Rory, you did a great job with your commentary on this match. I really enjoyed your analysis and I think I picked up a few things that will definitely help me out on the courts!
There is a really good book called "How Doctors Think" by Jerome Groopman, MD in which a key piece of advice for physicians is to keep your mind open as to the diagnosis until you have gathered all the data. When people lock on to a particular view point too early it biases their thinking. The backwards hat thing influenced your thinking. The hat guy actually played a less aggressive style. I challenge you to re-review this with pencil and paper in hand and Pick-apart who had more unforced errors in this game. Note that hat guy had a strong dink game and did not try to speed up balls that were unattackable, and the consistent deep returns. I especially liked how he diagnosed the Ernie that D. was about to get on him and reacted instantly with a nice lob. This was a fun game to watch and these are all really good players. Better than me. I notice that Dawnita sometimes rushes the nvz and gets caught and has to hit a shot before she gets her feet set. Thank you for doing these pick-aparts I love them!
I always decide how to play based on how people on the other side of the net are dressed... wtf. Maybe I should sit in the parking lot and see what they are driving? I feel like I just moved up a level
Shame doctors don't read that book then! Allopathic doctors have no clue what the root cause of anything is - they look symptoms up and do what the book tells them. If they truly had open minds then they'd be looking at the work of Dr Hamer, German New Medicine - and actually finding that nearly all symptoms are signs of healing not disease and talking to the people who go to them for help and actually help them. Allopathic medicine, beyond setting a fracture and some other ED work, is based on stories, myths and lies and makes things worse not better. As for pickleball - some of us don't have the cash for fancy gear - we enjoy life too much to work more hours just to buy pretty stuff.
@@jimb6683 All he’s saying is a first impression can give you information. When playing 2 unfamiliar opponents look at who you may return the ball to. Keep doing it until that player proves they can handle what you send their way. Maybe your first impression was wrong but it’s a better strategy than just flipping a coin. No?
Thanks to you ! I love watching your videos, so I can improve myself , I live in small town near Vail resort , I grew up playing badminton in Indonesia moved to the US 44 yrs ago and been playing tennis instead. Retired 6 yrs ago and started playing PB 2 yrs ago, I’m a RecPlayer and play all level and love to win the game!
Fun, and competitive, game to watch. Like you, Rory, I kept wanting the ladies to hit their returns to Orange as his back court game wasn't nearly as good as his soft game at the NVZ. (His dinking was way better than you thought it would be, huh?) The ladies' mesh really well as a team. I noticed they were having a lot of fun, too. It *is* a game, after all.
Great game! The women did very well on offense and keeping the guys back, although they did get overpowered a few times. Just goes to show the power game can only get you so far. 3rd shot drop or drive/drop combo seems to be the better play in most cases. And the woman in the yellow hat had some great shots!
It just seems to work out that way. I played a lot of cards in the past, Texas Hold Em. Almost every player with a hat on backwards played aggressively. Seems to be the same for pickleball.
I would rate this play higher than 4.0, more like 4.5. D's backhand was outstanding. Her backhand was an offensive weapon. I must admit I also negatively judge guys who wear their hats backward! Must be an age thing. What I look for at the beginning of a match is which player has their paddle at their side and who is slower to move forward.
The guy in the orange shorts seems to be very good @ dinking . The third shot drop is just a long range dink . You would think this would occur to him & he would give up the third shot drive ( since it's gotten him nowhere ) & atleast try an occasional third drop . Pickle-Ball is a game of percentages , so : which shot enables a player to advance to the NVZ line more often than the other , drop or drive ? No contest...DROP !
@@JeffLandauerObviously the women are really good. So, I missed by one level. I had them at 4.0, you point out the are "almost" 5.0. Thanks for commenting.
Helpful videos but…can you just identify players by 1 and 2 on a team and then A and B on the other team and then superimpose these identifiers on the video and refer to them as such? Your descriptions of the players are driving me crazy
Hitting the ball to the man in Orange pants, is a good thing. At some point man in Orange shorts will realize he is going to have to work at his game, if he doesn’t want to be targeted. Goal is to get better as player not win the game. I have been targeted many times, it is a moment of truth.
I've seen a few of your videos. Each video has a lot of flawed analysis. Yes, 3rd shot drops are the preferred shot. If a returning player doesn't get up to the NVZ hitting a drop is not the shot. You let them advance without having to earn it. You should 3rd shot drive at their feet. A 3rd shot drop is not unsuccessful because it doesn't land in the kitchen. If the player contacts it out of the air below the net they are hitting the ball up which is the goal. A 3rd shot drive is not unsuccessful if you don't get to the NVZ. You can drive the ball 5 times if you move up one step each time you're going to get there or possibly get a pop-up along the way. Also when you analyze a Rec game stop encouraging people to target the weaker player. That's tournament strategy. In a rec game hit the ball to where the proper shot should be played regardless of player. You get better by hitting to better players and targeting a weaker player in a rec game is poor etiquette. You should monitor a lot of your advice when it is not sound pickleball strategy.
Enjoy your videos. Still waiting for you to pick a part one of your games.
Working on it!
Great match. You are right Rory. Targeting the weaker player is rarely a poor strategy. Great defense by D!
Thanks for watching.
Rory, you did a great job with your commentary on this match. I really enjoyed your analysis and I think I picked up a few things that will definitely help me out on the courts!
That's awesome! Glad you found some things to work on.
There is a really good book called "How Doctors Think" by Jerome Groopman, MD in which a key piece of advice for physicians is to keep your mind open as to the diagnosis until you have gathered all the data. When people lock on to a particular view point too early it biases their thinking. The backwards hat thing influenced your thinking. The hat guy actually played a less aggressive style. I challenge you to re-review this with pencil and paper in hand and Pick-apart who had more unforced errors in this game. Note that hat guy had a strong dink game and did not try to speed up balls that were unattackable, and the consistent deep returns. I especially liked how he diagnosed the Ernie that D. was about to get on him and reacted instantly with a nice lob. This was a fun game to watch and these are all really good players. Better than me. I notice that Dawnita sometimes rushes the nvz and gets caught and has to hit a shot before she gets her feet set. Thank you for doing these pick-aparts I love them!
Thanks for the suggestion.
I always decide how to play based on how people on the other side of the net are dressed... wtf. Maybe I should sit in the parking lot and see what they are driving? I feel like I just moved up a level
Shame doctors don't read that book then! Allopathic doctors have no clue what the root cause of anything is - they look symptoms up and do what the book tells them. If they truly had open minds then they'd be looking at the work of Dr Hamer, German New Medicine - and actually finding that nearly all symptoms are signs of healing not disease and talking to the people who go to them for help and actually help them.
Allopathic medicine, beyond setting a fracture and some other ED work, is based on stories, myths and lies and makes things worse not better.
As for pickleball - some of us don't have the cash for fancy gear - we enjoy life too much to work more hours just to buy pretty stuff.
@@jimb6683
All he’s saying is a first impression can give you information. When playing 2 unfamiliar opponents look at who you may return the ball to. Keep doing it until that player proves they can handle what you send their way. Maybe your first impression was wrong but it’s a better strategy than just flipping a coin. No?
You feel the guy in orange is the better player on the far court?
I sure don’t.
Love it when Dawnita attempt to hit the Ernee and great by D covering it!
Thanks for watching and thanks for pointing that out.
Thanks to you ! I love watching your videos, so I can improve myself , I live in small town near Vail resort , I grew up playing badminton in Indonesia moved to the US 44 yrs ago and been playing tennis instead. Retired 6 yrs ago and started playing PB 2 yrs ago, I’m a RecPlayer and play all level and love to win the game!
Fun, and competitive, game to watch. Like you, Rory, I kept wanting the ladies to hit their returns to Orange as his back court game wasn't nearly as good as his soft game at the NVZ. (His dinking was way better than you thought it would be, huh?)
The ladies' mesh really well as a team. I noticed they were having a lot of fun, too. It *is* a game, after all.
I thought the ladies were very, very good. They got back some shots I didn't think they would.
Great pickle ball! Fun to watch. Good commentary.
Thanks for watching and thanks for your nice compliment.
Great game! The women did very well on offense and keeping the guys back, although they did get overpowered a few times. Just goes to show the power game can only get you so far. 3rd shot drop or drive/drop combo seems to be the better play in most cases. And the woman in the yellow hat had some great shots!
Thanks for watching. Excellent observations. Yes, that lady is really good!
Thoroughly enjoyed this
Thanks. I really appreciate you watching.
Good players and a fun match to watch.
Thanks for watching. Overall, really good play.
Great match. Everyone played very well.
Yes it was. Thanks for watching.
idk how you knew but you're completely right haha. i know 3 friends who wear their hat backwards and they are all aggressive power players
It just seems to work out that way. I played a lot of cards in the past, Texas Hold Em. Almost every player with a hat on backwards played aggressively. Seems to be the same for pickleball.
Great game to watch
It was! Very good players.
Yes, you're right that the women could target the man in the orange shorts because he was the weaker player. However, this was rec play.
Thanks for watching. I'm sure they'd target him in a tournament as well.
Fun match to watch! 😊
Awesome! Thanks for watching.
I would rate this play higher than 4.0, more like 4.5. D's backhand was outstanding. Her backhand was an offensive weapon. I must admit I also negatively judge guys who wear their hats backward! Must be an age thing. What I look for at the beginning of a match is which player has their paddle at their side and who is slower to move forward.
That's too great things to look out for. Thanks for watching.
At 15:53, the lady with the purple shirt's left foot steps on the NVZ line after hitting the volley.
The "point of the match" was a fault.
Really? Didn't notice that. Obviously they did not either.
The guy in the orange shorts seems to be very good @ dinking . The third shot drop is just a long range dink . You would think this would occur to him & he would give up the third shot drive ( since it's gotten him nowhere ) & atleast try an occasional third drop . Pickle-Ball is a game of percentages , so : which shot enables a player to advance to the NVZ line more often than the other , drop or drive ? No contest...DROP !
Absolutely! But, it seems more and more the drive is becoming more popular.
@@pickleballpick-apart9787
An essential skill to develop is the defensive block shot at the NVZ to neutralize the third shot drive.
What ranking would you give each player?
Thanks for asking and thanks for watching. I would give the women and the guy in black 4.0. The guy in orange, 3.5.
The women are both nearly 5.0 on DUPR. They played in the pro division in APP Sacramento recently.
@@JeffLandauerObviously the women are really good. So, I missed by one level. I had them at 4.0, you point out the are "almost" 5.0. Thanks for commenting.
Dawnita is the mixed doubles partner I dream of
Thanks for watching.
Helpful videos but…can you just identify players by 1 and 2 on a team and then A and B on the other team and then superimpose these identifiers on the video and refer to them as such? Your descriptions of the players are driving me crazy
Haha. Thanks for your suggestion. I'll give it a shot.
Rec Play shouldn’t stop you from playing smart
Good point! Thanks for watching.
Hitting the ball to the man in Orange pants, is a good thing. At some point man in Orange shorts will realize he is going to have to work at his game, if he doesn’t want to be targeted. Goal is to get better as player not win the game. I have been targeted many times, it is a moment of truth.
I like that you called it a moment of truth. That is true. Thanks for watching.
I've seen a few of your videos. Each video has a lot of flawed analysis. Yes, 3rd shot drops are the preferred shot. If a returning player doesn't get up to the NVZ hitting a drop is not the shot. You let them advance without having to earn it. You should 3rd shot drive at their feet.
A 3rd shot drop is not unsuccessful because it doesn't land in the kitchen. If the player contacts it out of the air below the net they are hitting the ball up which is the goal.
A 3rd shot drive is not unsuccessful if you don't get to the NVZ. You can drive the ball 5 times if you move up one step each time you're going to get there or possibly get a pop-up along the way.
Also when you analyze a Rec game stop encouraging people to target the weaker player. That's tournament strategy. In a rec game hit the ball to where the proper shot should be played regardless of player. You get better by hitting to better players and targeting a weaker player in a rec game is poor etiquette.
You should monitor a lot of your advice when it is not sound pickleball strategy.
Thanks for your comment. I'll take into consideration what you wrote.
it would be a great channel, very informative, if it weren't for the ridiculous prejudices of the commentator
There are 114 million TH-cam channels. Thanks for watching mine.