Thanks mate,dude,sr, to showing the Pidgins and Creoles Englishes idioms since the main to creoles englishes on Asia, Africa, America, Europe and Oceania. 🍻🤝🍹🍹🍨🤙 Public service full of integrity. Satisfaction to heard an see your exposition about this theme.
Great and helpful summary of the different positions. There is some wiggliness with the use of the terms "pidgin" and "creole" in the literature that is maybe getting in the way a bit. Some are keen to adopt labels that have persisted in locales like calling what's spoken in Hawai'i "pidgin," but for Bickerton (1981), for example, that variety represents the quintessential example of a pidgin acquiring native speakers and is therefore a creole. So although people often refer to Hawaiian Pidgin, in most (though not all) linguistics literature calls the same variety Hawai'i Creole English. Likewise in West Africa the fact that there is Nigerian Pidgin and Sierra Leone Krio has to do with sociohistorical facts about people called Creoles in Sierra Leone but not Nigeria. Naija and Krio are different but not because Naija is not fully formed. I believe there are many people who speak it natively and also as a primary language although, of course, multilingualism is the usual state of things. Emeka Onwuegbuzia could better speak to that. One wee addition: Sierra Leone Krio is tonal! --just like most of the other languages spoken in Sierra Leone (you can find a hearty list of citations on that in Yillah, M. Sorie and Chris Corcoran. 2007. Krio (Creole English). In Comparative Creole syntax: Parallel outlines of eighteen Creole grammars. Westminster Creolistics Series 7, eds. John Holm and Peter L Patrick, 175-98. London: Battlebridge Publications.
I am not sure why simpler grammar should be seen as something bad (and thus hurtful). I think of english as being simpler than my language and it does not stop her from being worldwide used and nobody thinks that it is somehow crippled because it is simpler than some other languages, right?
Thanks mate,dude,sr, to showing the Pidgins and Creoles Englishes idioms since the main to creoles englishes on Asia, Africa, America, Europe and Oceania.
🍻🤝🍹🍹🍨🤙
Public service full of integrity.
Satisfaction to heard an see your exposition about this theme.
I love listening to your lectures while I work. Thanks for the upload :D
Pidgin English speaker here ✋cameroon pidgin
Thanks for watching, Edith!
I don't find a problem in the title "The world's simplest grammars are creole grammars". Simple does not mean limited or incomplete.
Amazing, MY PhD is on Nigerian Pidgin (Naija). 😊😊😊
this is so interesting but still complex to me and I still did not get the meaning of creole. It's really difficult
Interesting with the pidgin English phonetics. Interesting video overall, very insightful
Great and helpful summary of the different positions. There is some wiggliness with the use of the terms "pidgin" and "creole" in the literature that is maybe getting in the way a bit. Some are keen to adopt labels that have persisted in locales like calling what's spoken in Hawai'i "pidgin," but for Bickerton (1981), for example, that variety represents the quintessential example of a pidgin acquiring native speakers and is therefore a creole. So although people often refer to Hawaiian Pidgin, in most (though not all) linguistics literature calls the same variety Hawai'i Creole English. Likewise in West Africa the fact that there is Nigerian Pidgin and Sierra Leone Krio has to do with sociohistorical facts about people called Creoles in Sierra Leone but not Nigeria. Naija and Krio are different but not because Naija is not fully formed. I believe there are many people who speak it natively and also as a primary language although, of course, multilingualism is the usual state of things. Emeka Onwuegbuzia could better speak to that.
One wee addition: Sierra Leone Krio is tonal! --just like most of the other languages spoken in Sierra Leone (you can find a hearty list of citations on that in Yillah, M. Sorie and Chris Corcoran. 2007. Krio (Creole English). In Comparative Creole syntax: Parallel outlines of eighteen Creole grammars. Westminster Creolistics Series 7, eds. John Holm and Peter L Patrick, 175-98. London: Battlebridge Publications.
Thanks a lot, Chris!
I am not sure why simpler grammar should be seen as something bad (and thus hurtful). I think of english as being simpler than my language and it does not stop her from being worldwide used and nobody thinks that it is somehow crippled because it is simpler than some other languages, right?
Oh, Boy! I got this topic for my presentation task. It sounds complicated, any suggestion ?
Nigerian pidgin is actually a creole now
Thanks a lot for the wonderful teaching. Too bad i discovered late. But it's ever late with Education
Could you recommend the books that you have read related to this video and all things linguistics?
You must've read David Crystal's books.
David Crystal is a wonderful writer. I can also really recommend Edgar Schneider's book "English around the world".
I was brought here by one of our major courses 😁♥️
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@@reymondanthonypenaflor4712 Hilo, Reymond I'm a Nigerian Pidgin spikir.
Pidgin English Speaker here.. Solomon Islands Pidgin English.... Mi wanfala pidgin english speaker tu
Martin: you probably figured this one out yourself
Me: *completely lost in Nigerian pidgin* Uhm, yeah, no.
Melanesian Pidgin consist of= Malay, Portuguese,German And English Of course😒🙄