Sorceries might be better than Incantations. But I just find Incantations so much more fun to use. Ripping a boulder out of the ground with your hand to throw it into the face of an enemy just never gets old.
@Halcion Joy If I recall, sorceries can do Magic, Physical, and/or Frost, whereas Incants can do Holy, Physical, or fire (can't remember if fire resistance impacts black flame). Possible I'm forgetting though
@@JB-xl2jc Incants, if you include dragon breaths, can do holy, magic, physical, fire, lightning, rot, frost, madness, and death(death is weak as hell and pretty much useless.).
Doing a dragon incantation run only currently myself... Honestly easier than I initially thought it would be because of how many bosses succumb to the scarlet rot
Another benefit of avoiding the dragon incantations is that they are very strong, and they can make some of the other incantations feel relatively underwhelming.
I tried this sort of run before. Catch Flame is pretty much the only thing you can use for bosses that dodge projectiles. It still gets pretty powerful for everything else. I stopped when it didn't feel very challenging anymore.
This is the carian slicer of incantation builds, I take it? Yeah, casting is just like that all around. One low fp workhorse option that shreds mobs and makes you feel like anything else is wasting FP. At least magic has the night spells for bosses, but not everyone knows how those spells break the rules for bosses and might still fall into the same rut sadly.
just because a boss can dodge ranged attacks doesn't mean you can't just bait out an attack and then hit it with a fire sling or something, i had beat rennalla with fire sling and melania with flame fall upon thee as examples.
@@Ghorda9 I know you can use other stuff, but stuff that the AI won't dodge is way more consistent and less risky. If you're tight on FP, those sorts of spells and incantations are your best friend.
@@halcionjoy7 you can be consistent with the things i mentioned, again if you bait out an attack like with any melee build you can hit them consistently without them dodging and you can even use spells that are much more FP efficient to boot and land every single one.
@@Ghorda9 Sure, but going "if you want to play the ranged stuff, just go melee" isn't a good sales pitch. Enemies just spam-rolling all your shit, so you have to still play like you're using a greatsword, but without the armor and with potentially weakening armor/talismans to enhance your magic just doesn't feel good. Of course you're not supposed to easily kite and kill everything with no danger, but it feels like they didn't quite hit the balance switch correctly. The first boss in a "magic" run is the best example. Pumpkin head forces you to hit his head with magic, unless you freeaim and his head takes essentially no damage, so you can't even unlock the first magic merchant behind him, unless you opt for not using magic. And when I went a bit further south and my basic bitch magic missile was still the best option and then the Lionman kept dodging EVERYTHING, unless you literally use heavy weapon strats...Just not fun.
What he mentions at 7:45 is actually one of my biggest gripes with Elden Ring. In other souls games it's not that noticeable, since you have some free reign, but not EVERYTHING. But in ER it's so open, that any run begins with the same lengthy "gotta collect all the usual stuff" moments and that's just kinda taking away from the magic of a souls game a bit; when you spend half an hour just riding on a horse and pressing A a bunch, before you actually start playing the game. And since the amount of mandatory bosses is so incredibly low, nothing even stands in your way while you collect, so nothing changes things up. Usually I get that urge of just playing a run, switching up weapons and trying things a bit after the first few playthroughs, but with Elden Ring exactly this collectathon kinda stops me. I could totally just play without doing that, but just knowing that it's a much better start to just collect already makes it less fun to start normally.
Never fails to amuse when someone asks if something insanely strong is good and people go "No." Flame of Frenzy is literally one of the strongest things in the game full stop. It is absurdly powerful - towering above almost every incantation in the game including the dragon spells and most of the sorceries. Unbelievable damage, staggers everything so incredibly easily while being super cheap, one of the first incantations you get, and basically no stat requirement. Done multiple full runs with it as the primary source of damage. 🤣 Don't know how people do so poorly with things sometimes.
Whoever said in chat "mostly fire and lightning" is way off, they forgot about the madness spells which are very strong. Some fire is strong, lightning is okay but not that many of them are great, and lava spells need a buff across the board. Madness incantations are king far and away.
they've done one better than halting the aging process. in rats they have managed to reverse the aging process by a couple of months...not bad for a species that typically only lives for around a year.
for the fighting game fans out there, seeing Lobos doing this run is funny because Daigo Umehara is also playing this game(franchise even) for his first time. He is basically doing a Prophet run and cashed in hard on the fireball build lmfao. Very funny that he's committing to using only incantations on his first run while knowing nothing about the game or series.
@@LobosjrGaming fair point. I should have thought about it more. Holy damage is the least effective in my experience but I'm actually just a casual. I will shut it now. 😐😁
Wonder if the bosses in the dlc will be the same bs as end game in main game. They can make them hard, and still fun at the same time. But, what am I saying. This is the most perfect game to ever be created. Sorry everyone. 10/10.
@@revolversnake126 I mean when it becomes accessible, not necessarily how difficult it is. You can go to the first area right after Crystal Sage, and it has items for +4-+6 weapons.
Miyazaki nerfed the funny side of this game,why do you need to nerf something related to the pve? It´s utterly dumb,pvp is another story but the way they nerfed cool stuff in the pve is stupid.Look the chat acting like a bunch of cops justifying nerfed things in the game,mimic tear was cool,If you want to use it and have fun, do it, if you want another type of challenge then don't use it and that's it,but nerfing stuff is moronic.
Yeah I agree. Ultimately if From decides that they way they picture the game requires these things to be nerfed then we just have to groan about it. I'm glad we can still go back and experience the way things were with 1.0 though.
Sorceries might be better than Incantations. But I just find Incantations so much more fun to use. Ripping a boulder out of the ground with your hand to throw it into the face of an enemy just never gets old.
Ironically sorcery also digs out boulders to toss, just with their staff. Typical lazy Int'ers afraid to get their hands dirty!
Incantations have better variety in damage types and spectacle. Lots or sorceries are just blue and magic.
Sorceries are way better but they are boring af.
@Halcion Joy If I recall, sorceries can do Magic, Physical, and/or Frost, whereas Incants can do Holy, Physical, or fire (can't remember if fire resistance impacts black flame). Possible I'm forgetting though
@@JB-xl2jc Incants, if you include dragon breaths, can do holy, magic, physical, fire, lightning, rot, frost, madness, and death(death is weak as hell and pretty much useless.).
Yes! Lobos been waiting for this run from you since Elden Ring launched! So stoked brother
Doing a dragon incantation run only currently myself... Honestly easier than I initially thought it would be because of how many bosses succumb to the scarlet rot
Yeah the dragon spells to alot of damage in general try out smarag breath with some magic damage buff you will be impressed
Dragon incants are some of the strongest attacks in the game so yeah you'll do fine lol
its fine when it's fine, but when it's not....gargs.
@@shelbynorthern5766 Even then, Greyoll's Roar debuffs them, which is vurr nice.
I'm reminded of the Dark Souls 1 line about time being convoluted. When you mention _upcoming_ videos that have already come out, like Wo Long
Another benefit of avoiding the dragon incantations is that they are very strong, and they can make some of the other incantations feel relatively underwhelming.
Dragonmaw is fantastic, but hard to use on fast enemies. I remember dying multiple times to the revenant boss trying to use just dragon incantations.
You should probably specify Dragon Communion.
@Asdercol yeah I specifically mean like... rotten breath, dragonice, magma breath etc.
1.0 erdtree greatshield with that inner fire spell from the paintings was OP AF
I don't think I will ever get tired of this...
damn, I would have voted but this video came out after the awards were done. Next year lobos!
Black Flame straight up ran me through my incantation run. It's so crazy op
Looby uploads always make my days better. Thank you
I tried this sort of run before. Catch Flame is pretty much the only thing you can use for bosses that dodge projectiles. It still gets pretty powerful for everything else. I stopped when it didn't feel very challenging anymore.
This is the carian slicer of incantation builds, I take it? Yeah, casting is just like that all around. One low fp workhorse option that shreds mobs and makes you feel like anything else is wasting FP. At least magic has the night spells for bosses, but not everyone knows how those spells break the rules for bosses and might still fall into the same rut sadly.
just because a boss can dodge ranged attacks doesn't mean you can't just bait out an attack and then hit it with a fire sling or something, i had beat rennalla with fire sling and melania with flame fall upon thee as examples.
@@Ghorda9 I know you can use other stuff, but stuff that the AI won't dodge is way more consistent and less risky. If you're tight on FP, those sorts of spells and incantations are your best friend.
@@halcionjoy7 you can be consistent with the things i mentioned, again if you bait out an attack like with any melee build you can hit them consistently without them dodging and you can even use spells that are much more FP efficient to boot and land every single one.
@@Ghorda9 Sure, but going "if you want to play the ranged stuff, just go melee" isn't a good sales pitch.
Enemies just spam-rolling all your shit, so you have to still play like you're using a greatsword, but without the armor and with potentially weakening armor/talismans to enhance your magic just doesn't feel good.
Of course you're not supposed to easily kite and kill everything with no danger, but it feels like they didn't quite hit the balance switch correctly. The first boss in a "magic" run is the best example. Pumpkin head forces you to hit his head with magic, unless you freeaim and his head takes essentially no damage, so you can't even unlock the first magic merchant behind him, unless you opt for not using magic.
And when I went a bit further south and my basic bitch magic missile was still the best option and then the Lionman kept dodging EVERYTHING, unless you literally use heavy weapon strats...Just not fun.
What he mentions at 7:45 is actually one of my biggest gripes with Elden Ring.
In other souls games it's not that noticeable, since you have some free reign, but not EVERYTHING. But in ER it's so open, that any run begins with the same lengthy "gotta collect all the usual stuff" moments and that's just kinda taking away from the magic of a souls game a bit; when you spend half an hour just riding on a horse and pressing A a bunch, before you actually start playing the game.
And since the amount of mandatory bosses is so incredibly low, nothing even stands in your way while you collect, so nothing changes things up.
Usually I get that urge of just playing a run, switching up weapons and trying things a bit after the first few playthroughs, but with Elden Ring exactly this collectathon kinda stops me. I could totally just play without doing that, but just knowing that it's a much better start to just collect already makes it less fun to start normally.
Crucible knight cosplay run? Would love to see this over just a dragon incant run, personally
Godrick is always such a hype fight!
Never fails to amuse when someone asks if something insanely strong is good and people go "No."
Flame of Frenzy is literally one of the strongest things in the game full stop. It is absurdly powerful - towering above almost every incantation in the game including the dragon spells and most of the sorceries. Unbelievable damage, staggers everything so incredibly easily while being super cheap, one of the first incantations you get, and basically no stat requirement. Done multiple full runs with it as the primary source of damage. 🤣 Don't know how people do so poorly with things sometimes.
I wonder if people were trolling Lobos to make his run harder.
The art direction/graphics of this game still blows me away when I'm not expecting it. The sky boxes and underground areas(siofra/nokron especially).
Incantations look so sick in this game.
Lobos is addicted to sandwiches
You were close with the release date actually just 3 months off
Omg just saw this run 🙌 so excited to watch it all 😍
Is Mayonnaise an incantation? 😂
Whoever said in chat "mostly fire and lightning" is way off, they forgot about the madness spells which are very strong. Some fire is strong, lightning is okay but not that many of them are great, and lava spells need a buff across the board. Madness incantations are king far and away.
Missed the mark not naming your character FAITH
they've done one better than halting the aging process. in rats they have managed to reverse the aging process by a couple of months...not bad for a species that typically only lives for around a year.
for the fighting game fans out there, seeing Lobos doing this run is funny because Daigo Umehara is also playing this game(franchise even) for his first time. He is basically doing a Prophet run and cashed in hard on the fireball build lmfao. Very funny that he's committing to using only incantations on his first run while knowing nothing about the game or series.
1:16:00 a note to myself
i enjoy your videos
DLC hype ❤
1:21:55 ... I laughed so hard...
LOBOS AND I HAVE THE SAME BIRTHDAY WHAT
Where is dragon incantations :(
2:56:00 Vyke cheese
Where to vote, no one talking about 😢
Fuck yea incantations
What’s the link for the best dark souls streamer vote?
2:26:52 holy shit never saw that area before XD
When is fires deadly sin only run lobos???
3:22:01 Millicent wins by doing absolutely nothing
FINALLY!!
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Nothing is garbage in this game if you use it right.
if I say garbage, it's generally relative garbage-ness x) as in, something's way worse than other options
@@LobosjrGaming fair point. I should have thought about it more. Holy damage is the least effective in my experience but I'm actually just a casual. I will shut it now. 😐😁
Wonder if the bosses in the dlc will be the same bs as end game in main game. They can make them hard, and still fun at the same time. But, what am I saying. This is the most perfect game to ever be created. Sorry everyone. 10/10.
I'm hoping for more bosses like Radahn. They at least tried something different with him.
Most Dark Souls DLC has been endgame difficulty, I think DS3 was the only one to buck that trend since Ariandel is supposed to be like a midgame DLC.
@@FakeHeroFang how the fuck is friede not a endgame boss
@@revolversnake126 I mean when it becomes accessible, not necessarily how difficult it is. You can go to the first area right after Crystal Sage, and it has items for +4-+6 weapons.
Miyazaki nerfed the funny side of this game,why do you need to nerf something related to the pve? It´s utterly dumb,pvp is another story but the way they nerfed cool stuff in the pve is stupid.Look the chat acting like a bunch of cops justifying nerfed things in the game,mimic tear was cool,If you want to use it and have fun, do it, if you want another type of challenge then don't use it and that's it,but nerfing stuff is moronic.
Yeah I agree. Ultimately if From decides that they way they picture the game requires these things to be nerfed then we just have to groan about it. I'm glad we can still go back and experience the way things were with 1.0 though.