Rescue of the damaged crankshaft Honda CR 250 - 2T

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  • @vincentzompa5541
    @vincentzompa5541 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As a motorcycle mechanic for 20 years I have rebuilt many cranks this way including the Hondas. Different technique but the same result good job👍

  • @c2gutbuster
    @c2gutbuster 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you making a video that does not have stupid music and droning dialogue. It just gets down to business. In the same league as newyorkshireworkshop.

  • @mxcollin95
    @mxcollin95 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great job re-trueing the crankshaft! This video is inspiring me to find a used but decent crankshaft to try rebuilding and re-truing it. (In order to really figure this kind of stuff out you’ve got to do it, right?) Well done sir as always! 👍

  • @arnenelson4495
    @arnenelson4495 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Honda's version of crankcase stuffers which is what we called 'em back in the 60's and 70's. Been rebuilding cranks for decades.

  • @smcr4698
    @smcr4698 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Keep up the good work! Greetings from Romania👍

    • @cristian6766
      @cristian6766 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I second that! Greetings from Bucharest, Romania! 😁

    • @ameerralbasam1016
      @ameerralbasam1016 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The third ,,, IRAQ 👍

  • @t.scottswirles3052
    @t.scottswirles3052 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Perfect results, and what a beautiful final test rig. Thank you for sharing your efforts with the world.

  • @viorelindeamna6405
    @viorelindeamna6405 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bravo Paul 👍👍👍🙂

  • @reminoel483
    @reminoel483 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You are exposing so many machine shops techniques haha!!! New subscriber here. Love the content

  • @xygarkemper6392
    @xygarkemper6392 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Does that sheet metal take off not affect the horsepower or the quality of the engine?? I have a CR250 from 87 an needs rod remplacment so i don't know if I need to take those covers of..

    • @satan101101
      @satan101101 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes it will effect your bottom end power because of a lower crankcase pressure that caused by removing the cover, But your engine will run cooler at high rpm though.

  • @lalrintluangavanchhawng7483
    @lalrintluangavanchhawng7483 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    1:11 when you finally release your supressed fart after your girlfriend leaves your room.

  • @antonoudenhoven7573
    @antonoudenhoven7573 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Why was there extra metal on the crankshaft.
    My first taught was delete it lol.

  • @syaipulbahri6406
    @syaipulbahri6406 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome paul, Good Job. But Why you do Not replace every cover Kruk As ?

    • @PaulXchannel
      @PaulXchannel  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks.
      Impossible to change cover - is pressed

    • @syaipulbahri6406
      @syaipulbahri6406 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oke paul complex for re Fabrication cover.

  • @alipim3504
    @alipim3504 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Parabéns excelente trabalho sou do Brasil parabéns 👍🇧🇷

  • @wdobni
    @wdobni 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    how did the stuffer get torn up? it doesn't seem to do any work and is not connected to anything ....

    • @frankacosta5446
      @frankacosta5446 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Every part has a service limit. 1 million hours of vibration!

  • @G-spotGeorge
    @G-spotGeorge ปีที่แล้ว +2

    thanks I think I'll just buy a new one now

  • @AdiMotormotor
    @AdiMotormotor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good job,I like. 👍

  • @Andrew_Fernie
    @Andrew_Fernie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My engine had a broken part and here is how I fixed it..... I took the broken part off. Next week, how to fix a puncture... just take the tyre off.

  • @nunesmotos351
    @nunesmotos351 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Um trabalho muito organizado;dou valor Nunes motos Queimadas na Paraíba

  • @TheJagot
    @TheJagot 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yo paul what fuction the thing you remove? Nice video👍

    • @PaulXchannel
      @PaulXchannel  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks .
      Probably because of the mixture

    • @alexthebear
      @alexthebear 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It is displacers for af mixture. They help to take and give a little bit more amount of mixture ... But it will works fine!

    • @PaulXchannel
      @PaulXchannel  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      👍

  • @chiradip24
    @chiradip24 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi, Nice video!!
    could you please help me understand, when changing connecting rod kit, should we go for over size pin or same size pin? Thanks

    • @PaulXchannel
      @PaulXchannel  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The size of the pin is always the same

    • @chiradip24
      @chiradip24 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@PaulXchannel Thanks for replying. Is it possible to re-use old pin if it is not damaged?

    • @PaulXchannel
      @PaulXchannel  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes

    • @chiradip24
      @chiradip24 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@PaulXchannel Thanks again for promptly replying. Appreciate your time and patience.

  • @mecalpsha4473
    @mecalpsha4473 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Paul excellent video! What was the purpose of the 'shell' around the crank (know the stuffer usually like some sort of polymer material).

    • @PaulXchannel
      @PaulXchannel  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks.
      I think so too.

    • @martinarellano3181
      @martinarellano3181 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The purpose of the cans where for case volume. CR500 where the same way. it's not a very good design from Honda but change it in 2003

    • @5tr41ghtGuy
      @5tr41ghtGuy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@martinarellano3181 with the "cans" removed, how well does the engine run? Seems like Honda would only put them there for a reason.

    • @TheRwhitley57
      @TheRwhitley57 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@5tr41ghtGuy with no ass at all. Very flat motors with the tins removed, but you gotta do what ya gotta do

    • @sm400
      @sm400 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Probably a better repair than putting a complete Chinese crank in it...Hotnoodles or whatever flavour... 😁

  • @nathanielwinkle1955
    @nathanielwinkle1955 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Are those plates to stop turbulence rather than to add volume as this looks like an afterthought on Honda's part which I would not think likely, easier to machine the cases smaller, what do you think?

    • @grantfuller2016
      @grantfuller2016 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Paul Duffy The plates “ fill “ the volume in the crank shaft that is machined out for balance purposes , so no , you can’t just make the cases smaller .

    • @nathanielwinkle1955
      @nathanielwinkle1955 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@grantfuller2016 Oh is that's why the cranks are machined out " for balance purposes " ?

    • @evaork3746
      @evaork3746 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nathanielwinkle1955 the crank can be full round... but its a cheap ass solution from honda... and yes the cases can be smaler for more squisch

    • @nathanielwinkle1955
      @nathanielwinkle1955 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@evaork3746 thank you

    • @jeffer9499
      @jeffer9499 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@evaork3746 No it cant be full round. It is offset to counter balance the weight of the rod and piston. The metal on the outside is to take up volume inside the crankcase increasing your primary compression. While this may run. You are giving up top end generally from a lower primary compression. Many builders will fill the crankcase with epoxy to increase primary compression which generally increases your top end. There is so much science to this that it cant be explained in youtube comments.

  • @jwoodduck3207
    @jwoodduck3207 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ok where does one find such a clean designed truing stand?

  • @jeffcruz4843
    @jeffcruz4843 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi
    Cool videos👍🏻
    Did you make the crank runout tool?
    Are you a automotive engineer by trade?
    Cheers!

    • @PaulXchannel
      @PaulXchannel  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Tools made in my workshop

    • @jwoodduck3207
      @jwoodduck3207 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That is a nice trueing stand. Would you make another one for the right price? I really like the design.

  • @jmy6050
    @jmy6050 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is the crank going back into service??

  • @frankacosta5446
    @frankacosta5446 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Should have done a rod kit while you were at it.

  • @motorozwad
    @motorozwad 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    GOOD JOB :)

    • @eddiecruz407
      @eddiecruz407 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      All your videos are really good, but to run that crank with no stuffers is not good at all, the bike will loose all low end response, Honda builds that crank so it's light, and the tin can takes up the excess volume.

    • @PaulXchannel
      @PaulXchannel  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I know.
      It's only rescue of the crankshaft.
      Thanks.

  • @mariosnikolaou5212
    @mariosnikolaou5212 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man your videos are really nice!!

  • @vincentzompa5541
    @vincentzompa5541 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can also do this to four stroke cranks

  • @tk423b
    @tk423b 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What was the purpose of the covers?

    • @PaulXchannel
      @PaulXchannel  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      probably an increase in crankcase pressure

    • @frankacosta5446
      @frankacosta5446 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      To decrease crankcase volume. Less charge to the bottom end more charge to the transfer ports.

  • @diegojuarez7393
    @diegojuarez7393 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    No le afecta quitarle el recubrimiento ?

  • @Gladenundentsichert
    @Gladenundentsichert 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Theoretisch hast du damit ja sogar die Kurbelwelle erleichtert oder ? Wohin dienten die Ursprünglichen "Bleche" ? Grüße

    • @PaulXchannel
      @PaulXchannel  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ja .

    • @TorteTS
      @TorteTS 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Erhöhung der Vorverdichtung durch Verringerung des Kurbelgehäusevolumens.

  • @OriginalJami
    @OriginalJami 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you have a link with bike running ?

  • @chadrides914
    @chadrides914 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very cool.

  • @robytm
    @robytm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Loss of performance due to the increased free volume in the crankcase.
    If Honda made that covers on the crankshaft there is a reason.

    • @PaulXchannel
      @PaulXchannel  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I know but dont worry. It work well.
      There is enough power.

    • @robytm
      @robytm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@PaulXchannel yes there should be surely enough power.
      But a bit less of response at low mid range.

    • @12main
      @12main 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      In layman's language what are the crankshaft covers for?

    • @PaulXchannel
      @PaulXchannel  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@12main Probably due to a mixture of petrol and air.
      Weight down - turn up :)

    • @TorteTS
      @TorteTS 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@12main Increase the pre-compression by reducing the crankcase volume.

  • @ruswantobungkal949
    @ruswantobungkal949 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing....

  • @randomvidio6193
    @randomvidio6193 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'am from Indonesian

  • @kostassipsas4845
    @kostassipsas4845 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The best

  • @timengel7549
    @timengel7549 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    But what about the increased crank case volume?

    • @PaulXchannel
      @PaulXchannel  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Don't worry .
      It's functional.

    • @grantfuller2016
      @grantfuller2016 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Tim Engel . I have done this many times with both 125 and 250’s and can definitely state the the power loss is surprisingly small . Even on a 125 only a skilled rider would notice the difference . It does make a a difference , but it’s not big .

  • @hendyprayitno9950
    @hendyprayitno9950 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Harusnya pemadat kompresi dipasang kembali,atau pun klau rusak pemadat kompresi di buatkan dari teflon atau sejenisnya.karena dengan itu kompresi menjadi lebih padat

    • @irfanmaulana2800
      @irfanmaulana2800 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Iyaa benner bang, saya juga heran liatnya kok gak di pasangin lagi.

  • @СергейЕмельянович-ф2ь
    @СергейЕмельянович-ф2ь 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Без экранов на щеках коленчатого вала будут сильные завихрения в кривошипной камере, вследствие чего потеря мощности, тем более мотор двухтактный

    • @BMW_MAN
      @BMW_MAN 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Завихрения )) xD А резинка там уплотнительная зачем? Чувствую это не для улучшения ламинарности потоков в картере ))

  • @pablorivera1196
    @pablorivera1196 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does anyone know the name of those surface measuring watches?

  • @joeishere500
    @joeishere500 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    See,,,, hammers do work ✊

  • @nareshkumar-hj3qr
    @nareshkumar-hj3qr 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sir krank saft ko sidi krne ki mashin ka name bta do

  • @davidvelez5219
    @davidvelez5219 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Without this pieces crankcase volume is to much and pre compression is not adequate, so de bike not ride in perfect condition, 🙈

    • @79zeben
      @79zeben 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Esto es cierto pero se puede ajustar para que funcione así

    • @evaork3746
      @evaork3746 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Bullshit.... it will run and drive just fine...

    • @kwaka140
      @kwaka140 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Only OLD Villiers and the like used crankcase compression to transfer mixture. Modern engines at anything over cranking revs, and particularly on-the-pipe, use resonance. Increased crankcase volume will likely increase power, especially if other mods are done to take advantage of the extra volume.

  • @eduardbalalykin5339
    @eduardbalalykin5339 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Мастер,снимаю шляпу.!!!!

  • @steveone
    @steveone 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Whats a new needle roller bearing cost over there ?

    • @venox5183
      @venox5183 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      it's not about cost ,but about time , oem parts take so long to ship ,and it's hard to get only that bearing without buying whole crank

    • @steveone
      @steveone 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@venox5183 Bearings are available from a multitude of vendors . This bearing will be available from a third party usually a lot cheaper .

    • @venox5183
      @venox5183 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@steveone Probably , but not always these are the same quality

    • @kwaka140
      @kwaka140 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Pro-X rod. They supply silver plated flat cage bearings as well - 22.243117F. The covers would have been to reduce windage. The secondary effect would have been a reduction in crankcase volume. Removing it will probably improve thrust washer lubrication which it looked like they need. The increased windage will reduce performance and the increased crankcase volume will probably improve on-the-pipe performance. Maybe.

    • @Baboner984
      @Baboner984 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@venox5183 i can buy the bearing and have it shipped in 2 days

  • @zardportugal
    @zardportugal 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    TOP

  • @brazideccyrille572
    @brazideccyrille572 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    ci y avait des plaque dans le moteur était pas pour rien la il est bon a rien ton vilo trop de volume dans le bas moteur

  • @IvanA-k7i
    @IvanA-k7i 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    👍

  • @jamesal0
    @jamesal0 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    wrong just wrong

    • @evaork3746
      @evaork3746 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Right just right..

  • @nikolayshvedow7725
    @nikolayshvedow7725 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Варвар

  • @evaork3746
    @evaork3746 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What a cheap ass solution from honda... tin can shit... nicely done mate.... this thing will run like new... u won,t feel the diffrence.. 👍👍👍

    • @evaork3746
      @evaork3746 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank u much👍

    • @MetalMike87
      @MetalMike87 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Assembled crankshaft are kind dull and dumb ... and I think they're no more a viable solution on new engines due to their low efficiency emissions-wise