Just like Jeff Gordon said at Sonoma, after wrecking half the field, Nascar has a point system that forces drivers to be aggressive. A dnf doesn't hurt as bad as it used to but a win means everything!
Denny seems to be like Jekyll and Hyde. Get him out on the track and it's on. Have him in a interview like this he's more tame. I'm looking forward to him just being a cup owner.
Absolutely. Denny, after having time to cool down after a race, is a great race commentator. Denny right out of the car? Denny could NO wrong whatever and the entire rest of the field is at fault! LOL
Denny is an amazing person. Like many athletes, he has his personality when on the track. Remember, we see these guys as soon as they get off the track and running 500 miles. But I can tell you this. My best friend has a child that's special needs. She was a HUGE fan of a Nascar driver. They were able to get a garage pass and they spent the entire weekend at Darlington. When her favorite driver came walking by, she stared waving and trying to say hi. Her parents were waving right at him. He wasn't more than six feet away and ignored him. She was crying. a little later after trying to calm her down, Denny Hamlin came walking by. Not only did he stop, he told her everything was going to be okay. He put his arm around her and gave her a hug. Signed and took a picture. Taking a few minutes out of his day, changed her entire weekend. Her father (who hated Hamlin as a driver) just broke down as you might imagine. My point of that story is we judge these guys based on what they do on the track and the few interviews right after they get out of the car.
I just don't understand why NASCAR never penalize Logano for knocking people out of the way to improve his position. He's done it at least 5 times and NASCAR always turn a blind eye to it. He definitely should've been penalized at Kansas in 2015, Darlington and Indy this year
@@dcaseng so when is that gonna happen? Dude has been aggressive his entire Cup career. You folks say this all the time and it never happens nor will it ever happen.
Mind-boggling that NASCAR doesn't have a firm rules package about this type of thing. F1, IMSA, Indy, WEC all have very clear rules about run-offs and access roads.
5:45 - 6:05 Usually I don't agree with a lot of what Denny says, but this time he's talking sense. Especially to point out the 22 and the 2 in turn 1. The 22 on the restart with 3 to go just piled it straight into turn 1 which ended up cleaning Kyle Busch and the 14 and the 23 out, and the 2 on the GWC restart just drilled Suarez into 1 which shunted Suarez into Blaney and AJ and led to the 12 getting spun. Just reckless driving, definitely looked bad for NASCAR. Ross Chastain taking the access road imo was a smart move, he was on the outside of 4 wide and he knew he was gonna get cleaned out if he tried to make turn 1, shame it didn't work out but at least he saved that car from further damage. If Ross had gone into turn 1 he was 100% getting shoved into the grass and maybe spun, AJ was to his inside and even he ended up pretty much completely in the grass cause of the #2 shoving Suarez into Blaney and AJ
It's a shame you don't agree with a lot of what he says, because his takes are usually spot on... Most fans just discount what he says as crying because they're still butthurt about Martinsville 2017. Same reason why the fanbase still hates Busch for Richmond 2008.
Denny is actually one of the smartest and makes what should be happening in a language that's understandable to the average fan. His problem is when he's talking about him after a race. He's obviously got a temper and to be fair they stick a microphone in front of these drivers faces the second they get out of their cat after a 500 mile race. Denny is great when he hasn't just gotten out of a racecar
@@tmthylthm I agree with most of the stuff he says about racing with respect, the problem is that he goes out and does things that makes him look like a bit of a hypocrite, that's what makes his comments hard to take seriously sometimes for me, but you have a really good point, quite a good amount of his takes are spot on (like what he said in this video for example). I'm not particularly a Chase fan either lol, I'm kinda neutral on Chase, my issue with Denny mainly is how he conducts himself on the racetrack
The simplest solution would be to move the start finish line for the road course just before turn one yeah you can put some bricks down if you like screw tradition this should be all about safety they should be driving through turn one at 80 mph 2x2
They will never move the starting line from the bricks, this is Indy! But easy to fix with a few gallons of white paint. Just paint a line that funnels the cars two wide to the outside turning into turn one. You can call it the "Logano Line." It shifts the apex entering the first turn much farther to the left and will stop the amateurish dive bombing. Cross the line during the race and it's a stop n go penalty. Cross the line during the last two laps on a restart and it's a 30 second time penalty. For those taking the alternate route just make a stop n go line before the right turn then a second stop n go line at the edge of the track before entering.
1: Make the rules _CLEAR_ 2: Use an IndyCar type of system to assess penalties real-time during the race. _(Meantime later)_ *AND* Another thought, change turn one. Here’s a crazy idea since NASCAR seems to like them so much, use the run off lane on restarts, then use turn one the rest of the time. I don’t know why all road courses have to have a first turn that is almost impossible to get thru on restarts. Contact in open wheel cars is not as forgiving so those guys are usually not as gung-ho as NASCAR drivers have become with this new car. And that may be part of the problem, drivers seem to be more willing to shove right into a crowd knowing the car can take the punishment.
The rule should be a common sense thing... If you go out of bounds and gain time, you get a penalty. If you go out of bounds and lose time, you don't get a penalty. I'm not sure why it's so difficult for the fanbase to understand this.
@@tmthylthm how the hell does a driver know that? You're dead wrong about this. It's completely up to Nascar to set usage protocols around access roads that do not give drivers any advantage. Make them come to a stop, lengthen the road, give a standard 3 second time penalty for usage.
Easiest fix for the Indy road course.... flip it around ! Run it in the same direction as the oval would run. Then turn 1 would the long sweeping turn 14. It's really that simple. I was just doing it both directions on iracing and the laps times came to be pretty much the same thing either direction.
It's the product of many things but the overall playoff system is a big issue. This is what causes the lack of respect as they discussed. Finishing 2-36 doesn't matter anymore.
The same stuff they're complaining about is the same kind of stuff they'll watch highlights of from the '80s and even back especially Earnhardt doing and talk about how great and amazing it was
He'll be huge until he has a family and gets married and has a pile of kids and then his priorities will change probably get his belt wrong three or four times it could wouldn't hurt either a couple concussions here and there something's got to slow him down sooner or later in the meantime you're looking at a future champion
This is why NASCAR needed to do some timing on the bail out road, make it to where you loose too much time to make it a viable option. Could have added a chicane or weave-throughs that would have added time to negate any advantage. Indycar/CART had this issue back in the mid to late 90s and it solved with these features. Thank you NASCAR, I've available to officiate whenever you want/NEED me too.
It used to be stop and go. If you missed the chicane at Watkins Glen it was stop and go. If he had stopped he never would have been in the lead but the issue is he GUNNED it. He intentionally cheated. The dude isn't that smart clearly, we saw that after the race in his post race interview.
NASCAR needs to drop the Indy Road Course.. Each year NASCAR proves they dont know what they're doing on road courses other than Sonoma and Watkins Glen. Bring back the Brickyard 400. Please.
There is such a simple solution to solving this dilemma. Keep the access but add a tight chicane at the end to slow the car down and prevent the driver from advancing his position. The need for this access is essential to try and eliminate some of these wrecks in these tight corners.
NASCAR should make it an option for all with no penalty. I think it would make it very interesting for the fans. That way we can keep the start finish line where it is. Reduce Wrecks, in turn one also. It’s a win-win!
I'm not at all a fan of Denny or Logano, but I appreciate when drivers are honest about situations. They have a good way of putting themselves in the situation of the other driver. (Assuming they aren't wrecked in the process).
The old Bristol races were exciting as a spectator as there were more than 1 car trying to take up a space. What I liked about Turn 1 at Indy was it reminded me of old Bristol and why I use to watch stock car racing. Spectators want more of this in my opinion - not less.
Laughing all the way 🤣 . Yes you pretty much hit the nail on the head . They need full bumpers all the way around , then they could call it a Derby and anything goes .
Cars will then be going through turn 1 there at 80 mph 2x2. Yes it's the brickyard Road course reconstruct some old bricks down and make a new start finish line screw tradition of having only one start finish line
NASCAR should adopt a rule, where if you cause the wreak, like Logano carelessly making a 7th lane and blowing through the field, then you get sent to the back of the field for reckless driving. It's easy to tell, whether something was carelessly done on purpose vs a racing deal, like sure NASCAR wants the drivers to police themselves, but it's contradicting when they get slapped with a fine or points deduction if any retaliation of any kind happens.
They made these cars more durable with better brakes and this is what you're going to see. Pushing it way too far and not caring about moderate contact.
My thought is they need to develop a front end that isn't as strong as the current one. Use it only on road course. Then when you plow into the back of someone you have a better chance of damaging your radiator or aero.
I wish while a issue is debated that they show some video of what the point is that they're trying to make. They are all going off recollection. With footage they would have a better chance of proving their point.
If you watch ,Ross was right ,the car that he was next to him was definitely going through the grass on that turn. He should have done what Bubba did on the restart before he got knock in the grass and went straight.Bubba picked up a lot spots.Bubba didn't get a penalty. According to the rules what he did was legal . Until he made Nascar look stupid . That is when it became illegal.
@@johnhaas2523 He passed more cars than Burton.I think it had to do with timing lines under caution.But I'm not going to watch it again to be a 100% sure.I just wish they were consistent.
The easy solution is move the restart box to be in front of the finish line, the closer you get it to the corner the less this will happen and it's an easy enough solution I think. If the brake point is at 150 move it to like 300 maybe, I think that's what makes the glen better, the runup is not as huge
It seems to me that the first lap on a restart needs to be routed somewhere other than that first turn in order to allow the field to string out a little bit more.
Single file restarts at all races with less than 10 laps to go is the way forward to preserve quality racing, if you want entertainment and wrecks stick with double file.
Absolutely agree with Denny, at the very least its gotta be about respect. If I don't want to be the pinball getting piled into from behind, I'm not gonna be the jackass piling into the car in front of me, maybe on a green white checkered but they were 5 and 6 wide in the middle of the race just because. We keep hearing about how expensive and difficult these cars are to fix when they get tore up but they half of the field turns that race Sunday into a demo derby, it was a clown show for sure.
I agree with you with everything you said. But here's my twist to it. When Denny is in those situations he rarely ever takes responsibility he might have been the pinball. He's caused a lot of major accidents going for what he'd say real estate. Yes I know he's talking about green flag starts but the dude is very unpredictable and inconsistent.
@@richl9623 Oh, no you're like 110% correct, I do NOT like anything Denny does on the track, but I'm always conflicted because he goes on podcasts and TV shows and says really smart stuff. I'm torn. 🤣
@@Dream25_ I think Denny is a smart individual. He's just super aggressive on the track. That's why I don't pay attention to the Ross haters. He's just doing what every other driver these days are doing. ✌🏻🤙🏻😎
I love watching the stock cars on the road courses... Turn one in Indy is the worst design ever, and not enough thought was put into it. It's about as bad as the final turn rumble strips / speed bumps last year... They need a chicane before turn one to funnel the cars down before the turn. It goes from the wide oval track down to the narrow road course way too abruptly. And the run-offs. and access roads need to require a full stop before re-entering the race course.
Reddick went pretty slow into that turn and made sure nobody was underneath him. If he was going to get bumped it was going to be just before he got into the turn so it wouldn't hurt him too much. Not while he was turning.
NASCAR just needs to copy and paste F1’s corner cutting rule. “If you leave the racing surface (all four tires are past the white lines) and gain a lasting advantage, you may be penalized”. Passing a car does not mean anything, like they said. If you gain any sort of advantage from cutting the corner, you should be penalized. And it should be black and white, no feel sorry calls like “oh he was avoiding a wreak” or something like that. I think NASCAR made the right call with Ross, I just wish they would have been more strict across the whole weekend with this.
not sure if you watch f1 every week but that's not how it works here, you get warnings for going wide before they penalize you, and they will not penalize you for going off track to avoid a wreck. each incident is different
@@KumoGoesFast I know. I’m just saying that NASCAR needs better, more black and white road course rules like the gaining a lasting advantage rule that F1 has. It doesn’t make any sense how the track limits are in-forced in NASCAR right now. It’s ridiculous how large the delay is right now between the officials looking at the incident and making the call.
The fact he mentioned 22 I find funny because 22 is notorious for driving that way and then cries about other drivers *arghem Chase Elliott arghem* driving aggressive
Ross knew it was either wreck or take the "high road". Good on him. NASCAR or the track designers should have made it more difficult to return to the track if using the "high road" That turn 1 was just 🐂👍 as far NASCAR racing is concerned.
@@johnhaas2523 Ultimately it's NASCAR's responsibility to make sure the track is able to handle the cars. They know the drivers are going to be aggressive. If the track isn't safe or it's not conducive for entertaining competition then don't race at the venue. I'm not into demolition derby but there are some fans that dig the wrecks.
Just like Jeff Gordon said at Sonoma, after wrecking half the field, Nascar has a point system that forces drivers to be aggressive. A dnf doesn't hurt as bad as it used to but a win means everything!
when did Gordon do that?
@@alabamatide8192 I don't remember anything like that. Roll Tide!
Don't remember the year, but it was the time when Scott Pruet was in the series. Jeff spun quite a few cars out that day. lol
@@alabamatide8192 2010 I believe. Notably pissed off kurt busch, martin truex, and a few others. I cant remember everyone
@@tylerpowers453 elliott sadler.. he was in bulldoze mode that race
Denny said something positive about Ross. There is hope in NASCAR!
First Denny Hamlin video I thought was fair and honest..lol..
Last video that Denny says something positive
I was watching the race and when he made that move my dad said there goes rally cross Ross to the lead!!!!🤣🤣
“Not is it just some guy, its Ross Chastain” exactly what i thought lol
Lol omg Ross drove the rubber tires off the wheels too. 🤣 Reddick was for sure scared
@@94nolo That move proved how good Ross actually is and how good Reddick's car was to pass him back
@@BurnNotice2023 yep agreed. Glad Reddick won given the controversy, but wish Ross had kept 2nd. Or a top 10
Harvick, "give me all the names..." LOL Love it!
Love him or hate him Denny is good for the sport. Never a dull moment with him. I’ll be sad when he’s gone and idk who I’ll pull for then 😅.
Love him off the track but I’ll never root for him on it. I try to keep it a healthy balance 😂
@@GFire25 I’m the same way with other drivers. I’m no Chase Elliot fan but he seems like a nice guy off the track.
@@Casey757 Chase is like a bowl of sugar free vanilla ice cream.
@@byrontownsel7274 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣 🍨
Denny seems to be like Jekyll and Hyde. Get him out on the track and it's on. Have him in a interview like this he's more tame. I'm looking forward to him just being a cup owner.
listened to this whole thing yesterday and lmfao it was pure comedy
My favorite part was Hamlin talking like Mario Andretti
One of if not the best DBC episode, Denny was a great addition
Absolutely. Denny, after having time to cool down after a race, is a great race commentator. Denny right out of the car? Denny could NO wrong whatever and the entire rest of the field is at fault! LOL
Denny needs to come on more of these so he can be a little less hated. Unless he says something arrogant and makes more people mad.
Yep
Denny is an amazing person. Like many athletes, he has his personality when on the track. Remember, we see these guys as soon as they get off the track and running 500 miles. But I can tell you this. My best friend has a child that's special needs. She was a HUGE fan of a Nascar driver. They were able to get a garage pass and they spent the entire weekend at Darlington. When her favorite driver came walking by, she stared waving and trying to say hi. Her parents were waving right at him. He wasn't more than six feet away and ignored him. She was crying. a little later after trying to calm her down, Denny Hamlin came walking by. Not only did he stop, he told her everything was going to be okay. He put his arm around her and gave her a hug. Signed and took a picture. Taking a few minutes out of his day, changed her entire weekend. Her father (who hated Hamlin as a driver) just broke down as you might imagine. My point of that story is we judge these guys based on what they do on the track and the few interviews right after they get out of the car.
@@MaryandMocha 0
Nice seeing Denny on here.
Not a fan of Denny, but he was spot on here all the way.
I just don't understand why NASCAR never penalize Logano for knocking people out of the way to improve his position. He's done it at least 5 times and NASCAR always turn a blind eye to it. He definitely should've been penalized at Kansas in 2015, Darlington and Indy this year
He's never going to stop until somebody knocks that goofy grin off his face.
He's not penalized because it is not against the rules. And his move in 2015 at Kansas was in retaliation for getting fenced by Kenseth earlier.
If they did that they have to ban Ross then lol
@@dcaseng so when is that gonna happen? Dude has been aggressive his entire Cup career. You folks say this all the time and it never happens nor will it ever happen.
@@dandarling912 Lol, that's my point.
Dennys right, they were IRACING that turn 1. It was embarassing for the series.
The lobbies I was in in iRacing were cleaner than what happened in the real race.
@@Lord_Reavous maybe NASCAR will have to create an irating system
@@Lord_Reavous totally
The drivers completely lost their minds on restarts, they looked stupid.
Kinda right. Yep.
Oh I can't wait to hear this. 👀 I love Hamlin, even if I pretend to hate him lol. His opinion is genuinely extremely important to NASCAR.
Mind-boggling that NASCAR doesn't have a firm rules package about this type of thing. F1, IMSA, Indy, WEC all have very clear rules about run-offs and access roads.
Its nascar. They never think things through
Get rid of access roads and run offs if you are penalized for using it during a pileup, what do they want you to pileup with it?
Richard Green you do know the same people who owns nascar owns and started ISMA
If NASCAR has firm rules, then it becomes obvious when they fudge them to favor certain drivers, teams, and makes.
Nascar has a rule or had one because I heard of it at other road course races. Wasn't it Sonoma that had the dog leg turn?
5:45 - 6:05 Usually I don't agree with a lot of what Denny says, but this time he's talking sense. Especially to point out the 22 and the 2 in turn 1. The 22 on the restart with 3 to go just piled it straight into turn 1 which ended up cleaning Kyle Busch and the 14 and the 23 out, and the 2 on the GWC restart just drilled Suarez into 1 which shunted Suarez into Blaney and AJ and led to the 12 getting spun. Just reckless driving, definitely looked bad for NASCAR. Ross Chastain taking the access road imo was a smart move, he was on the outside of 4 wide and he knew he was gonna get cleaned out if he tried to make turn 1, shame it didn't work out but at least he saved that car from further damage. If Ross had gone into turn 1 he was 100% getting shoved into the grass and maybe spun, AJ was to his inside and even he ended up pretty much completely in the grass cause of the #2 shoving Suarez into Blaney and AJ
People hate denny but he's one of the few to speak the truth. Guy be a good announcer someday
It's a shame you don't agree with a lot of what he says, because his takes are usually spot on... Most fans just discount what he says as crying because they're still butthurt about Martinsville 2017. Same reason why the fanbase still hates Busch for Richmond 2008.
Denny is actually one of the smartest and makes what should be happening in a language that's understandable to the average fan. His problem is when he's talking about him after a race. He's obviously got a temper and to be fair they stick a microphone in front of these drivers faces the second they get out of their cat after a 500 mile race. Denny is great when he hasn't just gotten out of a racecar
Go back and watch the Xfinity Daytona race to start the season. Denny Hamlin and Chad Knaus was the best Nascar broadcasting team I've ever heard.
@@tmthylthm I agree with most of the stuff he says about racing with respect, the problem is that he goes out and does things that makes him look like a bit of a hypocrite, that's what makes his comments hard to take seriously sometimes for me, but you have a really good point, quite a good amount of his takes are spot on (like what he said in this video for example). I'm not particularly a Chase fan either lol, I'm kinda neutral on Chase, my issue with Denny mainly is how he conducts himself on the racetrack
The restart line could be moved to just after turn 1, which would keep them double file only during the restarts for "ending your day corner".
Great call
Or coming right out of 14, give everyone time to spread out a little. You’d still have a crazy turn 1 just not as crazy.
The simplest solution would be to move the start finish line for the road course just before turn one yeah you can put some bricks down if you like screw tradition this should be all about safety they should be driving through turn one at 80 mph 2x2
They will never move the starting line from the bricks, this is Indy! But easy to fix with a few gallons of white paint. Just paint a line that funnels the cars two wide to the outside turning into turn one. You can call it the "Logano Line." It shifts the apex entering the first turn much farther to the left and will stop the amateurish dive bombing. Cross the line during the race and it's a stop n go penalty. Cross the line during the last two laps on a restart and it's a 30 second time penalty. For those taking the alternate route just make a stop n go line before the right turn then a second stop n go line at the edge of the track before entering.
Yeah leave it where it is but add another one it's a matter of safety don't talk stupid?
Drivers like Denny, Kyle Busch, and angry Harvick are easy to dislike a lot of times, but man this sport needs guys like this.
1: Make the rules _CLEAR_
2: Use an IndyCar type of system to assess penalties real-time during the race.
_(Meantime later)_
*AND*
Another thought, change turn one.
Here’s a crazy idea since NASCAR seems to like them so much, use the run off lane on restarts, then use turn one the rest of the time.
I don’t know why all road courses have to have a first turn that is almost impossible to get thru on restarts. Contact in open wheel cars is not as forgiving so those guys are usually not as gung-ho as NASCAR drivers have become with this new car. And that may be part of the problem, drivers seem to be more willing to shove right into a crowd knowing the car can take the punishment.
Bingo. Chase Elliot wouldn't have gotten this same penalty. 😉
The rule should be a common sense thing... If you go out of bounds and gain time, you get a penalty. If you go out of bounds and lose time, you don't get a penalty. I'm not sure why it's so difficult for the fanbase to understand this.
But it cant.. they kiss the wall and day is all bit over
this isnt indycar
@@tmthylthm how the hell does a driver know that? You're dead wrong about this. It's completely up to Nascar to set usage protocols around access roads that do not give drivers any advantage. Make them come to a stop, lengthen the road, give a standard 3 second time penalty for usage.
Easiest fix for the Indy road course.... flip it around ! Run it in the same direction as the oval would run. Then turn 1 would the long sweeping turn 14. It's really that simple. I was just doing it both directions on iracing and the laps times came to be pretty much the same thing either direction.
Wondering why they didn't just take away the time he saved? It isn't a level playing field when penalities are drawn out of a hat.
Because we don't know how much time he saved.
NASCAR don't care about the race they care about the entertainment part of it
It's the product of many things but the overall playoff system is a big issue. This is what causes the lack of respect as they discussed. Finishing 2-36 doesn't matter anymore.
Turn one at indy with nascar is almost just as intense as any race ever at monza!!
If they did not pre establish the rule, there is no rule and making up one is bs!
The rule existed You cannot do what Ross did
The same stuff they're complaining about is the same kind of stuff they'll watch highlights of from the '80s and even back especially Earnhardt doing and talk about how great and amazing it was
Exactly
Harvick wasn't having it.. thise kind of racing would have never happened 10 years ago.. they had more skill and respect than they do now
Excellent addition to the show.
I think peeps on media would be bored without Ross of late lol
Ross is got NASCAR eating outta the palm of his hand! Trackhouse will be a big player in the Chase🏁
Is Ross the next star? Big star? Should we get used to his name? 😉
I love it. Can't wait for next weekend's big storyline!
He'll be huge until he has a family and gets married and has a pile of kids and then his priorities will change probably get his belt wrong three or four times it could wouldn't hurt either a couple concussions here and there something's got to slow him down sooner or later in the meantime you're looking at a future champion
🍉 MAN!!!
He found the secret tunnel 🏎️🏎️🏎️
Through the mountain, secret secret secret secret tunnneeelll
What did the rules say ?
My view is Ross just avoided the 4 wide wreck in turn 1 .
Nascar need to make them stop .
No sir, he punched it to get ahead of Reddick, it would of been a shame if he wrecked Reddick
This is why NASCAR needed to do some timing on the bail out road, make it to where you loose too much time to make it a viable option. Could have added a chicane or weave-throughs that would have added time to negate any advantage. Indycar/CART had this issue back in the mid to late 90s and it solved with these features. Thank you NASCAR, I've available to officiate whenever you want/NEED me too.
It used to be stop and go. If you missed the chicane at Watkins Glen it was stop and go. If he had stopped he never would have been in the lead but the issue is he GUNNED it. He intentionally cheated. The dude isn't that smart clearly, we saw that after the race in his post race interview.
Can’t wait to see what drivers do on the Chicago Street course. It will be worse than Indy thought about being!!
Hmmmmm
Someone's gonna be killed out there even if they drive 50% better than they did at Indy.
NASCAR needs to drop the Indy Road Course.. Each year NASCAR proves they dont know what they're doing on road courses other than Sonoma and Watkins Glen.
Bring back the Brickyard 400.
Please.
Roger Penske and Indianapolis motor speedway want the road course
Enforce F1 standards when a car is unsafe or uncontrollable, give penalty. That will help control restarts into corners.
“Give me all 5 names” chuckles
I clicked on this orepared to disagree but honestly spot on with this discussion 100% good segment
There is such a simple solution to solving this dilemma. Keep the access but add a tight chicane at the end to slow the car down and prevent the driver from advancing his position. The need for this access is essential to try and eliminate some of these wrecks in these tight corners.
Love the show
Good info.
NASCAR should make it an option for all with no penalty. I think it would make it very interesting for the fans. That way we can keep the start finish line where it is. Reduce Wrecks, in turn one also.
It’s a win-win!
24 wheels in Turn 1 are MUCH better than 4...
I'm not at all a fan of Denny or Logano, but I appreciate when drivers are honest about situations. They have a good way of putting themselves in the situation of the other driver. (Assuming they aren't wrecked in the process).
Brett spot on with that reddick restart Newman esk for sure and spot on Freddy with the stop an go. Denny is the future mayor preach !
The old Bristol races were exciting as a spectator as there were more than 1 car trying to take up a space.
What I liked about Turn 1 at Indy was it reminded me of old Bristol and why I use to watch stock car racing.
Spectators want more of this in my opinion - not less.
Beating and banging is good. Turn 1 and Indy was just stupid and a joke.
If you're racing at Indy run the oval!
Tyler Reddick is the best driver in NASCAR hands down.
Laughing all the way 🤣 . Yes you pretty much hit the nail on the head . They need full bumpers all the way around , then they could call it a Derby and anything goes .
Is this all or is there a longer show to watch??
Tomorrow night on MAV TV
THANK YOU! I really enjoyed the small clip left me wanting more!!
They should apply the penalty equally, all or none! The only way to reward aggressive driving is to in turn penalize folks who cause random nonsense
Super simple solution move the start line just before the turn 1
Cars will then be going through turn 1 there at 80 mph 2x2. Yes it's the brickyard Road course reconstruct some old bricks down and make a new start finish line screw tradition of having only one start finish line
I still think single file for OT restarts.
On that final restart some of the drivers were driving like they were in go-carts or bumper cars.
NASCAR should adopt a rule, where if you cause the wreak, like Logano carelessly making a 7th lane and blowing through the field, then you get sent to the back of the field for reckless driving. It's easy to tell, whether something was carelessly done on purpose vs a racing deal, like sure NASCAR wants the drivers to police themselves, but it's contradicting when they get slapped with a fine or points deduction if any retaliation of any kind happens.
Classic Harvick Single file absolutely Love Kurt
They made these cars more durable with better brakes and this is what you're going to see. Pushing it way too far and not caring about moderate contact.
I agree with the girls point. If he tried to blend in about where he blended off I feel like that would be acceptable
Changing the track configuration..that will make sense.
The solution is to temporarily modify the straight to prevent it from happening.
2002 Winston - Burton and Stoddard loophole ... almost worked
My thought is they need to develop a front end that isn't as strong as the current one. Use it only on road course. Then when you plow into the back of someone you have a better chance of damaging your radiator or aero.
Did T.J. just badmouth Joey? Has hell frozen over?
I was shocked to hear it too.
I've heard it a few times. Apparently now that he no longer works for Penske the gag (order) is off. 😉
The 48 was just as bad as the 22. Hes lucky hes sliped under the radar. He cleand out his own teammate the 9.
Sounds like also he misses spotting for him now that the 6 isn’t nowhere close running with 22
The stop location was over by turn 12 for blowing 1 5 or 7
I agree single file, under 10 laps
Love how nbc didn’t mention logano once for his Nascar heat impersonating
I wish while a issue is debated that they show some video of what the point is that they're trying to make.
They are all going off recollection. With footage they would have a better chance of proving their point.
What good is a video do when this is a podcast and so anyone listening wouldn't even see the video
@@johnhaas2523 He already said "they are all going off recollection." THEY could use the video, not the listeners/viewers.
@@johnhaas2523 because I watch it on TH-cam. If they didn't think it will be watched they wouldn't be sitting in a decorated studio.
@@billparks7368 well it is on TV now every Thursday night and before that there was the clips on TH-cam like this one.
If you watch ,Ross was right ,the car that he was next to him was definitely going through the grass on that turn. He should have done what Bubba did on the restart before he got knock in the grass and went straight.Bubba picked up a lot spots.Bubba didn't get a penalty. According to the rules what he did was legal . Until he made Nascar look stupid . That is when it became illegal.
Bubba did get penalized to some extent he was placed behind Burton under caution
@@johnhaas2523 He passed more cars than Burton.I think it had to do with timing lines under caution.But I'm not going to watch it again to be a 100% sure.I just wish they were consistent.
The easy solution is move the restart box to be in front of the finish line, the closer you get it to the corner the less this will happen and it's an easy enough solution I think. If the brake point is at 150 move it to like 300 maybe, I think that's what makes the glen better, the runup is not as huge
It's a good idea but I don't think they are touching their precious brick finish line!
I thought the rule was if you use the access road you must stop and then go again.
Is anybody talking about the fact that Chris Buescher finished 10th?
Love it!! Mariokart shortcuts. But no penguins. Sorry I missed it.
Do Indy road course anti clockwise
They should just turn the current runoff area into turn 1 rather than using the 90 degree right hander.
We love Ross down here in Texas, Hamlin not so much.
Speak for yourself buddy boy, Hamlin has loads of Texas support.
“ he’s just a hack an absolute hack”
Denny Hamlin probably
It seems to me that the first lap on a restart needs to be routed somewhere other than that first turn in order to allow the field to string out a little bit more.
Where would you suggest they route them onto the course? Through the stands? 🤣🤣
Single file restarts at all races with less than 10 laps to go is the way forward to preserve quality racing, if you want entertainment and wrecks stick with double file.
the 48 bulldozed harvick if you watch it over he wheel hops or something gets the rear kicked sideways and blows the turn into harvick.
Absolutely agree with Denny, at the very least its gotta be about respect. If I don't want to be the pinball getting piled into from behind, I'm not gonna be the jackass piling into the car in front of me, maybe on a green white checkered but they were 5 and 6 wide in the middle of the race just because. We keep hearing about how expensive and difficult these cars are to fix when they get tore up but they half of the field turns that race Sunday into a demo derby, it was a clown show for sure.
I agree with you with everything you said. But here's my twist to it. When Denny is in those situations he rarely ever takes responsibility he might have been the pinball. He's caused a lot of major accidents going for what he'd say real estate. Yes I know he's talking about green flag starts but the dude is very unpredictable and inconsistent.
@@richl9623 Oh, no you're like 110% correct, I do NOT like anything Denny does on the track, but I'm always conflicted because he goes on podcasts and TV shows and says really smart stuff. I'm torn. 🤣
@@Dream25_ I think Denny is a smart individual. He's just super aggressive on the track. That's why I don't pay attention to the Ross haters. He's just doing what every other driver these days are doing. ✌🏻🤙🏻😎
I love watching the stock cars on the road courses... Turn one in Indy is the worst design ever, and not enough thought was put into it. It's about as bad as the final turn rumble strips / speed bumps last year...
They need a chicane before turn one to funnel the cars down before the turn. It goes from the wide oval track down to the narrow road course way too abruptly.
And the run-offs. and access roads need to require a full stop before re-entering the race course.
It wasn't designed for stock cars it was designed for F1 cars.
They adjust it for the stock cars..that turn should have been more forgiving.
why completely change a good track just for nascar? just run them on the oval or something
*if it’s even that bad, honestly the indy road course is good but the nascar guys don’t care about other people
Reddick went pretty slow into that turn and made sure nobody was underneath him. If he was going to get bumped it was going to be just before he got into the turn so it wouldn't hurt him too much. Not while he was turning.
Funny how they don't talk about Bubba cutting the corner same as Briscoe in 2021 same place different year.
7:15 Jeff Gordon fans having triggering flashbacks.
Harvick! Give me their names, he says! Awesome. He has no fear.
He leaves his helmet on when he 'fights'.
Place concrete barriers on turn 1 and that will stop the sillys.
Im honestly curious if he actually hit the access road and did a stop and go then go on what would have actually happened
It was not breaking a rule that was not there, then it was. That is horse squeeze
Just add a soft wall chicane after they make the turn on the access road. Problem solved.... not going to gain an advantage that way.
I’ve been listening to DBC for over a year now and I had no clue what any of you guys looked like and I have to say it’s weird seeing you guys, lmao.
If dale Earnhardt was still here he would not like how things are going today
Casey was very flirty this week
Mini crush on Denny ?
How about Bubba? He pulls the same move that got Briscoe penalized last year. Bubba wasn't penalized. He was awarded fifth place. Why?
Pave the area between turn 1 and the access road, open it all up more like a chicane.
NASCAR just needs to copy and paste F1’s corner cutting rule. “If you leave the racing surface (all four tires are past the white lines) and gain a lasting advantage, you may be penalized”. Passing a car does not mean anything, like they said. If you gain any sort of advantage from cutting the corner, you should be penalized. And it should be black and white, no feel sorry calls like “oh he was avoiding a wreak” or something like that. I think NASCAR made the right call with Ross, I just wish they would have been more strict across the whole weekend with this.
not sure if you watch f1 every week but that's not how it works here, you get warnings for going wide before they penalize you, and they will not penalize you for going off track to avoid a wreck. each incident is different
@@KumoGoesFast I know. I’m just saying that NASCAR needs better, more black and white road course rules like the gaining a lasting advantage rule that F1 has. It doesn’t make any sense how the track limits are in-forced in NASCAR right now. It’s ridiculous how large the delay is right now between the officials looking at the incident and making the call.
The fact he mentioned 22 I find funny because 22 is notorious for driving that way and then cries about other drivers *arghem Chase Elliott arghem* driving aggressive
Ross knew it was either wreck or take the "high road". Good on him. NASCAR or the track designers should have made it more difficult to return to the track if using the "high road" That turn 1 was just 🐂👍 as far NASCAR racing is concerned.
Ross the next?⭐️
When the road course was constructed it wasn't envisioned for NASCAR it was OPEN wheel racing and motorcycle racing
@@johnhaas2523 Ultimately it's NASCAR's responsibility to make sure the track is able to handle the cars. They know the drivers are going to be aggressive. If the track isn't safe or it's not conducive for entertaining competition then don't race at the venue. I'm not into demolition derby but there are some fans that dig the wrecks.
Turn one at IMS is I equal to turn one at Monza. In terms of being send city.
Add a chicane to the access road, automatically slows down the car using this option.