You have to give the clock exactly what it needs. It needs 10 hours. The only ways to break that up is, 2 and 8 hours, and 3 and 7 hours. The small portion (2,3) can be done in off dury, sleeper berth, or even personal conveyance if need be, because DOT doesnt expect you to only be sleeping while doing the small portion, therefore you can be in off duty or even PC. However they do expect you to sleep during the 7 or 8 hour shift therefore they expect it to be sleeper berth only, because sleeper berth is not just a function on the tablet, its a location inside the truck (anything behind the driver and passenger seat) and of course in DOT's eyes, why would you move if your sleeping.. thats why you cant use personal conveyance or off duty when youre doing the big portion (7,8)... you also cannot use like 6 and 4 hours or 5 and 5 hours to do a split, because they expect you to have 7 or 8 hours of sleep, not just 5 or 6. . Now, the clock only needs 2 hours or 3 hours to start off, anything more than 2 hours or 3 hours is a waste, in the sense that if you go down for 2 hours and 38 minutes, you will only receive the 2 hours from that, or if you go down for 5 hours, then you only get 3 hours from it. Because it only needs 2 or 3 hours and thats all. Likewise if you need only 7 hours and you go down for 7 hours and 45 minutes, you only get 7, same with the 8 hour portion. Never give it more than it needs, but dont fall short either. If you need 7 hours, but you only get 6 hours and 58 minutes, you just lost it and have to start it all over again..(If youre doing the big portion first, but fall short of the 7 hours, then it will automatically give yiu 3 hours out of that time) Also, it doesnt matter if you do the big portion (7,8) or the small portion (2,3) first. They can be done in either order, as long as a total of 10 hours is complete. If you're doing a full 10 hour break by itself, then you may be in off duty, personal conveyance, and sleeper berth, because DOT doesnt know exactly what part of that 10 hours youre driving or sleeping, thats why you can be in various duty statuses. Theres more to it, but hopefully that simplifies it a bit... also correct me if im wrong lol
If I were ruler. I'd have the clock pause everything I'm not driving. 8 hr instead of 10. And 24 hr resets. 34s are mentally brutal to me, because I'm far from home and spend it in the truck usually sleeping too much.
@georgeperkins4171 haha yeah it's crazy man, unfortunately it's what we get to follow lol. I'm an orientation specialist and I get to explain this all the time haha. Keep up the good work man. Just pay attention and it'll come to you :)
Question 🙋♂️ say you started early and did a 2 hour break to stop the clock but still have 10:30 mins of drive time and 13:30 of workday, and after the two hours are up you drive and use up all of your work and drive time. When you shut down and put yourself on sleeper berth do you get time back after 8 hours?
What happens if you go over 7,8 ..I know if you take 10;you reset the whole clock .. But if you go over 10 can you still use the 8 and 2 split to extend your 14? The 7/3 and 8/2 are minimum so you could take 12 in sb if you wanted right
What was explained to me by my logs department is that after 2 hours the rest of the time is irrelevant but still pauses your 14 where you stopped it and extends your day.. but the second part has to be the 7 or 8 hours.. I tried to do 5.25 and 4.75 and it went into violation so I had to have them edit the time 🤦🏻♂️
I got a notification on my ELD that I must stop driving in 15 minutes if I’m not using the sleeper birth provision but my regular clock had two hours and a half left on it. Do I disregard the notification and keep on driving I was a sleeper berth that day for over two hours.
But did you use the Google switch to put it on split sleeper birth and yes it will but you in violation til you take the 2nd part of the break once it runs over original hours you will be in red but it will clear out once you complete the second portion of the break
Elementary word problem: if Johnny drove for 5 hours, took his half hour break, and then slept for 7 hrs and 3 mins; would Johnny be allowed to continue to drive and how long? 😂😂😂😂😂. Also how many hours could Suzy drive if she didn’t have her class a cdl and was just johnnys wife?
You have to give the clock exactly what it needs. It needs 10 hours. The only ways to break that up is, 2 and 8 hours, and 3 and 7 hours. The small portion (2,3) can be done in off dury, sleeper berth, or even personal conveyance if need be, because DOT doesnt expect you to only be sleeping while doing the small portion, therefore you can be in off duty or even PC. However they do expect you to sleep during the 7 or 8 hour shift therefore they expect it to be sleeper berth only, because sleeper berth is not just a function on the tablet, its a location inside the truck (anything behind the driver and passenger seat) and of course in DOT's eyes, why would you move if your sleeping.. thats why you cant use personal conveyance or off duty when youre doing the big portion (7,8)... you also cannot use like 6 and 4 hours or 5 and 5 hours to do a split, because they expect you to have 7 or 8 hours of sleep, not just 5 or 6. .
Now, the clock only needs 2 hours or 3 hours to start off, anything more than 2 hours or 3 hours is a waste, in the sense that if you go down for 2 hours and 38 minutes, you will only receive the 2 hours from that, or if you go down for 5 hours, then you only get 3 hours from it. Because it only needs 2 or 3 hours and thats all. Likewise if you need only 7 hours and you go down for 7 hours and 45 minutes, you only get 7, same with the 8 hour portion. Never give it more than it needs, but dont fall short either. If you need 7 hours, but you only get 6 hours and 58 minutes, you just lost it and have to start it all over again..(If youre doing the big portion first, but fall short of the 7 hours, then it will automatically give yiu 3 hours out of that time)
Also, it doesnt matter if you do the big portion (7,8) or the small portion (2,3) first. They can be done in either order, as long as a total of 10 hours is complete.
If you're doing a full 10 hour break by itself, then you may be in off duty, personal conveyance, and sleeper berth, because DOT doesnt know exactly what part of that 10 hours youre driving or sleeping, thats why you can be in various duty statuses.
Theres more to it, but hopefully that simplifies it a bit... also correct me if im wrong lol
That's tge best explanation I've heard. But my experience has been, just when I think I've grasped it, I haven't. 😄
If I were ruler. I'd have the clock pause everything I'm not driving. 8 hr instead of 10. And 24 hr resets. 34s are mentally brutal to me, because I'm far from home and spend it in the truck usually sleeping too much.
@georgeperkins4171 haha yeah it's crazy man, unfortunately it's what we get to follow lol. I'm an orientation specialist and I get to explain this all the time haha. Keep up the good work man. Just pay attention and it'll come to you :)
Best explanation of split berth so far
Question 🙋♂️ say you started early and did a 2 hour break to stop the clock but still have 10:30 mins of drive time and 13:30 of workday, and after the two hours are up you drive and use up all of your work and drive time. When you shut down and put yourself on sleeper berth do you get time back after 8 hours?
What happens if you go over 7,8 ..I know if you take 10;you reset the whole clock ..
But if you go over 10 can you still use the 8 and 2 split to extend your 14?
The 7/3 and 8/2 are minimum so you could take 12 in sb if you wanted right
What was explained to me by my logs department is that after 2 hours the rest of the time is irrelevant but still pauses your 14 where you stopped it and extends your day.. but the second part has to be the 7 or 8 hours.. I tried to do 5.25 and 4.75 and it went into violation so I had to have them edit the time 🤦🏻♂️
I got a notification on my ELD that I must stop driving in 15 minutes if I’m not using the sleeper birth provision but my regular clock had two hours and a half left on it. Do I disregard the notification and keep on driving I was a sleeper berth that day for over two hours.
But did you use the Google switch to put it on split sleeper birth and yes it will but you in violation til you take the 2nd part of the break once it runs over original hours you will be in red but it will clear out once you complete the second portion of the break
It's like they dreamed up a regulation to be confusing to drivers, as a joke. To mess with our heads.
Thanks a lot, really helpful
7 hours or more? I get time back after being in sleeper for 3 hours
Good video, thank you😁😁😁
How many hours do you have to drive between each break to satisfy the rest that’s the important part
How about if I wanna do 9 sleep do I have to take 2 off or 1hr will do the rest? Thx
That would fulfill the 8hr part of the 8/2 split. You would then have to do a 2 hr sleeper to complete the break.
I flipped on split berth but my 14 hour is still counting down in Zonar. I don't get it.
If I drive 4.5 hours take a 3 hour break and drive 4 more hours and take 7 will my 14 clock reset and add more driving hours ?
You would get back 4.5 hrs or whatever your total on duty time was before you first paused your clock.
8/2 7/3 or 2/8 3/7 or either way?
Elementary word problem: if Johnny drove for 5 hours, took his half hour break, and then slept for 7 hrs and 3 mins; would Johnny be allowed to continue to drive and how long? 😂😂😂😂😂. Also how many hours could Suzy drive if she didn’t have her class a cdl and was just johnnys wife?
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My situation exactly 😂 name and all
Suzie can drive as long as she wants nothing is illegal until you get caught 😂
That's what I learned from my trainer with paper logs anyway 😕
Johnny and Suzy are both flunkies
what the duck, in a truck ! 😊
maybe i shouldn't have dropped out of school
Thank u
i have a question ?
is your name Tucker 🤔 trucker
What if u take you 7 first
You can do a 7hr break first just read it u can Google it.
Then you would have to do 3 hr break when you stopped again
It only works on paper
So convoluted...
Wonder why so many new truckers are foreign born new to this country , it's government over regulation poor pay.
I wondered the same thing
Towels and Tacos. 🙄🤷♂️
Always using safety, to apply tyranny. But but but it's for your safety. Blah blah blah
If you don’t understand after that! You are a bone head trucker! 💀 😂
I just violate no big deal
if you first take 8 or 7 hours of sleep it doesn’t give you 14 hours
You know government came up with this complicated nonsense
do not bullshit people
wrong