised. If he had been unconscious he would have been dead. I don't know where in the world you are but in the UK we have the RNLI rescue service whose motto about lifejackets is ' useless unless worn '. The incident totally changed my view of MOB recovery. The reality was totally different to the thousand's of practices carried out over the years.
@@malcolmayres5186 In all fairness it sounds like being fit is as important as wearing a life jacket. Not only did that 100 kg carcass endanger his life, but the rest of the crew as well. We practiced climbing aboard the boat without assistance . In case a person is unable to do so there are a number of ways to hoist them out of the water that do not involve relying on their harness. For instance simply pass the halyard under the armpits and clip or tie it back onto itself. you get a self tightening sling. It might not be the most comfortable way but it will securely lift even a fully unresponsive whale out of the water. You can also go fancy and put a spare block on the boom, swing it out and lift someone out of the water away from the boat, before swinging them back in to lower onto the deck.
You have clearly not had it happen for real as you would know that what you are saying is simply not true. We have practiced MOB as you have described many times and, as you say , have always got them back on board safely. When it happened for real and unexpectedly the reality was very different. You are naive if you think it is as easy as you say especially in rough conditions. Your methods are also useless if the casualty is unconscious. We will clearly not agree on this matter. I hope that it never happens to you or your crew.
@@malcolmayres5186 I have had an actual MOB event as a skipper. The person climbed on board on their own as we deployed a ladder. If MOB is unconscious someone obviously gets in the water to secure them.
That small utility room/head space would make a good wet locker especially if it had a wet tray floor as standard. Ive seen a couple of older Bavaria's have boom neck failures and need rescuing at sea... where it joins the mast . It might be worth looking at that area for robustness and attachment Toby. Just to put that one to bed so to speak. 🤔
Not being a smartass I genuinely want to know I’m from Arizona, can a boat like this cross the Atlantic Ocean? I know In theory a 20 ft boat can do it but what I’m asking is in rough winds would this boat make the cross? Another question out of curiosity is how do you hear about people crossing the Atlantic on such small boats anything under 30ft seems crazy to me. It get strormy enough out there to rock big ships and pound them, so how do these small ship not get obliterated?
Always a pleasure, enjoying Toby sharing the particulars of a yacht.
Thank's Jim! T
@@yachtingworld As well.
I wish sail boat manufacturers such as Bavaria would offer hard top bimini options for mounting solar panels and dinghies.
and i was looking for foldable biminis cause i like the uncluttered look better
The hasne shipyard offers a hardtop. Without the solar panels or the ability to carry the dinghy it is a 15 000€ option for a 46 foot boat. Given the current state of the charter market, there's no way in hell you're ever going to get your money back from such an investment.
(I'm talking about the charter market because Bavaria boats are built from ground up as the ideal charter boats)
The boat of the year...deserves...amazing how quiet it is when sailing below deck. Well done Bavaria.
Quadratisch, praktisch, gut!
This is a terrific yacht😍Perfect as a family cruiser or a charter yacht
Beautiful boat a little bit surprised no one wearing lifejackets up on deck very bright below I like that and the grab rails. Good report the background noise makes it more realistic Toby.
Maybe should have bike helmets, taken 6th COVID jab and worn their seats just to keep them safe as well??? Be safe or strong! You can’t have both.
It's not uncommon to wear them under foulies so any auto trigger doesn't get set off erroneously.
@@bradleyshaw4199you can’t be safe and strong? BS
Could we talk about the elephant in the room?
6:39 SOMEONE PUT PRINGLES IN THE FRIDGE!!!
🤯
Whoah! I didn't notice that - I'll have to pick that matter up with the Bavaria reps. Weird. T
Precioso elegante y bien configurado ❤❤❤❤
Great presentation Toby
Glad you liked it!
"Real weather conditions". Should be expected, prepared for, and tolerated. That's life on the water.
# beautiful yacht. ⛵
Great presentation Toby! What about watermaker? Thanks.
Thank you. And yes, space aft of the engine between the aft cabins I believe. And the option to have up to 800lt of fresh water
Thx. For the video. Love the utilities cabin option, hopefully other brands follow soon. How does she sail? I’ve found the c line 38 sailed way smoother and lichter then the comparable cruiser.
It sailed really well, one of the biggest pros of the boat. Our full report is in the March '24 issue 😉
Is it useful to analyize the sailing manners of a *five cabin* 45-footer or are these blunt condominiums aimed as well at the resting Caribbean anchorage lifestyle as well? Honest question...as well.
I wouldn't go back full keel boat with long bowspirits.
You are looking at the wrong boat, you should look at Hallberg Rassy, Najad or Amel.
The hippie days of crossing the ocean in a small yacht is long gone, I do not know of anyone who crosses the ocean everyday.
I'll take this or a smaller boat I can enjoy instead of the old musty, cramped, dark, heavily build Colin Archers made 50 years ago.
Ok. So sailing means sloshy noises and big cracks, or door slamming, and rope-winding a lot. Wobbly floors. Pringles chilled, but not shaken. I played it 2X speed. The music was excellent.
whats a realistic sail away price though?
Around €440k ex VAT. That's the base boat plus the Ocean Package at €124,300.
@@yachtingworld Brilliant - cheers for replying
@@delphipascal Last spring I was quoted a sail away price of roughly €390k from a dealer
Love the videos and this looks a fabulous yacht . Particularly like the walk in locker containing the life jackets you should have been wearing especially those on the foredeck. Having had acrew member overboard in similar conditions if he hadn't had alife jacket on he would have been dead in the 40 minutes it took to get him back onboard ! It doesn't matter how good you think you are at MOB recovery the reality is very different . Sorry I'll get off my soapbox now
Was your crewman unconscious when you picked them up? And why did it take 40 minutes to recover them in similar conditions?
No casualty not unconscious and admittedly it was slightly tougher conditions but not much. I was on a Jeaneau Sun 36 skippered by a Yatchmaster Instructor who has run a sea school for over 20 years. In all that time this was his first real MOB. Under full sail with Spinnaker , we got back to casualty in two minutes. The D ring on life jacket failed when attached the Spinnaker halyard so whilst he was buoyant in the water effectively it was the same as having no life jacket on. Having practiced MOB numerous times what we had never experienced was trying to actually lift a 100 kg person 1.5 metres out of the water. After two attempts the casualty was exhausted and could not easily help in his recovery. The boat was pitching in the waves and whenever he got near the boat he was in real danger of being hit by the boat, trying over the stern was particularly dangerous and we had to have the engine in neutral because of the propeller. We had a crew of 6 all experienced racers and it was very difficult to get him onboard. We all learned a lesson that day , first don’t fall overboard but more importantly that actually getting a person back on board was extremely difficult, and much harder than any of us realised. If he had been unconscious he would have been dead. I don't know where in the world you are but in the UK we have the RNLI rescue service whose motto about lifejackets is ' useless unless worn '. The incident totally changed my view of MOB recovery. The reality was totally different to the thousand's of practices carried out over the years.
@@malcolmayres5186 In all fairness it sounds like being fit is as important as wearing a life jacket. Not only did that 100 kg carcass endanger his life, but the rest of the crew as well. We practiced climbing aboard the boat without assistance . In case a person is unable to do so there are a number of ways to hoist them out of the water that do not involve relying on their harness. For instance simply pass the halyard under the armpits and clip or tie it back onto itself. you get a self tightening sling. It might not be the most comfortable way but it will securely lift even a fully unresponsive whale out of the water. You can also go fancy and put a spare block on the boom, swing it out and lift someone out of the water away from the boat, before swinging them back in to lower onto the deck.
You have clearly not had it happen for real as you would know that what you are saying is simply not true. We have practiced MOB as you have described many times and, as you say , have always got them back on board safely. When it happened for real and unexpectedly the reality was very different. You are naive if you think it is as easy as you say especially in rough conditions. Your methods are also useless if the casualty is unconscious. We will clearly not agree on this matter. I hope that it never happens to you or your crew.
@@malcolmayres5186 I have had an actual MOB event as a skipper. The person climbed on board on their own as we deployed a ladder. If MOB is unconscious someone obviously gets in the water to secure them.
So inviting
That small utility room/head space would make a good wet locker especially if it had a wet tray floor as standard.
Ive seen a couple of older Bavaria's have boom neck failures and need rescuing at sea...
where it joins the mast . It might be worth looking at that area for robustness and attachment Toby. Just to put that one to bed so to speak. 🤔
I would not like to use that galley on passage in any kind of sea. OK, I'm old school, apart from that I like it.
Not being a smartass I genuinely want to know I’m from Arizona, can a boat like this cross the Atlantic Ocean? I know In theory a 20 ft boat can do it but what I’m asking is in rough winds would this boat make the cross? Another question out of curiosity is how do you hear about people crossing the Atlantic on such small boats anything under 30ft seems crazy to me. It get strormy enough out there to rock big ships and pound them, so how do these small ship not get obliterated?
Ocean crossings are all about hull shape and determination
I would have no interest doing a long crossing on a flat bottom boat like this
look at it hobby horsing in very little wave . . .
Work to be done hoisting a code zero .. so you nip below decks. Lazy bugger 😊🇦🇺
Or smart?!😉
@@yachtingworld Yeah, or smart ... especially in the rain ⛵😊
You have a hard life, don’t you Toby? 😂
A
Bavaria? Not a chance.