For those with short attention spans: 5. Think about why you are buying? Is it for investment or pleasure? 4. Research the watch - history, prices, etc 3. Performance - make sure everything works as described when it arrives and that it keeps time 2. Condition - ask if it's all original, check for over-polishing 1. Reputation of the seller/dealer/store - worth paying extra for a good source
Funnily enough, I just today received my first "highish-end" vintage watch purchase today, which I found on eBay. A 1993 Rolex Datejust SS silver tapestry dial with box and papers. My advice: (1) Firstly, if you are paying a bit extra for the box, make sure it's the right box, it should look right. Tons of fake boxes out there. Also, make sure the papers match the watch. (2) Secondly, eBay's "Buy it Now" prices are usually a bit higher than they should be. The best deals appear to be on "Make an Offer" listings or regular bidding listings. (3) Lastly, don't fall too deep in love with a particular watch. Be willing to walk away, if the deal doesn't make sense.
You should put together a compilation of the intros you've made over the years, it is artwork after all and I'd love to watch them all again, great video as always
+Dean Spence I feel the same, and find his intros to be a treat. The gorgeous videography and interesting music, along with the amazing acting abilities of his co-host Ernie are worthy of an award.
Recently I discovered your channel and I'm enjoying it a lot. It's rare to find someone with class and sophistication that isn't trying too hard. However I would recommend caution against the Better Business Bureau, they are not run by the US government. They are a private group, and there are many stories of people paying to get a higher rating than they deserve, or to prevent a good rating from falling.
Thanks so much for the great video. Your words are stirring and you advocate for dealing with sellers who have integrity. I love the old watches, I think because of their history, known or not known. They're treasures. Somebody might have been wearing that watch during a war, or in a courtroom, or driving cross-country, or raising six kids. Magnificent. For the buyer buying for personal use, make sure the watch fits you, goes with the way you dress, the way you come across. Very important. Thanks again!!
Summer is almost here! It's so good to see you and Ernie out enjoying the warm spring air and sunshine. Excellent video, information, and delivery, as always!
TGV thank you for providing another video filled with such much knowledge you really amaze me and have increased my wisdom on this subject 10 fold, excellent job !!!
Hi TGV, watching The Urban Gentry really made me into watches, I have an old Seiko that my Dad got from his uncle when he was getting into Highschool (1974) and also just recently bought a vintage 1984 Seiko Digital LCD watch, really like your videos especially those ones about Seiko, all the best.
Thanks a lot Tristano, for sharing your wisdom!👍 I am very close to making my first vintage purchase. It’s also and expensive watch for me, so I’m trying to do all the things you suggested including a lot of online research. The videos you’ve done where are you go through some eBay and Chronos24 postings have helped a great deal. I came back to revisit this particular video to make sure I had followed your list of suggestions, and I have! 🧐 So I am really ready to take the plunge. I’ll let you know how it turns out if I pull the trigger!😊
I was stalking eBay for a limited piece and found a seller who was relatively new with 200 feedback all positive. I was still suspicious and kept asking her questions. In the end, it was a legit buy but not before I researched the serial number, the contents of the package etc. very good points TGV, hope this helps people in their next purchases!
Hi , you were talking about researching the serial number , is that using the internet? The only small help I got was with getting a idea of the year of the watch (it was an Omega) any advice appreciated , thank you Shawn
This is a great informative video, it should be highlighted & put out again. Congratulations on ur new job TGV & glad ur still making quality videos on utube , a pleasure to watch - no pun intended lol
+Victor Colubriale Wow, that's a really interesting mix of cultures and places! Glad to have you with us and thank you for the kind words, always appreciated. Best regards, TGV
Who's a reputable pre owned rolex omega or panerai seller in the uk. It's my 50th so yep extremely important. My new hobby has just gone into overdrive..love it!
Great great video, TGV. Really helpful. I must say that I prefer Chrono24 more than eBay, but I'm still not so happy when I have to buy from either one of these. As you said, as long as you pay attention you can have fantastic deals. Thank you very much. Best regards, Michele.
I've understood there to be three types of seller on the internet.1. individual2. internet shop3. Real world watch shop, selling on the net. This could be through an auction site, or a dedicated website.The trustworthiness and hence the price will increase as you go from 1-3.
Get out of my brain TGV! I'm in the middle of trying to buy a vintage Omega Seamaster and you post this! Thanks for all the tips. They are very helpful. Love the channel.
I could not have put this better myself. This is the perfect, concise list of things to do to go about buying a used or vintage piece. Well Done Tristano. This is such a valuable resource video I feel. Keep up the great work my friend.
I look to dealers first, but also enjoy looking through the compiled private sales on watch recon. I've burned countless hours looking at both types of sources. Thank God my wife is tolerant of my hobbies! Great video, as usual. Best-David
Hi TGV, I've watched a good few of your videos now, I find you to be informative, fun, interesting and extremely kind and fair. You clearly put a lot of time and effort in to your videos and I can assure it's not wasted. I'm excited to be buying my first automatic watch imminently so thank you very much for your work, please keep it up! Cheers, Rob.
GOOD ONE! Bought my GSHOCK RISEMAN over eBay - feedback everything was 100%. Got the watch with all papers and guarantee .... Very helpful tips....TGV =)
just wanted to say...THANK YOU for introducing me to wrist candy. I bought my first n.a.t.o. strap. its a blue with double white stripes, and I put it on a Timex expedition scout, blue face, white digits, silver case. its only a $40 watch, but it looks like a million bucks. Love your channel, sir.
Top class act TGV. I was looking for this as i am considering to start looking at ebay or maybe amazon to my next purchases. Until now ive used chrono and have been satisfied.
In 6-7 months of watching your videos, I've bought 8 watches and sold 3 watches, and gift away 1 watch. Finally, you are talking about buying used watches.
+The Urban Gentry many youtubers make lots and lots on videos on the same subject. It's normally for new followers to catch up and for new development and stories on the subject. Gotta keep up the grind! You will get there.
+The Urban Gentry many youtubers make lots and lots on videos on the same subject. It's normally for new followers to catch up and for new development and stories on the subject. Gotta keep up the grind! You will get there.
Wonderful advice, Tristano. As you know from my posts to the Watch Club, I've been on the hunt for vintage watches for months. Indeed, I've learned a lot over that time. Some watches turned out to be of lesser quality than their sellers had described them to be, while others were spot on. A tip I can offer anyone looking for vintage (or a new watch for that matter) is to buy something that interests you and brings you joy (like you said in your video) and NOT because it's simply vintage and selling for a great price. If it meets both criteria, then fantastic! I wish I had been more discerning with my earlier purchases, but the silver lining is that I got to know more about what to look for in a used watch and to define my tastes for them.
I agree resale is not the most important. I got tired, however, of my first 2 watches and wanted to get what I consider a real luxury watch so I sold both and was able to make a few hundred on each. It was enough to take away the sting of buying the used luxury piece. I consider it a win that I didn't lose money on my first two but that was only because I got them on the grey market.
Just had a not so good event through a dealer on Chrono24 purchasing a JLC. When I checked address it turned out to be a parking garage. In addition, there was that I just don't feel comfortable with this. Really wanted the watch but buy with your head and not your heart especially in this type of circumstance. Even reading reviews on the site how can you be sure they are legit.... I don't know if I can ever feel comfortable purchasing this way.
Thanks for the great advice Tristano! Been thinking of getting a used vintage watch and trying to filter out the good vendors and choosing the best watch of course. Let the hunt continue!
+Brian Mifsud Thank you Brian, Happy hunting, as my other good friend Brian said in the comments earlier, the thrill of hunt is the best part! ;-) Best regards, TGV
+The Urban Gentry No jokes, when the time (no pun intended) is there ill pay you for doing research and advise me on which brand, model, seller/dealer etc. Ill be contacting you in the near future!
yes some “due diligence“ on the dealer is mandatory. and informations concerning type of dial, the writings and overall look are important. i am looking for some day date piece for some months now and so far never found a no risk deal....
TGV, Have had some good luck buying Vintage pieces on eBay. The one time that I was burned was with a pompous seller who stated that I could have the vintage piece serviced by my jeweler due to the watch malfunction and send him the receipt. The seller strung me out until the feedback time expired. I was" had" and never was reimbursed. Lesson learned!! 👍🍷
I got stocks and exchange traded funds for investments ..You'll do far better that way than using time pieces..The quartely dividends from these investments allow the finances to buy time pieces for Pleasure.. Much more fun to play the game that way in my eyes..
TGV, thank you for your videos..I do enjoy watching them! I recently got into watches and only have a Hamilton Khaki Auto and Seagull 1963, but I'm enjoying them! Thanks again, from East Tennessee, near Dollywood!
+The Urban Gentry Thank you for the response! Much appreciated! I have had the Seagull for a week....so far so good! Beautiful watch. I am a college professor who teaches Speech class and I plan to use it to time student speeches!
Ciao TGV. I do totally agree with your list. Independently by the value of the watch, the most important thing is the reputation of the seller. This, to me, means also the service rendered after the sale in case of repair or whatever is necessary! The communication (written or by phone, for example) helps to establish a relationship of mutual trust. Fortunately, I found a great honest and professional seller here in Italy when I bought my Hamilton Jazzmaster Seaview Chrono. Ciao e grazie per i tuoi video! Diego
Excellent video, Tristano. Clear, useful,... Here's my positive vote. Keep on sharing your passion. I feel passion too about some kind of watches. I imagine automatic watches, manual watches like hearts. (in opposition to quartz watches, a personal idea) Best wishes from Salamanca, SPAIN!!!. Buonasera, good afternoon.
Hi TGV, very helpful video! thank you. I have only ever bought new watches and would like to start buying used or vintage. I only buy for my personal pleasure. Would you consider doing a tutorial type video, where you buy a used or vintage piece on video. You could take us through all the steps this entails, like research, purchasing, and testing. Maybe a three or four part series?
+Tom Knox Hi Tom, thats a great idea, I will certainly follow up with a "tutorial" video. Maybe go through step by step on buying a piece myself and recommend some seller. Thank you, good thinking, Best regards, TGV
Well done tgv,this is an ideal video for anyone who starting to get the watch collecting bug ,I do feel as you mentioned research the brand of watch you want look at the pros and cons and don't buy until you 100% happy,I have to say one of the best forms of information is the urban gentry Facebook page it's always great to ask the watch community there thoughts on certain brands.thank.brizzy
+Brizzy 91270 EXCELELTN point about being "100% happy" and very true about the Facebook group, I should of mentioned it, so much expertise there! Thank you Brizzy, nice one. Best regards, TGV
What are your thoughts on purchasing thru Pawn Shops? I've seen a few pieces in various shops lately at pretty reasonable prices, with boxes and papers. However, something with these shops doesn't sit right with me. Maybe it's the fact that these watches are here because the previous owner fell on hard times and needed money quickly. Morally, is it ok? Have you or anyone else got opinions or experience of this? Kind regards. Ali
really like the video:) . Personally I think research the piece and, the brand as well as the seller are the most important part. Keep up the good work
Speedmaster...My dream watch...Today's find Seiko Arnie 558-5009. $45....Best find 1947 Patek Philippe $15 sold it for $3000 ...I always say Time is Money
Thanks so much. I am actually in the process of negotiating with a dealer on Chrono24 for a pre-owned Speedmaster Reduced listed as "service completed May 2017". The only point on your checklist that I am lacking is the the dealr's lack of selling history, (member since 2016 with only 7 verified transactions... no listed feedback). He has responded quickly thus far to my inquiries, and sounds professional. I am awaiting further photos that I requested as well as more details regarding the servicing. In terms of selling history, although I would be happier if he were a dealer with a long and trusted reputation, I am inclined to believe that everyone has to start somewhere. Am I being naive in this situation?
Buy the dial, and buy the seller. My two best pieces of advice. If you're gonna buy a piece with replacement parts at the very least the watch should have an original dial in good condition. The dial is what you're going to look at most. Also prefer forthcoming sellers with good reputation. I've sold for less by being completely honest but in the long run it's made it much easier for me to sell watches and I've established numerous reliable relationships with dealers and collectors.
Governor! Seiko SARB is definitely valued in the Facebook community...would you ever do a comparison to the SDGM...similar movement but different build....good stuff!
Wow! I can't remember when was the last time I saw that beautiful bookshelf on your videos :P thanks a lot for the tips! Very useful, also thanks for the good work! Cheers!!!
+hellotabasco Haha, you must of been watching since the very early days! Means a lot to me to still have you with us. Thank you my friend, Best regards, TGV
Nice video and great advice. Once I get my used watches in hand I take them to my local, trusted watchmaker. I have them tested for amplitude and water proof tight seals. They've helped me identify some small broken bits that occurred during shipping but didn't prevent the watch from working so I may have never known to have it checked. They've even been able to identify if the watch had genuine or aftermarket Rolex lubricants used. Isn't that crazy? My local watch maker is awesome and only opens watches in a room with negative pressure to mitigate dust and debris from entering the case. Thanks TGV! tDS
The only watch in our house that was bought used was my wife's Cartier Tank Francais. I found it on eBay from a seller not too far from us. Popped down to see the watch and got it for a steal. It was 12 years old and never been polished plus box a papers including original receipt. Got it for £1600 and these are £4200 new! Had it serviced a couple of months later including a polish and it came back indistinguishable from new. Right result!
I buy for pleasure and Value. VERY HIGH END Pieces I prefer AD’s or Guys Like You I’ve learned to trust! New Watches Value for Price! I would prefer to pay more to a reputable dealer. There are some great dealers, but there are some Crooks!
I love your videos. Great style and information. You've inspired me to look for vintage watches on ebay. I found dirt-cheap Fortis watches and feel like I'm missing something. I mean we're talking Timex prices. What is going on? Did Fortis have different markets they catered to? Not much online info. Hoping you have some insight. Thanks.
Recently read a ton of bad reviews and disappointing comments about Chrono24 , and now I'm downright concerned about any watch I take a look at there...
Very good video man, really important points here. I've been pretty active on ebay this year hahahaa but always taking good attention to the reputation of the seller. A tip of mine would be always trying to ask as many question as possible to the seller, I really value this contact and I think is a good chance to be sure you are treating with a respectable person. Best regards!!
+João Vitor Amaral Silva Thank you Joao, could not agree more you your tip. Happy hunting my friend, btw, did you ever find that Bulgari you were lusting after? Best regards, TGV
The Urban Gentry They are actually not that hard to find, but are way out of my price range right now. I have an uncle that has one, altough I am not 100% sure its original...the looks of that watch makes me almost drool!!
Hi tgv fantastic vid my friend, thank you for you wealth of knowledge, experience, and help,ever the gentleman, onwards and upwards, all the best my friend Ryan.
Excellent work on the channel and thank you for promoting the watch collecting hobby! Do you have any tips on replacing straps? I have a ceramic sub and would love to see it on different strap but would hate to nick the case. Maybe you could demonstrate on a future video?
I've been very hesitant buying online because of fraud even on Chrono24 has had fakes being sold... still what about finding the value of vintage watches? inherited a 130yr old pocket watch and a 80yr old wrist watch
how about brands like Everite , Excalibur??? they seems to be great looking yet relatively inexpensive , i think are swiss made watches but in-house brands are created by British jewellery brand H Samuel in the 50s to 70s .
ok, so you have the watch - right now for me using a seagull 1963 for the moment. The pre owned listing ie @ ebay, had more than one option at different price points. By what criteria are the watches to be evaluated, value @ price point etc. Thanks
Where would be the better places to look for used watches, vintage, collectibles etc?? I come across stuff regularly and NOW you got me all worked up for watches🙈 For some reason I’ve put my cheapy on few days ago.. never wear watch🤔 Anyways... Also What you think of the Nixon Regulus for a beater?
I was wondering if it is a good idea if i should buy an hundred dollar rolex on a pre-owned website. I've done some research and it does look like a real rolex. Should i make the deal or is it a trick?
Hi Tristano, good advice. It is a headache finding a good seller with a good price these days. I get tempted but back down in the last moment. I would rather save up and buy new from an AD if the watch is important to me.
Excellent advise Tristano. My number one and your number one are pretty much the same - buy the seller. If I'm looking at a watch for sale on a forum such as WUS I'll check out the seller's history of posts - how many, how active... You can get a good feel for a person by this. Another point - photos. If in doubt ask for more. A tip for those selling, if you want my attention post lots of nice photos. As a buyer that's the first thing I look at. Ciao, John
Please TGV, how can I get hold of the Guitar song in the intro? I enjoy it immensely! Love your videos! Best wishes from Vienna, Austria, yours truly Daniel
+Daniel Wagner Thank you Daniel, it is Tom Waits, the name of the song I forget but it is in the free mixtape I put fro download last week in the 2 year anniversary video, the link is in the description, enjoy! Best regards, TGV
i would really appreciate if somebody gave me some answers about some vintage watches recently i saw in Austria some vintage pieces from Zenith : Zenith Vintage Cal.2541 from 1960 , Zenith Movado Sporto 28800 Cal.2562 and ZENITH Respirator for around 200-300 Euros would they be a good purchase or not ?
+Cadillac Smith Good point, can you believe it? I never bought on a watch forum, so I cant honestly say. Where would you recommend I start? Thank you, Best regards, TGV
Then that would explain why you wouldn't have mentioned it! LoL..... Watchuseek seems like a good forum. The same would apply as eBay. You'd want to make sure the individual is a long time forum member, with a lot of positive interactions etc...
For those with short attention spans:
5. Think about why you are buying? Is it for investment or pleasure?
4. Research the watch - history, prices, etc
3. Performance - make sure everything works as described when it arrives and that it keeps time
2. Condition - ask if it's all original, check for over-polishing
1. Reputation of the seller/dealer/store - worth paying extra for a good source
You are a saint
Champion thank you
I must say, you are the most reliable and humble watch-reviewer on TH-cam. I absolutely enjoy every single one of your vids! Keep up the good work!
Thank you so much, very flattered. Really has made my day.
Best regards,
TGV
I have to agree. A few of the other channels are just downright watch snobs, sorry just sayin'.
Funnily enough, I just today received my first "highish-end" vintage watch purchase today, which I found on eBay. A 1993 Rolex Datejust SS silver tapestry dial with box and papers.
My advice: (1) Firstly, if you are paying a bit extra for the box, make sure it's the right box, it should look right. Tons of fake boxes out there. Also, make sure the papers match the watch. (2) Secondly, eBay's "Buy it Now" prices are usually a bit higher than they should be. The best deals appear to be on "Make an Offer" listings or regular bidding listings. (3) Lastly, don't fall too deep in love with a particular watch. Be willing to walk away, if the deal doesn't make sense.
You should put together a compilation of the intros you've made over the years, it is artwork after all and I'd love to watch them all again, great video as always
+Dean Spence Thats a really good idea. Theres a few that never got shared too. I will do that eventual, nice one Dean.
Best regards,
TGV
+Dean Spence I feel the same, and find his intros to be a treat. The gorgeous videography and interesting music, along with the amazing acting abilities of his co-host Ernie are worthy of an award.
He's slick to say the least. Got me to buy the G-shock Mudman for short money. Now, it is one of my favorite watches.
I agree. I'm currently starting videography and I am always using your intros as reference in shooting. Really classy
Recently I discovered your channel and I'm enjoying it a lot. It's rare to find someone with class and sophistication that isn't trying too hard.
However I would recommend caution against the Better Business Bureau, they are not run by the US government. They are a private group, and there are many stories of people paying to get a higher rating than they deserve, or to prevent a good rating from falling.
BBB is totally fake bullshit!!!
Thanks so much for the great video. Your words are stirring and you advocate for dealing with sellers who have integrity. I love the old watches, I think because of their history, known or not known. They're treasures. Somebody might have been wearing that watch during a war, or in a courtroom, or driving cross-country, or raising six kids. Magnificent. For the buyer buying for personal use, make sure the watch fits you, goes with the way you dress, the way you come across. Very important. Thanks again!!
Summer is almost here! It's so good to see you and Ernie out enjoying the warm spring air and sunshine. Excellent video, information, and delivery, as always!
I've learnt tons with your videos. Thanks for sharing your knowledge, your passion and your your honesty.
Blessed is the man who knows how to fix and restore old broken vintage watches
soon as i seen that speedmaster i hit like , beauty that is
The Urban Gentry - What are some of your recommended sites/reputable sellers for buying used a Omega, Rolex, Breitling, Tudor etc?
TGV thank you for providing another video filled with such much knowledge you really amaze me and have increased my wisdom on this subject 10 fold, excellent job !!!
Hi TGV, watching The Urban Gentry really made me into watches, I have an old Seiko that my Dad got from his uncle when he was getting into Highschool (1974) and also just recently bought a vintage 1984 Seiko Digital LCD watch, really like your videos especially those ones about Seiko, all the best.
Thanks a lot Tristano, for sharing your wisdom!👍 I am very close to making my first vintage purchase. It’s also and expensive watch for me, so I’m trying to do all the things you suggested including a lot of online research. The videos you’ve done where are you go through some eBay and Chronos24 postings have helped a great deal. I came back to revisit this particular video to make sure I had followed your list of suggestions, and I have! 🧐 So I am really ready to take the plunge. I’ll let you know how it turns out if I pull the trigger!😊
I was stalking eBay for a limited piece and found a seller who was relatively new with 200 feedback all positive. I was still suspicious and kept asking her questions. In the end, it was a legit buy but not before I researched the serial number, the contents of the package etc. very good points TGV, hope this helps people in their next purchases!
+Shawn T Excellent comment Shawn, you handled it masterfully and got results!
Thank you for sharing that.
Best regards,
TGV
Hi , you were talking about researching the serial number , is that using the internet? The only small help I got was with getting a idea of the year of the watch (it was an Omega) any advice appreciated , thank you Shawn
This is a great informative video, it should be highlighted & put out again. Congratulations on ur new job TGV & glad ur still making quality videos on utube , a pleasure to watch - no pun intended lol
Good morning, I love your videos and I am a big fan. I am French and currently living in Texas but raise in Italy ;) and I love watches.
Thank you.
+Victor Colubriale Wow, that's a really interesting mix of cultures and places! Glad to have you with us and thank you for the kind words, always appreciated.
Best regards,
TGV
Who's a reputable pre owned rolex omega or panerai seller in the uk. It's my 50th so yep extremely important. My new hobby has just gone into overdrive..love it!
Very well thought out Governor, much love from Poland
+Kuba Kardaś Thank you Kuba!
Best regards,
TGV
Awesome video! Shopping for vintage pieces is one of my favorite parts of the hobby. Like treasure hunting
+Yankee Rider Thank you YR, I agree, its the best part!
Best regards,
TGV
Great great video, TGV. Really helpful. I must say that I prefer Chrono24 more than eBay, but I'm still not so happy when I have to buy from either one of these. As you said, as long as you pay attention you can have fantastic deals.
Thank you very much.
Best regards,
Michele.
I've understood there to be three types of seller on the internet.1. individual2. internet shop3. Real world watch shop, selling on the net. This could be through an auction site, or a dedicated website.The trustworthiness and hence the price will increase as you go from 1-3.
Thank you Peter, great points.
Best regards,
TGV
Get out of my brain TGV! I'm in the middle of trying to buy a vintage Omega Seamaster and you post this! Thanks for all the tips. They are very helpful. Love the channel.
+Matthew Leach LOL Thank you Matthew, glad I could help. Happy hunting,
Best regards,
TGV
I could not have put this better myself. This is the perfect, concise list of things to do to go about buying a used or vintage piece. Well Done Tristano. This is such a valuable resource video I feel. Keep up the great work my friend.
+ianmedium Thank you so much Ian, your compliment is the highest honour.
Best regards,
TGV
Here is my top tip . Don't buy watches from India . I am warning you.
LOL, Thank you,
I only buy from Germany, Italy, France, Japan, UK, Canada and the USA ;-)
Best regards,
TGV
I’m glad I found this, I was bidding on watches from India. Thank you
Good tip! I prefer buying within the EU to avoid paying VAT on top of the price and shipping.
Why???
@@sarahconner9433 99% of watches from India are what we call "franken-watches". Save your money and stay away from watches in that area.
Good tips TGV as always, I totally agree it is best to pay a little more and purchase from a reputable dealer. Cheers.
+Bob FromBrisbane Indeed! Cant go wrong.
Thank you Bob,
Best regards,
TGV
I look to dealers first, but also enjoy looking through the compiled private sales on watch recon. I've burned countless hours looking at both types of sources. Thank God my wife is tolerant of my hobbies! Great video, as usual. Best-David
+Rocky Mountain DT LOL, very true about tolerant wives! ;-)
Thanks David.
Best regards,
TGV
Hi TGV,
I've watched a good few of your videos now, I find you to be informative, fun, interesting and extremely kind and fair. You clearly put a lot of time and effort in to your videos and I can assure it's not wasted. I'm excited to be buying my first automatic watch imminently so thank you very much for your work, please keep it up!
Cheers,
Rob.
+Rob Thank you Rob, very kind of you to say, makes my day to hear that.
Best regards,
TGV
GOOD ONE!
Bought my GSHOCK RISEMAN over eBay - feedback everything was 100%. Got the watch with all papers and guarantee ....
Very helpful tips....TGV
=)
+Ante Samarzija a MAN's world Thank you Ante, love the Riseman!
Best regards,
TGV
Hey have you checked out catawiki, it's where i've been buying my watches for awhile now. Their auction system is really good.
just wanted to say...THANK YOU for introducing me to wrist candy. I bought my first n.a.t.o. strap.
its a blue with double white stripes, and I put it on a Timex expedition scout, blue face, white digits, silver case.
its only a $40 watch, but it looks like a million bucks.
Love your channel, sir.
+Joe Joe So glad to hear! :D
Enjoy.
Thank you,
Best regards,
TGV
Another very important and timeless video, especially since my city Jakarta is on lockdown again...cheers for that
Top class act TGV. I was looking for this as i am considering to start looking at ebay or maybe amazon to my next purchases. Until now ive used chrono and have been satisfied.
In 6-7 months of watching your videos, I've bought 8 watches and sold 3 watches, and gift away 1 watch. Finally, you are talking about buying used watches.
+Dylan Liu Thanks for watching, this is actually the third time I have talked about this subject.
Best regards,
TGV
+The Urban Gentry many youtubers make lots and lots on videos on the same subject. It's normally for new followers to catch up and for new development and stories on the subject. Gotta keep up the grind! You will get there.
+The Urban Gentry many youtubers make lots and lots on videos on the same subject. It's normally for new followers to catch up and for new development and stories on the subject. Gotta keep up the grind! You will get there.
I forgot how much I loved this channel
Wonderful advice, Tristano. As you know from my posts to the Watch Club, I've been on the hunt for vintage watches for months. Indeed, I've learned a lot over that time. Some watches turned out to be of lesser quality than their sellers had described them to be, while others were spot on.
A tip I can offer anyone looking for vintage (or a new watch for that matter) is to buy something that interests you and brings you joy (like you said in your video) and NOT because it's simply vintage and selling for a great price. If it meets both criteria, then fantastic! I wish I had been more discerning with my earlier purchases, but the silver lining is that I got to know more about what to look for in a used watch and to define my tastes for them.
+Ken Cooper Thank you Ken, so glad you find the group useful. Thanks for sharing your thoughts, it was good to know you agree.
Best regards,
TGV
I totally agree, I would spend more to buy at a reputable dealer. It's worth the extra.
+Robert Dickson Thank you Robert.
Best regards,
TGV
I agree resale is not the most important. I got tired, however, of my first 2 watches and wanted to get what I consider a real luxury watch so I sold both and was able to make a few hundred on each. It was enough to take away the sting of buying the used luxury piece. I consider it a win that I didn't lose money on my first two but that was only because I got them on the grey market.
Just had a not so good event through a dealer on Chrono24 purchasing a JLC. When I checked address it turned out to be a parking garage. In addition, there was that I just don't feel comfortable with this. Really wanted the watch but buy with your head and not your heart especially in this type of circumstance. Even reading reviews on the site how can you be sure they are legit.... I don't know if I can ever feel comfortable purchasing this way.
Thanks for the great advice Tristano! Been thinking of getting a used vintage watch and trying to filter out the good vendors and choosing the best watch of course. Let the hunt continue!
+Brian Mifsud Thank you Brian,
Happy hunting, as my other good friend Brian said in the comments earlier, the thrill of hunt is the best part! ;-)
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TGV
how I wish you would be there as my advisor when I buy my first Rolex
Thank you, I would love to help!
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TGV
+The Urban Gentry No jokes, when the time (no pun intended) is there ill pay you for doing research and advise me on which brand, model, seller/dealer etc. Ill be contacting you in the near future!
yes some “due diligence“ on the dealer is mandatory.
and informations concerning type of dial, the writings and overall look are important.
i am looking for some day date piece for some months now and so far never found a no risk deal....
+Moose 9144 Thank you, hang in there my friend, one will turn up.
Happy hunting,
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TGV, Have had some good luck buying Vintage pieces on eBay. The one time that I was burned was with a pompous seller who stated that I could have the vintage piece serviced by my jeweler due to the watch malfunction and send him the receipt. The seller strung me out until the feedback time expired. I was" had" and never was reimbursed. Lesson learned!! 👍🍷
+James Luciani How terribly annoying.
Thank you James for sharing that., good lesson to share.
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TGV
Cool advise :) I once got a frankenstein from a pawn shop!
As always, great information. Love the new intro.
+Mark Waldman Thank you again Mark,
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I got stocks and exchange traded funds for investments ..You'll do far better that way than using time pieces..The quartely dividends from these investments allow the finances to buy time pieces for Pleasure.. Much more fun to play the game that way in my eyes..
+Trevor Bohnsack Trevor, you are a smart man indeed! Excellent point.
Enjoy it my friend!
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TGV
TGV, thank you for your videos..I do enjoy watching them! I recently got into watches and only have a Hamilton Khaki Auto and Seagull 1963, but I'm enjoying them! Thanks again, from East Tennessee, near Dollywood!
+Matthew Lawson Thank you Matthew, great choices btw, the Hammy is a classic and I am dying to review the Seagull!
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TGV
+The Urban Gentry Thank you for the response! Much appreciated! I have had the Seagull for a week....so far so good! Beautiful watch. I am a college professor who teaches Speech class and I plan to use it to time student speeches!
Ciao TGV. I do totally agree with your list. Independently by the value of the watch, the most important thing is the reputation of the seller. This, to me, means also the service rendered after the sale in case of repair or whatever is necessary! The communication (written or by phone, for example) helps to establish a relationship of mutual trust. Fortunately, I found a great honest and professional seller here in Italy when I bought my Hamilton Jazzmaster Seaview Chrono. Ciao e grazie per i tuoi video! Diego
+Diego Maraffio Thank you Diego, so glad you agree. Very good point about "mutual trust". Nice one.
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Excellent video, Tristano. Clear, useful,...
Here's my positive vote. Keep on sharing your passion. I feel passion too about some kind of watches. I imagine automatic watches, manual watches like hearts. (in opposition to quartz watches, a personal idea)
Best wishes from Salamanca, SPAIN!!!. Buonasera, good afternoon.
+carlos002nz Thank you Carlos, glad you find it useful, happy hunting!
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TGV
Hi TGV, very helpful video! thank you. I have only ever bought new watches and would like to start buying used or vintage. I only buy for my personal pleasure. Would you consider doing a tutorial type video, where you buy a used or vintage piece on video. You could take us through all the steps this entails, like research, purchasing, and testing. Maybe a three or four part series?
+Tom Knox Hi Tom, thats a great idea, I will certainly follow up with a "tutorial" video. Maybe go through step by step on buying a piece myself and recommend some seller.
Thank you, good thinking,
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TGV
Well done tgv,this is an ideal video for anyone who starting to get the watch collecting bug ,I do feel as you mentioned research the brand of watch you want look at the pros and cons and don't buy until you 100% happy,I have to say one of the best forms of information is the urban gentry Facebook page it's always great to ask the watch community there thoughts on certain brands.thank.brizzy
+Brizzy 91270 EXCELELTN point about being "100% happy" and very true about the Facebook group, I should of mentioned it, so much expertise there! Thank you Brizzy, nice one.
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What are your thoughts on purchasing thru Pawn Shops? I've seen a few pieces in various shops lately at pretty reasonable prices, with boxes and papers. However, something with these shops doesn't sit right with me. Maybe it's the fact that these watches are here because the previous owner fell on hard times and needed money quickly.
Morally, is it ok? Have you or anyone else got opinions or experience of this?
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Ali
really like the video:) . Personally I think research the piece and, the brand as well as the seller are the most important part. Keep up the good work
Great tips ! I'm thinking of buying a vintage seamaster. Anyway great video and I look forward to the next one !
+Max Cattel Thank you Max, happy hunting!
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Speedmaster...My dream watch...Today's find Seiko Arnie 558-5009. $45....Best find 1947 Patek Philippe $15 sold it for $3000 ...I always say Time is Money
Hi! Looking to pick up a vintage! do you know if all reviews on chrono24 are posted by verified users? Or could they be faked?
Thanks so much. I am actually in the process of negotiating with a dealer on Chrono24 for a pre-owned Speedmaster Reduced listed as "service completed May 2017". The only point on your checklist that I am lacking is the the dealr's lack of selling history, (member since 2016 with only 7 verified transactions... no listed feedback). He has responded quickly thus far to my inquiries, and sounds professional. I am awaiting further photos that I requested as well as more details regarding the servicing. In terms of selling history, although I would be happier if he were a dealer with a long and trusted reputation, I am inclined to believe that everyone has to start somewhere. Am I being naive in this situation?
Thank you TGV.!! This is good information.!
“Don’t go jet skiing with it.” 😂😂😂
Buy the dial, and buy the seller. My two best pieces of advice. If you're gonna buy a piece with replacement parts at the very least the watch should have an original dial in good condition. The dial is what you're going to look at most. Also prefer forthcoming sellers with good reputation. I've sold for less by being completely honest but in the long run it's made it much easier for me to sell watches and I've established numerous reliable relationships with dealers and collectors.
+Matt P Very good point.
Thank you for sharing that.
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TGV
Governor! Seiko SARB is definitely valued in the Facebook community...would you ever do a comparison to the SDGM...similar movement but different build....good stuff!
+Strfry Thank you, its a classic in the making. LOVE that watch.
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I want to buy five watches from epay but how do I know if they are original or not?
Absolutely awesome episode as always! Love your dog also!
Wow! I can't remember when was the last time I saw that beautiful bookshelf on your videos :P thanks a lot for the tips! Very useful, also thanks for the good work! Cheers!!!
+hellotabasco Haha, you must of been watching since the very early days! Means a lot to me to still have you with us.
Thank you my friend,
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TGV
+The Urban Gentry yes! I've been watching your videos for almost 2 years lol :) keep the good work! Cheers!!!
Nice video and great advice. Once I get my used watches in hand I take them to my local, trusted watchmaker. I have them tested for amplitude and water proof tight seals. They've helped me identify some small broken bits that occurred during shipping but didn't prevent the watch from working so I may have never known to have it checked. They've even been able to identify if the watch had genuine or aftermarket Rolex lubricants used. Isn't that crazy? My local watch maker is awesome and only opens watches in a room with negative pressure to mitigate dust and debris from entering the case. Thanks TGV!
tDS
+TheDutchSandwich tDS! Always glad to hear from you.
Your watchmaker sound fantastic, thanks for sharing that.
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The only watch in our house that was bought used was my wife's Cartier Tank Francais. I found it on eBay from a seller not too far from us. Popped down to see the watch and got it for a steal. It was 12 years old and never been polished plus box a papers including original receipt. Got it for £1600 and these are £4200 new! Had it serviced a couple of months later including a polish and it came back indistinguishable from new. Right result!
+Audittr2108 Nice one,
Thanks for sharing
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Prego!
Love the speedy on the leather 👌 can't wait to get mine from ColeRab, thanks for introducing me to them.
+Tom Williams I am sure you will love it, catgut more classy that that combo!
A pleasure Tom, hope you are well old chap.
Thank you
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TGV
Have you tried HMT watches from India? Lots of fun colors in vintage sixed cases, and at frighteningly reasonable prices!
I buy for pleasure and Value. VERY HIGH END Pieces I prefer AD’s or Guys Like You I’ve learned to trust! New Watches Value for Price! I would prefer to pay more to a reputable dealer. There are some great dealers, but there are some Crooks!
I love your videos. Great style and information. You've inspired me to look for vintage watches on ebay. I found dirt-cheap Fortis watches and feel like I'm missing something. I mean we're talking Timex prices. What is going on? Did Fortis have different markets they catered to? Not much online info. Hoping you have some insight. Thanks.
Recently read a ton of bad reviews and disappointing comments about Chrono24 , and now I'm downright concerned about any watch I take a look at there...
Very good video man, really important points here. I've been pretty active on ebay this year hahahaa but always taking good attention to the reputation of the seller. A tip of mine would be always trying to ask as many question as possible to the seller, I really value this contact and I think is a good chance to be sure you are treating with a respectable person.
Best regards!!
+João Vitor Amaral Silva Thank you Joao, could not agree more you your tip.
Happy hunting my friend, btw, did you ever find that Bulgari you were lusting after?
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TGV
The Urban Gentry They are actually not that hard to find, but are way out of my price range right now. I have an uncle that has one, altough I am not 100% sure its original...the looks of that watch makes me almost drool!!
Hi tgv fantastic vid my friend, thank you for you wealth of knowledge, experience, and help,ever the gentleman, onwards and upwards, all the best my friend Ryan.
+Ryan Mead Thank you Ryan! :D
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TGV
Excellent work on the channel and thank you for promoting the watch collecting hobby! Do you have any tips on replacing straps? I have a ceramic sub and would love to see it on different strap but would hate to nick the case. Maybe you could demonstrate on a future video?
+tylerdred Thank you so much :D
Check out the video "changing strap guide", just search for it in the archives ;-)
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TGV
Wow, some useful advise! Hopeful I will be able to put some of that into practice!
Cheers
+Ted Jenks Glad I could help, good luck and happy hunting!
Thank you
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TGV
Hi TGV - All good points. Thanks for the informative video. Regards and Cheers!
+John Viano Thank you John!
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I've been very hesitant buying online because of fraud even on Chrono24 has had fakes being sold... still
what about finding the value of vintage watches? inherited a 130yr old pocket watch and a 80yr old wrist watch
how about brands like Everite , Excalibur??? they seems to be great looking yet relatively inexpensive , i think are swiss made watches but in-house brands are created by British jewellery brand H Samuel in the 50s to 70s .
Only problem with the BBB is that you can buy your rating
what is the intro song? it is just beautiful.
ok, so you have the watch - right now for me using a seagull 1963 for the moment. The pre owned listing ie @ ebay, had more than one option at different price points. By what criteria are the watches to be evaluated, value @ price point etc. Thanks
Where would be the better places to look for used watches, vintage, collectibles etc?? I come across stuff regularly and NOW you got me all worked up for watches🙈
For some reason I’ve put my cheapy on few days ago.. never wear watch🤔
Anyways...
Also What you think of the Nixon Regulus for a beater?
Love your channel and love your dog!
For an advertized mint condition chronograph , I asked if chronograph is working. Seller replied , "I didn't see."
Is there a collectors age standard for "vintage: watch. The closest thing I have is a Omega Constellation with a tuning fork in it.
The thing about the BBB is you have to be a member, and usually only people with good business ethics sign up.
BBB is fake bullshit fraud extorsion racket just like Yelp....
I was wondering if it is a good idea if i should buy an hundred dollar rolex on a pre-owned website.
I've done some research and it does look like a real rolex.
Should i make the deal or is it a trick?
Very good advice when buying on ebay. I'm no expert but when I looked at the Tag model type I own on ebay they all looked like copies. Buyers beware.
Great tips man! Was wondering if you could recommend a reliable eBay seller to a newbie?
Love the outfit and watch combo Tristano!! :D
Best,
Matt.
+Matt H Thank you Matt! :D
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TGV
Hi Tristano, good advice. It is a headache finding a good seller with a good price these days. I get tempted but back down in the last moment. I would rather save up and buy new from an AD if the watch is important to me.
+Firas Fair enough and very understandable. Good point and one that should be considered.
Thank you
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You're not wearing a Nato?! What is the world coming to?!!!
+Roelf van der Merwe LOL
Thank you,
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TGV
Excellent advise Tristano. My number one and your number one are pretty much the same - buy the seller. If I'm looking at a watch for sale on a forum such as WUS I'll check out the seller's history of posts - how many, how active... You can get a good feel for a person by this. Another point - photos. If in doubt ask for more. A tip for those selling, if you want my attention post lots of nice photos. As a buyer that's the first thing I look at. Ciao, John
+John Price Thank you John, "Another point - photos. If in doubt ask for more" spot on.
Cant agree more.
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Great advice: thanks for sharing the know. Rob in Mexico :)
Please TGV, how can I get hold of the Guitar song in the intro? I enjoy it immensely! Love your videos! Best wishes from Vienna, Austria, yours truly Daniel
+Daniel Wagner Thank you Daniel, it is Tom Waits, the name of the song I forget but it is in the free mixtape I put fro download last week in the 2 year anniversary video, the link is in the description, enjoy!
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Are the amazon "certified pre-owned" watches secure?
i would really appreciate if somebody gave me some answers about some vintage watches recently i saw in Austria some vintage pieces from Zenith : Zenith Vintage Cal.2541 from 1960 , Zenith Movado Sporto 28800 Cal.2562 and ZENITH Respirator for around 200-300 Euros would they be a good purchase or not ?
Hello, did you buy your FOIS in OMEGA boutique or online? Great video;)
Nice video, but perhaps at some point you could offer your opinion on purchasing used timepieces from watch forums etc.
+Cadillac Smith Good point, can you believe it? I never bought on a watch forum, so I cant honestly say.
Where would you recommend I start?
Thank you,
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Then that would explain why you wouldn't have mentioned it! LoL.....
Watchuseek seems like a good forum. The same would apply as eBay. You'd want to make sure the individual is a long time forum member, with a lot of positive interactions etc...
any advice or experience with crown and caliber? looking to purchase my omega dive watch.