London Buses Routemasters-Upton Park Garage 1991
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- Another London bus upload and another closed London bus garage. We see Routemasters on the afternoon run out at Upton Park Garage with RM, RMC & RMLs on routes 15 & 15B. The RMC's ran in to central London as 15B's before changing to X15's and running back on the Beckton Express service. This is another London bus garage that has been demolished as has the the nearby old West Ham football stadium and the whole area redeveloped. If you liked the video please subscribe to my channel, there are lots more transport & quirky vids to upload!
Thank you so much for showing this video. I drove the Routemaster 15s for years and loved every minute of it. Ladbroke Grove to East Ham originally via Bank or Tower. Started with London Transport in 1987, Upton Park Garage. So many amazing memories, brilliant characters in the form of drivers, conductors, inspectors etc., Recently retired so nice to reminice about the best time of my career bus driving. Thanks again.
My pleasure, i'm pleased you like the upload. Living in East London back then there are quite a few other vids with 15s in them, like this one here at the Boleyn th-cam.com/video/RsBH376L5lE/w-d-xo.html
Fantastic nostalgic upload.I saw a couple of old friends there.I drove green RML,s on route,480 out of Northfleet garage,moving on to London Transport in1978 ,working at various garages in South East London .I retired a couple of years ago as an NTC out of Eltham with just over 40 years on the firm. Thanks for the happy memories 😊.
My pleasure......
Hi, This was my local garage in my youth - long gone - and instead of Routemasters we had RTs, RTLs and my favourite RTWs, My Aunt lived in Tudor Road and at the bottom of her back garden was the huge west wall of the garage. Thanks for posting these vids
My pleasure.....I too remember RTs at Upton Park, on the 101s and 147s.....
The ones with a back door and the 2 front head lights drooping make them look sad I love the old route masters when I was little always wanted the front seat so I could watch the driver but im sure we all did when we was young great video 👍
Thank you....the front seat behind the engine was always a top spot!
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus aye that's where I meant
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus Hi, do you have any video footage of Buses leaving or arriving etc at the old original Tram shed / West Ham Garage in Greengate Street Plaistow. I watch all your videos and rarely see any from West Ham, which was one of the bigger garages i worked out of. Brings back loads of memories for me as a driver of the Routemaster and also Leyalnd Titan & LS buses
Another fantastic video Soi! It's such a shame we don't have Rm's& Rml's in service anymore...
JohnMichaelDorien John agree miss them so much.
It's so good AEC, LT and and Park Royal put out such an iconic product that showcased all these defunct beloved companies/ organisations.
Nice to reminisce,great looking buses and thanks to people like yourself we can still enjoy them.
My pleasure....I only filmed these vids for myself, it's only the march of technology that has allowed them to be seen worldwide! ( there are viewers in Australia & New Zealand for instance)
I worked there till the end the people I worked with were brilliant
My dad used to work here. Started in the mid 90s
I lived in the flats opposite this garage and i remember the early morning start ups and the guys moving them to the entrance and just keeping the throttle wide open for a few mins so they could leave them running whilst they went and got the next bus 🙂
Fantastic video, really captures the times. My old garage from 2000 until 2004
It was a nice garage, one of the few that was totally under cover, no outside yard at all.....
Another great video Soi. A shame that this bus garage had to go and also the Boleyn Ground. Not that I'm a West Ham fan (actually Charlton for my pains) but it was always a great atmosphere there which has been totally lost at the Olympic Stadium.
Still, viewing this video with those marvellous RM's makes it a bit better.
Thank you....great sentiments as well, maybe over time the new ground will engender a bit of atmosphere?....
I suppose it will given time but from Hammers supporting friends I know they say the hostility of Upton Park has been forever lost. Let's see.
Back on the topic of RM's on the 15 I'll never forget that fateful morning I was walking down Cannon Street in early 2003 on my way to work and saw not one but two Tridents on the 15, never realising that the opening salvo had been fired to start the slow withdrawal of RM's all over London which steadily grew in place over the next two and a half years or so until they were all gone.
Good times
Thanks for the memories 🏴⚒🇨🇦
My plaesure.....a shame to think this is all demolished now.....
It really is, I was a conductor out of there in the early 60s so it has a lot of personal memories for me . Thanks again Soi 🏴⚒🇨🇦
Absolutely fab! It must have been great living in Redclyffe Road...a bit like Fairfield Road in BW. There' can't be many of these residential street garages left. I remember catching late night 11s [or were they 9s?] from the Royal albert Hall all the way back to D garage tucked away in the housing terraces of London Fields.
Yes, that sounds about right. Funnily enough, the other end of the 9s at Mortlake was also at the end of a residential street. It is hard though in London not to have a bus garage near houses, sometimes they were built up around a garage that was already there....
I didn’t live on redclyffe road but I did live in earshot of it and could see the garage from my bedroom window.
We had the district line on one side and the garage in the other, LT traffic was so frequent, you never noticed it.
Great trip to the past seeing this video though, especially as the buses head off down redclyffe road you can see the derelict William White Court in the distance and when the camera jerks occasionally to the right you can glimpse the southern end of the James Sinclair Point building that was demolished in 1993.
Strange to see as looking on street view it all looks very different now.
Very run down back in 1991 but it’s the childhood memories for me.
Holloway, Willesden to name two.
Another cracking video
Thank you Peter.......hope you are well? Do you actually have any passengers on your bus these days?......
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus Well there were plenty (but not AS many) up until 18th September when I went sick with stress. Not been back since so cannot comment, but due back on 21st November unless I win the lottery before then.
@@BristolRE Don't hold your breath!.....lol You know you love it! How else are you going to make so many vids on how the buses work?.....Get a go-pro type cam and film a run on one of your journeys.....
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus I've got a GoPro, Hero 8 Black, not sure about filming a drive. Might do one day.
Oh my days
I remember this place
All gone now sadly...... buses and building!
My old garage as a conductor in the early 60’s, in those days it was RT’s and RTW’s
It was my local garage, and i remember RTs on the 101s and 147s....
This must of been around the time of the RML refurbishment program because you can tell by the note of the engine that some are AEC/Leyland 0.600 engine or the Iveco or Scania replacements
Yes, the new engine programme had already started. Once LT were happy that the new engines worked ok in the Routemasters they then decided to start the refurbishment programme.
Have you got any Titan footage here by any chance? I noticed one T with the gold band and lettering towards the end ahead of a RM.
No shots at the garage although i have vids uploaded in Green Street and the Boleyn, The gold band Titan i imagine was done for them taking over the X15 from the RMCs a week or two after i filmed this....
Always had clean buses at U, as well as the last RML made 2760 did it get sold off or still owned by LT ?
2760 was sold off to Stagecoach upon privitisation. When they ran their last Routemaster route (the 8s at Bow) in 2004 it was loaned (possibly now formally donated) to the London Bus Museum (Cobham) at Brooklands. It is actually the genuine article as well, before Aldenham Works closed, LT arranged to get all 3 RMLs into works that carried the various bits of 2760 that had been mixed up on the overhaul cycle for years. So the body was re-united with the correct sub frames and given the correct identity, the bus at Upton Park had as RML 2760 was made up of no parts from that actual bus built! Such was the unusual way LT had overhauled its buses at Aldenham. There is a BTF film called Overhaul on TH-cam that explains it to a fashion, although RT buses are shown the process was the same for RMs.....
Whoa..your there Route 15 sure plies the bulk of the valley there..the world's most adjusted route.
Makes me now ask: Do British buses and coaches still have their exhaust vented at asphalt level or mustcha've now got to at least floatin' yer emissions over there just a little, pray tell?
The 15s were a major London bus route at this time (now it's just a shadow of its former self, and runs about a quarter of its old length) and a fair few buses ran in after the rush hour and back out again forv the evening one. And yes, all exhaust's are still at road level....except the hydrogen buses that only throw out water vapour....they are up high!
Really?!! and here I'd come to immediately supposing afterwards that my question be dumb! British cyclists just might be the slowest pokes ever..it'd appear that nobody be lobbying legislators there to properly vent vehicular exhaust, which I find gobsmacking!
My city's w a y more car-centric than what I can make out of British cities.
Hi Soi Buakhao , do you have any video footage of Buses leaving or arriving etc at the old original Tram shed / West Ham Garage in Greengate Street Plaistow. I watch all your videos and rarely see any from West Ham, which was one of the bigger garages i worked out of. Brings back loads of memories for me as a driver of the Routemaster and also Leyalnd Titan & LS buses
Yes, it was a large shed. When i was there in the mid 80s we had a run out of 110 (111 on Sats) and 135 buses on the books! I was a night Generalhand and did the allocation job sometimes, great fun working out which route to put vehicles what with spread-over buses for rota, unfits, rota holds ect. Here are two of my vids with shots of the old garage th-cam.com/video/TBe3TBJLZ3M/w-d-xo.html and th-cam.com/video/RsBH376L5lE/w-d-xo.html....enjoy!
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus Oh wow, I did not know you also worked there... So you knew Big Harry the Foreman - Gary Hollands - John Easson and a few others... I used to drive our Routemaster & Leyland Titan Showbuses to shows and often went out with Harry. It was the best days of my life on the buses...I run a facebook page for Old West Ham Garage . Is it okay to share your video's on the page Soi. I must have seen you at some point in the garage during the night as i always did late turns and was the driver who drove the last Routemaster Bus on Route 69..
@@MsOleblue When i was there the 69s were OPO but the 5 & 25s were crew, RMs on the 25 & crew Titans on the 5, although i tried to allocate RMs on the 5 so the next day i copuld go out later that day and get some on film! The day foreman was Trevor Watkins, and we had two night foreman, Harry Skidmore & Bill Stumpke. I remember waiting by the vac's for the last bus in, 213 on the 25s as i recall.....Yes, please share the vids, a mention of my site as well would be nice, plenty of other bus vids, including a run in at Bow when it was almost all RM, just a few Titans forthe 10s! I knew John Easson, was involved at one time with RM 2116 as i recall. Gary was on the Running Shift if i remember correctly. My Boleyn/West Ham Garage vid shows 1037 passing by on the 5, complete with its Leyland lump.....
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus I joined LT sometime around the late 70's until late 80's and i worked all routes beign a spare driver at the time... So you were used on all routes, which i enjoyed. I started as a crew driver and worked with loads of conductors, some good some bad..RM's were my favourite, but also liked driving the LS nationals and Titans..I remember Trever, but cannot put a face to Harry Skidmore, but i knew the engineering manager Harry Woods, he was a big bloke and full of fun, had some great times with Harry Woods & Gary Hollands and quite a few other engineers at West Ham. Yes Gary was running shift, normally always worked with Harry Woods The page i run is facebook.com/groups/2154013764685579 and you would be welcome to join. My name is Larry Collins. I have watched most of your video's Soi and just brings back so many memories for me, even my son likes watching them, as he was born when i was on the buses and the wife used to bring him out on routes when i was driving...I have to say i think we infected him with the buses and he was manager at Victoria Coach station for 8 years until recently when Stagecoach Megabastards made him redundant...RM1037 was our Routemaster showbus and Titan T613 was the other one dressed up in Centenary colours....
@@MsOleblue I will check out the FB page for sure....Yes i remember T 613, i have it on vid working the 101s when it was at U. I did end up bus driving myself with Blue Triangle which was great fun, lots of Titans, Metros plus a few Routemaster and RT jobs on rail and private hire, so much better than doing the 368s or 474s!
When was it demolished? It was standing, albeit closed, on streetview in July 2015.
In 2016, there is a vid on TH-cam of it half demolished.....
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus Just found it, the blue roof spans still there in the demolition video.
@@ClydebridgeStation That's the one, very sad......i went to school in Canning Town and used Upton Park's 15 & 23s every day....
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Which other RM routes operated out of Upton Park in 70s and 80s? 58 and 101?
In the 1970s they still had RTs...right up until 1976 (101, 147 & 169A). RM & RMLs worked routes 15, 23, 86 (Sats), 101, 147 (weekends until July 71) & 169A. In the 80s it was 5, 15, 15A, 15B, X15, 23, 86 (Sats until 83), & 101 (until Sep 82). The 58s ran out of West Ham and i think for a while Walthamstow had a small allocation on it.
Soi Buakhao thanks. Wouldn’t have expected the 86.
@@djpeekay25 The route was very busy on a Saturday because of Romford Market and they needed extra buses. Upton Park had loads spare due to the amount of RMLs needed for the weekday 15 allocation but not at weekends. So in the 70s, while the route was RT worked off Seven Kings you would see a few Routemasters in the mix on a Saturday! Around 1983/84 time, not long before the 86s went OPO, West Ham had the Saturday extras and worked it with RMs.....
Soi Buakhao good bit of knowledge there, thanks. I can’t remember any RMs in Romford though I must have seen them as I was born 1978. I lived off he Rush Green Road so must have been taken in the 87 or 175 when they will still RMs.
@@djpeekay25 Yes, the 87s had RMs until early 1981 when crew Titans took over (along with route 62), they were actually delivered as crew buses and never had ticket machines or Pay The Driver lettering. Although on Sundays North Street had a part allocation on the 87s so RMs were still to be seen! It was around late 81/early 82 that NS lost its RMs on the 174 & 175s....And of course at Romford Station and Market you would have seen them on the 86 and 193 (which used to run from Barking to Hornchurch via Ilford & Romford until the cuts of Sept 82)......happy days!
Not a fanatic of the dual headlights but at least you know it's most likely to have indigenous power.
I'm surprised there were so many.
They were allocated to route X15 at this time, which was a rush hour route into central London in the morning, and back in the evening. They ran to & from Upton Park as 15B's to get to the garage.
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus I came across one on some sort of charter in the middle of London and was struck by how nimble it was flung around a tight corner. It reminded me of our Mercedes 0305s in that respect.
Take a squizz at this video .
th-cam.com/video/XZ02hr0Jm4Y/w-d-xo.html
Why are some blinds black and white and some green?
Black & white were the normal displays, the X15 had blue on white displays and some route 15 displays had yellow on black..... If any look green, it's a trick of the light!
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus why did the bus at the start have black and white and yellow and black?
Is one for day and one for night time?
@@Gibbo-rf8ib No, blue for Express route X15 and at this time, B&W blinds for normal use. Routes 15 & 15B went via Towrer (of London) or Bank (of England) and had different coloured blind displays to help identify which route a bus was on......
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus the bus at the start rolling through the blind has the same destination in B&W and Yellow and Black like Aldwych East Ham etc
I worked the 101
What do you work on?.....RMs, RTs, Titans.......
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus I worked Rt RM RML all one man busses and SLW in bow .west ham old one .