I’d venture to say a lotta work went into this video presentation and I thank all those involved for putting it together. Born and raised in Northern California in 1949, Ive been in northern Puget Sound (Washington state) since 1981, yet my roots in Great Britain still tug at me even though I’ve never been there. Again I thank all those involved in this wonderful audio-visual presentation.
I am very impressed that the people in the UK really love railways. It is supported by volunteers and the government as well. I want to visit the heritage lines in the UK after COVID-19 calm down.
Fantastic doco, with the personal touch of fond memories of those who were involved in the Welsh narrow gauge restoration and others, who fought the good fight to keep important lines open.
A most excellent vocal narration for an equally most excellent documentary: top marks for balanced and appropriate intonations to communicate empathy regarding the dearth of what we all cherish to an nth degree, and for which we are all sadly responsible, at least in part (we all like our cars that afforded us individual freedom to go wherever we wouldst, buy whatever we cared, and back to our hove doorsteps whenever and however late the hour…. But railways had their costs to cover and we couldn’t afford the tickets to cover, as for collectively paying through taxes collected…Maybe where we handed over so much to countries that scourged our very name…
I live in North Wales and learning about the Ffestiniog Railway was very interesting. It is one thing that I would like to go and see the beauty of the Welsh mountains from the train.
I traveled from Chicago to Ishpeming, Michigan on the C&NW..apparently many investors were from the UK so I was told the trains traveled on the Brit side of the tracks..but it was the journey that impressed me.
Fort William to Mallaig is a wonderful journey..have done it several times but it always rains in Fort William..another scenic line was the old Callander to Oban line this was closed before the Beeching era due to a land slip..nothing much left Callander Station site is now just a car park..
+Russell Bloxsom Not strictly true. It closed in 1965 - well into the Beeching era! A date for closure of the line had been set, the rock fall just brought it forward by a few weeks.
Made many a trip on the old Glasgow Buchanan Street to Oban line on our way to catch a steamer out to the Western Isles for a summer holiday. I can well remember the additional locomotive which had to be coupled onto the front of the train at Callander to help haul it up the steep incline at Glen Ogle; it would be uncoupled at Crianlarich and then run back down to Callander to wait for the next northbound needing assistance with the gradient. Happy days !
I recall when I was a young kid traveling on the Chicago and Northwestern line, I would pretend to be driving a car along side of the train and having to dodge various impediments to travel....great fun :)
todays perseved railway are down to years of deadication and very hard back braking hard labour, and emense red tape to over come, the railway presivationist have made britian proud , with there hard work, because the Government did not want any of what there is today, so a very big thanks to the presavation movement
I recall in 1959 flying to Prestwick, then on a bus with children speaking a strange language, and then a train down to London. It had to be steam because I felt the stuff so I closed the window,:)
i loved the story of queen victoria, having personal family connections to scotland and england, few people realize that at one point in time the royals werent that stuck up like some people believe they are. Queen lizzy is actually a badass woman if you arent english and dont know her life story( as american i loved learning about her time in ww2 and afterwards)
When you exploit the laborers you get people who don't have anything to loose, and they were trying to gain something (anything) from their hard work....... either by stealing it or fighting for it. Not victims of circumstance, victims of greedy men who wanted to increase their own holdings by the sweat of others, and it is still happening today........
Dent is the highest standard gauge station in England NOT Britain. That title goes to Corrour (roughly 1340ft above sea level) north of Rannoch on the west highland line !!!! The film even shows the sign at Dent station stating England at an elevation of 1150ft .
David, you have the same problem we have in the US....five minutes of television broken up by ten minutes of commercials, especially during the time national networks are trying to bury us in total sewage they attempt to call news. I have all but given up watching television, preferring instead to watch streaming videos, rented DVD's and TH-cam stories. MUCH more entertaining and NO political BS!
Hi. Lovely video! In the story of the 'Deviation(sits)', there was mention of the fact that the land they needed to build on was not owned by the deviationists; was it bought, was it donated?
I know you probably have the answer in the 3 years since this comment. But yes. And is the only Narrow gauge engine in the Railway Series not to be based on a Talyllyn engine.
Wow I really want to go to Great Brittan now after seeing this ! Back in the seventies the only thing we saw on TV A lot was Corrination Street with its beautiful Woman ! Ena Sharplis Hilda Ogden Elsie Tanner etc , Also the constant view of Grey skies and ugly Terrace houses ! So no real enticement to venture to England ! But this has really changed my mind !
Terry Thomas Wonder if you have made it here. Many years ago I travelled the Scottish Highlands route from Perth to Inverness. When trains had carriages holding 6 people and a corridor. At one point the train would ascend at a snail's pace and we'd look down onto the tops of Scots pine trees. Once, during a wintery dawn, everyone went to the corridor and opened the windows for a clear vision of tall, snow covered pines, and long icicles hanging on the trees. They shone purest gold glowing in the sun. There were many tourists. I looked at those near me, clearly overwhelmed, silent, awestruck, with tears flowing from their eyes. Most memorable. If you do come, Terry...enjoy. Oh, do plenty research prior to any destination decisions.
That "Key" system to make sure 2 trains are not on the same track at the same time is still used today in India. It may seem archaic, but you can't improve on Perfection with common sense.
Electric token system , I have used to work a box that had a branch line that used it. It had it's drawbacks, though . It was possible to get on the branch line from another direction, so we found that all the tokens would ,in time end up the wrong end . The S&T had to come down with a old cardboard box and take them to the other end in a van !
It is unfortunate that Henry Ford - with his wonderful mass-production of his automobile - ruined the train industry in America. If you live in Little Rock, Arkansas and want to take a simple train trip to Memphis, Tennessee - just 138 miles away - it takes over (YES OVER) 24 hours !!. Your train must go to Chicago, Illinois first - then on to Memphis. WHY - Henry Ford and his wonderful automobile made train travel worthless to travelers. Some Wonderful things can actually harm many people.
Close down uneconomic lines and scrap steam locomotives with cutting torches. Send the debris for melting and recycling. This is the way forward. Private motor transport eclipses rail in rural areas.
I wouldn't say he was an ogre. He was, to me, a short-sighted, non forward thinking man, who had no thoughts of the future. He was backed up by a Tory Government, a bit like today, when they want to build the HS2 - a monstrosity that will run for the benefit of London & Birmingham, but at the cost of everyone, including those living in Wales & Scotland! Far better to spend the money on reinstating some of the lost lines, and reduce congestion nationwide!
Wyn Parkin I would have to do more research on the HS2. I am rather wary of anti-tory rhetoric. The other day I heard someone blame Thatcher for the destruction of the local auto industry. I have intimate knowledge of that so I keeled over with laughter. Research in econ and finance is pretty boring but it will prove what lengths people will go to advance a political cause by telling blatant lies.
I don't agree. Beeching was a great visionary who saved a lot of money and brought the railways into the modern age. We have far too many preserved steam and diesel locomotives clogging up the sidings of heritage railways. These are rusting away, creating health and saftey issues, problems of parts being sold on the black market, and pollution etc. This mess needs to be cleared up now. These rusting hulks need to be cut apart, broken up and the various metals melted down to make new and useful items. It's only a matter of time before a lot of these "preserved" locos will face the shears and the torch.
heelfan1234 Afraid you are in a minute minority! When I said he had no forward thinking, I was right. At the time when he destroyed Britains' Railways, the coalfields were in charge and like in the welsh valleys, most miners walked to work and the rest used a workers train. But, when the Tories decided to destroy the coalfields too, people then had to travel to find work, and not many miners had cars. If the railways had still been available then we wouldn't have the acres of tarmac, and the gridlocks, that we have now. As for preserved railways being health and safety problems, which should be scrapped, I am left wondering why you have been looking at these videos! They are our history and everyone loves these railways, Why else would they be able to survive even though Beeching did his worst by been an idiot!
Quite correct even. May not have been official but was first 100 mph. Never seen it running only at York and some years ago was on Lemon Quay, Truro where I had a business.
Regarding the Scottish section of this upload: Hey, Scottish-sounding narrator: 'Lock'? Try 'Loch'. To which demographic are you (and the producers of this embarrassment) projecting? This is a pish-poor attempt at redefining Scottish 'history' (via steam-locomotive-driven transport), replete with ersatz, tartan flummery. As well as reading John Prebble's 'The King's Jaunt', educate yourself with: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visit_of_King_George_IV_to_Scotland Bonus: www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v11/n01/david-craig/taking-the-hint Caveat: This is a long read, and necessitates a real sense of open-minded dedication (as well as a modicum of national pride). Rant over. Thank you for getting so far. Pelters welcome. Stay free. 👋
I’d venture to say a lotta work went into this video presentation and I thank all those involved for putting it together.
Born and raised in Northern California in 1949, Ive been in northern Puget Sound (Washington state) since 1981, yet my roots in Great Britain still tug at me even though I’ve never been there.
Again I thank all those involved in this wonderful audio-visual presentation.
Used to get off the Train at Lochearnhead, Perthshire,
The Last time I was up there was Autumn 1983.
Still have fond memories.
This is better than any rail programme that's on today's TV
I am very impressed that the people in the UK really love railways. It is supported by volunteers and the government as well. I want to visit the heritage lines in the UK after COVID-19 calm down.
Why the music? Train wheel ,piston cranks,exhausts sounds are meaningful effects alone surely, ?
Fantastic doco, with the personal touch of fond memories of those who were involved in the Welsh narrow gauge restoration and others, who fought the good fight to keep important lines open.
Congratulations, this video is amazing. I enjoyed every minute of it. It was 1st class from beginning to the end. Well done Sir.. 🙂👍
A most excellent vocal narration for an equally most excellent documentary: top marks for balanced and appropriate intonations to communicate empathy regarding the dearth of what we all cherish to an nth degree, and for which we are all sadly responsible, at least in part (we all like our cars that afforded us individual freedom to go wherever we wouldst, buy whatever we cared, and back to our hove doorsteps whenever and however late the hour…. But railways had their costs to cover and we couldn’t afford the tickets to cover, as for collectively paying through taxes collected…Maybe where we handed over so much to countries that scourged our very name…
I live in North Wales and learning about the Ffestiniog Railway was very interesting. It is one thing that I would like to go and see the beauty of the Welsh mountains from the train.
Amazing story. I love the deep passion of the deviationists volunteers. Thank you for uploading.
I traveled from Chicago to Ishpeming, Michigan on the C&NW..apparently many investors were from the UK so I was told the trains traveled on the Brit side of the tracks..but it was the journey that impressed me.
lovely i always feel emotional when i see a steam train theyre beautiful beasts , ive always had a love for trains .
Same
Fort William to Mallaig is a wonderful journey..have done it several times but it always rains in Fort William..another scenic line was the old Callander to Oban line this was closed before the Beeching era due to a land slip..nothing much left Callander Station site is now just a car park..
+Russell Bloxsom Not strictly true. It closed in 1965 - well into the Beeching era! A date for closure of the line had been set, the rock fall just brought it forward by a few weeks.
+Russell Bloxsom It was beautifully sunny on Fort William when we rode that line. No complaints!
Made many a trip on the old Glasgow Buchanan Street to Oban line on our way to catch a steamer out to the Western Isles for a summer holiday. I can well remember the additional locomotive which had to be coupled onto the front of the train at Callander to help haul it up the steep incline at Glen Ogle; it would be uncoupled at Crianlarich and then run back down to Callander to wait for the next northbound needing assistance with the gradient. Happy days !
Great documentary! Love to visit this place!
very interesting and informative picture and dedicated hard work is encapsulated here behind the railway working.
very nice view and thanks a lot for the video.
Another great video, 👍i
Loved this one.
BRILLIANT !!
A clever demonstration on how to make a really interesting subject bore people to tears
Excellent movie I used to live in England and traveled on some of these trains volunteers keep up the good work
Paul Watkins but this is Scotland and Wales, not England?
Like the video .Enjoy it very much.
Fascinating footage...well done.
WONDERFUL PROGRAM !
Thanks for sharing,shared.
I recall when I was a young kid traveling on the Chicago and Northwestern line, I would pretend to be driving a car along side of the train and having to dodge various impediments to travel....great fun :)
Silloth needs the line rebuilt!
todays perseved railway are down to years of deadication and very hard back braking hard labour, and emense red tape to over come, the railway presivationist have made britian proud , with there hard work, because the Government did not want any of what there is today, so a very big thanks to the presavation movement
anna jeannette Dixon your spelling is absolutely awful!
@@SG-xy6hf it,s not my spelling it's grammraley
anna jeannette Dixon doesn’t explain how the poor grammar carried over into your reply 😂
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I would not expect the Settle - Carlisle line to be part of this video, given the title.
I recall in 1959 flying to Prestwick, then on a bus with children speaking a strange language, and then a train down to London. It had to be steam because I felt the stuff so I closed the window,:)
You had the strange language granskare they had the language of living there
I would love to ride on Settle and Carlisle Railway, not to mention the narrow-gauge railway
Very enjoyable :)
I'm terrified of any kind of steam, or heated pressure vessel. Good Lord!...she might blow the lid off you know!
Back in the seventies the only thing we saw on TV
Well well if nothing more, the Brit's gave the world the railways. As Shakespeare once said, "This sceptered isle, this world, this England"
Not many lost railways in this. All about threatened railways that were saved.
all in all that was quite good
Lovely
Why doesn't American TV have something like this? They could have it between Help I'm 16 and pregnant and Death Row Rap Stars.
It's not reality crap. Plus, true history isn't pushing the NWO agenda. It's hard to find anything history that isn't twisted or thier propaganda.
Freddy Marcel-Marcum Because the Kardashians are not in it...
i loved the story of queen victoria, having personal family connections to scotland and england, few people realize that at one point in time the royals werent that stuck up like some people believe they are. Queen lizzy is actually a badass woman if you arent english and dont know her life story( as american i loved learning about her time in ww2 and afterwards)
PBS is all that's left brother. Well, TH-cam of course! But you have to know what to search for. I agree about the the mind dissolving reality crap.
So sad. My local line has been closed for years, despite its Royal Connections, and both tourism and commuter profits.
Closing unprofitable lines is one thing, selling the land and trackbed so the line could never be opened again is a crime.
Absolutely soul destroying really
He mentions the chapel at Chapel-le-Frith as being close to the Ribblehead Viaduct erroneously. It is actually St. Leonards Church in Chapel-le-Dale.
When you exploit the laborers you get people who don't have anything to loose, and they were trying to gain something (anything) from their hard work....... either by stealing it or fighting for it. Not victims of circumstance, victims of greedy men who wanted to increase their own holdings by the sweat of others, and it is still happening today........
Dent is the highest standard gauge station in England NOT Britain. That title goes to Corrour (roughly 1340ft above sea level) north of Rannoch on the west highland line !!!! The film even shows the sign at Dent station stating England at an elevation of 1150ft .
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nice one thanks
New Zealand TV could also benefit with this series! it would make a pleasant change from the usual rubbish, the they ruin it with constant adverts.
David, you have the same problem we have in the US....five minutes of television broken up by ten minutes of commercials, especially during the time national networks are trying to bury us in total sewage they attempt to call news. I have all but given up watching television, preferring instead to watch streaming videos, rented DVD's and TH-cam stories. MUCH more entertaining and NO political BS!
David Gandar Yay ! A Fellow New Zealander, who likes railways !
Wales-t he world's most beautiful land
Beautiful scenery, beautiful Scotland. Is that the old Roman aqueducts and walls at 3:00?
Hi. Lovely video! In the story of the 'Deviation(sits)', there was mention of the fact that the land they needed to build on was not owned by the deviationists; was it bought, was it donated?
fantastic to watch realy eng
What is the ground pattern at 2.45... Roman Fort ruins maybe?
Didn't Prince inspire the locomotive Duke in Rev Awdry's Railway Stories?
I know you probably have the answer in the 3 years since this comment. But yes. And is the only Narrow gauge engine in the Railway Series not to be based on a Talyllyn engine.
Beeching! Spit!
Marples was the real culprit, the Transport Minister of the time who was mates with people like McAlpine and Wimpey
"At 5am in the morning" as opposed to what other 5am?
Wow I really want to go to Great Brittan now after seeing this ! Back in the seventies the only thing we saw on TV A lot was Corrination Street with its beautiful Woman ! Ena Sharplis Hilda Ogden Elsie Tanner
etc , Also the constant view of Grey skies and ugly Terrace houses ! So no real enticement to venture to England ! But this has really changed my mind !
Terry Thomas Wonder if you have made it here. Many years ago I travelled the Scottish Highlands route from Perth to Inverness. When trains had carriages holding 6 people and a corridor. At one point the train would ascend at a snail's pace and we'd look down onto the tops of Scots pine trees. Once, during a wintery dawn, everyone went to the corridor and opened the windows for a clear vision of tall, snow covered pines, and long icicles hanging on the trees. They shone purest gold glowing in the sun. There were many tourists. I looked at those near me, clearly overwhelmed, silent, awestruck, with tears flowing from their eyes. Most memorable. If you do come, Terry...enjoy. Oh, do plenty research prior to any destination decisions.
Good humour some people don't see it
@@alangraves9151 Consternation Street. Stay free, A. R 😎
@@manichairdo6346 What a load of pish. Do the right thing, manic ... Delete your shitey comment. Have some self-respect.
With the exception of the Royal Deeside, bin are really lost. 🤷
the Flying Scotsman is now restored & running now
Why not Brecon Mountain Railway?!
What about beasdale bank on the west highland line
SteamLance yea, what about it?
That "Key" system to make sure 2 trains are not on the same track at the same time is still used today in India. It may seem archaic, but you can't improve on Perfection with common sense.
Electric token system , I have used to work a box that had a branch line that used it. It had it's drawbacks, though . It was possible to get on the branch line from another direction, so we found that all the tokens would ,in time end up the wrong end . The S&T had to come down with a old cardboard box and take them to the other end in a van !
I thought Harry Potter had been on a brick viaduct. ah, Beechie :)
Did the Port Murdock run back in 1992 from Australia
This is a wonderful film, an thank u much, we , love steam engine trains please send more.
Ron, wb8nmk in N W OHIO U S A June-4-2015
I would love to come and see I'm afraid it will be a long time before can visit anything like this with the virus around
Virus? 🤔
Really good, but no Talyllyn? Seriously!
It's not lost.....
Rikke Ibsen Hansen )
It wasn’t really lost the operation was carried on by Tom rolt after the passing of sir Haydn jones
In a zero-emission, post-fossil-fuel world, what sort of future will there be on the Ffestiniog Railway - battery locomotives? Some other fuel?
Houses in Rosario in The Argentine are slated with North wales Slate.
AT 30:49 IS THAT A GUY HOLDING A CAN Of BEER FLIPPING THE BIRD?
It is unfortunate that Henry Ford - with his wonderful mass-production of his automobile - ruined the train industry in America. If you live in Little Rock, Arkansas and want to take a simple train trip to Memphis, Tennessee - just 138 miles away - it takes over (YES OVER) 24 hours !!. Your train must go to Chicago, Illinois first - then on to Memphis. WHY - Henry Ford and his wonderful automobile made train travel worthless to travelers. Some Wonderful things can actually harm many people.
This place is like the island of sodor
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Most of these lines, thankfully, aren't actually lost, and the Settle and Carlisle line is in England. The title of the video is misleading.
Labour shut more railway,s than Beeching ever did, a certain Babera Castle under Wilson Gov, fact.
Flying Scots man is a beaty
"Lost railways" when they ae still open.....?
If not for the 'mericans britain would still be steam powered.
That's Germany you're talking about, with their Diesel engine.
Close down uneconomic lines and scrap steam locomotives with cutting torches. Send the debris for melting and recycling. This is the way forward. Private motor transport eclipses rail in rural areas.
OUT WITH THE ROYAL FAMILY!
Guten Tag
GO ABERDEEN!
Lost? Found I think.
Richard Beeching. What an ogre he was....
That is an unfair assessment of the man. These are at heart economic activities. I love the nostalgia but they have to make a profit.
I wouldn't say he was an ogre. He was, to me, a short-sighted, non forward thinking man, who had no thoughts of the future.
He was backed up by a Tory Government, a bit like today, when they want to build the HS2 - a monstrosity that will run for the benefit of London & Birmingham, but at the cost of everyone, including those living in Wales & Scotland! Far better to spend the money on reinstating some of the lost lines, and reduce congestion nationwide!
Wyn Parkin I would have to do more research on the HS2. I am rather wary of anti-tory rhetoric. The other day I heard someone blame Thatcher for the destruction of the local auto industry. I have intimate knowledge of that so I keeled over with laughter. Research in econ and finance is pretty boring but it will prove what lengths people will go to advance a political cause by telling blatant lies.
I don't agree. Beeching was a great visionary who saved a lot of money and brought the railways into the modern age. We have far too many preserved steam and diesel locomotives clogging up the sidings of heritage railways. These are rusting away, creating health and saftey issues, problems of parts being sold on the black market, and pollution etc.
This mess needs to be cleared up now. These rusting hulks need to be cut apart, broken up and the various metals melted down to make new and useful items.
It's only a matter of time before a lot of these "preserved" locos will face the shears and the torch.
heelfan1234
Afraid you are in a minute minority!
When I said he had no forward thinking, I was right. At the time when he destroyed Britains' Railways, the coalfields were in charge and like in the welsh valleys, most miners walked to work and the rest used a workers train. But, when the Tories decided to destroy the coalfields too, people then had to travel to find work, and not many miners had cars. If the railways had still been available then we wouldn't have the acres of tarmac, and the gridlocks, that we have now. As for preserved railways being health and safety problems, which should be scrapped, I am left wondering why you have been looking at these videos! They are our history and everyone loves these railways, Why else would they be able to survive even though Beeching did his worst by been an idiot!
And also being a GWR fan city of Truro went 100mph first
Well, it's debatable.
102.3mph vs 100mph. Who won?
Quite correct even. May not have been official but was first 100 mph. Never seen it running only at York and some years ago was on Lemon Quay, Truro where I had a business.
Another train would run before the Royal train ................. usually the Mail.
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1:02:21 Lol the sheep
They're really not 'lost' are they? That implies abandoned rights of way. A rather poor choice for a title, actually.
marvin watkins &
They cover Wales and don't even mention the Talyllyn Railway? beth yw'r f*ck go iawn!
Regarding the Scottish section of this upload: Hey, Scottish-sounding narrator: 'Lock'? Try 'Loch'. To which demographic are you (and the producers of this embarrassment) projecting?
This is a pish-poor attempt at redefining Scottish 'history' (via steam-locomotive-driven transport), replete with ersatz, tartan flummery.
As well as reading John Prebble's 'The King's Jaunt', educate yourself with: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visit_of_King_George_IV_to_Scotland
Bonus: www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v11/n01/david-craig/taking-the-hint Caveat: This is a long read, and necessitates a real sense of open-minded dedication (as well as a modicum of national pride).
Rant over. Thank you for getting so far. Pelters welcome.
Stay free. 👋