Firearms of the Fur Trade Part 1

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  • Tim Tanner, Moki Hipol, Duane Richardson and other members of the American Mountain Men give a public demo at the Museum of the Mountain Man in Pinedale, Wyoming. July 2018. Filmed by Denny R. Leonard.

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  • @lonewalker33
    @lonewalker33 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This lecture was done by the American Mountain Man organization. A serious group dedicated to reliving the fur trade of the 1820 and 30s. I know, I'm a member.

  • @williamcollins4082
    @williamcollins4082 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A really good effort !!!

  • @joelerk6298
    @joelerk6298 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    My great great great great great grandfather was a german gun smith and came the states (colonies)in 1735

    • @larryreese6146
      @larryreese6146 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What was his name?

    • @joelerk6298
      @joelerk6298 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@larryreese6146 Wilhelm Wolff

    • @larryreese6146
      @larryreese6146 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joelerk6298 was he in Pennsylvania or in some other state? Not familiar with that name. Have you ever seen any examples of his work?

    • @joelerk6298
      @joelerk6298 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@larryreese6146 I'm not sure, ill research it again. All I know is he came to the new land because he was a protestant. His family ended up in Tennessee.

    • @larryreese6146
      @larryreese6146 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@joelerk6298 pretty neat, Joel. I've had an interest in those old guns for a long time and have read a lot about the early makers. Researchers talk about 'schools" of gunsmithing. Seems gunsmiths who lived in a certain area or were trained by one Smith or another used specific hardware, stock patterns etc. Etc. Pretty interesting. I'd like to know what you find out. Melchor Fordney was a well known maker of the early 1800s and his rifles are sought after by collectors and his style copied by modern makers. Interesting thing is that he came to a sad end, murdered by a madman with an axe

  • @Quarter324
    @Quarter324 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Your videos have been indispensable for my research, thank you!

  • @mrdinme.4768
    @mrdinme.4768 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    A nice job presenting and explaining. Yeah, i know a bit about the firearms, but the info along with them brings a perspective that was interesting, thanks Godspeed

  • @jamesholt6032
    @jamesholt6032 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If a goose walks up...yur ready for him..!
    Now thats funny

  • @rickgaston7118
    @rickgaston7118 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Re-check about the Harpers Ferry guns . The new rifle was not ready for them to use .

    • @mhmaggelet2288
      @mhmaggelet2288 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The historical timeline of Capt. Lewis's letters, ordnance correspondance, the expedition's journals, and Biddle's 1814 edition of the journals show beyond a reasonable doubt that the "Short rifle" was used on the expediton (mentioned several times by different expedition journalists). The "short rifle" was what was later called the Model 1803, and they were not fabricated from the poor condition contract long rifles then in stores (there was no "Model 1792 Contract Long Rifle", they were common rifles made by over a dozen different contractors with specifics for the length, barrel, and caliber). The Budginas rifle is obviously not an expedition artifact, since the stock is from the Type II production era (1814) and the "1803" dated lock does not fit the large lock mortise, and the promoters (i.e. sellers) consistently have failed to show the sideplate of this rifle (personal correspondance).

  • @williamcollins4082
    @williamcollins4082 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A scrawny Canadian Gooes with a
    punkin ball ???
    And your eating
    feathers !!!

  • @jamesfarmer6004
    @jamesfarmer6004 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Klamath Falls Herald and News: Thursday, April 29th, 2010/Letters To The Editor. Updated on June 14th, 2012.
    A piece of history wasn’t part of the photo display
    The Monday Herald and News posted online the coverage of the “Mount Mazama Mountain Men re-enactment from the 1840s.” Unfortunately, I missed attending it. Be that as it may, the posted online photos didn’t depict the most commonly used firearm during this era: The Northwest Flintlock Trade Gun. Known also as Mackinaw Gun, Hudson’s Bay Fuke, fusee, Northwest Gun, London Musket, or simply Indian Musket this flintlock smooth-bore weapon was in common use in North America for 150 years. For too long the historic Northwest Flintlock Trade Gun has been ignored for the role in played in the development of the early America and Canada. In fact, contrary to popular myth, this primitive smoothbore flintlock fusil was the most commonly owned, used and carried firearms of not only native Americans, but fur trappers, French Canadian settlers, and mountain men. Appearing about 1750, these smoothbore trade guns were commonly .58 Caliber (24 gauge) and .62 caliber (20 gauge).
    They were versatile as a foraging survival gun while loading both solid round ball for deer, elk, and bear, or smaller lead shot for small game, including birds and waterfowl. Even today, a skilled woodsman could still survive and forage off the land while utilizing a Northwest Flintlock Trade Gun in replica form. North Star West at www.northstarwest.com is a firm specializing in historical reproductions of early black powder muzzle loaders. In fact, I recall a former exhibit at the Klamath County Museum depicting the early fur trade era of our region. Pieces of an original Northwest Flintlock Trade Gun were displayed inside the glass. This fusil was discovered along the Sprague River in 1949.

    The original serpentine side plate, flintlock cock, frizzen, iron barrel, buttplate, nails, screws, etc. remained as a history lesson for future generations of our bygone frontier past.
    James A. Farmer, Ashland Effective October 2016: Once again a resident of Klamath County, Oregon Long Live The State of Jefferson!
    Be sure to read the article in the November/December 2022 issue of The Backwoodsman (Magazine) on the Northwest Flintlock Trade Gun. Titled, "If You Could Only Have One Gun" by David Langerman, pages 68, 69

  • @BIG-DIPPER-56
    @BIG-DIPPER-56 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very Nice - Thanks 👍

  • @davidphelan6861
    @davidphelan6861 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Where is part two?

  • @tylermorgan9701
    @tylermorgan9701 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could a mountain man used a Jager rifle

  • @havanadaurcy1321
    @havanadaurcy1321 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Question: Did Native American tribes have something similar to the Maori musket wars?

  • @baileytyler3814
    @baileytyler3814 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    They still call us Indians down there??? Damn

  • @hemidart7
    @hemidart7 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    1812 which I won't get into that, Lol.....when Canada before named Canada burnt your house down! right Hahahaha

    • @tamacat920
      @tamacat920 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      those were the newly arrived British troops under Robert Ross. none of the Canadian forces were there to burn down Washington.

    • @hemidart7
      @hemidart7 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tamacat920 We weren't called Canada yet.... but whatever helps you sleep at knight

    • @tamacat920
      @tamacat920 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@hemidart7 Uh, yes it was called Canada. Lower and Upper Canada if you want to be specific. Study your own history, bruv.

    • @Yk_roro
      @Yk_roro 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mostly native Americans but the British did a little bit