i'm indonesian and this game is sooooooooo crazy, funny, epic n yet so fun to watch.. it's even funnier if you understand what they wrote in the chat.. that trash talk is soooo damn hilarious.. LMAO >_< awesome commentary lumi.. i enjoyed it so much.. thanks for uploading it btw, and hope you'll upload more epic dota 1 game in near future.. regards, biggest fan of @LuminousInverse from indonesia..
34:50 and onward. notice how tiny/wisp waited in the fog behind the creep wave to see if anyone was going to come farm it, then they would just pop out and gank. because of this, qop can't see tiny/wisp hiding in the creepwave, so she blinked out thinking they left the lane. but saw that they were still there cause they moved up to farm. qop was probably pinging his team to come bottom and gank, but the sent creepwave was moving up and would've spotted her, so she walked into the river.
For remakes. You save at key points, say after a major team fight/key gank/tower/rax and if someone drops later on, you can remake the game from that save point ;)
But if you're damaged, mek will heal your friend twice. So that's a big bonus. another example is that overcharge allow your headress to have 2x regen with the tethered unit, etc.
Incase someone disconnects, they can just use the save so the player who disconnected can join again. They don't have the auto-rejoin feature like in Dota 2.
Another intricacy with wisp is that you can't heal your tethered allies if you're at full health/mana. That is why wisp players get at least a level in overcharge (if they go for max tether build) so that allies can get your item hp/mana regen.
Finally a Lumi's commentary that I can understand and enjoy!!! I had almost stopped watching your commenteries cuz u weren't doing on DotA 1 much... I can't understand DotA 2 cuz I haven't played it yet. D: Nevertheless its good to hear u again Lumi.. ^_^
hey lumi, whatever happend to the navi and darer games that were played so long ago via PL2, you uplaoded so many games after except for that one,what happend to it?
This is not ordinary for me. -___- We use guardian wisp in our pro game league here in PH. Am the only on in our team who uses that hero. We use him as semi carry. Sometimes just ganker, but often as semi carry.
in my opinion. i doubt there will ever be a game like this again soon, at least with wisp. because more people will probably try wisp after this game and we'll see more stable lineups and strategies with wisp, not this cheesy stuff. and then we'll see teams learn how to counter wisp and this cheesy kind of strategy. first game of its kind, and not likely to be done again. I'm SO glad i saw this, and even more glad it was casted by you Lumi
Honestly, scourge had couple of chance to take a couple more rax but they chose not to which cost them the game, but think from their side who will really espect the back door to be this powerful anyway. By the way furion with diffusal blade necro book plus beast master with necro book, BoT can be a solution to all this I think, back door competition:)
than u can just urn or mech ur friend no harm done... I guess picking up overcharge is mostly to boost up your carry autohits (and survivability)... since carries are mostly late game than overcharge is picked up last... I guess lvl 4 spirits for ganks are more useful... but thats just me :P
Well backdoor is legal in tournaments. its usually not allowed to do in a formal games..but if i would put my opinion i would say that even at tournaments it shouldnt be allowed.
i recommend you cast one of those PIS high level pub, really good for newbie who wants to learn fast. plus you're chinese, shouldn't be a problem for you to understand what he's trying to say. besides i only watch dota 1 replay since i have to wait for-god-knows when dota 2 will be officially release.
Its just back to back "save please".. and then when one team asked for save, and then got wiped 5seconds later.. the other team goes "that's right, save please" then back to back wipe out with "nice??"(referencing to them being wipeout the last time) Not really trash talk though, both teams seems friendly enough
Nice video!! You're agreat caster man! Can I ask you something?? Could you do a Funn1k (some people call him the best Wisp player) on Empire (or maybe Na'vi), and please focusing on him more than another, since there's no video that do that. Keep on!
And this is why you need to autoban Wisp if you didn't pick him. TBH, I'm surprised it took Sent that long to win the game. With proper warding it could have been over a while ago.
Miss these days. With Lumi, Doc, Ian, Hobbes, Jack, all casting DotA.
i'm indonesian and this game is sooooooooo crazy, funny, epic n yet so fun to watch..
it's even funnier if you understand what they wrote in the chat..
that trash talk is soooo damn hilarious.. LMAO >_<
awesome commentary lumi.. i enjoyed it so much..
thanks for uploading it btw, and hope you'll upload more epic dota 1 game in near future..
regards, biggest fan of @LuminousInverse from indonesia..
34:50 and onward. notice how tiny/wisp waited in the fog behind the creep wave to see if anyone was going to come farm it, then they would just pop out and gank. because of this, qop can't see tiny/wisp hiding in the creepwave, so she blinked out thinking they left the lane. but saw that they were still there cause they moved up to farm. qop was probably pinging his team to come bottom and gank, but the sent creepwave was moving up and would've spotted her, so she walked into the river.
For remakes. You save at key points, say after a major team fight/key gank/tower/rax and if someone drops later on, you can remake the game from that save point ;)
best game ive seen in terms of creativity and pure awesomeness
I came to youtube and saw na'vi s game and lumi's dota1 commentary and i've chosen to watch it.
But if you're damaged, mek will heal your friend twice. So that's a big bonus. another example is that overcharge allow your headress to have 2x regen with the tethered unit, etc.
Incase someone disconnects, they can just use the save so the player who disconnected can join again.
They don't have the auto-rejoin feature like in Dota 2.
Another intricacy with wisp is that you can't heal your tethered allies if you're at full health/mana. That is why wisp players get at least a level in overcharge (if they go for max tether build) so that allies can get your item hp/mana regen.
You are right about how + and % attack speed are the exact same thing. Also remember 1 agility = 1 attack speed too.
And max attack speed is 400
Guardian wisp already appeared in Lumi's commentary before. It was a show match with loda as wisp and his main carry pajkatt as naix.
Finally a Lumi's commentary that I can understand and enjoy!!!
I had almost stopped watching your commenteries cuz u weren't doing on DotA 1 much... I can't understand DotA 2 cuz I haven't played it yet. D: Nevertheless its good to hear u again Lumi.. ^_^
i'm indonesian and i've watched your cast for some time.... and when i saw this i was like ... whatever. lets watch it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Never get bored to watch our good old day game 🥲
finally dota 1 cast! love you, lumi!
6:16 "Those blue balls in queen of pain's face."
ROFL!
OMG what a game! nice one lumi, I hope your gona do more of this type of commentaries.
Guardian wisp first entrance in a Luminous Commentary leaving us speechless, dayum.
hey lumi, whatever happend to the navi and darer games that were played so long ago via PL2, you uplaoded so many games after except for that one,what happend to it?
Am I actually seeing right? Luminous casting a DotA 1 game? THANK YOU!
gogo indo dota players, gG. hebat-hebat kamu semua ini.
loves from msia! ^^
Man, that back door strat was OP!
@luminousinverse
it's heaven halberd on lycan, not abyssal blade...
This is not ordinary for me. -___-
We use guardian wisp in our pro game league here in PH.
Am the only on in our team who uses that hero.
We use him as semi carry. Sometimes just ganker, but often as semi carry.
@LuminousInverse dws mechanics portion on attack speed ? =D not sure if you did that already
this may be the beginning of a new strategy
SIMULTANEOUS BACK-DOOR
sure dude.. just tell me which part do you want me to translate..
It was a nebu1a commentary IIRC.
thumbs up if you watched this cast when lumi streamed it =D
i am too lazy to watch the whole video, but could someone tell me why is backdoor allowed?
Yo dawg, could you translate what they said, that would be dope. I think Dota trash talking is one of my favorite things in life.
AWESOME. . . really missed dota 1
PLZ KEEP UP WITH THE DOTA 1 COMMENTARIES !!! TY
Early push strat for counter? I mean it would take a while for wisp to become that powerful for bdooring, and tiny as well.
in my opinion. i doubt there will ever be a game like this again soon, at least with wisp. because more people will probably try wisp after this game and we'll see more stable lineups and strategies with wisp, not this cheesy stuff. and then we'll see teams learn how to counter wisp and this cheesy kind of strategy. first game of its kind, and not likely to be done again. I'm SO glad i saw this, and even more glad it was casted by you Lumi
Thanks Lumi! Made my night
56:51 I don't care about the throne , it's lumi's reaction that made this game.
is not only the money, but the time they spend walking to get out of their base again. They simple dont have the movility to keep up
why do they save in the middle of a game? explain?
Slow was removed wasnt it?
MaleDICK and BLUEBALLS.. that make my day lumi =)
Honestly, scourge had couple of chance to take a couple more rax but they chose not to which cost them the game, but think from their side who will really espect the back door to be this powerful anyway. By the way furion with diffusal blade necro book plus beast master with necro book, BoT can be a solution to all this I think, back door competition:)
than u can just urn or mech ur friend no harm done... I guess picking up overcharge is mostly to boost up your carry autohits (and survivability)... since carries are mostly late game than overcharge is picked up last... I guess lvl 4 spirits for ganks are more useful... but thats just me :P
can i get other wisp pro games links?
another great commentary lol! GJ Lumi
The most unprecident strategy yet the craziest one:D
Io's Spirit no longer slow enemy hero when explode.
Because you can glyph and you can tp to save it. Its also very risky, thus rewarding.
I believe wisp's blue balls don't slow anymore.. I haven't played dota 1 for a while and haven't seen wisp in ages.. so I'm not quite sure..
Well backdoor is legal in tournaments.
its usually not allowed to do in a formal games..but if i would put my opinion i would say that even at tournaments it shouldnt be allowed.
Very nice game. Loved the commentary.
i recommend you cast one of those PIS high level pub, really good for newbie who wants to learn fast. plus you're chinese, shouldn't be a problem for you to understand what he's trying to say. besides i only watch dota 1 replay since i have to wait for-god-knows when dota 2 will be officially release.
22:29 Lumi calls Sentinal Radiant
Nah they should keep that combo. Wisp be a more common ban or people will pick carefully around him. We might even see a backdoor meta :D
Finally another Pro Dota 1 commentary :) ty Luminous
i was so happy every time wip tiny do bd hahaha
Its just back to back "save please".. and then when one team asked for save, and then got wiped 5seconds later.. the other team goes "that's right, save please"
then back to back wipe out with "nice??"(referencing to them being wipeout the last time)
Not really trash talk though, both teams seems friendly enough
welcome to Indonesian DoTA..
damn..i love My country..
so.. how was your lottery ticket?
being a proud Indonesian .. directly pressed like
^o^
more pubbing w/Lumi would be awesome ~
This video just great, lmao. seriously, it was like what the hell did i just watch...
back door is legal??
I dont understand the language in chat but I can say that the price you pay for backdoor is that the opponents wont say GG!!!
Man.... I just casted this...
do you understand the chat?
one word for this game...
DAYYUUMM
it's legal if there is no rule applied to the game. Some leagues there are rules mounted on the game.
in indonesia
asik = fun
WAKWAKWAWK = just like hahahaha
so this guys are having so much fun! :D
which one is indonesian?
good awareness from tiny/wisp and qop!
0 dislikes...
First time i've ever seen this on youtube =D.
52:58 Thor's Hammer
yep, it is called overcharge *close enough*
Oh, sorry, i thought Loda was the wisp player, my bad. I remember pajkatt as naix though.
Nice video!! You're agreat caster man! Can I ask you something?? Could you do a Funn1k (some people call him the best Wisp player) on Empire (or maybe Na'vi), and please focusing on him more than another, since there's no video that do that.
Keep on!
i want to like this video more than once-.-
"as we see those blue balls on queen of pain's face.. yeah, you know what i'm talking about"
lol
And this is why you need to autoban Wisp if you didn't pick him. TBH, I'm surprised it took Sent that long to win the game. With proper warding it could have been over a while ago.
wow nice battle...@,@''
but backdoor is illegal?
sven has a big sword and he's sticking up to witch doctor.XD!
omg LOL this needs to be in your epic games playlist
Yeah lumi. You tell those noobs, backdoor isn't fucking "illegal".
that was one of the best games i've ever seen
@38:35 "gimme the overdrive! uh uh uh uh uh!" LOLLLLL kinda sound wrong xD
icefrog make notes for ur backdoor
maybe you remembered Na'Vi's chen pudge combo. :))
hello from Indonesia!
This is an epic game! More Please :P
MASI AD YG IDUP THN 2021?
tiny-wisp combo new metagame!
pake wisp, teleport kemana - mana ...
saat di medan perang, bawanya Roshan. biar lebih greget...
The awkward moment when Lumi was counting 135 x 4. BUT ! thats what he do :)
You should cast dota 1 with bbalin!
well as cheap as this strat may be.. at least its good to see different heroes and different strats
This is still the best game.
Hahaha first time I saw this strategies what a really nice game plan
gotta try this strat in dota 2!
True enough. :))
stacked wisp with heart and hex + overcharge is like fountain for tethered unit lol. @_@
Does uG mean ugly Geniuses?
sven have a big sword and he's sticking right into witch doctor!! ftw LOL