Abe no Nakamaro - A Japanese in Cosmopolitan Tang Dynasty China
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ก.ค. 2024
- Abe no Nakamaro was a Japanese envoy who experienced Tang dynasty China at the best of time, the height of its golden age, and the worst of time, An Lushan’s Rebellion. This is how he would have experienced the diverse and cosmopolitan Tang dynasty.
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0:00 Introduction
0:45 Japan's Mission to Korea & China
2:36 Abe no Nakamaro & Kibi no Makibi
3:41 Foreign Traders
5:11 Religious Freemarket
6:13 Imperial Examination
8:44 Yang Guifei & Beauty Standard
9:46 Army and Rebellion
11:16 Abe Tried to go home
13:17 Legacy and Legends
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Li Bai: My poor friend Abe... I will write a poem about him to honor him after his death in that shipwreck.
Abe: STOP TELLING EVERYONE I'M DEAD!
Li: I can still hear his voice sometimes...
Excellent 😂😂😂
During my 8 years' schooling in England and whenever I got homesick, I recited Abe's poem '天の原 ふりさけ見れば春日なる 三笠の山にいでし月かも' Internet didn't exist in those days and international calls were very expensive.
"Sometimes people put up walls, not to keep others out, but to see who cares enough to break them down"
- Banana Yoshimoto
Banana???
he's name is Banana?
The Longest Day in Chang’an tv series did the Tang culture, clothing and capital city near perfect. Truly love that series 👍🏽
Thanks for this recommendation. I've been on a long journey trying to trace remnants of my clans history.
@@hannminlee1753 yeah your welcome
It look like Japanese aesthetic
@@jonaspete actually no Japan emulated Tang era culture at the time.
@@Muramasa1794 Tang revival closely patterned on Japan is been out of control and under FIRE by Chinese CITIZENS and Scholars in recent years, imagine if Italy attempted to rebuild its former Renaissance glory by blindly copying Renaissance Architecture from France, Spain or England, pretty illogical, uh ? China has now restored its self-love and confidence, no more need for poor imitations of Japan
I think one of the great “what ifs” in history is if there was no An Lushan Rebellion.
The Tang empire would probably fight a series of campaigns to regain Central Asia from the Caliphate. The Byzantines wanted an alliance against them. So Tang may send an embassy to Constantinople through the Khazar Khaganate. A conflict with the Abbasid during the Islamic Golden Age would accelerate the exchange of knowledge and China’s perception of the world. Central Asia would be one fascinatingly complex place in this alternate world.
I don’t know though, Song is a pretty awesome dynasty too, it’s the pinnacle of art in China, even it is just fleeing south from the Mongols like throughout its whole period. If It is always Tang, we will probably have no night life (cause Tang had night curfew), no beautiful festivals, no gorgeous paintings made by emperors themselves… but again it might be stronger and might actually fight off the Mongols
The situation between the Japanese and Korean relation towards China during the Tang was similar to the relation between the Germanic and Keltic people learning from the Roman Empire. In the end the Germanic and Keltic people were heavily influenced by the Roman civilisation and blended into a particular melting culture, in which the formerly barbarian tribes enjoyed the benefits of roman civilisation.
Yes, thank you for planning to do a video about An Lushan Rebellion! I always wanted to know why he decided to become one of the biggest jerks in the world's history while Emperor Xuanzong was being nothing but kind to him! And blaming Yang Guifei for his mess?! That's simply just those stupid male officials are being biased toward women and trying to create some sort of illusion to trick themselves that they have control of the situation by putting blame on a lady who most likely may have nothing to do with this whole mess created two idiots at all! Also, I like the whole Yang Guifei escaped to Japan and live there for the rest of her life.
P.S: Abe no Nakamaro deserved to have his own movie that ended with him returned to Japan with Yang Guifei after they faked their deaths in Chang'an.
Amazing content! I love that you cover interesting but rarely ever talked about in Western media regarding East Asian history!
A common channel would just gloss this over and just say Japan learned from China, then proceeded onto explaining the politics and economy. It's all so boring and dull
Thanks to another awesome video. To me, chang an of Tang is most fantastic city ever in the world.
But I think you missed Balhae kingdom in the map. It was another big country near the late Tang dynasty and unified silla.
one point is certain, that is, from the pre -Qin dynasty, there have been 4 times large -scale immigrants from Chinese Han people to enter the Japanese islands and Korean Peninsula, which have a profound impact on the historical trends of China and Japan and ( Korean Peninsula ).
Focus on reference materials :
Yayoi period 彌生時代
Yamato period 大和时代
Asuka Period in Japanese history (538-710 AD) 日本飛鳥時代
Nara period (710-794) in early Japanese history ) 日本奈良時代
The Chinese carefully taught the primitives of Japan (and korea) at the time to teach the knowledge of rice, cutting wells, manufacturing agricultural tools, spreading medicine, textiles and other knowledge. They pushed Japan from the brutal primitive society to a slave society.
Chinese Han people's four large -scale immigrants enter the Japanese islands record :
1. Qin and Han Dynasty
Qin Shihuang (秦始皇 259-210 BC) swept the six regions. In order to escape the war, the Chinese people fled to Japan in two ways: Some Chinese people crossed the sea from the Northeast to the Korean Peninsula to Japan. Japan.
2. During the Wei, Jin, Northern and Southern Dynasties (420 -589 BC)
During the period of "Upheaval of the Five Barbarians 五胡亂華", in order to avoid the war, the Chinese people began a wave of migration to a large -scale migration around.
Most of the fleeing Chinese finally went to Japan, forming the climax of immigration to Japan. The representative is Liu Azhi (劉阿知), the descendant of Emperor Han Xian(漢獻帝).
3. The Sui and Tang Dynasties (581-907 BC)
Japan sent a large -scale Tang ambassador to China to visit China, while China sent a large number of people to spread advanced technology and culture to Japan. Most of these people are monks or cultural scholars. They are left as required by the Japanese because of the difficult sailing and welcomed by Japan. They often stay and "domestication" into the Japanese. The representative is the monk Jianzhen(監真).
4. The Song (960-1279)and Ming dynasties(1368-1644)
In the Yuan Dynasty, the Han people in the southern Song Dynasty broke their families. In order to avoid the war and kill, they moved to Japan one after another. The representative of this period was scholar of the Southern Song Dynasty - Lanxi Daolong(蘭溪道隆).
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In ancient China. Due to the escape or expansion of territorial reasons. There were many records of the Han people moved to the Korean Peninsula and the Japanese islands (including Okinawa). Establishing small countries and regimes on these islands (representing Chinese senior officials rather than emperor).
In addition to the later period of Japan (because of the ocean). The Han regime on the Korean Peninsula has always been the ancient Chinese territory and the scope of direct jurisdiction (but sometimes it is similar to the different phenomenon of political opinions from the central government. It is similar to the situation in Taiwan and Hong Kong today. When the relationship between Taiwan and Hong Kong and the central government is bad. Sometimes they think they are independent countries or claim to be non -Chinese).
The history of the establishment of a regime on the Korean Peninsula (Goguryeo, Baiji, Silla, Goryeo , Joseon). It is not the history of the Korean people. Instead, it is the history of the local regime of the Han people in northern China.These royal family and nobles are Chinese and descendants who move to the peninsula. They are wearing Han nationality clothing and using Chinese characters. They also claim to be the Han family. They are like Hong Kong and Macau and Taiwan. The Han people basically speak two Chinese languages (Chinese dialects+Chinese official language), one of the Han dialects that are lost.
* There are more than 100 dialects in Chinese Han nationality.
Only some civilians and slaves are indigenous people from the south of the peninsula (Koreans). This is very certain.
(A large number of ancient Chinese tombs were unearthed on the 4/5 Korean Peninsula today. Han murals (depicting the lives of the Han people in the north), the fairy and god beast of the Han nationality.Han religion. Chinese character stone monument. Han Dynasty coins. ...........
The southernmost part of the peninsula is unearthed in the original and backward Korean national life tools.
It can be seen that the extremes of two different ethnic groups( Chinese VS Korean ) and different civilizations exist at the same time in the same period of the peninsula history.
So tang dynasty liked them THICC
Good one 👍😂
@@kevinton4373 thanks mate
Your welcome 👍👌😁
Paradise!
It'll be great if you could do a video about the Church of the East in China. Maybe as a tie in for the Tang or Yuan dynasties.
thank you for sharing these great works.
I love this channel, and the content you are producing. 💯
Another fascinating history, well done!
This channel is underrated!
Tang Dynasty China had lots of foreigners, refugees, visitors, expats, expatriots, and field trippers
Opium poppy is called 양귀비꽃 in korea, which means Yang Guifei flower. Her portrait is very beautiful, even in the modern people's perception.
Yeah, I've heard of her being thick, but never obese.
@@-haclong2366 so the Tang's beauty standard was actually being 乇乂丅尺卂 丅卄工匚匚 instead of being fat???
Thank you! Very informative!!
Great shoutout to Lin. He's a favorite, too. As for you guys, excellent historical content and thanks for giving non speakers a taste of the language, Liked and shared.
Good as always.
This was one I wasn't expecting, but it was a pleasant surprise all the same. Awesome work detailing this episode of History here, I read a fantasy book based on this tale some years ago that was great, so it was good to hear about the Historical origins. Also best of luck to your Illustrator's channel there too, that also looks like a great History page. Nice work guys.
Your my favorite creator rn
Looking forward to the next one and the Three Kingdoms period. Stoked as hell!!!!
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I love this channel because he reviews Asian history all in balance.
Excellent series on the Tang, Bro. I’ve now watched them all. Gonna watch the Korean series and I’ll have seen most/close to all of your channel. Keep it up 👍
GOOD ONE!
Didn't know Li Bai had an awesome foreigner friend back then. Nice video!
"Oh, dear friend, you have been sorely missed. Here's a memorial poem for you..."
*Abe no Nakamaro returns to Changan*
"Oh, whoops... heh... yeah.... sorry about that... I guess it's kinda too late to call back that Japanese mission I entrusted with that poem to bring back to your homeland."
Fun fact: Li Bai's famous memorial poem was one of the reasons why the Kibi scroll creator thought Abe was already dead when Kibi had that adventure of his.
Awesome, 'bro'!
Outstanding video CJ. I didn't expect to see the Sogdians and An Lushan this soon in the video. Would love to see you cover more topics such as many nations and tribes around China during the Tang dynasty and how the Fubing of Sui and Tang evolved directly from the Tuntian of Western and Eastern Han.
On the side note, will there be talk about the Battle of Suiyang for the next episode?
12:05 Everlasting Regret by Bai Ju-Yi is an amazing poem about this event
Cool History Bros, can you please make a video on Bao Qingtian. Thank you very much.
ヤバい「残念だったね〜」、これがウチを笑わせたよww。
OMG the "Zannen Datte Ne~" part had made me laugh lol.
Just subscribed! This was a very well-done video. If I may, could you do a video on Himiko sometime?
Pretty good idea. I will put it on my to do list.
Fun fact: all chinatown in USA and Canada are named after the Tong Dynasty descendents. In Chinese, chinatown stands for Tong's Descendents Place
It’s spelt Tang Dynasty
it stands for tang's people street
@@EricChien95 I know I didn't want to do direct translation
@@hanzocloud Tong is right. Look it up
The standard Mandarin/pinyin romanization is Tang, Tong might be from another system/dialect?
Can't wait , to see u will tell a story about" General of the yang family "
Yeah!😙 new content keep doing new video and take a break for how long you need , I be ready for your new video also you are the best😁👍 ps love the Channel it’s fun and educational,interesting.
Man! Tang Dynasty have a whack and thicc moments 😂🤣
Nice video, but majority of the Anxi protectorate’s supreme military governor were Han Chinese, with a few others being Xianbei, as far as I’m aware, there were no turk governors.
Too soon.
The Tang Dynasty was an open dynasty. There was a Vietnamese Khương Công Phụ who came first in the imperial examination and became prime minister of the Tang Dynasty.
Vietnam are part of tang back then and I don't think they consider him different ethnic
@@mimorisenpai8540 lmao yeah no, Vietnamese experienced much racism back then as the Chinese considered us "southern barbarians". So for a Vietnamese to be working in a Chinese imperial government at time, that was huge.
I think there must be fascinating video on historical links between East Asia (China, Japan, Korea) with India..... like in India the Chinese travellers like Hueng Tsang and Fa hien are very famous ❤️
absolutely the connections made in early silk road with the Kushan empires, then later with Tang envoys and then Mongol empire connected the regions in such interesting ways
This filled in some of the blanks and definitely answered some questions I had about Chinese history as well as the history of Japan, Korea and India. Four countries in one post, well done!.
i wonder how many times did nakamaro said "hoooooooooryyyyyyyyyy shit" while he was there
lol.
The Tang Dynasty is nice dynasty that modern Chinese people have always remembered. As a Chinese, I like the Tang Dynasty so much.
However, China's experience has also taught the Chinese people now that ：IF China collapses, the lives of the Chinese people will definitely become miserable.
And it's inevitable, repeatedly, if romance of the 3 kingdoms is anything to go by
Long united, must divide. Long divided, must unite
Chinese weren't always the victims! There were various ethnic groups inhabiting lands that are parts of China today but the Han have been the most dominant ethnic group in China -- many ethnic minorities were often displaced. Not to mention that Chinese invaded Vietnam and imposed their influence which is why Vietnamese culture is similar to Chinese culture today. The original Vietnamese culture should be more similar to Thai and Khmer cultures.
@@jackjackyphantom8854 ？！what are you talking about？
@@jackjackyphantom8854 Thai and Khmer culture also greatly influenced by China and India.
@@TheExtraterrestrial99 I'd say that Thai and Khmer were more influenced by Indian. The cultural similarities between Chinese and Thai/Khmer are quite limited.
Just by mentioned Khmer in the group made me feel pride😂 I shout yeah so hard my mom also what's going on!?
Also hope that u do a video of Zhou Daguan jurnal to Imperial capital of Angkor.
Is this ONE of basises for the book "under heaven" it was really good. But I'm pretty sure that the author smashed the story of the heavenly horses and the story of this beauty and this general together.
_ Just having money isn't enough, if you want to bribe in the highest level of the imperial exam because they need an extensive network to subvert all of the security measure. The entire network would fail, if just 1 undercover agent caught 1 member & he talk-> You need to be a son of a high ranking official or have connection to one
_ Fun fact: Arrogant examinees used to grafiti their name or a poem on walls of the inns or Buddhist temples they're staying at for the exam. Saying that *WHEN* they pass this writing will make the place more famous raising & it's prestige. Needless to say the number of candidate passing is very small. At least the more polite ones wrote on a piece of paper or cloth so th owner could just throw it away when they failed the exam
somewhere deep in my mind i was hoping the FGO version of Yang Guifei
I will talk about it in the future, because it's interesting. Lol!
I hope they don't make her as fat as Julius Caesar
Can you do a video on Kukai (founder of the Japanese Shingon school of Buddhism) pls?
Malay Trader in Zaytun (Olive) Canton / Guangzhou
mention Yohkihi and expressions will light up
"Yan Shou Huan Fei"...
I'll be using that one. 🤣
Actually CJ, if you want to include funny expressions in every video, go right ahead.
Can you make a video about philosopher Mozi?
thank you bro i want more korean history please
Don't worry, I have a few in the pipeline.
@@CoolHistoryBros okok i wil wait for it as a loyal subscriber :)
All I know in Mandarin is "I love you" but I'll have to look up Abe's poems to help learn Japanese, assuming he ever wrote any in Japanese of course
how about Cantonese? That would be so awesome.
yang gui fei was basically thicc af, is what they were saying..
I am interested in this history in Pacific Asian culture.
13:15 zannen dattane
What does it mean?
Can you tell story about ABE NO SEIMEI ?
He really didn't like boats
What is Jedushi equal to? Governor?
Jiedushi is a Military Governor - sort of like a Viceroy in British system.
pog
Hi cool history bros, I just came from the zhang liang strategist archetype video, I was wondering if Zhou tong(周同) the teacher of Yue Fei, Lin Chong and Lu Junyi would be considered as the first "old badass teacher" archetype, if not, who would be considered as the first?
P.S when you eventually do the yue fei video I think a good clickbait title would be "the Chinese yi sun-sin : yue fei"
8:08, 晁 pronounces as cháo, not cáo
Yang Guifei has been one of my favourite figures in Chinese history for over a decade.
I premised my SCA persona as her grandchild.
Her portrait is beautiful, even in today's beauty standards.
In korea, opium poppy is called 양귀비꽃(Yang gwi bi kkot, Yang Guifei flower).
Actually I am a Taoist. It’s quite rare to see ppl mention Taoism.
Can anyone recommend others channals about asian history? (middle eastern also count) and Sorry for my horrible english
Odd Compass is a good one if you haven’t checked it out!
@@Joseph-qd9ew thanks
He's portrayed in the Chinese fantasy movie "legend of the Demon cat"
And they literally hired Abe Hiroshi for the role. Lol!
@@CoolHistoryBros But the main Japanese role is the Monk which was portrayed by Shōta Sometani.
@@jackjackyphantom8854 That's right. And Abe Hiroshi guest starred as Abe no Nakamaro in the flashback sequence.
@@CoolHistoryBros Wow thanks for ur reply, sir. Btw are u an Singaporean?
@@jackjackyphantom8854 No, but I've stayed there for 5 years. Would love to visit again.
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Was the An-Shi Rebellion really a rebellion or was it an old fashioned civil war like so many in Chinese history? A civil war between Tang and Yan, maybe it should be called the War of Yan Independence instead??
Max Superbus It’s indeed almost the most powerful empire at that time.
Rebellion is one of the cause of civil war.
@1:53 CNFUCIANISM should be CONFUCIANISM* . Sad to see he prioritized indian buddhism rather than delect in China for its own sake!
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Again, thank you for this wonderful video! I'm very interested in history, so I've seen lots of history channels, but most of them talked about european history. You're the only history channel that talks mainly about East Asia, and as a Korean, your videos are very enjoyable. Not nationalistic, humorous, informative, and high quality. But I do have a doubt for this video. At 0:00, it's shown that manchuria, in the year 717 is occupied by Tang dynasty, but as I know, there was Balhae ruling in Manchuria during that time. The kingdom was founded in the year 698. Could you confirm if you made a mistake? Also, it would be great if you mention it in the comment section.
Hey, man. When you question other's statements, it should be you to provide evidence to support your own argument, instead of others. Also, they have discussed Balhae in their previous videos in detail.
@@YL-nx3yk But Y L, I have indeed provided an incontestable information that Balhae existed in the year 717. The kingdom was founded in 698 and fell apart in 926. So it would be wrong to mark Manchuria as Tang dynasty's territory in the year 717.
@@BaptisteLee Hi @@BaptisteLee, you get me wrong. I mean it would be much better for you to provide some documentary evidence to support your argument instead of claiming sth with only words. You know, no everyone knows Balhae, and no everyone has a strong historical background. For example, I found the information about Balhae in wiki, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balhae, where it says Balhae last from 698 to 926, but 'In 713, the Tang dynasty bestowed the ruler of Jin with the noble title "Prince of Commandery of Bohai (Balhae)" (渤海郡王). In 762, the Tang formally elevated Balhae to the status of a kingdom.'
@@BaptisteLee I guess one problem here is that people have different definitions for territory and especially in ancient time. A good example here is the empire of alexander the great. Once they won the war, conquest a new kingdom, the local ruling classes submit themselves to the rule of the empire, then they (conqueror) thought the territory belongs to them. However, mostly the local kingdom still exists there.
@@BaptisteLeeAnother example, let us assume one day, Korea invaded China and won the war. But Korea can not kill all Chinese ruling class in their government and directly govern the Chinese citizens, due to the language, culture, and many other reasons. Instead, Korea will just accept the surrender from the Chinese government, make them under the rule of Korea, garrison inside China, get annual money from the Chinese government, control the Chinese army to fight for Korea during wartime. Then, Korea can claim China is their territory, but China still exists at the same time.
Warriors Orochi 3
*no monetary taxes. Taxes were taken in flesh in form of their sons for warfare. That is a form of taxation bro
I think the former prime minister of Japan is a decedent from his line.
Descendant
And so was Abraham Lincoln apparently
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I guess the Tang loved their women thick.
我咋听出一种说日语的感觉 哈哈哈哈😂
It's human nature when times are tough humans will seek out knowledge and technologies to give them an edge over their competitors.
Thanks for not depicting Yang Guifei with a reverse goose egg head, those animations of "standard Chinese women" on this channel are hideous (despite generally being quite well illustrated).
14:00 Ah, that explains it, it is simply modern Mainland beauty standards. I actually rarely see reverse goose egg heads on women outside of modern "extreme beauty" things from the Mainland, even Hong Kong hasn't (thankfully) adopted this trend yet.
Tang Dynasty sure like thicc women, like sexy thicc, not fat lol
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An Lushan 😍😍😍
buddhism was neplese not indian 💀
nepal and india is diff country.
nepal is between india and china.
lord buddha was neplese.
buddhism and hindu are two diff thing.
Yea but the one who made popular are the Greeks. Without amazing statue budhism have no cool factor.
So I'm confused, is china a person or a belief system? Please be more clear in future videos
I think unless otherwise specified China typically refers to the geographic place/polity (ceramics aside). Is there any particular example you found confusing? I think I might be misunderstanding you.
Definitely a culture. The Mongol Yuan Dynasty and Manchu Qing Dynasty still kept China mostly China because they assimilated into the Chinese culture deeply. This is why Chinese today is used to call all of the 56 ethnic groups in China.
Fall of TANG and MING establish, All of royal family of TANG flee to Japan
Back when japanese technology was shit
Annoying accent .. can’t listen to it