Two Fatal Cessna 150 Airplane Crash Filmed From Cockpit
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Pilot and passenger are killed from ground impact after a low altitude stall from pitching up to clear power lines.
NTSB Report FTW94FA140
A video camera with a tape inside was recovered from the accident site. The video showed the progression of portions of the flight, including the last moments prior to impact. The tape contained audio as well as video recordings. The recording began at the beginning of the cassette. All of the following times were measured in minutes and seconds from the beginning of the tape. Between video tape time 00:00 and 01:37, the tape contained various shots of the ramp area at the Brownsville airport. There were two brief views of the accident airplane during this segment. Between 01:38 and 03:29, there were shots taken outside the right window. The airplane was at altitude in a level cruise attitude over flat terrain and engine noises could be heard in the background. At 03:29, the camera panned onto the instrument 03:58. From 03:58 until 04:22, there was footage of a grass fire on the ground, a decrease in power was heard, along with a comment "call fire department."
Starting at 04:22 and running to 04:34, there was a view of a downwind approach to the fire shot from the right side of the airplane. Altitude at this time was estimated as being between 10 and 20 feet AGL. The engine noise decreased slightly during this sequence. Between 04:34 and 05:02, the tape showed the airplane banking left, still at low altitude and at 04:58, the comment "crop duster style" was heard. At 05:02, the airplane overflew a canal with brush on either side and an unidentifiable sound is heard from the bottom of the airplane.
At 05:03, the tape shows the airplane straight and level at low altitude over a field. At 05:08, a set of power lines is visible out the front windshield and at 05:14, the comment "under or over" is heard, followed at 05:16, by the comment "over." Between 05:14 and 05:29, the camera showed a view of the airplane entering a steep pull up, followed by laughter and screaming. At 05:25, the stall warning horn activated and a left bank is discernable. This was followed by an expletive at 05:28, and another unintelligible comment at 05:29, and a vertical field of view of the cultivated field. The portion of the video tape that ran between 05:26 and 05:29, was damaged. At various points during the video, the engine instruments were visible. All of the engine power instruments were within high cruise power setting parameters throughout the taped sequences.
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You know what makes a pilot look really cool? One that can fly safely and by the book, one that performs every safety check, one that never puts anyone's life at risk and most of all doesn't feel the need to impress anyone, flying a plane safely is impressive enough.
Ok sissy! If everyone had that mind we wouldn't even have invented heavier-than-air flight. xD
@@ZioStalin all pilots do you dumb fuck
@@fdzaviation you are dead right
As a pilot I totally agree with you Chris.
@@fdzaviation like banished from the kingdom??
When I was learning to fly a Cessna 152 and doing cross country solos, my favorite aircraft began exhibiting odd characteristics. Namely, every couple of weeks the aircraft pulled to one side. This resulted in considerable aircraft maintenance which the mechanics described as 're-rigging'. The aircraft then flew fine... until the next time. I liked the aircraft because the engine was strong and never gave any problems - returned a good rate of climb and behaved well at higher altitudes (such as when flying over the mountains around Flagstaff, Arizona). The aircraft tail number, according to my log book, was 6471L
Anyhow, one day I came in to Deer Valley, Phoenix to rent the aircraft and found it missing. Turns out the aircraft was being flown by another student who met up with a friend to engage in 'simulated combat maneuvers' (according to his log book). Anyhow, he exceeded limits and the horizontal stabiliser folded up (backwards) and the aircraft went into a dive and cratered. With hindsight, he was doing this on a regular basis.
It was frightening to realize I had been flying an aircraft that was routinely being stressed beyond its limits. I am guessing the student pilot chose the aircraft for the same reason I did - the strong engine. Either way, I count myself lucky that I didn't become an unwitting victim like the complete morons in this video.
Simulated combat maneuvers.. wow. You can guaranteed people will beat on a rental car but a rental plane, did he know the aircraft wasn’t designed for that and did it anyway?
@@jasperjenkins3789 I never met the individual concerned, but I would guess he was young and considered himself invulnerable.The C152 is a decent enough machine although not cleared for aerobatics. That said, we used the beefier Aerobat version for spin recovery training. I hate to imagine what he was doing when the empennage folded up.
@@davidgapp1457 thank you for sharing, God bless.
If you undertake to fly that puppy, then you take it upon your own shoulders to accept 100% of the responsibility. Don't be such a cholicky infant! What is wrong with you!?!? Do the World a favor and stay out of the skies and off the streets!
@@timapple6586 You are a sad troll. I pray you are not a pilot because your attitude is beyond ridiculous. Please don't be a pilot - you're not bright enough or 'responsible enough' to be one.
I owned a 1977 Cessna 150 and flew it safely for several hundred hours before moving on to a 182. Aviation can be as safe or dangerous as you want to make it. Horrible judgement, unsafe practices and FAR violations aside, this is is a colossal betrayal of trust on the part of the pilot.
Thank you, for you have said it well. There are old pilots and there are bold pilots, but not very many old, bold pilots.
You can be safe as much as you can and still be a victim of circumstance.
True, but rarely.......@@chupacabra1765
My instructor's first words to me were, "A pilots license is a license to learn, no matter how long you fly, or how many hours and ratings you have in your logbook, it is still only a license to learn." Some pilots learn the hard way.
If the Vice-President of the AOPA, who was as experienced as any pilot could possibly be can get caught out making the impossible turn. and lose his life, imagine plebes like us who only have our PPL. I remember my Dad telling me how many times he taxied a plane back to the ramp because a magneto check was borderline. Unlike a car, you can't just pull over. Safety always comes first ... PERIOD.
Those were my instructor’s words to me. But they can be true for almost anything. But I’m flying it’s critical.
The problem with flying an airplane is you don't always get a second chance to learn from your mistakes. .
Roger that. Like Chuck Yeager said, aviation is not inherently dangerous, it is just very unforgiving of mistakes. @@cal4625
My friend I have been flying over 50 years (started flying the tomahawk as a student pilot, then in the military the B-52, and in the airlines I started flying the 727 and ended my career in the 787), along my long career I never stopped learning how to fly. You have or had a very wise instructor!
Reminds me of Del Rio, TX (1986ish). Two USAF O-1 student pilots took two local high school senior girls on a thrill flight around Lake Amistad in a 172. They were doing low altitude hammerhead stalls and a bunch of other reckless hotdogging. End result was 4 lost souls and a smoldering wad of wreckage among canyon rocks. I remember seeing the younger sister of one of the deceased girls just a week or so later and trying to imagine the emotions she was going through. Quite an impressionable event for my 9th grade self at the time. This video prompted that Del Rio memory.
Would that have been the Funk family? I knew a professor at an aviation school in 1990 or 1991 who told this story about losing a child in this manner. It was a sobering moment to hear him scare straight a whole classroom of flight students by recounting this story that hit him so close to home, but I can't help but think he saved a few lives over the years. There was an occasional hot dogging student at that school...I can only hope he made them think twice about pulling stunts like that.
I believe there was video of that incident and it is not available to the public but given to the USAF by the family. It is shown to each UPT class as one of the first lessons. I am a loadmaster on C5s in San Antonio, Texas and I remember 1 of our new pilots telling me about it.
@@maubunky1 Yes, one of the girls was Dana Funk. The other was her roommate. Sadly, Dana's brother was killed in a T-38 crash in 2008.
The plane went down in a lake.
This is absolutely sickening. I was sent this link by friends. I do agriculture in a 502 & 602. I started out flying RW. Before we apply product we make several circles and usually I visit every site on the ground before I spray/seed. Why some amateur would fly that low is absolutely insane. And I say amateur because nobody with experience would ever fly anywhere that low they haven’t been before and visited on the ground threw the flight path. Your never surprised because you have it mapped out. I print out a aerial of the properties and mark with red lines where every powerline is. I have digital systems but my grandfather is who started agriculture in the family and years back he would take aerial photos and label it himself. So that’s what I grew up around and that’s what makes me comfortable is having a physical piece of paper with the aerial & obstructions marked. That poor kid was straight up murdered in my book
Especially trying to pull nose up that hard in a 150 with weakened horsepower. Some kids don't understand that flying is not driving. In a level and horizontal rate a v6 motor will increase and accelerate at a gentle rate of speed with normal compression and power. If you immediately increase the angle of ascent on a grade you slow down. Same thing in a small plane. A jet has equivalent = v8motor power and can increase & maintain. But dumb choices and not understanding that the ascent rate in a small motored plane with immediate pitch up is like hitting a brick wall with weights on. Immediate STALL 😟
There is so much tragedy in your failure to grasp eggcorns and contractions.
Please stop.
@@gavinvalentino6002 They don't pay him for good grammar. What do they pay you for?
@@gavinvalentino6002 Dude, you're not going to out-cool a crop duster with grammar lessons. I could watch them for hours. I think 20 seconds would be a stretch for observing you at your job, if you have one, Foghorn Eggcorn.
The passengers voice near the end, he sounds so young like a teen, is absolutely chilling. Heart breaking, as not his fault and he was someone's son who put his trust in the pilot. It's not big or clever being cold and nasty, some of the comments here are crass and utterly heartless. Who brought you up, a drone? RIP.
They are adolescents or young "men" who do not have children.
people die all the time. being stupid or smert about it changes nothing. respect or not, still deed. its you who places so much value in this death, video, person who did a dumb thing and died from his death. stop caring. life gets easier.
@@wonkyeyewilly4575 *smart
@@wonkyeyewilly4575 Um.....WHAT??
Very well said thank you
I have watched this video many times. The recklessness and stupidity on display are truly breathtaking. I am not the most experienced pilot in the world, but at the time of this writing I have about 300 landings to my credit. I cannot imagine what my instructor(s) would have said and done had I even considered doing something this foolish. I am sorry these people died but this is an object lesson in exactly what not to do in an airplane.
Imagine a college where acceptance into the program was entirely predicated upon the sheer wealth of you parents and had zero whatsoever to do with your personal aptitude or academic standing. What could POSSIBLY go wrong?
Tim Apple, you just described Trump and his father.
@@dalereed3950 For the first time in America we have no president, just a weak and frail puppet, not elected, but installed by a criminally corrupt political system!!!
@@dalereed3950 Ahh yes, good ol' Trump! The ONLY President who did things FOR this country and not for himself and his wicked cronies in Washington!
@@dalereed3950 Why do liberals like you allow Trump to run your little lives? He hasn't been President in over 2 years, yet he lives in your dome so much that you feel compelled to bring his name up in something like this?
Seek help immediately. You're an obsessed, sick puppy.
As a low time pilot, I always remember what Michael Bloomberg (who flies his own helicopter) said: "I like aviation because if you don't follow the rules, you die." For that reason, I maintain a healthy fear of flying. It's useful.
Fear is your friend, not your enemy.
Never allow yourself to simultaneously run out of airspeed, altitude, and ideas.
The air is like the sea, not inherently dangerous, but terribly unforgiving of any mistakes.
@@johnkerr4645 Back when I worked in aviation, someone had a poster of a biplane that had "augured in" with this caption on it.
@@westerlywinds5684 That is crap. Respect is your friend. Fear causes irrational decisions. Professional pilot... now retired. Zero accidents or incidents after 30 years.
Feel bad for the passenger. Poor guy had no clue the danger he was in, until about 2 seconds before his death.
Aircraft are a leveraged investment; a little training, knowledge and respect will earn you a lifetime of joy. A few seconds of stupidity will take your life from you.
THOUSANDS OF CRASHES ON YOU TUBE ...THANKS BUT NO THANKS.
I AGREE BUT I DON'T TRUST AND PILOT OF ANY PLANE. IT'S JUST ME.
Plane crashes are very rare. Most pilots are trained and are just trying to have a good time. You will be fine going into a single engine piston plane
@@DaesoTheOne RARE ???????? THOUSANDS ON TH-cam JUST A ACCIDENT WAITING TO HAPPEN. NO WAY JOSE.
ERIC EDMUND Yes it’s rare. Have you ever seen one?
Before seeing the video I could not understand how you could kill yourself in a C-150. I was curious. At the start of the video I thought it must be a mid air collision. If they lost the engine the landing speed would be plenty slow enough to walk away. They then started flying really low which is incredibly dangerous and they thought it was fun. They were completely not risk aware. In 28000 hours I never flew a general aviation plane under 1000 agl or a class B or C limit except for take off or landing. It just was unwarranted risk. I should mention that in the military I flew the F-111 for 3 years. We flew very very low and high subsonic to supersonic speeds day and night. It was completely different. We were highly trained, the plane had terrain following computer systems and was designed for this and every inch of the route was carefully analyzed. I've been flying over 50 years. Flying can still be fun if you are meticulous and risk adverse.
And it'll kill you stone dead if you give it a chance. I remember practicing engine failures and my instructor not wanting to go below 500' AGL; he told me such low altitudes made him nervous as your options narrow so much.
A young man in my city was soloing doing touch and gos. On the last leg he forgot to raise the flaps on takeoff (full flaps) He couldn't gain speed, stalled and crashed into a back yard. Lost his life but at least didn't hit the house. He was flying a C 152.
Remember that a Cessna 150 will barely kill you.
How IN THE HELL could you not understand how one could kill themselves in a Cessna 150/152?
Seriously, what rock did you crawl out from underneath?
@@johnbasiglone1219
The real John Basiglone would not put up with your NEGATIVE attitude for one second ! Nobody likes it !!
I like the way people say "fake" if it's something they don't understand or haven't seen themselves.
To you people I say - Get out more
They do not like reality
I assume it is real. However, there are some oddities, and the most being that the film corrupts just at the point it does.
Likely filmed using magnetic tape. The part of the tape in, or near the mechanism would be more prone to damage.
I always come back to this, from absolute elation 5:18 to death 5:31 its fantastic how fragile an existence we live. Definitely saved this to my flight training playlist.
Yes, this is a great training tool much like Red Asphalt was for new automotive drivers in the 70's and 80's. God bless whoever was in that craft. I hope to always be a very boring pilot. If i ever finish.
@@sherwinjoseph3737 how did the crash happened?
@@eoinmorganj I believe if you listen to the video without distraction you will hear the stall horn go off. This is most likely because he/she was too low and slow and tried to increase power at that point to no avail. Also he probably pulled the nose up and increased the stall possibility
@@sherwinjoseph3737 That what was I was thinking. Wasn't sure if it was the stall warning or the tape. My best guess as a pilot was they were trying to get a closer look at the fire and was too low. Flying through the smoke, got a little anxious and pulled up too fast. Again, just a guess.
@@hamhocksandflipflopsfarms According to the NTSB report, it appears there was a bit of showboating going on here. The pilot did fly low to get a good view of the fire - but stayed low (10 feet AGL). One of the two (probably the passenger) says “Crop duster style!”. Eventually they saw power lines in the distance and the passenger says “Under or over?”.. The pilot says “Over”, pulling up and subsequently stalling the plane. If you look close, you can actually see the power lines in the distance before the rapid ascent.
I always felt the responsibility of having others that entrusted their safety to me every time I had a passenger on board. If you want to be reckless with your own life have at it but to put someone else in danger like that is unforgivable.
I've done questionable things in my car with my wife next to me and she was pissed. I take her flying with me sometimes and she asked me why I'm safely conscious to the point of being pedantic and my reply is I don't want to die ... lol ... and nothing would shatter my life more than to do something stupid flying, have an incident where I make it but my passengers don't. You have responsibility when you take passengers up to ensure they make it home. Safely always first.
@@palindrome1959 Duh! Your wife is trying to tell you that she would also prefer not to die in a car crash either. Given that people always say you are more likely to get into a car crash than an airplane crash, this would be why. So I do hope you took her words to heart and also applied safety to driving your car. Any vehicle is a deadly weapon. And the driver/pilot is the one aiming said deadly weapon. Think about it.
Damn, this is like something I did! It doesn't surprise me, but it should, that this pilot had a commercial certificate with an instrument rating. When my commercial/instrument was new, I also did some showing off, flying 3 friends inside the small valley containing the Brazos River from Lake Whitney, Texas to Waco. I thought it was cool to be below ground level and 20 feet above the river. Suddenly, my roommate next to me pointed forward & said "are those power lines?" I don't cuss, but said "SHIT" loudly! A cluster of 3 or 4 power lines stretched across the river valley in front of us. I yanked the yoke into my belly and will never forget the sight of power lines rushing under our Cessna 172 at 100 MPH with _maybe_ 10 feet of clearance. Showing off for friends in an airplane. It almost killed all four of us, just like it took the lives of the two young men in this video. I'm 51 now & still fly for fun (work on F-35s for a living) but I don't do stupid stuff while flying anymore. My showing off is a good landing and an enjoyable, safe flight. Young pilots, PLEASE don't show off in the cockpit!
@ Stephen W.....thank you for posting this, along with the NTSB report...shows just how quickly things can go bad, when there is not enough altitude to recover from a stall....
Things went bad from the start of the flight
Last two seconds of audio is kind of haunting
It's crazy how similar to laughing and screaming are
The older I get, the more safety conscious I become. You can still get all the enjoyment and while operating safely .
And you can do it again another day..
lol so true! I used to be a pretty good skateboarder as a kid.. now 38 with a family and a carpentry business, my nephew asked me to show him some tricks on his board and I seriously had to weigh my whole current life up before getting on it 😂
From having fun to pure terror in a second
🙏 if god wills it
I think the pilot was caught by surprise when he came up to the power lines so he climbed too steep, and they’re laughing, he’s playing along like he meant to do that, then the plane stalled and that was it. Just my opinion.
This video, while graphic, serves as a reminder to keep a level head when flying. Have fun but know the limits.
"There are old pilots and there are bold pilots, but there are no old bold pilots."
This video really does show how much truth there is to that saying.
Old = wise
Bold = dumb
Literally half the air force pilots around the world: "I'm about to end this dude's whole career."
actually, bold pilots are the ones with greatest success. It's a gross oversimplification of what is really at play. The real differentiator is discretion. Knowing when to play it safe, and when to make a move.
@@SoloRenegade Actually, actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually
You want to impress me? Land your plane safely!
They wanted to show off their genius.
Absolutely. Those who land fly another day. These two are just a learning video for perpetuity now. Such an unnecessary waste of life.
Screams during the last seconds..
Horrifying
If you mean the second video I hear them screaming a sort of "cheering on" type thing like celebrating this ridiculous manouver. Were they trying to do that?
yep
Yup.
Pilot: "Fuck!"
Passenger: Oh SHIT, SHIT!
*Lights Out*
I felt joy in those seconds
@@premiumuser507 degenerate
as they say, there are old pilots and there are bold pilots but there are no old and bold pilots
It didn't matter if he had full power or not. When you pull up abruptly, you change the angle of attack of the wind and the wing and the wing no longer produces lift and you stall. You have to lower the attitude of the wing to produce lift but you lose altitude when you do that at too low an airspeed and he did. You can stall at any speed or power setting.
@@michaelbigelow3255 I would agree with the OP if it wasn't a 150.....
Maybe if you modified the elevators to be 3x the size so it flew like a fighter jet, then yeah, wouldn't want to get too abrupt with that lol
@@SuperPhunThyme9 You couldn’t possibly do that. The elevators would be so over effective, you’d pull the wings off the aeroplane with the slightest pull at speed! You’d also pitch up so much on rotation, you’d stall anyway.
You can’t stall going mach 5
@@pehotanoo5981 Yes you can actually. Have you never heard of the condition called “Departure”? Look up the High Speed Stall!
Specially in a shitty cessna with a piston engine, that thing suffers to fly lvl let alone pretending it to be a clean f16 working for the Thunderbirds...
At 5:25 you can hear the stall warning buzzer if you listen closely.
More of a whistle on the 150..but clearly audible!😮😢
The problem with being a hot dog is that, sooner or later, you will get cooked.
And you know what they say, if all pork chops were perfect, we wouldn’t have hot dogs.
This is chilling and changed my mind about wanting to get my license. John Denver had over 2400 hours flying and was distracted and lost control. It can happen to anyone but after reading the report, this guy was flying reckless. "go over or under the power lines" would not even be a question in my mind.
There are old pilots. There are bold pilots. There are no old and bold pilots.
@@house9850 yeah no question at all....always under the lines!
.....right?
@@house9850 wait I meant over
An unfortunate accident caused by poor judgement. Aviation is brutally unforgiving. May these gentlemen rest in peace.
The nervous laugh was haunting because he thought they would be in the clear.
Funny too
He was thinking. "I'll never fly with this guy again".
He was right.
when he laughed is when the pilot pulled up, we was literaly going straight up. so i think almost anyone would laugh at that point. then the plane dropped, and he realized (with commentary) : "shit" :)
Yea so sad! That instructor was a jerk and if the kid had any knowledge about flying,he probably would have been screaming instead of laughing. 😔
That was messing around. Don't mess around!
Quit screwing around, you screw around to much.
If you're gonna mess around, do it like Ray Charles, not like that Cessna pilot.
Many years ago I knew of a promising young lad starting a career in aviation. A really bright and well mannered fella. He was attending Embry-Riddle. On a break from school, he and another classmate rented an airplane. His classmate wanted to buzz his parent’s house. Witnesses at the departure airport said the airplane flew off into the distance, never more than 100 feet off the ground. I guess the pilot forgot about the high tension power lines near his parents’ house.
Seemingly forgot about the law too. Flying 100 ft in altitude over buildings will get you in deep shit.
@@thejackbox well duh
@@thejackbox It's not a Law its a regulation. Meaning You don't have to be found guilty the FAA just tells you that you are guilty.
@@Code_Fly_Repeat cool.
What a thrilling thing to see stupid go down in flames and horror. Stupidity-- the most abundant element in the universe.
Forgive me. My love for horror movies. We all go to see things like this on Tv or the theatres. So it must be normal.
The pilots last sentence before he said "oh shit!!"is a true manifest of his attiude and commitment towards regulations and the safety of the airplane, his passenger, and those on the ground below.. Just as the powerlines appear into view, he entertainingly asks his passenger "OVER OR UNDER?! OVER OR UNDER?!!" This also shows that he planned this ridiculously stupid manuevre. A show-off is a dangerous kind of pilot, easily recognised by real, safe pilots who excercise good judgement..
Cessna 152's are like the VW Bug of aircraft. I remember the ones I flew for my flight training would always have the door pop open on takeoff or in flight. It wasn't a big deal, but it did leave me with a lasting feeling of "I hope the wings don't fold up on me!" Power-on stall training sessions were like a Hail Mary prayer recital, but to their credit the Cessna held together. When I transitioned to a low-wing Piper Warrior, it felt like I had transitioned from a VW Bug to the Starship Enterprise and gave me a lot more confidence in build quality and handling.
Total bs bro ok what squad were you?
Several years ago, during one of my bi-annuals, I was with some "hot shot" instructor who decided to show me what the 182 could actually do... and he pulled something similar. We flew off the deck at max speed... he pulled up into a nose-up attitude... stalled it... and recovered about 500 feet agl. I was NEVER so angry in all of my life. I told him to land the plane because he and I were going to have a go!!!! He was apologetic.. but I don't think he knows just how close he cut it.
@DesignatedEagle F I should have. I remember thinking at the time that the flight school was rather new and I didn't want to see them go under. the good news is: he was gone not long after I did my check ride with him. But I honestly don't know what became of him. My check ride was back in 2001 I think. Right before 9_11
Looks like we gotta badass over here
There are always "pilots" who believe they can outlive their stupidity
And carelessness
Now you don't do that unless you have quite a bit of altitude for recovery
as a student pilot, these type videos are quite educational.
As an aspiring pilot, this scares the shit out of me.
@@HondoSauce me too. I was too close to the power line while taking off today. Would have just died.
It's funny how when you get complacent flying RC planes you tend to destroy them. It's scary how complacency in a real air craft provides the same result. Complacency kills
I stand corrected, I went to that site found the incident report. Even found our old 150 we sold in 76 crashed by the new owner in 78, non-fatal..thank you for good info.
This is a sad lesson for us all. The video reminds those of us who love aviation that we can never be too cautious.
It reminds us to fly the way we were taught, and not to do idiotic things whilst piloting!
@@stevemarks9360 what caused the plane to crash?
@@eoinmorganj STUPIDITY
Thank you for sharing this..
I hope others will learn from this tragic event.
Damn just imagine if that brush fire wouldn’t have happened they wouldn’t be flying so low and would still be alive today with grandkids of their own by now. Aviation will humble you quick
I was trained to fly by my CFII, who, along with his sons, owned a crop dusting operation in the midwest. I also worked as a mixer/loader for them during spraying season and often got rides (and logged time) in some nice high performance aircraft. Anyway, it was a different type of learning to fly and my instructor wanted me to learn to crop dust and I was all eager about that! I built many hours during those summers and didn't think twice when approaching a power line to just stay low (of course seeing there was no vehicles on the gravel roads coming!) and I'd easily buzz right under the wires. When this pilot asked his lady friend "over or under?" and she said OVER! - mistake #1. It didn't sound like he was very sure of himself and he decided too late and stalled. Pity. Stall avoidance is critical at low altitude...for obvious reasons, lol.
Very sad to see young lives such as these two end like that. I highly recommend young and old
pilots to attend safety meetings by the AOPA Air Safety Institute which show this tragedies so
that we get to learn from other peoples' mistakes. Low level flights, showing off, has proven for
many years how dangerous this kind of flying is. I try to instill this fundamental of safety to all my
students, the young ones in particular, early in the learning process.
No amount of instruction will cure bad character. These two people didn't die from pilot ignorance. They died from the pilot's lack of concern for his own and his passenger's safety.
Out of curiosity where did your keep the manifold pressure and AFR's mixtures at moderate altitudes, say at 10,000
I've landed a C-150, C-152 and C-172 on dirt and grass many times. That sound, in my opinion, is very consistent with the sound of a small Cessna's wheels contacting and rolling on dirt or gravel. Grass sounds similar, but a little different. I believe they rolled on the ground where it rose up a bit. This makes it quite amazing that they did not crash then and/or flip over.
I heard stall horn then death
@@stanktail He was referring to the sound from the undercarriage when they flew over the canal.
@@kellik5453 That was humor Kelly...
Oh wow! At 5:02! Yes, they rolled on the ground going over that road/canal! I don't think that was just hitting grass! Holy shit! How did they not eat the field then? This also shows more poor judgement on the part of this pilot! Damn.
@@stanktail absolutely heard stall warning.
I'd never even heard of this incident before, or read the NTSB report on it. However when I saw the low flight over the fields after the brush fire my first thought was 'they're going to hit lines'. Sure enough...
"Altitude above, runway behind, fuel at the pump station: Three most useless things for a pilot." This was an adage my flight instructor recited regularly to the new students.
Jeez…talk about a completely avoidable crash. Wtf was this guy thinking?
SMaze17 he was thinking "I should’ve went under. I’m about to soil myself." Both true, you enjoy one last dump (as long as you hadn’t taken a shit right before) when you die. If he survived he would’ve still soiled himself.
@@jrayner21679 You are a complete tit.
@@jrayner21679 degenerate
He was thinking "I'm gonna show off"
@@ChodeMaster
Why would you even guess as to who that guy is? Does feces exit your body when you die? Most likely, unless of course, you took a dump the night before. If it were me, I'd defecate. Dude's comment isn't bad people, it's the truth. That's the problem with Earth. Humans want everything sugar-coated and half-assed. The guy spoke the truth and you people decided it was a good time to call names and be typical humans. Stand out, be original, and keep scrolling. Just because you can bully other people online easier, doesn't make it right. Name calling is bullying too. Stop being a bully ..cyber-type
As a CFI I am saddened by this tragedy for several reasons,
1. A perfectly fine aircraft was destroyed
2.Somewhere out there is an instructor who failed in his duty to teach this pilot responsibility and respect, often due to lack of proper example
3.A trusting passenger paid the ultimate price
Only his parents can teach him responsibility and respect, it has nothing to do with the instructor. A person can always fake responsibility and respect. Actually the only person to blame here is the pilot himself.
The only thing I can agree with you on is that it's a tragedy and really sad what happened, :(.
regardless of the CFI, some people simply lack the proper judgement to be a pilot, regardless of their physical ability.
Nobody taught me respect and I’m the most respectable person I know. I’m tired of people saying that only someone’s “parents” or “the bible” can teach people manners, respect, morals, etc. This is complete BS. You can observe a situation and know how you should react. Empathy, silence, understanding, honesty - these are values that should come natural to most depending on the situation. We’re not programmed robots, well some of us are but not most.
I believe I saw an antenna at 5:17. Can't tell if it was a factor. He was not flying slowly, maybe even over maneuvering speed. Meaning that nearing stall AOA can result in structural damage before a stall occurs. He was moving right along, ground effect probably helping a little.
Depending on what was nearby but not visible, he didn't bust minimum safe altitude, it doesn't apply over water or sparsely populated areas. Although doing so within 500 ft of that antenna is a problem.
"Careless or reckless operation" ? Hard to deny that when you crash, regardless of why.
Yes, the fear heard at the end is sad to listen to.
I'm sorry, condolences. I remember first training in a 152 basically the same as a 150, my instructor said something odd. "This is a very forgiving aircraft, you have to work hard to crash one of these."😢
"Don't be a dick" basically.. especially behind a yolk
My Good old flight instructor always said to me this :
"There are old pilots and bold pilots, but no old, bold pilots".
The spookiest part of this video, for me, was their screams in the last couple of seconds...
Well yeah... the part where they died was the “spookiest” part...
@@theflanman420420 I'd been trying to find this video again, on and off, for 6 years. Thanks for commenting.
@@sends2aaron wow you actually are here after 6 years
I cannot believe this. Being a GFPT going on PPL, I was squirming at the low altitude. Raising the nose into a steep climb was only going to end one way. The sight of that left wing drop, knowing the plane was so low made me shudder. Bloody shame.
"It's not how close you get to the ground, but how precise can you fly the airplane..."
- Bob Hoover
I don't know the 150's are a low powered plane and the dead air drops combined with that close to the ground is so dangerous to get out of.
@@allenelswick6961 I agree. I think I was trying to be funny. The pilot had no business trying to be hot-dogging in an airplane like that so close to the ground. I get the impression he did quite a wing-over and lost too much airspeed.
Precise grammar would be "...but how precisely you can fly the airplane..."
They were being silly, probably very young, and they paid the ultimate price. Rest in peace, condolences to the family
Play dumb games, win dumb prizes.
One thing I learned about flying 150's. Never over. They can barely keep themselves in the air with that 100hp engine.
The 150 I soloed in 531M crashed after a bird strike through the windshield. The drag of the hole in the windshield was too much even at full throttle. Crashed just shy of the runway in a tomato field. Instructor got hit with shrapnel and the plants caught the nose wheel and made it flip. The student only had minor injuries.
That burning fire on the ground should have been a warning.
A final destination, chaos approaching...there is mathematically more chaos around the area than just one spot... This is how the Universe works i guess... this is part of so called Physics of Chaos.
@@VendPrekmurec we could also call it "the ignorance of the human mind"
@@patrikpass2962 Ignorance creates more chaos indeed.
@@VendPrekmurec Chaos is a subjective word, there is no physics of chaos, its just physics...
@@patrikpass2962 You do not know what you are talking about. Have you ever heard about Theory of Chaos in Physics? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_theory It is part of Physics, just like Special or General Relativity or Quantum Physics.
What alarms me is that the rental club allowed him to fly one of their aircraft on what appears to be a 7 year old medical certificate. Today, they're good for 3 years, but back in 1987 they were only good for two. Even so.... seven years? And nobody checked on that?
Just curious, where did you get this footage?
There you go.... This vid needs to be played in every briefing room in the country on a loop.
Oh it does but There was still people saying I won't happen to me, No matter how many videos they watch
No Cessna 150/152 can climb after that. Power on stall occured. Fly like a maniac, you end up hitting the ground.
Also broke FAA rules flying under 500 AGL
+daz knight While it was stupid indeed, he actually did not break the rules flying under 500 AGL. That rule applies to "populated" areas, which this is not. Thus, this rule applies: "Over Open Water or Sparsely Populated Areas - an altitude allowing for a linear distance greater than 500 feet from any person, vessel, vehicle, or structure"...and..."Anywhere: an altitude allowing a safe emergency landing without undue hazard to person or property on the ground." I'd say generally both of those conditions were met in this video. Of course, the flying was still ridiculous, no disagreement there. Just wanted to clarify the rules, which vary depending on population density.
Hey why not tell us what the fucking rule is instead of making me Google it? Boob.
A video every new pilot should watch, a lot of good comments and wisdom here.
My first instructor told me a private pilots lic was only a piece of paper to prove to the FAA that one time in your life you could fly a plane safe . I went on the get coomercial , IFR , and CFI rating . Was learning still when I stopped flying .
I'm curious what happened to the camera, why the screen gets so full of static after the passenger says "over." The NTSB report says there's a vertical view of the ground until impact...well, I just don't see that because of all the static. In fact, I just can barely see one power pole for an instant and just a little bit of left rotation before static obscures everything.
The 150/152s are the hardest of all aircraft to crash. But it can be done in the right hands.
Sounds like young pilot and passenger on board and they thought it was so cool toward the end until that stall warning sounded and they suddenly stalled out. It was too late then! I was a student pilot back in the 80's and the first thing I learned was that you needed at LEAST 1,000 feet to recover from a stall, as that's a maneuver that all prospective pilots must learn, to stall the airplane and to recover from the stall. This poor pilot and his passenger didn't have a chance thanks to what seemed to me that he wanted to make a big impression. What a senseless tragedy!
200 feet is plenty to recover from a stall but it is not recommend to practice stalls 1500` AGL for solo flights
Emery Board Also, he has poor flying skills. Anyone who has learned aerobatics, (most don't) know that you cannot stall at 0g. It looks as though he pulls up nearly vertical and loses speed faster than he expected. An aggressive push to 0g and we would not be watching this film today. He had to have gained the 200 feet in the high speed pull up before the stall/spin. I have no doubt that just a touch of skill would have saved the day. Bet he had full aileron in as well which causes adverse yaw and helps tremendously with the spin entry! Ailerons are a no-no when below the stall speed. You need rudder to lift the low wing. This is exactly why airshow pilots need waivers to fly low. Supreme mastery of ones aircraft is required when operating low to the ground. I love aerobatics and am good at them however, I still like 3,000 feet between myself and terra firma just in case. I fly rental planes like this one, and you never know what stress the previous pilot put on it. I want room to use the parachute I am sitting on. I had a harness fail once that put my head through the skylight of a Cessna Aerobat at pattern altitude executing a four point hesitation roll. We almost died after falling inverted 700 feet! My legs were LAYING on the bottom of the yoke making it hard for my instructor (who suggested the maneuver right before landing) to roll the plane upright. Needless to say, we survived and we also got a new window to replace the old suncrazed skylight.
ConvairDart106 I hope your instructor learned a lesson. Go find a different aerobatic instructor if you continue your flying education. The following from AOPA is worth thinking about: " There is a profound saying, not original, that two of the following are required: airspeed, altitude, or brains. Put another way, high and fast is safe while low or slow ups the risk equation significantly. Aerobatics conducted in the right kind of aircraft, with the right kind of training, with the right kind of altitude are done daily and with a high degree of safety. On a per-hour basis, I suspect the risk is somewhat higher than non-aerobatic flight, but certainly acceptable. Trouble starts when one of the three conditions isn't met. Leave out just one and the risk-o-meter pegs in the red zone."
Jimmy Morris
You hit it RIGHT on the head Jimmy!!
@@michaelbigelow3255 First off, I'm NOT a pilot!! Second, I was a STUDENT pilot back in 1983 and flew on a Cherokee 140 low wing. single-prop plane! Three, when learning to do power-off, power-on and other stalls, the instructor told me that 1000 feet was used as a safety practice to do stalls and that's what I was informed!!
As a safety window, 1,000 ft was used. It did NOT mean that 1,000 ft was the amount of feet needed to recover because obviously you would be dead! Remember, Cessna's are high-wing aircrafts and are "forgiving" when it comes to stalls while the plane I flew would "drop like a rock" and was a low-wing aircraft!
I rode co-pilot in a Cessna back then and asked the pilot to do a power-off stall and he told me it was hard to stall it and he demonstrated it!! The nose "mushed." A power-on stall would have stalled it for sure which he didn't do!
The superior pilot uses his superior knowledge to avoid situations that require his superior skills.
where did you get this video from? this accident sounds and looks very familiar to a video i briefly heard of where the lives of the pilot and student got killed, it happen in south texas many years ago close to almost 20 to be exact,if this is the video im shocked that this video is on you tube, this video was in possession of the local sheriff dept and then the ntsb, the voice in the video saying upper or lower is that of frank the pilot.
You were given a certificate. How did you veer that far from being a responsible, safe pilot?!
The level of recklessness encompasses some of these people after they obtain it. No different than how my cousin who’s been flying for 20 years no longer does pre-flights. He checks the oil AFTER he lands and just jumps right in and flys away the next flight and he does this between runs of Houston and Austin for his business. And I will also never fly with him as long as I live either. We jumped in my Cherokee one day for a $100 hamburger at a nearby airport and he made the comment “you actually do all that preflight nonsense”. I had already made the decision prior to this day that I would never fly with him again as a Second decision that he would never fly with me was made at that moment also. We never flew together again nor will we ever after that. He’s got over 1100 logged and somehow hasn’t killed himself yet. That’s YET.
The passenger had complete faith in the pilot. When the pilot pulled up the passenger laughed and hooted.
I hooted along with them!
Ignorance is bliss..😢
What month and year did this happen?
Not fake. I am a CFI and check pilot for a part 141 school. In this video, the pilot entered a stall and spin. Before the video cut out, as the airplane began to stall, you can see it break left into the beginning of a spin. It's no joke, the feelings and forces are intense, even when you're at 4000'. That, combined with the camera operator most likely flailing his VIDEO TAPE camera probably caused the video cut out. That and also potential damage to unreeled tape getting damaged in the crash.
the passenger/student dropped the video camera. when the pilot pulled out of the low pass at a 60 degree climb, as a reaction student reached over to grab on to something to hold on, student unfortunately grabbed the wheel as leverage causing the plane to climb to an almost 90 degree realizing what just happened student dropped the camera
This accident is simply mind blowing. Pulling back in the stick that hard at low altitude in a Cessna 150 will only have one fast inevitable outcome.
It looked like a stall but a pullup like that could really overstress the wings. Was there any determination as to what brought the plane down besides the crazy move by the pilot?
@@palindrome1959 you can hear the stall warning. Stalled, flipped, boom. Just what you would expect.
I was 11 years old and had enough sense to tell my grandfather pilot that planes were meant to fly way up in the sky and not too close to the ground. I read through my older brother's training book.
I flew low twice (excepting landings and TO), and both times nearly got killed- once chasing antelope, damn near collided with a fence, the other chasing jack rabbits and was surprised by a flood control dam- I cleared it by less than a few inches, and jamming the throttle forward, I nearly stalled the engine, very nearly crashing before it caught to full revs- that cured me of low flying for the rest of my twenty years flying private. People die in airplanes for screwing around!
Angel on your shoulders ❤
This reminds me of all my friends driving their cars as fast as they could and me saying "is this little bit of fun worth the risk?" So careless.
Cars are completely different
@@Gamerboy-gy1rl I think you’re missing their point. Planes and cars can both crash from being irresponsible. If an idiot is being irresponsible, they might crash and die. Those are the risks of being a risk-driven idiot. Someone drifting at 60mph on residential cul-de-sacs in a car is the same as pitching full nose up and stalling because they decided to fly their plane “crop duster style” as the passenger in this video said.
@@TitaniumTurbine no just no 😭
@@TitaniumTurbine Yeah. He definitely missed my point. Taking a risk and "losing control" whether it be a plane or car is not worth it to get a little bit of a rush like these guys did.
Every pilot should watch this. An excellent example of how not to fly an airplane. Anyway, RIP to them.
We used to go to 3 thousand feet AGL north of Meacham Field in Ft Worth to do stalls. 200 feet AGL seems a bit low.
From elation to pure terror in a second. Chilling indeed.
a great pilot once said, "It's not how close can you get to the ground, but how precise can you fly the airplane."
Bob Hoover
I've flown airplanes all the way down to the ground!
The Cessna 150 is one of the easiest planes to fly, being inherently stable when properly trimmed. I have spun that plane hundreds of times..to the right, to the left, power on, power off, etc. You almost have to force it into a stall or spin…and usually the quickest initial way out of either is forward yoke.
I agree that Cessna planes need to be forced into a spin, but as for a stall, that's pretty easy to do. In the 172 I've flown, whether full power or idle, you just need to pull back on the yoke and don't let up. Eventually the speed drops to the point that the wings lose lift, and the aerodynamic stall occurs. Not that difficult to achieve. But yeah, forward yoke to recover, but also if the plane banks to the right or left during the stall, one must correct it with rudder input, and NOT ailerons! Using ailerons to correct the banking during a stall is how you end up putting it into a spin, as you now have one wing more stalled than the other.
Push the nose down, opposite rudder.
What a thrilling thing to see stupid go down in flames and horror. Stupidity-- the most abundant element in the universe.
Forgive me. My love for horror movies. We all go to see things like this on Tv or the theatres. So it must be normal.
@@kentduryea7109 "Stupidity-- the most abundant element in the universe. Yet you seem to have the most of it.
@@kentduryea7109 "Stupidity-- the most abundant element in the universe. " And yet you seem to have the most of it!
How can review it, when we didnt see that post stall aftermath?
I know exactly what the pilot messed up, he didn’t push the nose over early enough after that climb. I sometimes fly a “victory takeoff” where I pick up speed low and then pull up to ~20-25 degrees for a split second, but I never, ever let the speed get below Vy. Not Vx, but Vy so that if I have a huge safety margin. I also only do this at one airport that had nothing but smooth feilds in front of the runway. He pitched up way too high, held it way too long, and used it to clear an obstacle, then likely didn’t recovered from the stall as well as he could have. Such a tragedy, so completely and totally avoidable, and a horrible example of complacency and poor judgment.
This is what we mean by stalling at ANY airspeed!
In Canada we have to do spins and spirals on purpose as part of the training. Pull up, lose speed, then comes the stall horn as you start rocking and pitch over to the left most times. Engine to idle step on the rudder to kill the spin and pull out the dive. You lose about 1000 feet on average by the time you’re level again. I suspect they hit the ground before the initial rollover completed and hit the nose and left wing first.
Kind of like the motorcycle riding school I attended (SoCalif). Had ridden dirt bikes from birth but wanted a Harley. They taught us how to maneuver a "controlled crash", we had an obstacle course we had to maneuver that was timed (had to beat a certain time), also a controlled skid from 50mph keeping the skid straight. My husband utilized the crash maneuver early one morning on the freeway when we were traveling at 70mph. A large wheelbarrow fell off a truck & was bouncing all around. We hit it but didnt lose control bc of our teaching. We did pull over to assess damage to the bike, $1500. One handle tried to enter the rear wheel spokes, but hit the frame right behind my foot peg. Training pays off.
You forgot ‘Ailerons Neutral’….and ‘Nose Down’ (to break the stall).
Thanks for the lesson, but you aren't going to recover from a spin at 50ft agl.
Did they hit the power lines or did they stall at such a low altitude and couldn’t recover after pulling back to climb over them? I heard the stall warning.
Totally inexcusable. At least the plane didn't come down on a house with people inside.
That's how you can fly a fighter jet, not a Cessna 150.
My dad trained me to fly, i always remember him saying, altitude is like insurance, the more you have the safer you are, to bad these 2 didn't know that.
Same exact thing for me, but my dads advice was always "airspeed is life".. I thank God I have a father who loved aviation but also is a "by the book" guy.
The pilot knew. He had a commercial license. When he started to climb, the passenger tried to steady himself & grabbed the wheel by mistake- pulling it all the way back. Thats when he dropped the camcorder.
@@proudgrandma138 of this video?
Why did the video cut out ? I mean i don’t want to see the exact second of impact but would like to see what exactly happened. Stall ?
The video cut out because the video was heavily damaged (VHS - This is 1994) and they had to splice the tape in order to get the audio (and somewhat video). You can see the plane stall towards the ground in a little opening in the static at 5:29
My Grandfather was a farmer in Indiana, but he also had a small airport and a plane. He also gave flying lessons to local residents. One of his students, on his first flight after getting his license, buzzed his girlfriend's house and crashed and killed himself. I love airplanes but besides not being able to afford private plane flight, I think it is a little too risky, I only fly remote control airplanes and a crash only hurts my ego and nothing else. This video was absolutely horrible in the end, but it was caused by the same behavior that killed my grandfathers student.
Should've chosen under.
Wrong, should have chosen being higher in the first place.
@1:20 Look at the vertical lines of paint chips on the vertical stab along the stringers and also the paint chipped where it meets the tail of the fuselage. That shows some serious stress. I wonder what the top of the wings look like? obviously that pilot has been hot dogging this plane a lot... I'm an instructor pilot and teach my students to look for this stuff during pre-flight. Had I noticed that , on that day I would have NOT gotten in that plane or any plane with that pilot.
It was a rental
When did this happen, and where?
Experience is a fierce teacher. It will give you the test before the lesson. RIP