Which amp has more balls? Engl Fireball 25 vs Fireball 100
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ธ.ค. 2020
- In this video: John Browne and I compare Engl Fireball 25 and Engl Fireball 25 guitar amplifiers at #42GStwo. Do they sound the same and which of them has more balls? Let’s find out!
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This vid really opened my eyes. I was going to get a F25, but now i’m getting an F100. It just has way more balls and bottom end. I can dial more mids in to taste, but cannot dial in the lack of power and feel in the 25.
Totally underrated video!
I still bought the Fireball 25 because in case i need 100w i have an Invader. But tbh the Fireball 25 is so easy to control but still versatile and loud if needed, i'm amazed.
I love my engl fireball 25 thing sounds amazing.
Hi Max. I'm in Australia and I think I discovered your channel with a review on the Dr J Lancelot distortion. I've enjoyed how in depth you get even on that patch lead test, and your interview with Mike Soldano was very interesting. I got a couple funky cool pedals from a German guy, Joe Doc Music this week and my favourite instrument is my Sandberg bass (to show your countrymen some love).
To comment on this video, my 20 watt marshall uses the same 2 "full size" el34s as a 40-50 watter. What I've read is the "cathode-biasing" (self adjusting) reduces the power somewhat along with lower voltages than a more powerful amp.
Cheers for the vids.
Quite the ballz for a lunchbox. I've played the small Ironball. Having the Powerball II, I can attest that the small one is on pair when it comes to the brutal sound.
I’ve got a 25, love it. At band practice, I’m turned up to 3.5-4 on the master volume, I use 2 4x12 cabs. It’s extremely loud. I can’t imagine how much louder the 100w Head would be. Should I also get the big brother because I love the Fireball 25 so much? I love how versatile it is.. I play doom metal to death metal, it does it all!
I hear that engl are kinda compressed , fb 25 does have any organic feeling or is sterile?
the 100W will probably not even be that much louder but give you a wider frequency as you hear in the video, and most likely it's less compressed at the same volume. Depends if you want compressed mid-focus or not.
@@Zwidawurzn I had the 100W, it is extremely loud
100w. Not a fan of Engl voicing but they have one of the best master volumes where the 100w is just as good to control with lower volumes imo
exactely that. i personally really like engl amps. they sound focused, love that.
Hi, I'm Bobbie Hotard from Thibodaux, Louisiana USA. This video popped up on my feed and I was curious to watch it. I enjoyed it and subscribed to your channel. I use a block letter 5150 for my live sound with Marshall cabinets. I also own a modded Marshall JCM900 Dual Reverb head. I use an Engl Powerball in Amplitube for all of my home recordings. I've been considering getting an Engl for my live rig which is why I was interested in your video.
Awesome! Thank you! It sounds like you have a very loud rig :) I wish I had one of the classic Marshalls at home as a reference amp. Already have a 6505 and it rocks
Played the ENGL Fireball 100 7 years on stage, it is a great amp but you have to be really carefull with the bass. It is blowing away everthing
The power of the amps not only depends of the type of tubes... initially depend of the size of the transformer, that’s why a 2xEL34 or 2x6L6 can deliver 25, 30, 40 or 50 W with diferent transformers.
Well, the transformers are calculated for the respective use. The decisive factor is the size, but also the sheet material used. In the case of higher-quality sheet metal, the output transformer can be smaller, but still be designed for the same wattage. In the case of the Fireball 25, the 25 watts are achieved by reducing the anode voltage.
Thanks, Marty!
I would have liked some knob turning to see when they sound alike. Cut the bass on the 100, up it on the 25... you know? And then John was saying he preferred the Soldano but I don’t remember it even being played, lol.
Wow. That 25 sounded so much more clear and defined. Color me intrigued. I only play in the bedroom seems like a no brainer with the 5 watt and 1 watt power scaling.
yeah the 25 sounds like it's in a box compared to the 100. i notice a similar thing with the ironball despite that being el84. if i plug the fx send into my blackmore's fx return it sounds way bigger all of a sudden.
That Cab of IR sounds terrible. For me the 25 sounds just broken with it... I just watched Olas Video with the 25 and it has serious Balls
The 100 sounds miles better. Thicker, smoother, and fuller. You can dial out the extra oomph a lot easier than you can dial it in. But why would you?!
@@ThornWithin Maybe. I've been playing a FB100 for about four years, two years with a band. Records great. Sits in the mix great, both live and in the can. Does bedroom volume amazingly well considering the wattage, and can blow doors off clubs when cranked. The 25's advantages are that it's cheaper and easier to carry. Beyond that, I'm not seeing the draw.
@@crustophiles wait what ? the 100 W Fireball can handle Bedroom volume ? Oo . I think that would be the reason to buy the Fireball 25 W ...thanks dude !
@@antonwilding9744 I played my FB100 in a Japanese apartment with rice-cracker walls for two years before getting a band together. You definitely need to be VERY delicate with the master volume and set the EQ differently than you would if you were going loud (hint: use more gain and, like, all the bass). But it sounded awesome and never let me down. Does it sound better cranked the eff up? Sure. It's a 100 watter. But it sounds wicked at a whisper, too.
@@crustophiles i might go with the 25 Watts then . I have the feeling its not good for the tubes playing them underpowered in long term ( 100 watts at living room level) . They need their comfort zone tough
@@antonwilding9744 Actually, playing at low volume isn't bad for the tubes. If anything, they'll last longer. Also, the volume difference between 25 watts and 100 watts is 6db (i.e. not much). The real difference is how much clean headroom you have. Realistically, the 25 watt amp may do bedroom volume better (maybe, but not necessarily). However, if you ever try to jam or gig with it, you're going to be living with power tube distortion whether you like it or not, and can kiss your cleans goodbye altogether. Personally, for indoor playing, I'd get the 100 and a high quality power soak.
I ordered the Fireball 100 today :D
So did I hahah I had a used 100
And wanted a brand new one.😬
@@Logjammer69That's the dumbest and most wasteful thing I've heard in a while.
You should be ashamed of yourself.
The mt15 is advertised as 15w with 2 6L6s, but it actually puts out around 25w
and why this happen?
@@WillVRam
It was due to marketing. You can look into a few deep dive videos about it. In 30 minutes it could be modded to output 50 watts
The 100w is really more bigger sounding
Now you should compare the SLO30 and the Fireball 25w
Great channel
Simple comparison: 3 times more expensive
I purchased the engl fireball 25 and I was looking fir good reviews I could trust. I came across this vid and I liked the banter so I went one further and sibscibed. Now you have a stalker for the ride.
Haha, thanks! How do you like the amp?
I keep flip flopping on which one I should get. I’m playing a Marshall DSL100H which honestly I love but I tried a fireball 100 when my band was on tour in Germany and it sounded sooo sick. I really want to upgrade. Is the 25 legitimately going to be loud enough to use for a band practice or show with acoustic drums and a cranked band?
I should just go with the 100, huh?
Depends on what you want but i'd say when in doubt take the 100W for use with the band. I mean the 100W will always sound bigger, the 25W looks more like a fancy bedroom amp which will handle some jam sessions or rehearsal aswell if needed.
As a happy FB100 owner, I can say - go big. You won't regret it.
Here because I saw ENGL come out with a red version with a 2x12 so showing interest :D. Can't decide if it may be the Fireball 100, Invader II silver, or the Savage II 120
Savage II all the way, it is my dream amp. It sounds better than almost anything. The only thing is that you'll have to get used to all of the knob functions
+1 on the savage. It is one of the best amps I have ever owned. The low end of a Dual Rec but so much more in options.
@@anxiousnation3820 really? Does it have a matching cab 🤔? I still can't decide lol part of me wants the Invader bc it gives me huge Star Wars vibes... but that Savage sounds like it does abit more. Wish I could go somewhere to try them out
@@NihonNoMajin I don't know about the matching cab. I use a Randall 4x12 with V30's. I could make a video of the savage if there is something you want to hear. Let me know.
Is that glass for social distancing? Ugh, what a time. Any how, I was almost dead set on the 25 because I wanted a small set up but Im starting to consider going balls out with the 100 and a 4x12.
Yep, a plexiglass screen
Hands-down, the 100 wins because of its more balanced frequency response.
If you like how the 25 sounds, you could easily post-EQ the 100 to sound the same. The reverse would be more challenging.
What kind of IRs did you use? 1x12 V30?
We had the same IR in all Captors in all rooms. Don't remember what it was, Henning programmed the Captors
Hello! As for me the 100w is better! But I still like my Engl Metalmaster 40 more than Fireball.
Not sure in a mix but..... the 100w with the mids focus sounded immense....
mis shift ... sorry
You found my pants from my teenage years! 🤣
Why comparing those 2 ? I think the 24W Fireball is for Homeplaying and the 100 Watts is for live Playing ....huh ?
Engl marbles Vs Engl BALLZZZ!
10:36 - THAT! 👍🤘
that 100 watter for the win, the 25 still sounds good but that 100 should have gansta sunglasses on it
Haha, I can totally see that! Still, the 25 for me :)
Lol!!
Is that red guitar an ibanez ?
Both sound very good. 100 more agressive and huge but 25 is more versatile and covers wider tone range.
That's what I'm saying :)
@@MaxSoloMusic Я просто видео не до конца посмотрел :D
How to not dial in an engl 101 right hear
Why can't the guy on the left not move his head?
The 25
You can here the difference at 2:42
I hate the upper mids on the 25 haha :D
Looks like you filmed this video in 1998
Is it worth the 1000€?
which one? The 25W is about 850€ which is a lot of money for a little amp, the 100W is 1200€ which is little money for a lot of amp. At least in my opinion.
Dramatically difference, 100 watts much better.
All the Watts!!!
From Ny
100-ка победила. Будем ли заметна разница в миксе, вот в чём вопрос.
100-ка звучит по агрессивнее и низы более глубокие, но 25-ая по мне более универсальная.
@@OrkhanJulfa по мне 25 вообще ужасно звучит.
Универсальными Енглы вообще не считаю, их звук для меня один из эталонов хайгена.
Browne!!!
Yep!
squeeky ...
OMG, stop talking!!!
25 is trash 100 is beast