@@LeeH1989 Isla Nublar was just the showroom, something for the tourists. Site B was the factory floor; that was on Isla Sorna, eighty miles from Nublar. We bred the animals there, and nurtured them for a few months and then moved them into the park.
@@LeeH1989 Now, after the accident in the park, Hurricane Clarissa wiped out our facility on Site B; call it an act of God. We had to evacuate, of course, and the animals were released to mature on their own. "Life will find a way" as you once so eloquently put it. And by now, we have a complete ecological system on the island, with dozens of species living in their own social groups without fences, without boundaries, without constraining technology and for four years, I've tried to keep it safe from human interference.
I hope they bring up Site B's status in the next "Jurassic World" movie, and hopefully something is reported to still be living on the island. As Malcolm said it best, "life finds a way."
Honestly I dont care about the next JW movie or what they do with it. They turned Jurassic park into a fast and furious style action movie where a big muscly dude punches other big muscly dudes, oh and there's dinosaurs somewhere in there. And the whole human clone thing was ridiculous. I almost walked out of the theatre when they did that crap. I dont even count JW as canon. I hope eventually someone comes back and makes an actual proper Jurassic park 3 that isnt just an excuse to get Chris pratt to come show off his muscles.
Yeah! Imagine if a few of the raptors there managed to survive and got caught up and taken out of the island. Then, since Blue is already roaming and looking for more of her own kind maybe they might find each other and get along well enough.
I agree, If any animal has survived on Sorna after all this time the Compsognathus would be one of them. The Compys breed by InGen are hardy little dinosaurs, they feast on carrion, insects, lizards, and mammals, and unlike their extinct counterparts their pretty vicious.
The mysterious and surprisingly rich artificial ecosystem of Isla Sorna was a huge part of the allure of the island for me in the first two sequels. As a kid, I loved to imagine exploring the island's perilous jungles, in lieu of Grant's original JP3 role. That's why I found it difficult to accept that the ecosystem was effectively extinct by the time the events of Jurassic World occurred...
Except this is canonically false. Well after 2001 during Jurassic world construction they took Sorna dinosaurs for Jurassic park, such as a Sorna raptor that attacked Claire.But since none were present in 2015 on nublar and they cloned four new velociraptors, it can be assumed they left the velociraptors alone.Then in dominion film Biosyn took some dinosaurs from Sorna to their valley to show off.But this was between Fallen Kingdom and Dominion, so in the four years between Sorna definitely has dinosaurs because where else would they have gotten Buck and Doe that they feature at the end.Meanwhile the wild Pterosaurs on Sorna which we showed in The lost world definitely couldn’t have vanished.
I would expect the Compsognathus to survive because even if the Velociraptors, the Spinosaurus and other big carnivores killed off the bigger herbivores and then starved to death, the Compies are small enough to hide and they can hunt small mammals.
Microceratus is likely surviving as well. Possibly enough to sustain a particularly resourceful raptor pack. Maybe even a pteranodon or two. Other than those however nothing else would survive. The fish aren't really abundant enough for baryonyx.
Compys are like the rodents of Isla Sorna. No way Masrani recovered them all. Think about how long New Yorkers have been trying to get rid of their rat and pigeon populations.
Well it really does not make much sense that this new species made the ecosystem go into chaos, even the spinosaurus. Now I think the only one of this species that coould have been an issue was the anky and maybe at the start the Spinosaurus, but only at the start, this due the next reasons, the ankys wouldnt have natural predators at the start, this would probably change if the Trex population learned how to hunt them, this as the Rex would be the only carnivore truly capable of hunting them down, now with the spinosaurus, I say it would only be an issue in the start as how it and the other animals would react, like how the Spinosaurs would act towards other large theropod and how this will act towards it, is easy to speculate that eventualy other animals would avoid it and even if the Spinosaurus is just an INGEN recreation of the real thing, I can imagine it would still prefer to feed in the aquatic fauna of Isla Sorna. Now something people tend to forget is howtheres actualy a pretty decent amount of food for all carnivores, for example, if Parasaurolophus was already common enough to be one of the favorite among the carnivores, imagine now also with Corythosaurus.
I'm hoping they revisit site B many years after the exclusion zone, after all the dinosaurs have either been pillaged/kidnapped to go to Jurassic World, and after the remaining dinosaurs have died off. Only something has obviously survived. They could easily have Compies, Dilophosaurus and of course the big Spino too, which had been hiding in the swamps that it has made home. Totally feasible that you can have feral pigs and goats on the island as well, which were deliberately released by Ingen, to help sustain the carnivores. A few other small herbivore breeds as well that have survived maybe. You don't necessarily need big, menacing, hybrid dinosaurs and fast paced action, just make it much more darker and scarier, like in a horror format. Have a real dark feel to it. Because ultimately something has got to change to keep it fresh...
I honostly loved Site B as an island in both TLW and JP3. I thought it was fascinating with the different types of dinosaurs being shown to us, considering that we never saw them. Great island IMO!
The more I look at these videos on the islands the more I'd like a survival game or some newer comics and maybe animated series based on exploring Sorna. Its a fascinating island with all thats happened making it more like the real Jurassic park with the animals making actual habitats and the mystery surrounding the "factory floor".
Honestly, I kinda don't wanna be in the same situation that Eric was in, if Hoskins had rounded up all the dinosaurs and had put them into enclosures they would've been comfortable in I would totally go to Sorna.
This would make a great movie. Returning to site B for a three hour movie entailing crossing the island, surviving, unlocking the hidden secrets Ingen left via buildings and computers, and finding a way out. Gahh I was to see Trespasser made into a movie.
While it seems very unlikely. If the Spinosaurus survived, that would be amazing. I mean, at least it had the ability to have been able to swim to various islands or just use the water for food.
Stephen Levequr That subadult was basically a adult. And plus, how would the DPG know it was extinct? As said before, it could have moved to other islands and survived off the ocean. There’s no reason to believe why it couldn’t do that
Stephen Levequr It is extinct, but I’m sure it could handle some rexes. The supposed “sub adult” that people claim is wrong though, as this T. rex was only 37 feet long compared to the buck, who was clearly an adult, at 40 feet in length. Saying it’s a sub adult is like saying an adult man who’s 5’8 is a teenager compared to someone who is 6’3 because he’s a little shorter, it’s just absurd. The filmmakers obviously just wanted spino to win. However, was killing off the T. rex a good choice, well that’s another story...
I too am holding out hope that there's still SOME form of InGen dinosaur life left on Site B. After all, if the history of evolution has taught us anything, it's that *life...uh...finds a way.*
Klayton, thanks to your channel I was inspired to read the Jurassic Park books. They were fantastic!! You have helped make one of my favorite franchises even better.
When I think of Isla Sorna, I think of the king of that bloody island Spinosaurus. Do wish for it to return in Jurassic World 3 kicking some ass and being the good old bad boy it was but this time an anti-hero. It's a nostalgic popular dinosaur.
@@bradwhite5884 Interesting idea. I would've thought that the only way spinosaurus would be accepted would be if it lost against one adult Tyrannosaur with Spino having a questionable disadvantage. . But Spino being the hero that Rexy was in the end of Jurassic Park and in both Jurassic World movies... I guess it could work, but the dino fight would still have to happen to avoid outrage. And with T-rex having a questionable advantage to settle the score that started so long ago when spino killed the T-rex.
imagine rexy and spino teaming up against a greater treath! like with blue in jw! i don't mean that spino and rex are like yea lets be friends en team up and giving eachother an highfive but like an properfight scene with spino and rex going after the same target and walking away from eachother after the battle bc they are both injured and tired and don't have the energy to fight another battle...
@@AllosaurusJP3 I don't think people would like another hybrid. Besides, if a T-rex and a velociraptor took on an I-rex, nothing is too big a threat for a T-rex and spino. And I also think they said Indoraptor was the last hybrid.
I really hope they show something from Site B in the next film. Kind of feel like it would be an injustice without actually stating/showing on screen at least some kind of evidence. Either way, great comprehensive vid about the ecosystems Klayton.
I think the Spinosaurus is still alive in thick jungled and the wetter parts of the island. Don't forget that the Spinosaurus is quite aquatic, so it may also be in the coastal regions hunting sharks and dolphins.
At the end of The Lost World, Hammond says that the DoD was working with the Costa Rican government to set up site B as a nature preserve. So how did Ingen legally go in there and get them?
I hope something has survived, and I hope Site B still exists and is thriving. I really love Isla Sorna because there was originally more species there and all living in the wild, it gives the closest view of an actual prehistoric ecosystem. Also I think it's a bit insulting to its overall significance and role in the novels and franchise's history to have it supposedly be wiped out of its populations and to not even really show anything of it.
It would be so awesome is there was a map of Sorna that marked the different territories and terrain types. Real world question - Are there islands like this that have such a range of flora? From towering redwoods to tropical jungle all on one island?
I wouldn't be surprised by the lack of encounters of the Microceratus, Dilos, Baryonyx or Carnos. They may have just lived in areas where the characters just didn't visit? Especially if they were doing their best to avoid direct competition by raptors or tyrannosaurs.
And the Dilos have been established in both the books and the movies as being reclusive and sneaky - a true stealth predator. A lot of the Therapods would have lived near the rivers and lakes on Sorna.
Thank God for Site B. :) The life there at site B is very different than Nublar, and the environment is abit more forest Wilderness which is beautiful! Though Dangerous. I still stand by The Lost World, for being a better environment and sequel :) Also dino design! Great vid, more plz :)
This. Was. Incredible. BY FAR ONE OF FAVORITE VIDEOS FROM YOU!!!!!!! The editing, facts, and voicing is all spot-on! And that ending... AW! That melted my heart for some reason. Just the perfect gift for Valentine's Day!
Isla Sorna has a lot of mystery. Especially JP3. Thanks to DPG website, we now know a bit of history of some dinos (Cerato, Cory, Anky, and Spino) But, JP3 raptors and Pteranodons are still mystery. I guess these new genetic variations were made during 1999 with other illegal cloned dinos.
I have always felt that the JP3 raptors were genetically different from the ones in Lost World, as evidenced by how physically and even behaviorally different they were. It makes sense that since 1993, Dr. Wu and some other sneaky geneticists have been using the southern portion of Sorna as space for to continue thier genetic research, away from the prying eyes of the world. Thus, we get the illegally cloned dinos, such as Ankylosaurus and Spinosaurus. I think that the raptor pack that Grant and the others encountered on Sorna were created as part of Wu's work on creating raptors more like Blue and the others were. Kind of a link between the ones originally created on Nublar and Blue's pack. That's why they have feathers and more sophisticated behavior.
@@hufflepunk9562 Cool theory!! I agree with you!! Also, Delta and Charlie's head sculpture was a similar to JP3 Raptor. I think Grant didn't know JP3 raptors were illegal animals. Because InGen created raptors before, and he met once. So, probably he thought it's just a different tribe raptor. But probably, it's illegal cloned raptor
What interests me on this topic is the redwoods areas. In reality redwoods would die on Sorna from too much solar radiation. One could connect these trees to the Lockwood estate and assume they've been genetically modified to withstand tropical environments. If we're honest though this is just another thing Spielberg used for creative freedom.
The Lockwood connection is a really cool idea. I always loved the redwoods and TLW's environments in general, it's a much more unique place to see dinosaurs than in a generic tropic environment as shown in JP3.
The reason Steven Spielberg chose the Redwoods as a filming location for Isla Sorna was because it was a more accurate representation of the environment dinosaurs actually lived in.
I'm a big Redwood nut, so any redwoods in sci-fi films get me excited (Return of the Jedi, TLW:JP)! Glad to see some kindred spirits! I've read that 'solar radiation' effects growth rate - they're totally at the wrong latitude; but, although a temperate coniferous rainforest is quite out of place next to tropical rainforest, you do get some examples of such forests in south America. They could be genetically modified, and redwoods do grow very fast (just look at how they're now thriving in the U.K.!), but my headcanon was always that Isla Sorna's redwoods were simply an undiscovered species in the cypress family.
@@speedracer2008 Not precisely. A modern redwood environment is only slightly more accurate than modern tropics. This applies even less to the cretaceous because that's when flowering plants began to dominate. (Frustratingly Wikipedia seems to be contradicting what I learned on this topic in college.)
@@ealing456 I'm only about as kindred as my curiosity in biology takes me. As soon as I get to these statements on Wikipedia contradicting what I was taught, my thirst for botany is quickly quenched. And it makes me long for the day I figure out what the hell I'm actually doing with my career.
Microceratus & compsognathus - I guarantee that, those two species survived! The only reason I can imagine why Microceratops would go extinct is that, they never found a reliable food source in order to thrive. But Compsognathus on the other hand, was a scavenger, able to eat a wide variety of small invertebrates, as well as small mammals, reptiles and amphibians. And if Compsognathus is thriving, then so are the Raptors.
Juan Derful And I imagine they took over the island, filling empty niches left by the other dinosaurs, Imagine it, Compies the size of raptors or even T.rex! Or Microceratops the size of Parasaurs or even small sauropods!
@@beastmaster0934 Evolution on that scale would take thousands of years, and since in the canon it's only been around 20 years since the mass extinction on the island I would imagine the Compies and Microceratops inhabiting the island wouldn't have changed biology too much. However it's possible that they developed into multiple subspecies, or even species, to start to fill those roles.
I like the JPOG music in the background. What other animals aside from dinosaurs are living on Site B, and how do they fit in this ecosystem? The same thing I wonder about the flora, both modern and resurrected. Site B's ecosystem contains of much more than just the dinosaurs alone I assume.
In “The Evolution of Claire,” Masrani mentions patching going on at Site B at the same time species were transferred to Nublar again for 2015. Trevorrow confirmed the book canon to the films
I personally believe in the book theory that Site B was going to collapse in on itself eventually. Despite being a ridiculously over sized island with remarkable ecological variety, there was no way it could support a sustainable population of prey animals to predatory animals. Especially for how many large herbivores there were around. And how quickly the raptors bred.
Your videos always pose some interesting questions. They make me want to start writing spin-off graphic novels and short stories about Trespasser, Site B, and the genetic modifications of the illegally cloned spinosaurus. I like the idea that Masrani, as a favor to John Hammond, came up with a means to fabricate information about animal extinctions on Isla Sorna. Saying they had taken the last surviving specimens from Isla Sorna to begin the park, but actually leaving what remained untouched. Considering how the original novels ended, I am more inclined to believe that the ecosystem on Site B really did collapse. The "amalgam testing" released new species into an already predator-heavy ecosystem, and the island probably had very little flora for all of that megafauna to graze on, as well.
Tripplestryke 245 I seriously doubt that the Spinosaurus wiped out 6 tyrannosaurs, especially taking the fact that he struggled with a T-Rex that was smaller than him. The Buck was 40 feet long, 16 feet tall, and 8 tons, around the same size as the Spinosaurus. So if a 36 foot long, 14.5 foot tall, 6 ton trex was able to give Spinosaurus a hard time, then Buck, an highly aggressive, experienced T-Rex, would be able to kill him. Even worse, I think that the Buck and Doe would double team Spinosaurus.
The Lost World is my favorite movie. Its ending had a huge impact me as a kid and hammered home my belife in the conservation of nature. It also set up Sorna in the JP universe as the island that a lot of stories would take place. I always fantisized of an island littered with old ruined buildings and crumbling fencing. A place holding InGens secrets, if one was brave or crazy enough to go find them. I adore Isla Sorna. So JW kinda just off screen destroying it pisses me off something feirce.
Im suprised so many different dinosaurs could survive for that long, I mean, so many dinosaurs different species of dinosaurs from many different time periods have suddenly just been... thrown into the mix together on one tropical island, but from what we know, dinosaurs can be....... unpredictable
I wonder if we will see site b again and this new Sanctuary Island they talked about in the fallen kingdom I hope we see this island's again in the last movie
I wish we'll revisit site B again in the future installments and maybe show the two sections of the island in the same movie which is the redwood section and the tropical section to fully make the difference of ecosystems in Lost World and JP3 makes more sense.
Also if I grew these dinos on Sorna what would you say or think when it came down to ecosystem? 10 Apatosaurs 4 Diplodocus 13 Edmontosaurus 13 Parasaurolophus 13 Maiasaura 10 Triceratops 11 Stegosaurus 9 Pachycephalosaurus 20 Gallimimus 6 Ankylosaurs 6 Tyrannosaurs 18 Raptors 2 Carnotaurs 12 Dilos 40 Compies And 10 Pteranodons
@@Memosaurus0917 how would the sauropods survive and reproduce on the island sauropods have lots of kids and leave them but the compys would eat them before they grow up
Considering the size of some of these hadrosaur nests and the fact that many would hit sexual maturity well before skeletal maturity, it doesn't surprise me that Parasaurolophus had a population explosion.
Thats why also consider it weird all this thing about Sorna ecosystem fking up, imagine now that they even added Corythosaurus, that must be a god amount of preys for carnivores.
It would really be sweet to see a movie about them in this setting! More underground and backstory type deal. This is sooo cool to me idk why something about restricted and sweet dinos is something pretty cool
@@larryfrye5955 like Stan Lee (Rest In Peace) said. When you have two popular characters similar in power fight each other, you usually want to end it in a draw so that the audience can spend the rest of theur lives debating who would win. . Here's the thing. Lots of people were mad about T-rex losing. If you make T-rex lose, then the same people will be even more outraged. If you make T-rex win, then spino fans will be angry. Nit to mention the general audience will see it as a cheap attempt at making up for the T-rex losing in JP3. But if the spini had a questionable disadvantage, T-rex fans are happy thinking T-rex won and that disadvantage did not matter, spino fans are happy because they think spino only lost because of that disadvantage, and people are okay with it because it still is consustent with JP3 in that spino is more powerful than T-rex, but it lost because ut gad a disadvantage. And when the T-rex fans can no longer be in denial, they will at least still have the joy of seeing a T-rex beat a spino. Think, maybe spino's health bar is lowered to 80% before fighting T-rex.
Ninja Hombrepalito I mean I honestly see Rexy or the Doe killing the Spinosaurus. Female Tyrannosaurus are larger and more aggressive than the male Tyrannosaurus and we saw that it had some problems fighting the smallest in the franchise (not counting the infant). We literally saw Rexy toss and throw Indominus around in a malnourished state, if Rexy pulled that off on Spinosaurus then surely it would’ve broken its back and have a fucked up neck.
@@abramrodriguez5919 where did you get that female T-rex are larger and more aggressive? . Rexy won after almost being killed by an animal that can tank bazookas, because she received help from a velociraptor... ? Honestly, Jurassic World might have been the weakest movie of the franchise. I think most people who do like it, like it because they are fans of the franchise and because it was the first movie to come out of the franchise in over a decade, and it was super hyped. Or they are fans of surrealism. If we want to better the franchise, it is recommendable that we abandon plot induced stupidity. It made no sense that Rexy won, and even less that Blue could even do anything to I-rex. . So sure, a T-rex could easily defeat... *The* Spinosaurus... in a crappy movie, that is. The only way this fight could successfully play out in a movie would be if T-rex wins with a questionable advantage, which is basically the same as Spino losing with a questionable disadvantage. Fans will love the movie, because they will believe what they want to believe. Because that scenario allows it.
Bud, I think you should have gave us your opinion more on this instead of going by the info they gave us. The illegally cloned dinosaurs causing an ecosystem impact is extremely flawed. How can an Ankylosaurus or Corythosaurus cause any damage so impactful? On a island that's dubbed the biggest of the five? We saw only 1 Ceratosaurus whom probably hunted the juvenile ones. The only exception here is the last illegal cloned dinosaur Spinosaurus since it was the super predator of that island. But it was in hunting down... anything. It was in the rivers, hunting T Rex's and herbivores. Personally, I'm not fan of this stuff completely destroying Sorna with a poor explanation. I think the director just did this to have an excuse for Fallen Kingdom.
Can't agree more. It's also strange that they felt the need to explain the additional JP3 dinos as additions that were cloned after TLW took place where there was really no need since it took place on a completely different part of the island.
They retconned the entire lore to justify the turd of a film that FK was. That's why FK is my least favourite film in the series, I feel they sought to kill off everything that the other films had done in order to get the animals off the islands and get the whole 'dinosaurs eating ppl on the mainland' plotline; think about it, Nublar has been totaled by Mt. Sibo's sudden eruption and Sorna was basically given a dishonourable off-screen death which was barely mentioned in the film and only elaborated on on the DPG's website, which is only meant to further promote FK.
The idea of a single animal wrecking that entire ecosystem is just silly. The Spino's hyper aggressive, reckless behavior would've gotten it killed. There's no way it would walk away unscathed if it ran afoul of the mated T.rex pair, if it walked away at all.
I don’t think that Spinosaurus actually went after T-Rexes. The whole “urine” scene could just mean that he’s territorial, like how many predators in the wild are today. I mean, the only reason why Spino even encountered the T-Rex was because he just happened to be there. That being said, he struggled with that same T-Rex. He didn’t destroy the T-Rex, he won due to him getting a lucky shot. So if he struggled with that, then imagine him trying to take on Buck and Doe, who were the same size as Spinosaurus.
the trex in jp3 is adult also that is slightly shorter than the buck while the full grown female trexes are bigger than the Male, Rexy is the biggest, doe is the 2nd, but is the 3rd and full grown bull is the 4th, they are all full grown just slightly shorter than the other.
According to someone involved in JP3, i remember hearing it in the making of videos from the DVD, the InGen's Spinosaur does hunt T-Rexes, of course it does not mean he would be lucky everytime he fought one
Black Wolf it was over two feet shorter than Buck, and at least three tons lighter. The Buck is confirmed to be eight tons in weight, and closer to Rexy’s size, whose larger than Spinosaurus.
@@mjjones2241 it was 3 feet shorter than the buck in length and 1.5 feet shorter than the buck in height, even in the script stated it's a full grown bull trex, it hasn't changed since then.
Happy Valentine's Day!! :D!!! Such a pity we never got to see so many animals before their return to extinction... but that's chaos for ya. Also. I don't believe the JP3 raptors were bred alongside the tiger tribe. I think they were illegally bred raptors as well. They do seem to have bird dna, meaning a more "correct" version of a raptor. if we take what we know of the Spinosaurus being the poster child for the illegal experiments, we know that it was an experiment to attempt feathers in is appearance (as Wu's experiment was apparently for, seeing as that seemed difficult for him to do.) It makes no sense for him to try it on one animal individually if we are to assume it was the only one. He'd need fast breeding and ultimately fast growing specimens. And what better than raptors? They are smaller and likely grow quickly and would promote better results before the big experiment. And what do these raptors sport? Quills. Protofeathers. And if we want to stretch this idea further, look closely at the males patterns. Who do they remind you of? They sport the trademark "Blue stripes". These raptors are very exotic, very different in their appearance and behavior. The tiger tribe is seen to be aggressive, even to their own kind as seen in the movie, meaning they have no order nor social structure beyond brute force. The feather tribe however is seen to have a VERY ordered social structure to the point that it's eerily "civilized". They acted on getting back their young, followed through dangerous territory for that end and even LEFT the people responsible alone when they got what they wanted by visual direct order from their matriarch. These raptors cannot have simply been an aberration so strikingly different from everything of appearance to social order. They have to have been made and TAUGHT. I think these were actually the proto stage of what would become the events of JW all these years later.
Could you make a video about the Walking with Dinosaurs series, just a short one, because it is a big part of any dinosaur-nut kid's childhood, as big as Jurassic Park.
It's still an ass pull how they say they moved ALL the remaining dinosaurs from Isla Sorna to Nublar. Sorna is 5x bigger and ain't no way Nublar can house that many dinosaurs. Plus y'all really gonna think Spinosaurus was on Nublar? Everything including Rexy would have been dead by then if it was. There would have been a big attraction for that thing. Idk.. I think Colin screwed up the franchise. Fallen Kingdom was bad too.
God I love videos like these. Makes it feel like there really is a lost world with dinos out there. If I could see just ONE dinosaur in my life time it would either be a sauropod like Apatosaurus or a stegosaur like Kentrosaurus.
Imagine what Mt. Sibo did to the ecosystem of Nublar. Those poor animals that managed to swim ashore after landing in the water after the eruption, would probably starve to death… :(
Maybe, maybe not. If you look carefully at an aerial view of the island after the volcano exploded, there was some areas of Nublar untouched by the lava flow. I like to think that the ones who landed in the water, somehow swam and made it to the other side of the island and lived.
@@onetrackmind3558Bro 1 massive extremely Agressive Spinosaurus 6 T-Rex(without the Offsprings) 18 Velociraptors (They certainly grew in numbers) 12 Dilophosaurus 2 Carnotaurus 5 Baryonyx 10 Pteranodon And who knows How many Ceratosaurus Lived on island
@@João-u8b those raptors couldn't have grown in numbers. Animals don't constantly breed like that. And there were two raptors, one aggressive the other more tactical. The Dilophosaurus weren't shown, same with Baryonyx and Carnotaurus, as Klayton said they're most likely killed off. That only leaves 1 Spinosaurus (one can't breed alone), 6 T-Rexes but they also got a predator that can kill them easily, and then we got velociraptors but they aren't much and the Tigers only hunt in tall grass and aren't coordinated as well as the others.
Hey klay, today i have a very different question... if im not mistaken, your old intro featured goro from mortal kombat and your channel banner featured the soulnado, also from mortal kombat... so my question is, are you a fan of mk and if yes, are you hyper for mk11?
There is many dinos I believe are still alive on site B. Compys, microceratus due to there size. The gallis to them being of a smaller size than all the other herbivores. And the Pteranodons as they eat fish. Also I don’t think the spino was on Site B when it went down hill they probably moved it to Nublar and kept it away from everything else due to its aggressive nature.
For me it was always the raptor who killed Robert that was the big one. From the moment she locked eyes with him trying to save Joffrey… she remembered him, every time he came to the paddock, every time she saw him, the moment she was out of that paddock she was hunting him. I do believe the raptor paddock we saw had eggs in no doubt, but it was the big one laying the eggs, I always liked to think the other two raptors changed from female to male and the big girl led the pack I might be wrong but that’s just my thoughts Love your channel as always Klayton 👏
Who else is here after his most recent upload? I'm scouring for more sorna info now lol this just threw a theory my wife and I came up with a few nights ago right out the window lol can't wait to see what happens next
I had no idea the Brachiosaurus and Mamenchisaurus lived in different parts of the island, as well as Ankylosaurus, which was referenced in a deleted scene in the LWJP script, where they actually died in a stampede, causing them to go extinct again.
Since most of the dinosaurs were barely moved I’m pretty sure sorna still has a functioning food chain and habitat so it wouldn’t be too far off for the island to still be the same
The impression you get from the original film is that they did breed Dinos on Nublar, since during the initial tour with Hammond, the three witness a raptor hatching
Who needs a valentine when you can watch Jurassic park all day
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@@amerikanski3956 Calm down m8, life finds a way...
"These creatures require our absence to survive not our help, and if we could only step aside and trust in nature, life will find a way."
I love Sorna
it`s "Life, uh, finds a way"
@@gamerxt333 Well ugh there it is...
Series should have ended right there, with those words
I love Sorna too. Thank God for Site B.
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"God has nothing to do with it"
- Ian Malcom
Thank God for Site B.
Our real lord and saviour
"Site....B ?....."
@@LeeH1989 Isla Nublar was just the showroom, something for the tourists. Site B was the factory floor; that was on Isla Sorna, eighty miles from Nublar. We bred the animals there, and nurtured them for a few months and then moved them into the park.
@@victorbruant389 Ohh.. ohhh I did not know that.....
@@LeeH1989 Now, after the accident in the park, Hurricane Clarissa wiped out our facility on Site B; call it an act of God. We had to evacuate, of course, and the animals were released to mature on their own. "Life will find a way" as you once so eloquently put it. And by now, we have a complete ecological system on the island, with dozens of species living in their own social groups without fences, without boundaries, without constraining technology and for four years, I've tried to keep it safe from human interference.
I hope they bring up Site B's status in the next "Jurassic World" movie, and hopefully something is reported to still be living on the island. As Malcolm said it best, "life finds a way."
Honestly I dont care about the next JW movie or what they do with it. They turned Jurassic park into a fast and furious style action movie where a big muscly dude punches other big muscly dudes, oh and there's dinosaurs somewhere in there. And the whole human clone thing was ridiculous. I almost walked out of the theatre when they did that crap. I dont even count JW as canon. I hope eventually someone comes back and makes an actual proper Jurassic park 3 that isnt just an excuse to get Chris pratt to come show off his muscles.
I would like to see site b revisited as well.
KGrove94 I wanna know about the baby Rex and it’s parents
@@whiteout0111 I agree. Next movies the heroes and the good dinos will be saving the world from bad guys or bad dinos. What a waste.
Yeah! Imagine if a few of the raptors there managed to survive and got caught up and taken out of the island. Then, since Blue is already roaming and looking for more of her own kind maybe they might find each other and get along well enough.
I agree, If any animal has survived on Sorna after all this time the Compsognathus would be one of them. The Compys breed by InGen are hardy little dinosaurs, they feast on carrion, insects, lizards, and mammals, and unlike their extinct counterparts their pretty vicious.
The mysterious and surprisingly rich artificial ecosystem of Isla Sorna was a huge part of the allure of the island for me in the first two sequels. As a kid, I loved to imagine exploring the island's perilous jungles, in lieu of Grant's original JP3 role.
That's why I found it difficult to accept that the ecosystem was effectively extinct by the time the events of Jurassic World occurred...
Except this is canonically false. Well after 2001 during Jurassic world construction they took Sorna dinosaurs for Jurassic park, such as a Sorna raptor that attacked Claire.But since none were present in 2015 on nublar and they cloned four new velociraptors, it can be assumed they left the velociraptors alone.Then in dominion film Biosyn took some dinosaurs from Sorna to their valley to show off.But this was between Fallen Kingdom and Dominion, so in the four years between Sorna definitely has dinosaurs because where else would they have gotten Buck and Doe that they feature at the end.Meanwhile the wild Pterosaurs on Sorna which we showed in The lost world definitely couldn’t have vanished.
I would expect the Compsognathus to survive because even if the Velociraptors, the Spinosaurus and other big carnivores killed off the bigger herbivores and then starved to death, the Compies are small enough to hide and they can hunt small mammals.
Microceratus is likely surviving as well. Possibly enough to sustain a particularly resourceful raptor pack. Maybe even a pteranodon or two. Other than those however nothing else would survive. The fish aren't really abundant enough for baryonyx.
@@jennytalia6724 Indeed and I have to say if any raptor packs could survive it would have to be the one in JP3.
Compys are like the rodents of Isla Sorna. No way Masrani recovered them all. Think about how long New Yorkers have been trying to get rid of their rat and pigeon populations.
Well it really does not make much sense that this new species made the ecosystem go into chaos, even the spinosaurus. Now I think the only one of this species that coould have been an issue was the anky and maybe at the start the Spinosaurus, but only at the start, this due the next reasons, the ankys wouldnt have natural predators at the start, this would probably change if the Trex population learned how to hunt them, this as the Rex would be the only carnivore truly capable of hunting them down, now with the spinosaurus, I say it would only be an issue in the start as how it and the other animals would react, like how the Spinosaurs would act towards other large theropod and how this will act towards it, is easy to speculate that eventualy other animals would avoid it and even if the Spinosaurus is just an INGEN recreation of the real thing, I can imagine it would still prefer to feed in the aquatic fauna of Isla Sorna. Now something people tend to forget is howtheres actualy a pretty decent amount of food for all carnivores, for example, if Parasaurolophus was already common enough to be one of the favorite among the carnivores, imagine now also with Corythosaurus.
I'm hoping they revisit site B many years after the exclusion zone, after all the dinosaurs have either been pillaged/kidnapped to go to Jurassic World, and after the remaining dinosaurs have died off. Only something has obviously survived. They could easily have Compies, Dilophosaurus and of course the big Spino too, which had been hiding in the swamps that it has made home.
Totally feasible that you can have feral pigs and goats on the island as well, which were deliberately released by Ingen, to help sustain the carnivores. A few other small herbivore breeds as well that have survived maybe. You don't necessarily need big, menacing, hybrid dinosaurs and fast paced action, just make it much more darker and scarier, like in a horror format. Have a real dark feel to it. Because ultimately something has got to change to keep it fresh...
I honostly loved Site B as an island in both TLW and JP3. I thought it was fascinating with the different types of dinosaurs being shown to us, considering that we never saw them. Great island IMO!
Wouldn't it be awesome if somehow site b was tied Into Jurassic world 3 in some way
Ray Correa but if you have seen Jurassic park 2 it’s likely that this isn’t going to happen.
@@alexb9428 Why is that? It was used again on JP3 wasn't it? They could find ways to make it relevant again.
You were right 😳
@@thebigman9705 yea just seen the teaser image, that was a lucky guess lol
@@C0sm1c.n00dle yea lol
Stark actually survived the events of the lost world and has been living on the island as a tribal for over a decade.
The more I look at these videos on the islands the more I'd like a survival game or some newer comics and maybe animated series based on exploring Sorna. Its a fascinating island with all thats happened making it more like the real Jurassic park with the animals making actual habitats and the mystery surrounding the "factory floor".
*Those darn Compies. The Prehistoric Cockroaches you can't get rid of so easily.... :P*
Ya know I never really ever thought about the ecosystems on Sorna.
I'd love to live there, lol
Honestly, I kinda don't wanna be in the same situation that Eric was in, if Hoskins had rounded up all the dinosaurs and had put them into enclosures they would've been comfortable in I would totally go to Sorna.
This would make a great movie. Returning to site B for a three hour movie entailing crossing the island, surviving, unlocking the hidden secrets Ingen left via buildings and computers, and finding a way out. Gahh I was to see Trespasser made into a movie.
While it seems very unlikely. If the Spinosaurus survived, that would be amazing. I mean, at least it had the ability to have been able to swim to various islands or just use the water for food.
Mister Hillman I consider that JW scene as kind of like a Easter Egg. I don’t personally see it meaning much else
According to the DPG. Its extinct. Even if their datas wrong, its unlikely it survived against 6+ Tyrannosaurs when it could barley handle a subadult.
Stephen Levequr That subadult was basically a adult. And plus, how would the DPG know it was extinct? As said before, it could have moved to other islands and survived off the ocean. There’s no reason to believe why it couldn’t do that
@@kaijuslayer3334 If Spinosaurus could handle the open ocean, we would've found it's fossils in more than just North Africa.
Stephen Levequr It is extinct, but I’m sure it could handle some rexes. The supposed “sub adult” that people claim is wrong though, as this T. rex was only 37 feet long compared to the buck, who was clearly an adult, at 40 feet in length. Saying it’s a sub adult is like saying an adult man who’s 5’8 is a teenager compared to someone who is 6’3 because he’s a little shorter, it’s just absurd. The filmmakers obviously just wanted spino to win. However, was killing off the T. rex a good choice, well that’s another story...
Epic ending, "something has survived". I totally agree on that. There has to be something left on isla sorna.
I too am holding out hope that there's still SOME form of InGen dinosaur life left on Site B. After all, if the history of evolution has taught us anything, it's that *life...uh...finds a way.*
7:27 The only main and best reason why we all came here for. I like how the video got a serious and dark vibe with it.
#HeroSpinoForJW3
Yep. This is easily one of my favorite videos you've made. I freaking love your channel!
Klayton, thanks to your channel I was inspired to read the Jurassic Park books. They were fantastic!! You have helped make one of my favorite franchises even better.
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When I think of Isla Sorna, I think of the king of that bloody island Spinosaurus. Do wish for it to return in Jurassic World 3 kicking some ass and being the good old bad boy it was but this time an anti-hero. It's a nostalgic popular dinosaur.
I want the Spino be a hero in the movie and do roar pose as well, the same goes for the Dilo as well
It will be better if T REX kicks its ass. A rematch
@@bradwhite5884 Interesting idea. I would've thought that the only way spinosaurus would be accepted would be if it lost against one adult Tyrannosaur with Spino having a questionable disadvantage.
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But Spino being the hero that Rexy was in the end of Jurassic Park and in both Jurassic World movies... I guess it could work, but the dino fight would still have to happen to avoid outrage. And with T-rex having a questionable advantage to settle the score that started so long ago when spino killed the T-rex.
imagine rexy and spino teaming up against a greater treath! like with blue in jw! i don't mean that spino and rex are like yea lets be friends en team up and giving eachother an highfive but like an properfight scene with spino and rex going after the same target and walking away from eachother after the battle bc they are both injured and tired and don't have the energy to fight another battle...
@@AllosaurusJP3 I don't think people would like another hybrid. Besides, if a T-rex and a velociraptor took on an I-rex, nothing is too big a threat for a T-rex and spino. And I also think they said Indoraptor was the last hybrid.
I really hope they show something from Site B in the next film. Kind of feel like it would be an injustice without actually stating/showing on screen at least some kind of evidence. Either way, great comprehensive vid about the ecosystems Klayton.
I think the Spinosaurus is still alive in thick jungled and the wetter parts of the island. Don't forget that the Spinosaurus is quite aquatic, so it may also be in the coastal regions hunting sharks and dolphins.
At the end of The Lost World, Hammond says that the DoD was working with the Costa Rican government to set up site B as a nature preserve. So how did Ingen legally go in there and get them?
@Asher Nah, it's a plot hole. Hammond set that up as a preserve - no one went there after The Lost World; JP3 and onwards aren't canon, to me.
@@hanburgundy4317 Agreed. Nothing past Lost World is cannon.
@@napoleonbonaparteempereurd4676 that's not how it works but ok.
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It is for me.
I guess you guys also believe that no one ever enters a restricted nature reserve in real life despite what the law says.
I love the idea of a thriving ecosystem with life cycles and food chains of dinosaurs
I hope something has survived, and I hope Site B still exists and is thriving. I really love Isla Sorna because there was originally more species there and all living in the wild, it gives the closest view of an actual prehistoric ecosystem. Also I think it's a bit insulting to its overall significance and role in the novels and franchise's history to have it supposedly be wiped out of its populations and to not even really show anything of it.
Thanks this helped a lot with get the right creatures on my isla sirna map on jwe2
It would be so awesome is there was a map of Sorna that marked the different territories and terrain types.
Real world question - Are there islands like this that have such a range of flora? From towering redwoods to tropical jungle all on one island?
I’ve been wanting this video for a while! The ecology of the islands is definitely my favourite part of JP
I wouldn't be surprised by the lack of encounters of the Microceratus, Dilos, Baryonyx or Carnos. They may have just lived in areas where the characters just didn't visit? Especially if they were doing their best to avoid direct competition by raptors or tyrannosaurs.
Especially Baryonyx, since Bary were psicoveres, its likely the Barys would've lived near the rivers and lakes of Sorna.
And the Dilos have been established in both the books and the movies as being reclusive and sneaky - a true stealth predator. A lot of the Therapods would have lived near the rivers and lakes on Sorna.
I’m dominion we saw microceratus on sorna
One of his most informative videos to date! Love The Lost World: Jurassic Park lore!!!
Thank God for Site B.
:) The life there at site B is very different than Nublar, and the environment is abit more forest Wilderness which is beautiful! Though Dangerous.
I still stand by The Lost World, for being a better environment and sequel :) Also dino design!
Great vid, more plz :)
This. Was. Incredible. BY FAR ONE OF FAVORITE VIDEOS FROM YOU!!!!!!! The editing, facts, and voicing is all spot-on! And that ending... AW! That melted my heart for some reason. Just the perfect gift for Valentine's Day!
Isla Sorna has a lot of mystery. Especially JP3.
Thanks to DPG website, we now know a bit of history of some dinos (Cerato, Cory, Anky, and Spino)
But, JP3 raptors and Pteranodons are still mystery. I guess these new genetic variations were made during 1999 with other illegal cloned dinos.
I have always felt that the JP3 raptors were genetically different from the ones in Lost World, as evidenced by how physically and even behaviorally different they were. It makes sense that since 1993, Dr. Wu and some other sneaky geneticists have been using the southern portion of Sorna as space for to continue thier genetic research, away from the prying eyes of the world. Thus, we get the illegally cloned dinos, such as Ankylosaurus and Spinosaurus. I think that the raptor pack that Grant and the others encountered on Sorna were created as part of Wu's work on creating raptors more like Blue and the others were. Kind of a link between the ones originally created on Nublar and Blue's pack. That's why they have feathers and more sophisticated behavior.
@@hufflepunk9562 Cool theory!! I agree with you!! Also, Delta and Charlie's head sculpture was a similar to JP3 Raptor. I think Grant didn't know JP3 raptors were illegal animals. Because InGen created raptors before, and he met once. So, probably he thought it's just a different tribe raptor. But probably, it's illegal cloned raptor
That gave me goosebumps when said "something has survived"
What interests me on this topic is the redwoods areas. In reality redwoods would die on Sorna from too much solar radiation. One could connect these trees to the Lockwood estate and assume they've been genetically modified to withstand tropical environments. If we're honest though this is just another thing Spielberg used for creative freedom.
The Lockwood connection is a really cool idea. I always loved the redwoods and TLW's environments in general, it's a much more unique place to see dinosaurs than in a generic tropic environment as shown in JP3.
The reason Steven Spielberg chose the Redwoods as a filming location for Isla Sorna was because it was a more accurate representation of the environment dinosaurs actually lived in.
I'm a big Redwood nut, so any redwoods in sci-fi films get me excited (Return of the Jedi, TLW:JP)! Glad to see some kindred spirits!
I've read that 'solar radiation' effects growth rate - they're totally at the wrong latitude; but, although a temperate coniferous rainforest is quite out of place next to tropical rainforest, you do get some examples of such forests in south America.
They could be genetically modified, and redwoods do grow very fast (just look at how they're now thriving in the U.K.!), but my headcanon was always that Isla Sorna's redwoods were simply an undiscovered species in the cypress family.
@@speedracer2008 Not precisely. A modern redwood environment is only slightly more accurate than modern tropics. This applies even less to the cretaceous because that's when flowering plants began to dominate. (Frustratingly Wikipedia seems to be contradicting what I learned on this topic in college.)
@@ealing456 I'm only about as kindred as my curiosity in biology takes me. As soon as I get to these statements on Wikipedia contradicting what I was taught, my thirst for botany is quickly quenched. And it makes me long for the day I figure out what the hell I'm actually doing with my career.
Microceratus & compsognathus - I guarantee that, those two species survived!
The only reason I can imagine why Microceratops would go extinct is that, they never found a reliable food source in order to thrive. But Compsognathus on the other hand, was a scavenger, able to eat a wide variety of small invertebrates, as well as small mammals, reptiles and amphibians.
And if Compsognathus is thriving, then so are the Raptors.
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And I imagine they took over the island, filling empty niches left by the other dinosaurs,
Imagine it, Compies the size of raptors or even T.rex!
Or Microceratops the size of Parasaurs or even small sauropods!
@@beastmaster0934 Evolution on that scale would take thousands of years, and since in the canon it's only been around 20 years since the mass extinction on the island I would imagine the Compies and Microceratops inhabiting the island wouldn't have changed biology too much. However it's possible that they developed into multiple subspecies, or even species, to start to fill those roles.
The compys survived 100 percent
I like the JPOG music in the background.
What other animals aside from dinosaurs are living on Site B, and how do they fit in this ecosystem? The same thing I wonder about the flora, both modern and resurrected. Site B's ecosystem contains of much more than just the dinosaurs alone I assume.
5:56 isle players: oh no, so sad, how terrible that dilos did not make it
In “The Evolution of Claire,” Masrani mentions patching going on at Site B at the same time species were transferred to Nublar again for 2015. Trevorrow confirmed the book canon to the films
The little raptor in the intro is my Valentine - I call her 'the little one' as opposed to the big one. Long may she screech her heart out....😍
I personally believe in the book theory that Site B was going to collapse in on itself eventually. Despite being a ridiculously over sized island with remarkable ecological variety, there was no way it could support a sustainable population of prey animals to predatory animals. Especially for how many large herbivores there were around. And how quickly the raptors bred.
If you read the original novel you'd be surprised at how many raptors can go unnoticed
Your videos always pose some interesting questions. They make me want to start writing spin-off graphic novels and short stories about Trespasser, Site B, and the genetic modifications of the illegally cloned spinosaurus. I like the idea that Masrani, as a favor to John Hammond, came up with a means to fabricate information about animal extinctions on Isla Sorna. Saying they had taken the last surviving specimens from Isla Sorna to begin the park, but actually leaving what remained untouched. Considering how the original novels ended, I am more inclined to believe that the ecosystem on Site B really did collapse. The "amalgam testing" released new species into an already predator-heavy ecosystem, and the island probably had very little flora for all of that megafauna to graze on, as well.
The feared King will return.
The feared king that was getting dominated by a 37 foot long Rex lmao
@@univerex-8061 rexy 44 feet long
Best last line to a video you have done and I’ve seen them all.
I personally believe that only a few species were removed from Sorna, and the rest of the species continued to thrive without the threat of volcanoes.
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Always nice to see this compendium videos as reference material.
what if a worker was left behind in one of these islands,and he survived till some time
I love Isla Sorna! I really hope life has survived and be explored.
Of course the spinosaurus would be at the top!
wouldn’t they?
6 Rexes!!! Jeez!
You meant, wouldn't HE? Cuz there was only one spino sadly
Don’t Know what gender it was
I simply feel bad calling a creature ‘It’
@@tripplestryke245 I think it was confirmed to be a male
Tripplestryke 245 I seriously doubt that the Spinosaurus wiped out 6 tyrannosaurs, especially taking the fact that he struggled with a T-Rex that was smaller than him. The Buck was 40 feet long, 16 feet tall, and 8 tons, around the same size as the Spinosaurus. So if a 36 foot long, 14.5 foot tall, 6 ton trex was able to give Spinosaurus a hard time, then Buck, an highly aggressive, experienced T-Rex, would be able to kill him. Even worse, I think that the Buck and Doe would double team Spinosaurus.
No I meant that there were 6 rexes on the island!
That last sentence gave me chills man
The Lost World is my favorite movie. Its ending had a huge impact me as a kid and hammered home my belife in the conservation of nature. It also set up Sorna in the JP universe as the island that a lot of stories would take place. I always fantisized of an island littered with old ruined buildings and crumbling fencing. A place holding InGens secrets, if one was brave or crazy enough to go find them. I adore Isla Sorna.
So JW kinda just off screen destroying it pisses me off something feirce.
Hearing "Something has survived" made me smile
Whenever you upload a video my day gets so much better than it already is! Love your videos man :D
Great video! I appreciate the better understanding of what was and wasnt on site B.
Great video 👍🏻 Klayton
"i have a felling, that something has survived". We need Klayton saying this frase in a new movie now!!!
Im suprised so many different dinosaurs could survive for that long, I mean, so many dinosaurs different species of dinosaurs from many different time periods have suddenly just been... thrown into the mix together on one tropical island, but from what we know, dinosaurs can be....... unpredictable
I like the Lost World quote on 9:00 Something has survived
I wonder if we will see site b again and this new Sanctuary Island they talked about in the fallen kingdom I hope we see this island's again in the last movie
I feel like the hole world is going to be taken by the dinosaurs I really want them to reclaim the world again that would be awesome
I think the sancturary in fallen kingdom is the other side of isla matenceros
I wish we'll revisit site B again in the future installments and maybe show the two sections of the island in the same movie which is the redwood section and the tropical section to fully make the difference of ecosystems in Lost World and JP3 makes more sense.
Also if I grew these dinos on Sorna what would you say or think when it came down to ecosystem?
10 Apatosaurs
4 Diplodocus
13 Edmontosaurus
13 Parasaurolophus
13 Maiasaura
10 Triceratops
11 Stegosaurus
9 Pachycephalosaurus
20 Gallimimus
6 Ankylosaurs
6 Tyrannosaurs
18 Raptors
2 Carnotaurs
12 Dilos
40 Compies
And 10 Pteranodons
Carnivore to herbivore ratio is pretty bad
@@pilkers2 how so? What's wrong with it?
@@Memosaurus0917 6 Rexes is pretty bad for an eco system with less than 200 herbivores
@@pilkers2 yeah maybe I could dial it down with the Rexes and raptor populations
@@Memosaurus0917 how would the sauropods survive and reproduce on the island sauropods have lots of kids and leave them but the compys would eat them before they grow up
I love these old videos
Considering the size of some of these hadrosaur nests and the fact that many would hit sexual maturity well before skeletal maturity, it doesn't surprise me that Parasaurolophus had a population explosion.
Thats why also consider it weird all this thing about Sorna ecosystem fking up, imagine now that they even added Corythosaurus, that must be a god amount of preys for carnivores.
It would really be sweet to see a movie about them in this setting! More underground and backstory type deal. This is sooo cool to me idk why something about restricted and sweet dinos is something pretty cool
Anybody keep seeing that weird human cat movie trailer?? It’s creeping me out
(I know this has nothing to do with JPark)
thats why you use adblock...
Sorry klayton, It's nothing personal.
The isla sorna pteronodon small ingen variation is so underated and the site b brachiosaurus
Spino for jw3
May it lose to a male adult T-rex that has a questionable advantage.
@@ninjahombrepalito1721 no
That would get controversial...
@@larryfrye5955 like Stan Lee (Rest In Peace) said. When you have two popular characters similar in power fight each other, you usually want to end it in a draw so that the audience can spend the rest of theur lives debating who would win.
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Here's the thing. Lots of people were mad about T-rex losing. If you make T-rex lose, then the same people will be even more outraged. If you make T-rex win, then spino fans will be angry. Nit to mention the general audience will see it as a cheap attempt at making up for the T-rex losing in JP3. But if the spini had a questionable disadvantage, T-rex fans are happy thinking T-rex won and that disadvantage did not matter, spino fans are happy because they think spino only lost because of that disadvantage, and people are okay with it because it still is consustent with JP3 in that spino is more powerful than T-rex, but it lost because ut gad a disadvantage. And when the T-rex fans can no longer be in denial, they will at least still have the joy of seeing a T-rex beat a spino. Think, maybe spino's health bar is lowered to 80% before fighting T-rex.
Ninja Hombrepalito
I mean I honestly see Rexy or the Doe killing the Spinosaurus. Female Tyrannosaurus are larger and more aggressive than the male Tyrannosaurus and we saw that it had some problems fighting the smallest in the franchise (not counting the infant). We literally saw Rexy toss and throw Indominus around in a malnourished state, if Rexy pulled that off on Spinosaurus then surely it would’ve broken its back and have a fucked up neck.
@@abramrodriguez5919 where did you get that female T-rex are larger and more aggressive?
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Rexy won after almost being killed by an animal that can tank bazookas, because she received help from a velociraptor... ? Honestly, Jurassic World might have been the weakest movie of the franchise. I think most people who do like it, like it because they are fans of the franchise and because it was the first movie to come out of the franchise in over a decade, and it was super hyped. Or they are fans of surrealism. If we want to better the franchise, it is recommendable that we abandon plot induced stupidity. It made no sense that Rexy won, and even less that Blue could even do anything to I-rex.
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So sure, a T-rex could easily defeat...
*The* Spinosaurus...
in a crappy movie, that is. The only way this fight could successfully play out in a movie would be if T-rex wins with a questionable advantage, which is basically the same as Spino losing with a questionable disadvantage. Fans will love the movie, because they will believe what they want to believe. Because that scenario allows it.
I love these videos they give me more info about the franchise to talk to my mates about.
Bud, I think you should have gave us your opinion more on this instead of going by the info they gave us. The illegally cloned dinosaurs causing an ecosystem impact is extremely flawed. How can an Ankylosaurus or Corythosaurus cause any damage so impactful? On a island that's dubbed the biggest of the five? We saw only 1 Ceratosaurus whom probably hunted the juvenile ones. The only exception here is the last illegal cloned dinosaur Spinosaurus since it was the super predator of that island. But it was in hunting down... anything. It was in the rivers, hunting T Rex's and herbivores. Personally, I'm not fan of this stuff completely destroying Sorna with a poor explanation. I think the director just did this to have an excuse for Fallen Kingdom.
Can't agree more. It's also strange that they felt the need to explain the additional JP3 dinos as additions that were cloned after TLW took place where there was really no need since it took place on a completely different part of the island.
They retconned the entire lore to justify the turd of a film that FK was. That's why FK is my least favourite film in the series, I feel they sought to kill off everything that the other films had done in order to get the animals off the islands and get the whole 'dinosaurs eating ppl on the mainland' plotline; think about it, Nublar has been totaled by Mt. Sibo's sudden eruption and Sorna was basically given a dishonourable off-screen death which was barely mentioned in the film and only elaborated on on the DPG's website, which is only meant to further promote FK.
The idea of a single animal wrecking that entire ecosystem is just silly. The Spino's hyper aggressive, reckless behavior would've gotten it killed. There's no way it would walk away unscathed if it ran afoul of the mated T.rex pair, if it walked away at all.
i agree this move was just a huge slap in the face from the producers!
Apparently the writers of FK haven't heard of the prion disease that was killing the animals off already.
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Great reference
10/10
That trailer scared me so much, as a kid
LOL
I don’t think that Spinosaurus actually went after T-Rexes. The whole “urine” scene could just mean that he’s territorial, like how many predators in the wild are today. I mean, the only reason why Spino even encountered the T-Rex was because he just happened to be there. That being said, he struggled with that same T-Rex. He didn’t destroy the T-Rex, he won due to him getting a lucky shot. So if he struggled with that, then imagine him trying to take on Buck and Doe, who were the same size as Spinosaurus.
the trex in jp3 is adult also that is slightly shorter than the buck while the full grown female trexes are bigger than the Male, Rexy is the biggest, doe is the 2nd, but is the 3rd and full grown bull is the 4th, they are all full grown just slightly shorter than the other.
According to someone involved in JP3, i remember hearing it in the making of videos from the DVD, the InGen's Spinosaur does hunt T-Rexes, of course it does not mean he would be lucky everytime he fought one
Black Wolf it was over two feet shorter than Buck, and at least three tons lighter. The Buck is confirmed to be eight tons in weight, and closer to Rexy’s size, whose larger than Spinosaurus.
eagc7 I looked at the special features, and I didn’t hear anything saying that it went after T-Rexes.
@@mjjones2241 it was 3 feet shorter than the buck in length and 1.5 feet shorter than the buck in height, even in the script stated it's a full grown bull trex, it hasn't changed since then.
Like the video, happy valentines, and I hope too see more videos on the mystery’s of Isla sorna
Happy Valentine's Day!! :D!!!
Such a pity we never got to see so many animals before their return to extinction... but that's chaos for ya.
Also. I don't believe the JP3 raptors were bred alongside the tiger tribe.
I think they were illegally bred raptors as well. They do seem to have bird dna, meaning a more "correct" version of a raptor.
if we take what we know of the Spinosaurus being the poster child for the illegal experiments, we know that it was an experiment to attempt feathers in is appearance (as Wu's experiment was apparently for, seeing as that seemed difficult for him to do.)
It makes no sense for him to try it on one animal individually if we are to assume it was the only one. He'd need fast breeding and ultimately fast growing specimens. And what better than raptors? They are smaller and likely grow quickly and would promote better results before the big experiment.
And what do these raptors sport? Quills. Protofeathers.
And if we want to stretch this idea further, look closely at the males patterns. Who do they remind you of?
They sport the trademark "Blue stripes". These raptors are very exotic, very different in their appearance and behavior. The tiger tribe is seen to be aggressive, even to their own kind as seen in the movie, meaning they have no order nor social structure beyond brute force.
The feather tribe however is seen to have a VERY ordered social structure to the point that it's eerily "civilized". They acted on getting back their young, followed through dangerous territory for that end and even LEFT the people responsible alone when they got what they wanted by visual direct order from their matriarch.
These raptors cannot have simply been an aberration so strikingly different from everything of appearance to social order.
They have to have been made and TAUGHT. I think these were actually the proto stage of what would become the events of JW all these years later.
Klayton Fioriti great job on your Channel and videos keep on the great work
Could you make a video about the Walking with Dinosaurs series, just a short one, because it is a big part of any dinosaur-nut kid's childhood, as big as Jurassic Park.
@Delta Gaming i was exactly like you l, but Walking with Dinosaurs never got old
What a great video Klay!
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It's still an ass pull how they say they moved ALL the remaining dinosaurs from Isla Sorna to Nublar. Sorna is 5x bigger and ain't no way Nublar can house that many dinosaurs. Plus y'all really gonna think Spinosaurus was on Nublar? Everything including Rexy would have been dead by then if it was. There would have been a big attraction for that thing.
Idk.. I think Colin screwed up the franchise. Fallen Kingdom was bad too.
Different situations killed off most of Sornas animals..
Rexy was about the same size as the Spino and she held her own against the larger Indominus Rex. Nah, Rexy would of won that, hands down.
Lol thats cute. You do realize that rexy was bigger then the spino right?
@@cassthenerd6023 Rexy was 40ft according to the website. Spino was at 43ft while barely being born in 1999.
@@SoalRaptor Then you wrong af bruh lol 😂
God I love videos like these. Makes it feel like there really is a lost world with dinos out there. If I could see just ONE dinosaur in my life time it would either be a sauropod like Apatosaurus or a stegosaur like Kentrosaurus.
Imagine what Mt. Sibo did to the ecosystem of Nublar. Those poor animals that managed to swim ashore after landing in the water after the eruption, would probably starve to death… :(
Maybe, maybe not. If you look carefully at an aerial view of the island after the volcano exploded, there was some areas of Nublar untouched by the lava flow. I like to think that the ones who landed in the water, somehow swam and made it to the other side of the island and lived.
Man the lack of predators is crazy.
6 tyrannosaurus rex
@@Azriel172 I mean in species. Not numbers.
@@onetrackmind3558Bro
1 massive extremely Agressive Spinosaurus
6 T-Rex(without the Offsprings)
18 Velociraptors (They certainly grew in numbers)
12 Dilophosaurus
2 Carnotaurus
5 Baryonyx
10 Pteranodon
And who knows How many Ceratosaurus Lived on island
@@João-u8b those raptors couldn't have grown in numbers. Animals don't constantly breed like that. And there were two raptors, one aggressive the other more tactical.
The Dilophosaurus weren't shown, same with Baryonyx and Carnotaurus, as Klayton said they're most likely killed off. That only leaves 1 Spinosaurus (one can't breed alone), 6 T-Rexes but they also got a predator that can kill them easily, and then we got velociraptors but they aren't much and the Tigers only hunt in tall grass and aren't coordinated as well as the others.
@@onetrackmind3558 they definetely weren't Killed off
Just because they don't appear doesn't mean they're all Killed
Hey klay, today i have a very different question... if im not mistaken, your old intro featured goro from mortal kombat and your channel banner featured the soulnado, also from mortal kombat... so my question is, are you a fan of mk and if yes, are you hyper for mk11?
I love the MK series, (especially the gore), however I never played it though
I got chills when he said something has survived
There is many dinos I believe are still alive on site B. Compys, microceratus due to there size. The gallis to them being of a smaller size than all the other herbivores. And the Pteranodons as they eat fish. Also I don’t think the spino was on Site B when it went down hill they probably moved it to Nublar and kept it away from everything else due to its aggressive nature.
Great video Klayton Fioriti, I enjoyed today's content too. ☺😃😉👍👍👏👏
The Trespasser Sorna is screwed. *Just So Many Raptors*
*you forgot about compys*
I'd say that's pretty accurate to the films
@@tlnproductions8018 considering the underground system from the novels I agree.
Don't worry. Every once in a while, there's a girl with a heart tattoo that culls some of the raptors after her plane crashes.
For me it was always the raptor who killed Robert that was the big one. From the moment she locked eyes with him trying to save Joffrey… she remembered him, every time he came to the paddock, every time she saw him, the moment she was out of that paddock she was hunting him. I do believe the raptor paddock we saw had eggs in no doubt, but it was the big one laying the eggs, I always liked to think the other two raptors changed from female to male and the big girl led the pack
I might be wrong but that’s just my thoughts
Love your channel as always Klayton 👏
I love how he referenced the tag line for the second movie at the end
Nice one "something has survived".
Who else is here after his most recent upload? I'm scouring for more sorna info now lol this just threw a theory my wife and I came up with a few nights ago right out the window lol can't wait to see what happens next
The Spinosaurus is one of my favorite dinosaurs in the franchise.
I had no idea the Brachiosaurus and Mamenchisaurus lived in different parts of the island, as well as Ankylosaurus, which was referenced in a deleted scene in the LWJP script, where they actually died in a stampede, causing them to go extinct again.
I like how you Are Talking about it as if it actually happened
Since most of the dinosaurs were barely moved I’m pretty sure sorna still has a functioning food chain and habitat so it wouldn’t be too far off for the island to still be the same
The impression you get from the original film is that they did breed Dinos on Nublar, since during the initial tour with Hammond, the three witness a raptor hatching
I've been waiting for a video on this for a long time
You know, I always wondered about this. Thanks man!