That amount of blood makes me sick physically. That poor woman. And her kids have to live with this all their lives.. Thank God for the nanny that has stayed and helped grandma. What am awesome friend.
Totally a waste of time…repeating or asking the same questions that the prosecutor asked on direct. And, the only thing he queries is the trivial and mundane that provides no defense for his client.
I am so impressed by the poise and professionalism of Ms Streeter, the Social Worker who testified. She did not allow the Defense Attorney to intimidate or goat her into making statements that were not her own. The defense attorney often speaks entirely TOO LOUDLY to the witnesses during his cross examination, especially given how close he stands to the witness box vs the Prosecutors. It is off-putting to me so I imagine the some jurors feel the same way.
I don't think it's just the defense. Yesterday, the prosecution spent literally a whole day with witnesses not one of which had a single relevant piece of evidence against the defendant.
Seriously he had to not only kill the mother of his children, his wife but he had to get rid of her in such a way that her children can’t even go to a place and talk to her if they wanted, he couldn’t have thrown her feminine product away in the home bathroom or something. (I know I sound ridiculous but my god he’s one of the cruelest people I’ve seen) Let’s add to the situation that he’s a coward and took himself out as well again couldn’t give his children even a hint where their mom is.
I literally cannot believe that this defense attorney spent ANY amount of time questioning a witness about salad, bread and chocolate Easter bunnies. Imagine spending money and time on a law degree to show up at a murder trial and have the audacity to question someone about snacks. How embarrassing for you, dude.
if he is worried about how much the jurors have to review. maybe he should be more selective and limit his objections. I think he is a control freak and should let the judge control his own courtroom. Good analogy of the music style by the judge.
Should the Prosecution be playing in to the jury a little more? I’d be falling asleep as a juror. I’d want more acting, more personality. Convince me, alongside the evidence, that we’re here for the heinous, destructive conniving act Michelle was partly responsible for. The murder of an innocent mother who left five minor children without parents. This feels so sterile and disconnected.
the witness is solid ,the defense attorney has acomplished the opossite like always . by know the judge and the jurors ate done with what he has to say.⚖️
I believe that they had to have some type of evidence in order to be able to bring this into a trial. It would not of been approved otherwise. Something big may be getting ready to be brought out. Also everyone knows that she may not have actually killed Jennifer but she knew what the bf was planning I mean she was sleeping with the devil. I mean he left her to go through all of this on her own what a punk this man was
Tacoma truck owner gonna throw her and fotis lawyer under bus. His lawyer also charged with conspiracy. Truck owner given immunity so yes I believe something big on the way!!!
How could she not know..Jennifer is missing..cleaning blood, dumping trash bags all over town, stuffing things down water drains..has anyone read why he so brutally killed her..
@@ritaeichler2066 Thanks Rita..someone had posted he wanted to get the kids trust accounts, someone else posted he had 300.00 in his account, not sure what would be true, he had to be smarter than this, he seemed so agitated at the Starbucks..so hard to believe he chose this way in her own house of all the ways.
With a defence lawyer like that I would've rather saved my money an got public defender who could've done same job or even better than this guy talking about chocolate bunnies and or kids using plates and cups. But I'm sure he's laughing all the way to the bank.
I agree with defense on this point . Prosecution went thru so much evidence & exhibits yesterday that had no fingerprints or evidentiary value ! Its quite monotenous!!
There were no impressions and prints left because FD and MT cleaned up the entire scene. That is what the jury will realize. Especially despite their attempts to extensively clean the scene, there remained the fingerprints on the duct tape that the forensic lab was able to pull and the prints matched Fotis!
@@tinapimentel3709 that doesnt prove Michelle cleaned up anything thus far..at this point jury knows fotis did this But how does it implicate Michelle ? None of her impressions or prints so far
@@ritaeichler2066 it’s too early in the prosecution to say one way or another, not all evidence and testimonies are in yet - but if they didn’t have strong evidence, they wouldn’t have been able to charge her. They do have something.
Why was the evidence trolley not brought to the front 🙄 talk about time wasting, going back and forward , and no table for the expert to unpack evidence! Having to scramble around on the floor 🤣This really is pathetic 🤦♀️
What are thoughts on ms troconis.?? Did she really have no clue or question all the trash bags etc being dropped off. 😳changing her story to them showering (tmi) and then not ? I hope this doesn’t drag on. So curious to see what the jury decides. I had hoped she would know where Jennifer’s body is. That poor family.
I didn't realize MT was with Fotis immediately after the murder going to wash that pickup that had Jennifer's blood in it, I was on the fence in the beginning but after learning that and that her DNA was in a couple bags where she tied them I don't see how she couldn't know, I also didn't realize she continued dating Fotis for 5 months after the murder, sorry but if I'm dating someone and their wife goes missing and they ask me to lie and say we were together during the time she went missing... that's sketchy AF and I'm leaving!! Immediately!! So in my opinion I think she 100% knew. Her and her daughter made themselves quite comfortable in Jennifer's house with Jennifer's husband but Jennifer wasn't going to continue footing the bill for them to live there so they took her out. They planned it together in my opinion and from the way she was so offended when the police accidentally called her Jennifer it's apparent to me she really hated Jennifer and therefore I don't think she'll ever tell where Fotis put the body. I also found it odd her daughter was going to be late that night due to being in a play at school but MT didn't feel the need to watch her daughter even though she seems to be a loving hands on mom. It's all too convenient.
First time in a case I’ve started thinking she was guilty but now thinking she may not have known or done anything. The defense atty was annoying but he has made some good points. She seemed to want to help and was swayed by what the police were saying to her and wanted to please them by agreeing that maybe she did or didn’t do something depending on what they were saying. That many interrogators at once would confuse and intimidate me. Bothered me that they used the ruse even though I understand they are allowed to. At this point the state hasn’t shown enough so I’m on the fence. It’s interesting to see people’s comments about her guilt without hearing everything.
@@cathytakeda7104I agree. I’m not so sure anymore that she did it or knew anything . I think after hearing the trial daily that he did it and was very clever and didn’t trust even Michelle to tell her. Either way even if she knows something there’s no way she is going to tell. That’s just what I feel. This is gonna be a longer trial than what we thought. So sad for the children and for Jennifer’s parents. Tragic
Soooo, I started watching this trial on day 1 and have seen every day of this so far. I haven't looked up any news stories or background on any of this; I'm just watching it as a juror would to see what kind of case the State can bring. We're on day 15 of this trial - I have seen quite a bit of evidence that Jennfer was murd*red, that her husband is likely responsible, but that's pretty much it. Michelle still has (as of yet) a completely unknown role in all of this. She wrote a timeline of events for March 24th, 2019 (that's weird), she was in the truck with Fotis when the black bags with damning evidence were discarded in town, but that's basically all that they have shown so far. Kinda weird to be this far into the trial and they still basically have nothing on Michelle. We'll see where the State goes with all of this when it comes to Michelle, but I'm not convinced so far that she had a role in anything at this point.
Good lord! Do the chocolate bunnies really matter? Size, the reason Fotis had the bunnies, that Jennifer was given a portion of the chocolate bunny, etc... Like, seriously? Shut up already, guy!
The defence Att is trying to enter testimony from social worker that Futis could have gone inside the house and touched the the tap and/or garage on that day. It's only her account that he didn't go inside.
They weren’t rich her parents were. Now her mother is almost broke from the cost of legal affairs. I worked with her brothers wife Liz Clairborne for 25 years. They are wonderful people. When the kids lose Gloria they have no one else. This guy destroyed the life’s this entire family. He killed his meal ticket. What the hell was gained by doing any of this? @@betty-janececile5214
Judge must be a musician - he drew a musical analogy between the state's presentation of evidence (most of which was irrelevant) and quarter notes, eighth notes and 16th notes, and he also asked the forensic expert to speak at a "moderate tempo,."
How did he kill her? So much blood but no stab marks or gun shot holes in clothing? Maybe neck wound or head wound via gun or hard object 🤷♀️. 😞 so sad
COME ON SHOENHORNE, YOUR CLIENT IS BUSTED...SAYING SHE DOESN'T UNDERSTAND ENGLISH IS A ROUSE AND AN EXCUSE. THE PROSECUTORS HIT HOME RUNS ON THIS TRIAL. I AM A MEDIUM, JENNIFER FARBER DULOS IS CHOPPED UP, IN THAT RESOVIOUR AND PART IN A POND..2 HOURS AWAY FROM NEW CANNAN. I GOT A LATE START IN WATCHING THE ENTIRE TRIAL
This is the best judge I've ever seen!! He doesn't miss a beat!!!
That amount of blood makes me sick physically. That poor woman. And her kids have to live with this all their lives.. Thank God for the nanny that has stayed and helped grandma. What am awesome friend.
Defense lawyer asks questions that have no relevance. What’s the point of all his dragged out details ugh
To confuse the jury
and they are the same questions that were asked before
Trying to divert the jury
Totally a waste of time…repeating or asking the same questions that the prosecutor asked on direct. And, the only thing he queries is the trivial and mundane that provides no defense for his client.
How do the jurors and the judge stay alert. I am impressed how the judge makes rulings; he doesn't seem to miss a word.
Experience
Judge is great!
He must have a encyclopedia memory. It is insane how his mind remembers anything from the long-winded, double-talking Schoenhorn.
I find it hard to believe that Michelle doesn't know where Jennifer is. She is totally GUILTY.
I don't see the evidence beyond a doubt. Not yet
So guilty
The Judge should teach law school he’s teaching these lawyers how to do their job. I’ve never saw a judge do that.
Absolutely!! He is remarkable
He’s far too involved explaining imo! He is not in a teaching role here 🤦♀️
Ya he can just say sustained or overruled
There are different ways and rules in CT
The social workers testimony and physical appearance has been of the utmost professionalism.
I am so impressed by the poise and professionalism of Ms Streeter, the Social Worker who testified. She did not allow the Defense Attorney to intimidate or goat her into making statements that were not her own. The defense attorney often speaks entirely TOO LOUDLY to the witnesses during his cross examination, especially given how close he stands to the witness box vs the Prosecutors. It is off-putting to me so I imagine the some jurors feel the same way.
"We've heard about salad 3 times"... what a judge, what a judge👍
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Waste of time she is guilty she knows exactly what happened and helped him dispose and wash the vehicle
The defense attorney is going to make this trial last forever
I don't think it's just the defense. Yesterday, the prosecution spent literally a whole day with witnesses not one of which had a single relevant piece of evidence against the defendant.
@@dowaliby1 There will be a reason why this was done, it wouldnt have been done otherwise..
@@shaylynned8786 Logic would seem to dictate that there would be a reason. I'll be interested to see how it all ties together.
By the end of the trial the Jury is going to hate this guy.
Or, another will be fed up and need to leave the country….🙄
I also think he is wearing the Judge thin..
They hate him already most likely
Seriously he had to not only kill the mother of his children, his wife but he had to get rid of her in such a way that her children can’t even go to a place and talk to her if they wanted, he couldn’t have thrown her feminine product away in the home bathroom or something. (I know I sound ridiculous but my god he’s one of the cruelest people I’ve seen) Let’s add to the situation that he’s a coward and took himself out as well again couldn’t give his children even a hint where their mom is.
Defense lawyer is a jerk
He’s just hoping he gets paid….
I literally cannot believe that this defense attorney spent ANY amount of time questioning a witness about salad, bread and chocolate Easter bunnies. Imagine spending money and time on a law degree to show up at a murder trial and have the audacity to question someone about snacks. How embarrassing for you, dude.
Defense is a total dull, pain in the butt. I can't even watch it when he speaks. He is so annoying. Can't find his way out of a paperbag.
Completely agree. It is so painful to listen to him bungle his way thru. Ugh!
It’s all about transfer dna
And playing basketball lol
Wow now that’s important 😂
But did she eat any cake?! 🤦🏻♀️
if he is worried about how much the jurors have to review. maybe he should be more selective and limit his objections. I think he is a control freak and should let the judge control his own courtroom. Good analogy of the music style by the judge.
If defence Att doesn't object and put it on record Michelle could say he is an incompetent attorney.
The defense is no good! It’s obvious what happened here!!!!😢 poor lady is dead!
Should the Prosecution be playing in to the jury a little more? I’d be falling asleep as a juror. I’d want more acting, more personality. Convince me, alongside the evidence, that we’re here for the heinous, destructive conniving act Michelle was partly responsible for. The murder of an innocent mother who left five minor children without parents. This feels so sterile and disconnected.
This defense lawyer is so annoying all ways in conflict.I feel sorry for the jurors.
the witness is solid ,the defense attorney has acomplished the opossite like always . by know the judge and the jurors ate done with what he has to say.⚖️
Why is the lawyer annoying the judge and jury with the irrelevant questions?
I believe that they had to have some type of evidence in order to be able to bring this into a trial. It would not of been approved otherwise. Something big may be getting ready to be brought out. Also everyone knows that she may not have actually killed Jennifer but she knew what the bf was planning I mean she was sleeping with the devil. I mean he left her to go through all of this on her own what a punk this man was
m. torconis is not naive and decided to assist him in the murder. they are both Evil. imo
Tacoma truck owner gonna throw her and fotis lawyer under bus. His lawyer also charged with conspiracy. Truck owner given immunity so yes I believe something big on the way!!!
Pawel is gonna bring it.
Defense will object to everything and I hope the judge tells him to sit down!
What does this have to do with anything?????
He's trying to establish touch dna was transfered from the cake box to the faucet in the kitchen. That's how fortis DNA was found in the home
How could she not know..Jennifer is missing..cleaning blood, dumping trash bags all over town, stuffing things down water drains..has anyone read why he so brutally killed her..
He wanted custody & control & money. It had to be his way or the hwy
@@ritaeichler2066 Thanks Rita..someone had posted he wanted to get the kids trust accounts, someone else posted he had 300.00 in his account, not sure what would be true, he had to be smarter than this, he seemed so agitated at the Starbucks..so hard to believe he chose this way in her own house of all the ways.
With a defence lawyer like that I would've rather saved my money an got public defender who could've done same job or even better than this guy talking about chocolate bunnies and or kids using plates and cups. But I'm sure he's laughing all the way to the bank.
Another classy, professional woman with good detailed testimony.
I agree with defense on this point . Prosecution went thru so much evidence & exhibits yesterday that had no fingerprints or evidentiary value ! Its quite monotenous!!
Yes, total bs, dazzle dazzle. The prosecution is prosecuting a dead man. Very unfair.
These prosecution questions…. What kind of cake was it?? Total bs!!
There were no impressions and prints left because FD and MT cleaned up the entire scene. That is what the jury will realize. Especially despite their attempts to extensively clean the scene, there remained the fingerprints on the duct tape that the forensic lab was able to pull and the prints matched Fotis!
@@tinapimentel3709 that doesnt prove Michelle cleaned up anything thus far..at this point jury knows fotis did this But how does it implicate Michelle ? None of her impressions or prints so far
@@ritaeichler2066 it’s too early in the prosecution to say one way or another, not all evidence and testimonies are in yet - but if they didn’t have strong evidence, they wouldn’t have been able to charge her. They do have something.
I know he is only doing his job but - day-yam - is he on an hourly rate??
He has to object or it’s not allowed in appeal.
he has to show who ever is paying for him he is working hard 😅😂
Juana…I thought the same!
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When the judge was getting aggravated It was giving lol the defense is much to do about nothing.. the judge we heard about bread 3 times 😂😂
Why was the evidence trolley not brought to the front 🙄 talk about time wasting, going back and forward , and no table for the expert to unpack evidence! Having to scramble around on the floor 🤣This really is pathetic 🤦♀️
But what was in the salad? What kind of bread was it? WHAT FLAVOUR WAS THE GODDAMN CAKE??? 😱😱😱😱
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What are thoughts on ms troconis.?? Did she really have no clue or question all the trash bags etc being dropped off. 😳changing her story to them showering (tmi) and then not ? I hope this doesn’t drag on. So curious to see what the jury decides. I had hoped she would know where Jennifer’s body is. That poor family.
She might know but will never tell
I didn't realize MT was with Fotis immediately after the murder going to wash that pickup that had Jennifer's blood in it, I was on the fence in the beginning but after learning that and that her DNA was in a couple bags where she tied them I don't see how she couldn't know, I also didn't realize she continued dating Fotis for 5 months after the murder, sorry but if I'm dating someone and their wife goes missing and they ask me to lie and say we were together during the time she went missing... that's sketchy AF and I'm leaving!! Immediately!! So in my opinion I think she 100% knew. Her and her daughter made themselves quite comfortable in Jennifer's house with Jennifer's husband but Jennifer wasn't going to continue footing the bill for them to live there so they took her out. They planned it together in my opinion and from the way she was so offended when the police accidentally called her Jennifer it's apparent to me she really hated Jennifer and therefore I don't think she'll ever tell where Fotis put the body. I also found it odd her daughter was going to be late that night due to being in a play at school but MT didn't feel the need to watch her daughter even though she seems to be a loving hands on mom. It's all too convenient.
First time in a case I’ve started thinking she was guilty but now thinking she may not have known or done anything. The defense atty was annoying but he has made some good points. She seemed to want to help and was swayed by what the police were saying to her and wanted to please them by agreeing that maybe she did or didn’t do something depending on what they were saying. That many interrogators at once would confuse and intimidate me. Bothered me that they used the ruse even though I understand they are allowed to. At this point the state hasn’t shown enough so I’m on the fence. It’s interesting to see people’s comments about her guilt without hearing everything.
@@cathytakeda7104I agree. I’m not so sure anymore that she did it or knew anything . I think after hearing the trial daily that he did it and was very clever and didn’t trust even Michelle to tell her. Either way even if she knows something there’s no way she is going to tell. That’s just what I feel. This is gonna be a longer trial than what we thought.
So sad for the children and for Jennifer’s parents. Tragic
@@Fay_F_2 it is sad and wish they could find her and lay her to rest.
Soooo, I started watching this trial on day 1 and have seen every day of this so far. I haven't looked up any news stories or background on any of this; I'm just watching it as a juror would to see what kind of case the State can bring. We're on day 15 of this trial - I have seen quite a bit of evidence that Jennfer was murd*red, that her husband is likely responsible, but that's pretty much it. Michelle still has (as of yet) a completely unknown role in all of this. She wrote a timeline of events for March 24th, 2019 (that's weird), she was in the truck with Fotis when the black bags with damning evidence were discarded in town, but that's basically all that they have shown so far. Kinda weird to be this far into the trial and they still basically have nothing on Michelle. We'll see where the State goes with all of this when it comes to Michelle, but I'm not convinced so far that she had a role in anything at this point.
Why was this the only witness that changed gloves when handling different items
She’s smart
Good lord! Do the chocolate bunnies really matter? Size, the reason Fotis had the bunnies, that Jennifer was given a portion of the chocolate bunny, etc... Like, seriously? Shut up already, guy!
The defence Att is trying to enter testimony from social worker that Futis could have gone inside the house and touched the the tap and/or garage on that day.
It's only her account that he didn't go inside.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the jury finds her guilty just for hiring this lawyer to torment them.
I’d love to know how much these supervised visits were costing they would not be cheap
$75/hr.
They were very rich and could well afford it
They weren’t rich her parents were. Now her mother is almost broke from the cost of legal affairs. I worked with her brothers wife Liz Clairborne for 25 years. They are wonderful people. When the kids lose Gloria they have no one else. This guy destroyed the life’s this entire family. He killed his meal ticket. What the hell was gained by doing any of this?
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The Defense attorney moments take quite some time!!!! Bunch of nonsense about the food! Get to the POINT! The judge who is awesome has SPOKEN!
Omg the defence are absolutely useless
Judge must be a musician - he drew a musical analogy between the state's presentation of evidence (most of which was irrelevant) and quarter notes, eighth notes and 16th notes, and he also asked the forensic expert to speak at a "moderate tempo,."
…and possible a train conductor….referencing trains….choo choo!!
@@realresident1890 Haha. And maybe the conductor of an orchestra...
What’s she always hiding behind her hair for ??? Guilty much 🤷♀️
The defence reminds me of call Saul...
Ha! Total Saul Goodman vibes!
The defendant’s lawyer is a puts- and annoying!
Total whiner!!
Of Course he was on his best behavior it was a social worker watching him what the point of this I’m confused
Is Pawel up next? It’s gonna be a good one…I can feel it in my bones, girl !!
Troconis mention in 2 interviews that she had her period- who mentions such things? Interesting a panty liner found!
The defense attorney is a bit of a dork
Were the dishes disposable?
How did he kill her? So much blood but no stab marks or gun shot holes in clothing? Maybe neck wound or head wound via gun or hard object 🤷♀️. 😞 so sad
This defense attorney steps all over himself constantly. He is very annoying.
COME ON SHOENHORNE, YOUR CLIENT IS BUSTED...SAYING SHE DOESN'T UNDERSTAND ENGLISH IS A ROUSE AND AN EXCUSE. THE PROSECUTORS HIT HOME RUNS ON THIS TRIAL. I AM A MEDIUM, JENNIFER FARBER DULOS IS CHOPPED UP, IN THAT RESOVIOUR AND PART IN A POND..2 HOURS AWAY FROM NEW CANNAN. I GOT A LATE START IN WATCHING THE ENTIRE TRIAL
Omg look at her lawyer suit falling off of him!
The defense is losing weight from stress and it is showing…lol
Guilty AF
Watching paint dry
Her attorney is annoying AF!
I hope they find Jennifer's body,or something.
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