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Concerning the small vs large form, botanists DO recognise them as separate plants, but they DON'T recognise them as different species or subspecies. They recognise them as within the natural diversity of Monstera deliciosa. The reason why we as collector consider them as different plants come from the way our plant began their journey.
Early collectors took seeds or cuttings from the wild and planted them in private collections, botanic greenhouses or even gardens in the tropics.
Each single plant established itself in a different location. The small and large forms have been massively propagated and became the the two standard clones cultivated in the western collections. The 'Brazilian common form' is neither a small or a large form, it's just a different individual that was took from Mexico and planted in brazilian gardens. The compacta is neither a small or a large form, its another individual, collected and kept mainly in asian private collections. "Burle Marx Flame", the sierrana and the Hawaiian clone are other individuals, took from Mexico and kept in collections.
Since the small form is the most common and the easiest to bloom, most seed grown deliciosa and most weird mutant/variegated deliciosa are small form, because all those seeds are inbreed from a single individual with little genetic variability.
Since large form is still common and large plants bloom on a regular basis, you have also some quirky large forms. And since both grow almost feral in south-east Asia, you can find a lot of indeterminate weird plants popping from asian collections.
If you go to the forests in Mexico and Guatemala where you can find wild Monstera deliciosa, each plant will be wildly different from one another and you will have the same conclusion as the botanist: there is no borsigiana or something, just highly variable individuals, like in humans.
Wanna add that in Canada and the US, the majority of seed grown Monstera are actually large form. Every single plant in the garden centres and hardware stores these days are large form and have been so for the past 3-4 years.
@@miramar1504 You are absolutely correct on that. The ones we have here in North America are large form. The small forms I have yet to come by here in the US. I feel small form is more popular in the UK and mainland Europe.
Just wondering if the burle marx flame has been genetically tested to confirm it is not different enough from a deliciosa to be categorized separately from the normal variation in the species? It’s not confirmed where it was originally collected and the leaf shape and structure are pretty different and really apparent in the juvenile stage. I just got the flame and feeling the two leaves is like night and day compared to the little bit of difference felt between the small and large form. These plants are so fascinating, the more I learn about them the more I love them
@@hotdamn9052 do you remember where you learned this information? It’s always been my understanding that the vast majority of deliciosa in the US are small form, all of my friends who bought them from box stores have ones that pretty accurately match the description of the small form. I’d love to know if I’m mistaken
@@HopefulWriter14most of the common monsteras are just M borsigiana which is a different species that doesn't grow as large.
The only real difference between 2 true M deliciosas is growing conditions. Prettymuch all climbing aroids can change MASSIVELY when they are allowed to climb up a structure. The tiny pothos can get massive leaves that look like they belong on banana trees. Monstera adansonii can grow thier leaves several feet long and look more like Monstera esqualetto than the adansonii you see in the grocery store. And mature Syngoniums don't even look like they're from the same planet when they mature. The larger, wider, more fenestrated M deliciosas are just what you would end up with if you took most any monstera deliciosa and grew it into a more mature stage.
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And now I know when she uploads. Thank you!
As do I!! Fridays are actually my Mondays at work!! and I always start my work week with Kaylee Ellen!! I really like her!! She's cool and upfront!! No bs!! Just a straight up chic!!
The years I studied botany I have always been told that there are no two types of deliciosa just different growing conditions. Of course I am really old. I do personably believe there is a difference with the small and large form. I personally have two different forms and yes they are different
In Krakow botanical garden they have big form and small form monsteras groving near each other. Both plants quite big and old and u can see its different plants. Not just mature and juvenile form of same plant like some ppl saying
They also have Anthurium Crystallinum labeled as Magnificum, so Krakow botanical garden is very reliable
@@4Azr last time I was there names on anthuriums was right, but that's not the point. I am not talking about right id, just about different in growing pattern. That small form monstera clone not growing huge leaves as big form even when its growing in same condition.
can you provide a link to a pics? I googled but can't find any hits
I'm all for large forms. We got 5m high ceilings (painting these walls wasn't fun and falling from that height wasn't either), so we got a lot of space vertically.
Can't wait for my Thai to turn into an actual MONSTERa.
SAME. I can’t wait for me Thais to get absolutely massive.
The mint you showed on the image originated from Aroider Barry Schwartz near Tampa Florida. There are other forms of "mint" as well that have the regular MD shape. His genetics typically are sold as "mint NoID" these days. The one you labeled as Mutation is known as "Lace Prismatic" in SE Asia and Japan. There are also more dwarf forms other than Kunzo's "Compacta" cultivar.
So happy you brought up the fact that Thais are large form! I have a beast of a Thai that I got from a local collector that was moving out of state. He never poled it so it grew for years in more of an outward/wide shape. He had propagated the plant a few times, so this thing literally has FIVE “arms” growing from it. It’s over 7 feet wide, and I literally wouldn’t be able to move it through a door in my house 😂 it’s most recent leaf it put out is 34 inches long. I wish I had a way to show you a photo of this thing!
Isn’t Monstera small form: Borsigiana and large form Deliciosa?
@@hola-rk3lr that seems to be the most agreed upon fact, yep!
😂😂😂 arms is the best analogy!
Wow!! I wanna see. That sounds incredible!
@@hola-rk3lrno. A lot of people use borsigiana for small form and especially with the albo. But even in “small form”, they can grow quite large. Because they do have very small monstera types such as the Peru and the Dubia. I think of the deliciosa family as the big leaf type of monstera. While other types of monsteras are small leaf climbers.
I have 5 or 6 HUGE Thai Cons. One gorgeous leaf has over 120 holes. They take up so much space!!! An entire room!
I have three large form, one with the Thai Constellation mutation, and one borsigiana. They are VERY different. The borsigiana has MUCH longer petioles and fenestrates much sooner. The Large from also has fenestrations that go higher up on the leaf.
TRICK FOR SEEING ANY VARIEGATION - Hold a torch (I use my
Phone torch) on the back of the leaf. So put your phone under the leaf shining on the back and you can see every speck of variegation regardless of the colour 😜
"They had to start charging it rent or whatever" 🤣🤣 my Thai is only 5 leaves and went from hand size leaves to dinner plate size REAL QUICK. I'm planning on charging it rent in a year or so
i almost choked on my noodles when i suddenly heard your "minionized" voice mimicking what people said about small and large form monstera 🤣🤣🤣
I love this video because people from Indonesia 🇮🇩 are posting that they have a brand new “pink princess” called a “galaxy sport” like huh? Stop using description words to make “brand new plants” and taking advantage of people who are new to plants it’s so frustrating
It's goofy to say their aren't variations in genetics that determine sizes within the same species. It's wild people even tried to claim there are not and got mad at you for it. There are standard poodles and mini poodles. They are both poodles. They are just different sizes and we call them different things based on that size difference. Small form and large form plants makes total sense. Being the same plant species does not mean their aren't perceivable, measurable differences.
I don't know if it's a thing on your side of the pond but in the states a lot of people are flocking to big box stores in hope of finding a sport varigated amongst the rest of the normals. Many have found one including myself. What your thoughts on these plants and the hunt for them?
It's actually a thing over here too. I found a variegated Rhaphidophora tetrasperma in a garden center, brought it home and propagated it, and it gave me more variegation.
This how many variegated plants have been found. But since a nursery or a grower have thousands of plants they have more chances to spot them.
I have the compact for you and a few other nice sports, also a few collected y Mick Mittermeier
I bought my very first Thai Constellation. I live it, it has 4 leaves, in a 2 inch pot. He's adorable.
And this whole time I thought my small form Monstera would eventually grow large leaves like the large form Monsteras. 😢
I have officially added a Monstera Compacta to my wish list! Thanks for the video 😃
This is why I watch your videos I am on the brink of buying a variegated Monstera & was unaware there was a large & small form THANK YOU.
Thanks for the tips about the aurea Kaylee. I was struggling to make mine pop and I think it's light. I have noticed the new leaf in natural light looks a bit more yellow (since coming out the tent) but I will give it a boost with grow lights too 🙂
Very excited about the dwarf Thai 😍
Oceana is beautiful.
GREAT. Now I want to buy a Monstera (again) 😭😅😂
My favourite is the Monstera miracle tricolour … 😍
What about monstera cream brulée lol
There is an all aurea monstera version as well. The whole leaf develops to a neon yellowish green. I and like two other people I know have one. I’ve started to document mine since I can’t find much info on it. Hopefully you can!
I love my Thai constellation❤️ I was so intimidated by it when I bought one last year bc I’d wanted one for quite a long time before finally making the dive. I did initially lose one leaf but it has been thriving since then. Definitely a slow grower but it’s my pride and joy!
My Thai constellation was as wide as my couch 😂🤦🏾♀️ definitely not for small apartment living.
“They have to pay it rent” I’m pretty sure I have a juvenile large form deliciosa and I plan to get it to that size haha
Do you guys know what the differences between Large and Small Form are so that I can confirm it?
Hi Kaley. The ❤️ shape of Brazilian common form instantly caught my attention. LoveLoveLove it. Especially when the fenestration is just as deep as the top of the ❤️. 🌱❤️🌱 Thank you. Ohh the tricolor is beautiful too.
I apologize. Hi Kalee ❤️🌱❤️🌱❤️ I did not realize
"Marilyn" look up Kunzo, the lord of variegated Monstera
I love the Brazilian Common Form has been the top of my list for a few years now. Fingers crossed they will come in my price range. So happy to see you showing them. Thanks for the great content!
Loved this video. I would love to have some form of mutant green monstera I just think it’s so fascinating!
looks like monstera lime is the same with aurea large form,,
and yes, in southeast asia here, oceana & ocean mint is legit...
a lot of famous collector have it..
at least oceana is,, but im not sure if oceant mint really different from oceana or it's just an oceana with better variegations...
Thanks for mentioning the deliciosa large form. I’ve been watching videos and Facebook posts laughing when people talk about how big their deliciosa is, when it is in it’s pot on a dining table or in the corner of a room!
My dad brought a monstera deliciosa home from his company many years ago on the back of a low loader because it was too big for the company’s reception area. It lived a totally neglected life in my parents living room. There are two picture whole wall windows so it had plenty of light. It was ‘trimmed’ multiple times, was supported by hooks and wires across the ceiling and eventually filled the whole ceiling of a very large room. It had aerial roots 4 metres long and leaves a metre wide. I wish I had a photo of it, it was awesome.
Here in thailand, I had saw some thaicon compact from too.
Great idea for a pen and notepad for the plants that grab your attention! I’ve been taking screenshots of them when the photo has name superimposed on it. Save in file/album for future reference!
Wow! There were some awesome varieties! Have you heard of Monstera ‘banana split’? It’s kind of like a large form áurea x Thai Constellation?
I think here in Brazil we mostly have the albo large form, because most of our deliciosas are the large form so is only natural to have more white mutation, I’ve seen white variegated with leaves more than 90cm long. And I can say that their variegation is pure white as well, maybe they are white sport of the Brazil form
Is the White Monster kind of like the Florida Ghost in the way the leaves turn green eventually?
Yellow Marilyn has to come from Kunzo or have documentation going back to him as it’s his sport, much like white monster. If it’s not from him it’s just an aurea.
Thank you!!!
monstera compacta is a real thing here in japan. still expensive though😢
We have a standard large form in our entry way with 3 stems/growth points. Luckily our entry way is wide and open because it’s huge!
I’m pro tree in my house. Just ask my giant alocasias regal shield lol
I have a large form and I have the space and am honestly trying to get rid of it lol
Please do a video for Adansonii too!
For the green on green variegation there are two different cultivars. “King green” is large, while “green on green” is small form. ATLEAST in my experience that’s how I’ve seen it!
I've seen a monstera orange in one of onlyplants (Sean) videos, about a month ago, I don't know it's a sport or just some mutation or other things, but looks interesting.
What's the deal with marmorata / aurea? Is that large form? Or should it really be lime?
I have do study but this is more important 🤷🏽♂️
Kept waiting for the crème brûlée
Me and my friend went variegation hunting (where we just go to different stores and see if we can find some variegated monstera's) but we saw a few here and there where the leaves, when the plants were young, were more elongated rather than heart shaped. More like an adansonii without fenestration and much bigger. Is this anything you have seen/heard of before?
I love your helpful info..much appreciated 🙏🏾🙂
I’m pretty sure BenjiPlant also has the monstera Brazil!
Thank you so much for this i was beginning to get confused haha
Loved this video! Love all the different types, pretty positive my aurea I found is large form which she awesome! Light definitely is crucial for the aureas!
I’m obsessed with the variety Kunzo has with lots of holes and fenestrations and the Brazil form and both are just green!
I lucked out & got a large form monstera at our local nursery by fluke. 2 wks later I stopped in, and the price was crazy HIGH compared to what I paid. Someone had to of informed em of what they had
I thought I bought a small (live in 900 square foot apartment) and 4 months later it's a tree with 24" leaves w/ deep fenestrations....
I might start offering cuttings, lol
Yes, yes, I want the Alien Superstar Monstera aka Mutation.
That was very informative! And absolutely awesome to see how much effort you put into those videos!
I have a few subscriptions on TH-cam but you're the only one with notification. :)
So glad you featured the monstera compacta! I have three green ones and they are amazing. Just ordered a Thai compacta but hasn’t arrived yet. Pictures show very similar growth patterns. Super excited
Where are you located pls?
Keep us updated when the compacta Thai arrives and if you're happy with the shipping, maybe you could even drop the name of the seller here then :)
Great video well put together 👍
have you seen monstera deliciosa lace prismatic unknown morph? Really cool looking
I was gifted an enormous large form, with multiple flowers. It was really annoying cause it had 6 vines going in multiple directions and I screwed it up by not giving it enough light and all the flowers died, it's significantly downsised but now it's outside for summer and I'm hoping it recovers.
Thank you for the amazing video.
I hope you discuss about M.deliciosa var sierrana to complete the big picture of M.deliciosa.
My thai is hugee her leave is 24 inches long kaylee can u do a video on monstera Adonsonii archipielago please i cant find nothing about this plant
OMG DID U SEE MY COMMENT ASKING FOR THIS?!?!?!
I have a big mama large form in my sun room, and I have two Thai cons. The Thais are babies but when they grow I'm gonna put them on either side of my bed. I have a lot of room for them ❤
Loved this video!!!! very helpful 💚💚💚
Why is she using the terms Small form and large form instead of differentiating them as a Deliciosa and Borsigiana as she did in previous vidoes and from videos I've seen from Botanist? Has the opinion and scientific community changed the opinion oaths recently?
My Thai got so big I sold it for $1200 😂😂 it was 5ft across and I live in a tiny apartment.
I have a baby large form and small form and the large form after 3 leaves it’s already a foot and 1/2 big and has holes in 2 sections with new leaves popping out the small form has 7 leaves abt 8 inch leaves are getting bigger but really slow at it and no holes besides the fenestrations
The 2nd Albo you showed is a large form! The main difference between small and large form is the inner fenestrations holes! Small forms (Borsigiana) only get the slit fenestrations and the large forms get both the slits and the inner fenestration holes
Thanks for the info. The Green on Green, Compacta an Brizilian are my favs 😍💚💚
I just managed to score a large form at the store for 10€ - a whole plant. Pretty happy about that.
I plan to grow my regular large form and my thai until my apartment cannot take it no more.
Would a tour of your mom’s plants ever be possible?
I just brought a white tiger monstera albo on Android market is that a thing
I got a Thai constellation a few months ago and am looking forward to a tree in my living room.
My brand new deliciosa is already 81cm!
We NEEDED this video because I only recently learned that I don’t have a “large form” Monstera! I thought they were all the same and I was like why aren’t my leaves getting gigantic it’s been like over 3 years!? Lol
Is the monstera deliciosa Oceana a real sport or variety?
I don’t know if you know about Tyler Thrasher but he has a few that are CRAZY unique. He’s created a handful of plants and his monsteras are beautiful. Not much content on TH-cam but a lot on insta.
Sooo I live in a 800sq foot apartment… and I have a cutsie little Thai. It does have large large cream sectoral variegation on every leaf, (5) and I definitely didn’t consider just how big it would get. 😅 I knew they get big big but between my albo and Thai I’m gonna need a house SOON 😂❤
Great video again, Kaylee 😊 I've read in different fb groups about monstera creme brulee and monstera white tiger and I wanted to know how you (and everyone else) think about both of these. I thought it to be just a fancy name for more variegated species?
I'm wondering too, what people think about the "Thai constellation Crème Brûlée". For me ist's just a weird name, to sell it for a lot more money. 😅
They now have the Monstera Uno!! 🥰
The Brazilian common form seems to be rather an intermediate than an actual large or small form. Similar to the NoID mint
I grow both the large and small forms of Brazilian M.deliciosa.
The small one tends to climb like M.borsigiana, and the large form tends to behave like the regular large form of M.deliciosa.
@@yusufauliarahman1 Do you have pictures of your plants?
@@jhndr0nia Yes, I do. But I don't have social media.
In Indonesia, I grow them all outside almost carefree. .
@@yusufauliarahman1 Thank you but I doubt that it's indeed a Brazilian Common Form then
Compacta is on my wish list
Hi, is there defference between Monstera Yellow Splash and Mostera Aurea Marmolata, Also there is monstera orange)
😮 your beautiful 😻
Can you do more videos about monstera mints. Especially Mexican mints, matcha mint. Thanks
Love the compacta!
Good info to have, thanks girl! 🥰
6:55 that picture definitely isn't a large form. Thats 99,99% a mature (not even fully mature) small form albo.
You hair color looks F’ing amazing . Also matches the background well!
Thank you Kaylee Ellen, I love that you care so much to make these videos and disclaimers because you don't want people be ripped off. ❤
How would you buy a large form Monstera Deliciosa without just paying more and ending up with a more mature small form?
It’s always good to see you 🫂💚 Always!
Thanks for the longer video!
I do wish you had a common object in the Pic to be able to judge the size of the plants, leaves etc.
Brazilian Common Form is small form, we have a large and mature in our local botanic garden.
I regards to monstera Thai Constellation there is an aurea version too. There is one person that is selling seedlings of those