If he’s never made an ignition or flame without the aid of a “cut shot”, then he’s dishonest. Trying 50 times for an ignition and only showing you the 51st successful attempt is NOT deceitful. Letting you believe that the ignition happened so quickly and easily IS deceitful. He should have at least annotated the struggles and failures that came before. Most of what I saw, 10 years ago, when I started learning fire techniques was people getting hand and bow drill embers with little to no problems at all. It was the same with the flint and steel and ferro rod techniques. It made me seriously start to doubt myself. I was starting to think, “I just must not have what It takes to hand or bow drill”. How many beginners like myself gave up trying to learn these skills just because an “expert’s” ego was too fragile to be honest. It kind of riles me up even to this day. Please follow the LINKs below and SUBSCRIBE. Thank You! Ferro Rod Playlist th-cam.com/play/PLkoXX8XsMW3lI6k8TH1Bljf57Yvp9K1WD.html Flint And Steel Playlist th-cam.com/play/PLkoXX8XsMW3mFf5FgLtam1aDmXmqQQice.html
Mr. West I have learned all my fire making techniques from you. I have enjoyed it and you have opened up a whole New World to me. I don’t know how long it’s been since I’ve started a fire with an actual lighter. I am so thankful that I clicked onto your channel one day. It was the best thing I’ve ever done.
The flames from your stove tell me you're honest. No rapid changes in height while you're working with something else. You'll say when a scene is cut or speeded up. You ask me to find an honest firemaker? That's why I'm here, I did. Thanks David
This is true. I have thought I was doing something wrong when I didn’t get it the first time. However, I have learned which punk wood is better for making tinder this way.
I like how patient you show the skills and you are not hawking merchandise verbatim. My favorite is that you are not afraid to express your love and faith in Jesus.
I really enjoy this practice. It's my hobby... I know how you feel. I had to stop watching the 2 biggest bushcraft infomercial-ists out there. lol!... I love Jesus, indeed!
Hi Mr. West, we need people like you, to keep TH-camrs honest! Thank you so much for sharing your experience and knowledge! Loving your channel, be well my friend!!👍🏽💯❤️
I had another great use for the Stanley 10 - 049 today. I used it to scrape the rust off the terminals of a car battery today. I swear, I've used it every day since I bought it.
A common activity at muzzleloader rendezvous was a firemaking competition with flint and steel. I never got to go to many, and I don't hear about many rendezvous any more. I wish there were more! Practicing the old ways was a good way to learn both skills and history. Some good craftsmen developed from the hobby also.
I'm not sure if you're the best fire maker but your definitely the best learn from you explain every thing so clearly don't miss a one thing of your video
Can’t do it. You’re the only one I watch. You also convinced me about bayite. On a sort of but not exactly related note…if I see one more Swedish torch I’m gonna run off screaming into the night.
i agree. many people claim bowdrill is easy because they don't understand actually how difficult it is. basically a big pile of variables. imho the key to success is to understand the theory first (fire triangle, function of each part, wood types, etc, and the actual point of bow drill), because then you can avoid/fix problems/adapt better. this is why i've started my channel. there are a lot of misconceptions, bad tendencies out there about friction fire, bushcraft, etc.
David, you do it properly and still make it look easy. No fake fire making here, we’ve seen you sweat through plenty of fire videos, especially bow drilling in the heat.
It is, now that you are teaching it. I really hope to feel better this fall/winter and get back to practice bow drill until I get a fire. I came close but didn’t succeed. So far all I have done is flint and steel on char cloth, made char cloth, fresnel lens fire. I know, that is pitiful considering the 100’s of your videos I have seen and enjoyed since the 2020 pandemic. Keep at it David, Boys/Men never get tired of playing with fire, lol.
Sometimes I get a fire pretty quick, other times it doesn't want to burn at all. I do some woodworking and have shavings from handplanes. When dry, those shavings go up in a hurry, but other times they seem to soak up humidity and don't burn all that well.
Usually, it takes me around 10 ferrorod strikes to get a flame. I jokingly type "First time!" Every time, even though I clearly show it took many strikes. Fire making often is a struggle. If you struggle, keep putting effort into the craft, especially in moderate to tough conditions it is mandatory to get a sustainable fire going.
I made 3 fires yesterday using charred punk wood and oak leaves and fero rod,, made some more charred punk wood also,, it was therapeutic to say the least, it was fun.
How about traditional pioneer tenderbox with charred punkwood and flint & steel. Or ashed tender pot to carry coals for next fire, maybe diy lucifer Sulphur matches
Corporal's Corner, Donny Dust, and Woodsboundoutdoors are a few I watch that do a decent enough job showing, or at the least will state how long it took them, different methods that can be used to start a fire.
Could grinding the broken pieces up be an option? Wouldn't have to bother with scraping the rod to get some off, you'd already have some ready to go. Little bag of that wouldn't be a bad addition to a kit either.
Thanks Dave. I find if I crush the charred punk wood, and add a chunk or two uncrushed, I get a better ignition. But, yes, sometimes, it just takes a bit more patience, due to dampness, or just plain bad luck. Charred cat tail fluff works, but only if the atmospheric moisture is very low, otherwise, it is stubborn.
Try some charred dead mullein leaves. Great stuff. The pith from inside of mullein stalks sliced thinly will take a spark without being charred. Mullein is my friend.
You mean all the youtube bushcrafters that show the beginnings of a bow drill and then immediately cut over to a blazing fire might not reflect real effort? 🤣
Yes. And it’s wrong to stop bow drilling long enough to see that that the dust pile is smoking? but then, before we can tell if it’s just steaming or actually ignited, the scene cuts away to the last breath that blows the tinder bundle into flames.
"bushcraft" is about 99% nonsense anyway, guys hacking down trees and building weird crappy log cabins on land they don't own is not a thing and never was
i call it bushcraft for views. it's about money and not bushcraft. traditional bushcraft has nothing to with building shelters all the time, then whipping out a cast iron pan and cook a gourmet steak. however, psychologically it works for the viewer, they want to watch the entire thing, how things are made. i find those videos very harmful to the essence of bushcraft because laymen will have a distorted view of it.
If he’s never made an ignition or flame without the aid of a “cut shot”, then he’s dishonest. Trying 50 times for an ignition and only showing you the 51st successful attempt is NOT deceitful. Letting you believe that the ignition happened so quickly and easily IS deceitful. He should have at least annotated the struggles and failures that came before.
Most of what I saw, 10 years ago, when I started learning fire techniques was people getting hand and bow drill embers with little to no problems at all. It was the same with the flint and steel and ferro rod techniques. It made me seriously start to doubt myself. I was starting to think, “I just must not have what It takes to hand or bow drill”.
How many beginners like myself gave up trying to learn these skills just because an “expert’s” ego was too fragile to be honest. It kind of riles me up even to this day.
Please follow the LINKs below and SUBSCRIBE. Thank You!
Ferro Rod Playlist
th-cam.com/play/PLkoXX8XsMW3lI6k8TH1Bljf57Yvp9K1WD.html
Flint And Steel Playlist
th-cam.com/play/PLkoXX8XsMW3mFf5FgLtam1aDmXmqQQice.html
Mr. West I have learned all my fire making techniques from you. I have enjoyed it and you have opened up a whole New World to me. I don’t know how long it’s been since I’ve started a fire with an actual lighter. I am so thankful that I clicked onto your channel one day. It was the best thing I’ve ever done.
Very kind of you . TY!
The flames from your stove tell me you're honest. No rapid changes in height while you're working with something else. You'll say when a scene is cut or speeded up.
You ask me to find an honest firemaker? That's why I'm here, I did.
Thanks David
Thanks Merv. I appreciate it!
Hi David, I say it is you, your dedication to making fire's is contagious in a good way 😃😃👍
Thanks Jose! 👍
This is true. I have thought I was doing something wrong when I didn’t get it the first time. However, I have learned which punk wood is better for making tinder this way.
I like how patient you show the skills and you are not hawking merchandise verbatim. My favorite is that you are not afraid to express your love and faith in Jesus.
I really enjoy this practice. It's my hobby... I know how you feel. I had to stop watching the 2 biggest bushcraft infomercial-ists out there. lol!... I love Jesus, indeed!
Hi David! This channel has been my fire making school. Thanks!
You have a burning desire to learn.
Har Har LOL
Hi Mr. West, we need people like you, to keep TH-camrs honest! Thank you so much for sharing your experience and knowledge! Loving your channel, be well my friend!!👍🏽💯❤️
You are very welcome
Wearing the black shirt while using the flint and steel is a huge plus for my eyes.
Gotta have a dark background to video sparks, flames, and smoke.
I had another great use for the Stanley 10 - 049 today. I used it to scrape the rust off the terminals of a car battery today.
I swear, I've used it every day since I bought it.
I use it everyday too.
A common activity at muzzleloader rendezvous was a firemaking competition with flint and steel. I never got to go to many, and I don't hear about many rendezvous any more. I wish there were more! Practicing the old ways was a good way to learn both skills and history. Some good craftsmen developed from the hobby also.
I'm not sure if you're the best fire maker but your definitely the best learn from you explain every thing so clearly don't miss a one thing of your video
Dalem Gumino is the best.
@@DavidWestBgood2ppl He has a LOT of subs, but has never shown up on my feed before. Youtub is STRANGE!
@DavidWestBgood2ppl you beat me to it. Dalem is the best I've ever seen.
That's because he has it all... great physical strength, flexibility, smart, creative, etc.
Rob Evans. He admits all of his errors and mistakes.
Can’t do it. You’re the only one I watch. You also convinced me about bayite. On a sort of but not exactly related note…if I see one more Swedish torch I’m gonna run off screaming into the night.
LOL!
i agree. many people claim bowdrill is easy because they don't understand actually how difficult it is. basically a big pile of variables. imho the key to success is to understand the theory first (fire triangle, function of each part, wood types, etc, and the actual point of bow drill), because then you can avoid/fix problems/adapt better.
this is why i've started my channel. there are a lot of misconceptions, bad tendencies out there about friction fire, bushcraft, etc.
I'll come check you out at some point.
David, you do it properly and still make it look easy. No fake fire making here, we’ve seen you sweat through plenty of fire videos, especially bow drilling in the heat.
It's still a fun hobby, TY!
It is, now that you are teaching it. I really hope to feel better this fall/winter and get back to practice bow drill until I get a fire. I came close but didn’t succeed. So far all I have done is flint and steel on char cloth, made char cloth, fresnel lens fire. I know, that is pitiful considering the 100’s of your videos I have seen and enjoyed since the 2020 pandemic. Keep at it David, Boys/Men never get tired of playing with fire, lol.
Thank you, Jerry!
Fire master at work.👍
Sometimes I get a fire pretty quick, other times it doesn't want to burn at all. I do some woodworking and have shavings from handplanes. When dry, those shavings go up in a hurry, but other times they seem to soak up humidity and don't burn all that well.
Usually, it takes me around 10 ferrorod strikes to get a flame.
I jokingly type "First time!" Every time, even though I clearly show it took many strikes.
Fire making often is a struggle. If you struggle, keep putting effort into the craft, especially in moderate to tough conditions it is mandatory to get a sustainable fire going.
The less than ideal conditions are humbling but valuable.
Ive learnt all i know from you sir.
Am I seriously the first person to comment on Dave's latest video? Yes. Yes, I am! Good things just keep on happening to me.
And thank you for commenting!
I like your technique of laying the char cloth flat on the flint then striking it with the steel.
I made 3 fires yesterday using charred punk wood and oak leaves and fero rod,, made some more charred punk wood also,, it was therapeutic to say the least, it was fun.
A lotta fun.
You're the king of fire making! The only other channel that I really think is good and not pretentious is 'Corporals Corner'. 👍😎
Thanks again David, fascinating stuff.
Great video Mr west I appreciate you sharing 👍👌🔥
Corporals Corner first time Everytime. 😂kidding
Good demonstration David, thanks for sharing, YAH bless !
Very welcome
How about traditional pioneer tenderbox with charred punkwood and flint & steel. Or ashed tender pot to carry coals for next fire, maybe diy lucifer Sulphur matches
GREat
Corporal's Corner, Donny Dust, and Woodsboundoutdoors are a few I watch that do a decent enough job showing, or at the least will state how long it took them, different methods that can be used to start a fire.
Look how close the cuts are to the one strike ignites, no continuity between embers to flame, etc. Never miss or even have a near miss in many years.
What do you do with the fire rod, if it breaks? Is it possible to remelt those pieces under an inert atmosphere or do something else with them ?
Idk, I replace mine.
they cost about 2 bucks
Could grinding the broken pieces up be an option? Wouldn't have to bother with scraping the rod to get some off, you'd already have some ready to go. Little bag of that wouldn't be a bad addition to a kit either.
You'd need heat to ignite it.
Thanks Dave. I find if I crush the charred punk wood, and add a chunk or two uncrushed, I get a better ignition. But, yes, sometimes, it just takes a bit more patience, due to dampness, or just plain bad luck. Charred cat tail fluff works, but only if the atmospheric moisture is very low, otherwise, it is stubborn.
I don’t crush it but I do gently break it across the grain.
Try some charred dead mullein leaves. Great stuff. The pith from inside of mullein stalks sliced thinly will take a spark without being charred. Mullein is my friend.
I've used it.
I like to think I'm an honest firemaker, feel free to check 🙂
I've seen you around. I like your style.
@@DavidWestBgood2ppl thanks David, much appreciated!
You mean all the youtube bushcrafters that show the beginnings of a bow drill and then immediately cut over to a blazing fire might not reflect real effort? 🤣
Yes. And it’s wrong to stop bow drilling long enough to see that that the dust pile is smoking? but then, before we can tell if it’s just steaming or actually ignited, the scene cuts away to the last breath that blows the tinder bundle into flames.
"bushcraft" is about 99% nonsense anyway, guys hacking down trees and building weird crappy log cabins on land they don't own is not a thing and never was
i call it bushcraft for views. it's about money and not bushcraft. traditional bushcraft has nothing to with building shelters all the time, then whipping out a cast iron pan and cook a gourmet steak. however, psychologically it works for the viewer, they want to watch the entire thing, how things are made.
i find those videos very harmful to the essence of bushcraft because laymen will have a distorted view of it.
Yes, it's about money. They've become infomercials.
Yes he uses a Bic lighter can he make fire other ways yes but ... uses tryed and true method corprals corner