She's guilty! After today, I am convinced! That stunt yesterday showing a document that may contain a psychological evaluation regarding Jennifer is beyond sickening. I'm here to say, I don't care what mental health issues Jennifer may or may not have had, by all accounts, she was a wonderful loving adoring devoted mother to her 5 children! She was a good wife and mother! Her nanny described how wonderful she was with her 5 children who loved their mommy! MT not only stole Jennifer's life, she stole a mommy from her 5 children! It's so evil.
OMG… check out the Home Screen on her laptop…it looked like a group photo. Were they Jennifer’s children? Anybody know? I tried to zoom in… really cannot determine who it is.
@@HappyShackHomesteadit looks like it was a “family photo” of MT, FD, and all the kids. She made the comment to the GAL that she wouldn’t have moved if she knew that of all the legal custody drama between JD and FD and being excluded from their lives . FD told same GAL that his relationship with MT was suffering, they both planned to get JD out of the way. FD did it with her help after the fact!
@melissacraig6315Exactly right!!!! What about the results of Fotis psychological evaluation??? If he had one . The narcissist always points to the other person that they are crazy. In reality it is Fotis and Michelle that are the problem. Highly sick and manipulative people. They are poison.
@@realresident1890 ohhh.. WHY are they going back and forth, following each other, fireplace in warm weather? I think she may be very well screwed.. she did it.. helped him after for SURE..
And the smoke from the chimney at the other location.............Really??? Who uses the fireplace the end of May?? He was definitely destroying evidence.
@@dublintooSHE. SHE, Michelle Troconis was definitely destroying evidence in the fireplace. Fotis was NOT there at the time smoke was billowing from Fort Jefferson East Chimney. Death knell for Troconis. Smoking. Gun. 🔥🔥🔥
@@jane6989Share 😮😳🤢 That Fungus actually wanted Jennifer the 5 children himself his mistress & her daughter to remain living in Jefferson Crossing house TOGETHER as one big happy family 🤢🤢🤢 That was his long term goal, per the children's Guardian Ad Lietum Attorney Meehan 😮- As if were living in Iran or Pakistan. POV: He was discustingly selfish. Of course he wanted Jennifer s money, his Sl. UT .... could you even imagine that😳 I can't wrap my mind around how warped that is......
After today’s evidence I am convinced she was a co conspirator to murder JD. The cars going back and forth between the two properties and smoke coming out of the chimney are so obvious. They were both very busy.She said she went back once to get a mop.What could possibly be her explanation for that? The story presented with this evidence puts her assisting in the clean up. For me it’s a reasonable conclusion . Add the bin run and missing her child’s school performance that night .
17:30 court begins with Judge continuing discussion about investigation of defendent using laptop to reveal concealed document and mother's involvement 28:50 Scott B - security representative for bank survellience 40:00 Det Kimbell re: survellience footage and 3rd interrogation/interview of defendent 01:51:00 return from break 02:10:00 3rd interrogation video 02:59:00 -04:01:00 lunch; defense continues to request limiting Detective from stating his opinion about the defendent/what is shown in interrogation. 04:09:30 jury returns 05:25:30 - 05:59:00 prosecution motion to dismiss defense expert 06:09:40 return from break (I missed posting earlier this week because I resumed work from maternity leave)
Atty Sean McGuinness tells the judge that the defendant still will not let Jennifer rest. Powerful ! Quickly zoom in and watch how Judge Randolph starts rocking himself. 👀 ❤️🙏
That was an awesome if not a very sad statement. They should be filing for a search warrant to get her laptop. Hooray for Carrie Luft! I am surprised the judge didn't send MT's mother home. There was mention that this was a mental health evaluation page from a file that was sealed that MT was looking at?? I thought it was a page from a custody agreement that was put under seal?
I think part of the reason why it's so bad for us is that we are hearing a recording of the recording. The jury in the room is hearing it directly from the video. We get an extra layer of hearing it through youtube. It may not actually be that bad in the actual courtroom.
I think when she wrote that she was naked was code for she burned her clothes and washed off the blood. But I can't remember the exact time when she posted it.
She will be found guilty, as she is guilty. There is no way, she carries on this way without a thought that FD could have done this. She is lying!!! She’s guilty!!! Justice for Jennifer!!!
@@Sunn777 I’m not sure what your comment was supposed to say, but I started out fully thinking she was guilty. Since then, the state has only proven Fotis committed the murder. I have yet to see evidence that she conspired with him. I’m waiting for it, and hoping they pull out some amazing evidence. But just because I want her to be guilty, doesn’t mean she actually is.
@@BrandyLaneBLVDI see no proof beyond a reasonable doubt that she knew in advance. You have to prove prior knowledge of the scheme. What would prove it is if she is on surveillance buying things found in the trash at any stores prior to the murder. There is still a lot of reasonable doubt on the conspiracy. She’s guilty on the hindering and tampering-there’s solid proof of that beyond a reasonable doubt.
I’d rather have a root canal than listen to this defense attorney. He knows they messed up really really badly yesterday by giving MT sealed documents and her showing it in LARGE FONT to the gallery, so now he’s in panic mode. I was about to bounce but thank god the video started and I’m hoping he stops for a few minutes! 😂
Yeah that doesn’t ring credible. Michelle says her alarm clock in her bedroom w Fotis was automatically set to 6:30am. Every morning it goes off at 6:30am. Every morning someone has to turn it off. Michelle says she slept in her daughter’s room night before. Michelle says she can’t remember if when she went back to her & Fotis’ room that morning to shower…if the alarm was going off. Since no one was there (according to MT’s story) the alarm had to still be going off. That is definitely something that would register as memorable in the brain as very Odd. And it would make anyone else ask, “where is Fotis”? (If this was not a conspiracy between them.) The reason her saying she can’t remember is problematic is because she was interviewed right away after 5/24. She first claimed she took a shower WITH Fotis that morning of 5/24. But once she was confronted w fact that was impossible she said she must’ve just had her days mixed up. But she knew very close to 5/24 that everything that happened that morning was critical information She would absolutely have known if that alarm was going off when she walked into her room that morning. Things are not looking good for MT and todays evidence about all those trips back n forth between the houses and smoke coming out of the chimney when only MT was at 4 Jefferson is very telling. I don’t know how the jury does not conclude the Fotis & Michelle together were desperately disposing of evidence all day. Have we heard yet whether all her trips back n forth from the Spring Mountain Rd house & Jefferson Xing that day were admitted to by Michelle?
She just can't give a stait answer. Unbelievable.. a lot of chaff and redirect. I hope the jury sees through her and that this memory expert who hasn't even interviewed MT is shut down by the state!!
I’m a little behind watching the trial, but I’m dreading seeing Jennifer’s mom testifying bc it’s going to break my heart even more😢 Normally I don’t like prosecutors but I’m loving the State in this one. He’s GREAT!!!
Seriously!! Lol!! The Alex Murdaugh trial was longer and was done in a timely fashion. Start time was at 9:00am. I don't understand this 10:00am thing, then the first break is at 11:15?? REALLY?? 45 minutes of testimony for an hr to an hr and a 1/2 lunch break, another 45 minutes of testimony with another 15 minute break, then home before 4. Know wonder the wheels of justice run like a turtle.
It's about time someone does. Day 22 and finally putting together some kind of coherent time line. The prosecutor and judge from the murdaugh trial was way better.
I love Georgia but McGuiness is excellent too. There’s a lot more evidence the state needs to address in this case versus the Adelson case. Particularly to prevent the defense from arguing that Law Enforcement did not do a complete or good enough job. So many different potential crime scenes it takes time.
@@reefman90galDisagree completely. The way the state chose to present this case has completely screwed the defense. No doubt the defense strategy was planning on accusing LE of a sloppy investigation but the state has been so thorough no jury will buy it if defense tries it. There were so many diff potential crime scenes. And the evidence of why the State decided to charge Troconis is not easily described in an opening argument. The state had to painstakingly go over how the investigation progressed on Day 1, into Fotis Dulos and then finally into MT and her changing stories over 3 interviews. The fact she wants jury to believe her memory got better after MONTHS&MONTHS alone is not credible. It was deliberative based on what she knew LE knew. I’m very impressed by the states presentation & now understand why they waived an opening statement & why they have done what they’ve done.
Doubt it. I believe Georgia understands exactly why the state presented their case in this way and would have done same with this case & these sets of facts.
What a bunch of crock! My husband is trilingual and I’m bilingual, we do not process information differently , she lied ! She admits it to detectives and now the defense is trying to make some cockamamie defense 🙄
I say give her whatever she wants, cuz after Lauren being on the stand and all the evidence coming out, she's a cooked goose. That way there she can't come back and say we treated her poorly and she didn't get what she needed to understand the proceedings. So much for love.
What an unnecessary situation. Well educated adults, with 5 children and access to the finer things in life and look what was done to multiple lives...absolutely disgusting and evidences the rot that exists in some people.
I’m sure a lot more to come.. but if there is any video evidence of what JD was wearing at the school it has to be shown.. just to center everyone to the raw brutality of what did occur.. she was just a mom of 5 dropping off her kids at school, like we all do every day.. hours later she was dead, the same top she wore, soaked in her blood and casually discarded by what only be called as evil.
What really caught my breath was not only the fact that it was completely soaked in blood as was her bra, but that they were literally cut up the middle. I cried when they took them out of the bag. :(
Those poor innocent children lost their mom who they loved so much and who loved them deeply. It's a narcissist only who would take their mom from his own kids. She had a beautiful relationship with those kids. I'm beyond sad that they lost her and will be impacted for the rest of their lives knowing their dad this this crime. 😢😢😢😢😢
Anyone would start to remember more details after being asked again and again , what else do you remember? Everyone would start with what seemed the must important. When you are being told tell us more, what else was there, what else did you do, of course more details would come out,
"Not remembering" is one thing. Changing your "story," having to admit to leaving off your carefully scripted, excruciatingly detailed alibi/timeline major portions of your day???
Yeah but that’s not how MT’s alleged “memory” played out. She left out crucial detail in first 2 interviews and then…months later, wants LE to believe her memory got BETTER related to things that would be obviously important to a murder case but to a person who really was uninvolved, seemingly minor details. MT knew in 1st 2 interviews LE believed FD to be responsible for disappearance of Jennifer. Regardless of what SHE believed FD capable of, she would have recognized things like FD taking his employee’s truck to get detailed right after JD goes missing is something that should have absolutely been told to police. Too many things MT left out in interview 1 & 2 explains why MT was indicted and her stories not credible.
Michelle's attorney in these interrogations is terrible. And who would repeat the same information verbatim in 3 different interviews, the last being months after the second?
the attorney sitting in the interviews with her is the best thing that ever happened to her. the attorney sitting in the courtroom is the worst thing that ever happened to her. Further showing MT has very poor judgement as evidenced by the facts of this case.
@@IzzyMariel This trial, in my view, has been mostly against Fotis with a side of Michelle by implication. It sounds to me as though Fotis called the shots with everyone and was rarely disobeyed.
@@BeegirlsHoneyHouse The dirt bikes were because supposedly, MT "sold" -- through Fotis --a dirt bike to Pawel so they could all go dirt biking. He needed to take the bike back with the Tacoma because it had more room in the back than the Raptor. Then at some point MT finds out that Fotis sold Pawel the dirt bike but he "never paid for it". Pawel claims he paid Fotis for the bike but MT never got the money and demanded the bike back.
The state is suggesting that on a spring, sunny day Michelle was home using her fireplace. They are trying to prove she was burning evidence. Same day JD went missing.
@@caitlinfletcher5511 I’ve really been thinking how sinister it was that FD and MT seemed to be setting up his employee, owner of the Tacoma, to be the fall guy. 🥶☠️
I think this is the house that MT says she "helped" Fotis "clean" because there was supposedly going to be a showing. The man builds luxury homes, he can't afford a cleaning service?? Or is he hiding something .....scratching my head!
Meanwhile when asked what she cleaned in the house she struggled to answer! Apparently she wiped up a few droppings in the house! If you believe that! We know she was there cleaning the blood out of the red Tacoma and racing back home to burn it up in the fireplace.@@dublintoo
Her attorney is completely underestimating that evidence. He did a mini press conference after and he was trying to normalize starting a fire at 3:25-7pm (3 different times). Wood love to know if it was wood burning? He also objects to the neighbors May attire by calling him a runner- nah…no one runs in crocks. 😂
The two killers Fotis and Michi were back and forth burning bloody evidence in the home fireplace all afternoon in late springs when it was 75 degrees out
Well so far one point is Michelle liked about it. Then Pawvel (so?) stated Fotis told him Leave Michelle out of it. Do not tell the police she had your key. Likely there is lots more to that but this is more Michelle lying to police. More more more.
She was definitely lying. Over & over. To me, the significance of the key is Pawel saw it, was only gone a short time, and came back to find out MT had the key. So it was very intentional of her to do so. That is very odd unless she & FD didn't want him to take the truck, which he had expressed he wanted back for the weekend. They clearly did NOT want him to take it as they knew it needed cleaning & I also believe they were planning to use it for evidence disposal. Instead, they used Raptor. We see how that turned out! FD not wanting the police to know MT took the key may have been an attempt to avoid incriminating her as in on the crime. Just my thoughts!
As Pawel testified to, FD wanted him to keep the Raptor for another weekend (he had it for 2 weeks already). But when Pawel was expressing he wanted his Tacoma, they made one more attempt to keep it by MT leaving with the keys. When Pawel still wanted his truck, she returned with keys as any more coercing was going to cause suspicion. That's how I see this situation.
I believe they burned his clothes he wore to commit the crime. Being that her shirt and bra was discovered in trash cans. I don't believe he would've brought any of her dna in his house.
It seems 80 mountain spring was a staging area. Used to clean things & also take things to 4 Jefferson to burn. It was MT going back and forth. She knew, no way she didn't!
He bagged the clothes as he was disposing of the body. This question will bug me forever, he had to dispose of the body quickly upon arrival to one of the houses or somewhere in the area, but where?!!!
Wow! As I was watching this I seen either one or two people walk by past the arch way at the right side of the house. I wonder if the DA or detectives noticed. Look at time time 2:03:40-2:03:45 tell me if you see what I see?
It would not be so confusing if they had opening statements! There is no roadmap. It's hard to keep up. Hopefully the state's closing argument puts the puzzle together.
I think they think some of the evidence was taken from Jennifer’s house (stuff they didn’t find in garbage).. FD clothes, hat, cleaning stuff, etc) and MT started a fire and burned stuff there.
This is comical, the trooper bringing out Santa’s naughty and nice list just to intimidate her I truly think she had no idea what this nut job was capable of.
I visit every day to read the comments. Please do not take offense because this is just my take. For many years I have devoured true crime books and shows. I do not believe they dismembered JD or burned her in a fireplace. I saw a crime show where someone was dismembered and one of the criminals said in an interview it is very difficult and time consuming to dismember someone and he couldn't believe how much blood a person really has. I don't think even 10 rolls of paper towels would be enough to clean up the blood. Weren't FD and MT pretty visible in the hours and days after the murder? Would they have had the time to do it? As far as burning her in a fireplace. No way. A residential fireplace does not get hot enough to cremate someone. It takes a lot of accelerant, smashing of bones and takes about 2 days of constant monitoring to make sure the body disappears. So what the did they do with her, I hope one day they find her. What an evil person FD was and MT for helping him..
I think you were confused. No one said that she was incinerated in the fireplace. They were burning his clothes or other evidence most likely. They probably did dismember her at the empty property, put her body parts into trash bags and took them to the dump.
Her first lawyer SUCKED, there’s no way my lawyer would’ve let me speak so openly like she was. (I’m not siding with her) just an observation. It seemed like the lawyer was working for the opps. I do think she’s guilty though.
She speaks English like she just entered to US ,, lots of a,,,a,,,,a,,, She was running a business in there , with this kind of level of speaking English ,,,
She was much more fluid in her lying interrogations than in her allegedly "truthful" interrogations. Lie: HE leaves his phone all over the place! Come on, does she NEVER use a cell phone?
This judge is so good. He wants the jury to always understand his rulings.
She's guilty! After today, I am convinced! That stunt yesterday showing a document that may contain a psychological evaluation regarding Jennifer is beyond sickening. I'm here to say, I don't care what mental health issues Jennifer may or may not have had, by all accounts, she was a wonderful loving adoring devoted mother to her 5 children! She was a good wife and mother! Her nanny described how wonderful she was with her 5 children who loved their mommy! MT not only stole Jennifer's life, she stole a mommy from her 5 children! It's so evil.
OMG… check out the Home Screen on her laptop…it looked like a group photo.
Were they Jennifer’s children?
Anybody know? I tried to zoom in…
really cannot determine who it is.
Well said 👏🏻
@@HappyShackHomesteadit looks like it was a “family photo” of MT, FD, and all the kids. She made the comment to the GAL that she wouldn’t have moved if she knew that of all the legal custody drama between JD and FD and being excluded from their lives . FD told same GAL that his relationship with MT was suffering, they both planned to get JD out of the way. FD did it with her help after the fact!
@melissacraig6315Exactly right!!!! What about the results of Fotis psychological evaluation??? If he had one . The narcissist always points to the other person that they are crazy. In reality it is Fotis and Michelle that are the problem. Highly sick and manipulative people. They are poison.
Who doesn't get sick from living with a narcissist? After all, look what MT turned into--at least Jennifer finally had the strength to leave.
I love how the judge told the defense to get a report in by midnight. Very wise move.
Wow.. I wasn’t 100% convinced she knew, but THIS… the video evidence of the back & forth is VERY DAMAGING
Excellent presentation
@@realresident1890 ohhh.. WHY are they going back and forth, following each other, fireplace in warm weather? I think she may be very well screwed.. she did it.. helped him after for SURE..
And the smoke from the chimney at the other location.............Really??? Who uses the fireplace the end of May?? He was definitely destroying evidence.
@@dublintoo and it coordinated with the coming , fireplace goes , then stops, leaving, come back, more smoke.. it’s just SOOO bad
@@dublintooSHE. SHE, Michelle Troconis was definitely destroying evidence in the fireplace.
Fotis was NOT there at the time smoke was billowing from Fort Jefferson East Chimney.
Death knell for Troconis.
Smoking. Gun. 🔥🔥🔥
Fotis showed Michele just how much he cared about her by leaving her "holding the bag". I hope she feels ever ounce of regret that she should.
Her actions yesterday show me she doesn’t have any remorse for her poor choices.
And, he loved his kids so much he wasn't willing to share custody.
@@jane6989Share 😮😳🤢 That Fungus actually wanted Jennifer the 5 children himself his mistress & her daughter to remain living in Jefferson Crossing house TOGETHER as one big happy family 🤢🤢🤢 That was his long term goal, per the children's Guardian Ad Lietum Attorney Meehan 😮- As if were living in Iran or Pakistan.
POV: He was discustingly selfish. Of course he wanted Jennifer s money, his Sl. UT .... could you even imagine that😳 I can't wrap my mind around how warped that is......
@@jane6989
, and loved his precious children so very much that he had no qualms with snuffing out their loving, peaceful, nurturing mother.
@@karamarler7756 none!
After today’s evidence I am convinced she was a co conspirator to murder JD. The cars going back and forth between the two properties and smoke coming out of the chimney are so obvious. They were both very busy.She said she went back once to get a mop.What could possibly be her explanation for that? The story presented with this evidence puts her assisting in the clean up. For me it’s a reasonable conclusion . Add the bin run and missing her child’s school performance that night .
I agree, she professed to be a devoted mother, yet missed her child's school performance. She is demented and GUILTY
Smoke coming out of the chimney--is it possible Jennifer's body was burned to destroy any evidence of her?
Immigrants coming to America and killing a mother. Some nerve!
Also the bent handle of a mop or broom in trash...they probably burned the bloody end of mop.
Love this judge - he totally pays finite attention and wants to teach others
17:30 court begins with Judge continuing discussion about investigation of defendent using laptop to reveal concealed document and mother's involvement
28:50 Scott B - security representative for bank survellience
40:00 Det Kimbell re: survellience footage and 3rd interrogation/interview of defendent
01:51:00 return from break
02:10:00 3rd interrogation video
02:59:00 -04:01:00 lunch; defense continues to request limiting Detective from stating his opinion about the defendent/what is shown in interrogation.
04:09:30 jury returns
05:25:30 - 05:59:00 prosecution motion to dismiss defense expert
06:09:40 return from break
(I missed posting earlier this week because I resumed work from maternity leave)
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If that were me and I was unaware of any of his actions; I would have lost my mind at the detectives. She knows that she messed up.
At this point, MT is unarguably GUILTY. She'll rot in jail soon and I'll be waiting to celebrate that day
Must be exhausting keeping all of those lies straight….
Judges have AMAZING MEMORY they hear everything especially this judge
Atty Sean McGuinness tells the judge that the defendant still will not let Jennifer rest. Powerful !
Quickly zoom in and watch how Judge Randolph starts rocking himself. 👀
❤️🙏
That was an awesome if not a very sad statement. They should be filing for a search warrant to get her laptop. Hooray for Carrie Luft! I am surprised the judge didn't send MT's mother home. There was mention that this was a mental health evaluation page from a file that was sealed that MT was looking at?? I thought it was a page from a custody agreement that was put under seal?
Custody arrangement, yes, but it may have had a mental health diagnosis or information about something else that M wants to smear….
I think MTs lawyer in the room doesn't even believe her.
But they still have to defend her, lol…. What a nut job!
State has to prove her guilty vs her proving her innocence
He probably doesn’t and that’s why he never objects
Ugh it’s impossible to hear this interview.
It’s 2024 and it’s just completely unacceptable that police Depts have such inept audio visual technology
The courts are just as bad.
They don't give a f@ck.
Earphones, and put your sound on mono stereo….Thank you
I think part of the reason why it's so bad for us is that we are hearing a recording of the recording. The jury in the room is hearing it directly from the video. We get an extra layer of hearing it through youtube. It may not actually be that bad in the actual courtroom.
I think when she wrote that she was naked was code for she burned her clothes and washed off the blood. But I can't remember the exact time when she posted it.
@@gmaheybaby1283thanks I’ll try the mono. But I have been using my AirPods
She will be found guilty, as she is guilty. There is no way, she carries on this way without a thought that FD could have done this. She is lying!!! She’s guilty!!! Justice for Jennifer!!!
I’m not convinced she will be found guilty… or even that she is guilty.
@@BrandyLaneBLVDme too
@@BrandyLaneBLVDyou might have a diff brain 😂😂😂
@@Sunn777 I’m not sure what your comment was supposed to say, but I started out fully thinking she was guilty. Since then, the state has only proven Fotis committed the murder. I have yet to see evidence that she conspired with him. I’m waiting for it, and hoping they pull out some amazing evidence. But just because I want her to be guilty, doesn’t mean she actually is.
@@BrandyLaneBLVDI see no proof beyond a reasonable doubt that she knew in advance. You have to prove prior knowledge of the scheme. What would prove it is if she is on surveillance buying things found in the trash at any stores prior to the murder. There is still a lot of reasonable doubt on the conspiracy. She’s guilty on the hindering and tampering-there’s solid proof of that beyond a reasonable doubt.
Creepy about the chimney. Just catching up.
As in, seeing it actually “live” coming from it. Super freaky.
I had not heard about the chimney but now I can’t unsee it!! Horrible
Absolutely 😡👿☠️
Pure Evil 👿☠️
I’d rather have a root canal than listen to this defense attorney. He knows they messed up really really badly yesterday by giving MT sealed documents and her showing it in LARGE FONT to the gallery, so now he’s in panic mode. I was about to bounce but thank god the video started and I’m hoping he stops for a few minutes! 😂
Defence 'did not have control of their client', as they say.
Talk about ineffective assistance of counsel 😖
What actually was she doing with the laptop. I wondered what she was doing with a laptop in court? She's hanged herself. Wow!
Yep, was wondering the same thing. Full of self importance. She knew what she was doing displaying that information.
Much respect your honor
I really love this Judge
Guilty
Thank You Your honor.👌🏆
This whole case is sad and disturbing
Yeah that doesn’t ring credible.
Michelle says her alarm clock in her bedroom w Fotis was automatically set to 6:30am. Every morning it goes off at 6:30am. Every morning someone has to turn it off.
Michelle says she slept in her daughter’s room night before.
Michelle says she can’t remember if when she went back to her & Fotis’ room that morning to shower…if the alarm was going off.
Since no one was there (according to MT’s story) the alarm had to still be going off.
That is definitely something that would register as memorable in the brain as very Odd.
And it would make anyone else ask, “where is Fotis”?
(If this was not a conspiracy between them.)
The reason her saying she can’t remember is problematic is because she was interviewed right away after 5/24.
She first claimed she took a shower WITH Fotis that morning of 5/24.
But once she was confronted w fact that was impossible she said she must’ve just had her days mixed up.
But she knew very close to 5/24 that everything that happened that morning was critical information
She would absolutely have known if that alarm was going off when she walked into her room that morning.
Things are not looking good for MT and todays evidence about all those trips back n forth between the houses and smoke coming out of the chimney when only MT was at 4 Jefferson is very telling.
I don’t know how the jury does not conclude the Fotis & Michelle together were desperately disposing of evidence all day.
Have we heard yet whether all her trips back n forth from the Spring Mountain Rd house & Jefferson Xing that day were admitted to by Michelle?
I am glad I could watch what I missed. Shame on your defense.
The defense attorney Shoehorn is disrespectful to the Court. His objections overruled outnumbers the sustains. He seems to be whining all the time.
Michelle Troconis is not walking away from this! Connecticut wants her!! Believe that. CT. dont play. I know for a fact...
Guilty💯
Any woman would've asked F.D. more questions than M.T. is claiming she did not ask.
She just can't give a stait answer. Unbelievable.. a lot of chaff and redirect. I hope the jury sees through her and that this memory expert who hasn't even interviewed MT is shut down by the state!!
Eeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhheeeeeeeemmmmmm
I’m a little behind watching the trial, but I’m dreading seeing Jennifer’s mom testifying bc it’s going to break my heart even more😢
Normally I don’t like prosecutors but I’m loving the State in this one. He’s GREAT!!!
5:33 MT has her attorney's laptop. Does anyone know why her license got suspended in NY?
Love this judge. What is his name if anyone knows?
Kevin Randolph
“Ayyyyyyyyyyyy” about 300 times 😱
Love this Judge!!! Defense is cocky, threatening, smoke an mirrors..Judge see it❤she's a con artist liar and knows every move they made.. yey Contempt
Lord have Mercy!! Why the SMOKE!! Are they 🔥😞😨😥
The more shady the defendant the more shady the defense team. E-v-e-r-y s-i-n-g-l-e t-i-m-e!
Boom!
They break more than I break at work 😭
Seriously!! Lol!! The Alex Murdaugh trial was longer and was done in a timely fashion. Start time was at 9:00am. I don't understand this 10:00am thing, then the first break is at 11:15?? REALLY?? 45 minutes of testimony for an hr to an hr and a 1/2 lunch break, another 45 minutes of testimony with another 15 minute break, then home before 4. Know wonder the wheels of justice run like a turtle.
Did the detective, at any time, request an interpreter for himself?
Oh that’s FUNNY🤣🤣
lol
😂😂😂
You know defence attorney is getting PAID!!! BIG TIME!!!
Of course....daddy's a cardiac surgeon. No lack of funds there.
If Georgia Cappleman were representing the state, we would have wrapped this up by now and been home for Friday's dinner and a long weekend.
😅😅
Nah….she is dry.
We needed Creighton Waters for this from the beginning.
Attorney McGuinness is bringing it all together regardless.
It's about time someone does. Day 22 and finally putting together some kind of coherent time line. The prosecutor and judge from the murdaugh trial was way better.
I love Georgia but McGuiness is excellent too.
There’s a lot more evidence the state needs to address in this case versus the Adelson case.
Particularly to prevent the defense from arguing that Law Enforcement did not do a complete or good enough job.
So many different potential crime scenes it takes time.
@@reefman90galDisagree completely.
The way the state chose to present this case has completely screwed the defense.
No doubt the defense strategy was planning on accusing LE of a sloppy investigation but the state has been so thorough no jury will buy it if defense tries it.
There were so many diff potential crime scenes. And the evidence of why the State decided to charge Troconis is not easily described in an opening argument.
The state had to painstakingly go over how the investigation progressed on Day 1, into Fotis Dulos and then finally into MT and her changing stories over 3 interviews.
The fact she wants jury to believe her memory got better after MONTHS&MONTHS alone is not credible. It was deliberative based on what she knew LE knew.
I’m very impressed by the states presentation & now understand why they waived an opening statement & why they have done what they’ve done.
Doubt it. I believe Georgia understands exactly why the state presented their case in this way and would have done same with this case & these sets of facts.
What a bunch of crock!
My husband is trilingual and I’m bilingual, we do not process information differently , she lied ! She admits it to detectives and now the defense is trying to make some cockamamie defense 🙄
I say give her whatever she wants, cuz after Lauren being on the stand and all the evidence coming out, she's a cooked goose. That way there she can't come back and say we treated her poorly and she didn't get what she needed to understand the proceedings. So much for love.
All I hear is “eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeeemmmmmmmmmm”
I literally have to take breaks because of the ems😂
I couldn’t listen/watch the interrogation because of her eeeerrrrrrmmmmms. Bloody irritating
Yes Bob Smith. We know you keep making the same comment throughout. Smh
Interesting clue there with the smoking chimney... easy way to ridd themselves of some evidence 🤔
The interview isn't audible
CC gets a lot of it right. Helps
It's like Crouching to Armageddon. Either get this over with once and for all or fold up their tents. ⛺️
What an unnecessary situation. Well educated adults, with 5 children and access to the finer things in life and look what was done to multiple lives...absolutely disgusting and evidences the rot that exists in some people.
Are they not having court today 2-19-24
Yesterday, Mon. the 19th, was a federal holiday, Presidents Day. Court resumes today, Tues. the 20th.
@@sandtats Thank you
Has anyone been able to find on Thursdays video of her mom tapping her on the back?
Eeeeeeeeeeehhhhhheeeeeeeeeeemmmmm
MT’s rude as the jury stepped in the room.
I’m sure a lot more to come.. but if there is any video evidence of what JD was wearing at the school it has to be shown.. just to center everyone to the raw brutality of what did occur.. she was just a mom of 5 dropping off her kids at school, like we all do every day.. hours later she was dead, the same top she wore, soaked in her blood and casually discarded by what only be called as evil.
What really caught my breath was not only the fact that it was completely soaked in blood as was her bra, but that they were literally cut up the middle. I cried when they took them out of the bag. :(
Those poor innocent children lost their mom who they loved so much and who loved them deeply. It's a narcissist only who would take their mom from his own kids. She had a beautiful relationship with those kids. I'm beyond sad that they lost her and will be impacted for the rest of their lives knowing their dad this this crime. 😢😢😢😢😢
there is someone from the school on the witness list. probably to testify to just what you mentioned.
05:26:10 really "Airhorn" has to speak Spanish to MT to tell her to sit.... 🙄🙄🙄
I love love love this judge….I feel that he knows that Michelle had more to do with this murder than she’s saying
If James Earle Jones was a judge, behold....
Eyyyeeeeeeehhhh
🤯
Why would this rich socialite clean houses? Why would fotis clean houses?
Hi,is Michelle free,out on bond or in jail, thanks! have a good one
She is out on bond.
@@pertreniaguidry4997Hopefully revoked soon for her horrible behavior. Wishful thinking on my part!
why does the murderer get to have a laptop? 🤪
Anyone would start to remember more details after being asked again and again , what else do you remember? Everyone would start with what seemed the must important. When you are being told tell us more, what else was there, what else did you do, of course more details would come out,
"Not remembering" is one thing. Changing your "story," having to admit to leaving off your carefully scripted, excruciatingly detailed alibi/timeline major portions of your day???
Yeah but that’s not how MT’s alleged “memory” played out.
She left out crucial detail in first 2 interviews and then…months later, wants LE to believe her memory got BETTER related to things that would be obviously important to a murder case but to a person who really was uninvolved, seemingly minor details.
MT knew in 1st 2 interviews LE believed FD to be responsible for disappearance of Jennifer.
Regardless of what SHE believed FD capable of, she would have recognized things like FD taking his employee’s truck to get detailed right after JD goes missing is something that should have absolutely been told to police.
Too many things MT left out in interview 1 & 2 explains why MT was indicted and her stories not credible.
Michelle's attorney in these interrogations is terrible. And who would repeat the same information verbatim in 3 different interviews, the last being months after the second?
The truth is much easier to recall. Lies are not. That's probably what they are implying.
@@dianewillson4535 She was telling the truth about never saying she cleaned windows so even these interrogators mess up.
the attorney sitting in the interviews with her is the best thing that ever happened to her. the attorney sitting in the courtroom is the worst thing that ever happened to her. Further showing MT has very poor judgement as evidenced by the facts of this case.
@@IzzyMariel This trial, in my view, has been mostly against Fotis with a side of Michelle by implication. It sounds to me as though Fotis called the shots with everyone and was rarely disobeyed.
@@sunnyann7 well they charged her with conspiracy to commit murder, so they have to prove a murder happened.
I am confused about bike?! She is saying here that pawel saw the bike at mountain spring, why didn’t they ask him about that on the stand??
There’s also the confusion that there was a bicycle and the talk of the dirt bikes.
@@BeegirlsHoneyHouse The dirt bikes were because supposedly, MT "sold" -- through Fotis --a dirt bike to Pawel so they could all go dirt biking. He needed to take the bike back with the Tacoma because it had more room in the back than the Raptor. Then at some point MT finds out that Fotis sold Pawel the dirt bike but he "never paid for it". Pawel claims he paid Fotis for the bike but MT never got the money and demanded the bike back.
They did ask him about the bike on the stand
Why can't they read her body language every time Jennifer's name comes up she GUARDS HER NECK 😡
She is a disgrace 😡🤬
@@dawnarellano7903to womanhood period.
What’s the significance about the smoke coming out of chimney from fotis’ house?
probably evidence was being burned.
The state is suggesting that on a spring, sunny day Michelle was home using her fireplace. They are trying to prove she was burning evidence. Same day JD went missing.
Agreed they never found his hat he was wearing and a few other things
@@caitlinfletcher5511
I’ve really been thinking how sinister it was that FD and MT seemed to be setting up his employee, owner of the Tacoma, to be the fall guy. 🥶☠️
@@BeegirlsHoneyHouse absolutely. And to also plant that seed in his head about his green card. Sick.
tell the family where Jennifer is and you get 20 years with possibility of earlier release
She’s likely in a separated, fragmented state like Anna Walshe…🥲🇺🇸⚖️
From what I have read, the family is no longer interested in a deal.
She had her chances.
She gave up her chance for immunity and that is off the table she will never admit to it no matter what
What are they cleaning at 80 mountain spring rd?
I think this is the house that MT says she "helped" Fotis "clean" because there was supposedly going to be a showing. The man builds luxury homes, he can't afford a cleaning service?? Or is he hiding something .....scratching my head!
Thank you
Meanwhile when asked what she cleaned in the house she struggled to answer! Apparently she wiped up a few droppings in the house! If you believe that! We know she was there cleaning the blood out of the red Tacoma and racing back home to burn it up in the fireplace.@@dublintoo
Did the defense know prior to the testimony about the smoke? Or were they surprised?
not sure, but they'd be surprised if they didn't know, and if they did, they were hoping the prosecution didn't catch it.
Her attorney is completely underestimating that evidence. He did a mini press conference after and he was trying to normalize starting a fire at 3:25-7pm (3 different times). Wood love to know if it was wood burning? He also objects to the neighbors May attire by calling him a runner- nah…no one runs in crocks. 😂
He had the evidence. Whether he understood it’s significance I don’t know.
Unless LE mentioned it somewhere in a report.
@@kcrun I checked the house listing from when it was on the market and it does have wood burning fireplaces.
They evil
Too many adds 👎🏻
What's up with the smoke coming from the chimney?
They think the Dynamic
Duo was burning evidence
The two killers Fotis and Michi were back and forth burning bloody evidence in the home fireplace all afternoon in late springs when it was 75 degrees out
@@SunFlower-sf1go thank you. Did that come up in the trial? I didn't have time watching the whole video 😕
Why didn’t he make the audience stand up when the jury entered?
Cause he’s 😡 and for good reason! He will have to hold a contempt hearing after this looong case…who gave Michelle access to a sealed file?!
@@jagirl674she had it from back in time when she was with Fotis
What was the significance of the key sticking out of Tacoma when Fotis and Pawel drove away, when they came back Pawel was told Michelle took it? Why?
Well so far one point is Michelle liked about it. Then Pawvel (so?) stated Fotis told him Leave Michelle out of it. Do not tell the police she had your key. Likely there is lots more to that but this is more Michelle lying to police. More more more.
She was definitely lying. Over & over. To me, the significance of the key is Pawel saw it, was only gone a short time, and came back to find out MT had the key. So it was very intentional of her to do so. That is very odd unless she & FD didn't want him to take the truck, which he had expressed he wanted back for the weekend. They clearly did NOT want him to take it as they knew it needed cleaning & I also believe they were planning to use it for evidence disposal. Instead, they used Raptor. We see how that turned out! FD not wanting the police to know MT took the key may have been an attempt to avoid incriminating her as in on the crime. Just my thoughts!
That's exactly what they wanted! They were hoping he would just take the truck. @@karalynne7616
As Pawel testified to, FD wanted him to keep the Raptor for another weekend (he had it for 2 weeks already). But when Pawel was expressing he wanted his Tacoma, they made one more attempt to keep it by MT leaving with the keys. When Pawel still wanted his truck, she returned with keys as any more coercing was going to cause suspicion. That's how I see this situation.
@@karalynne7616 got it! Thanks.
Hide that face dear
I believe they burned his clothes he wore to commit the crime. Being that her shirt and bra was discovered in trash cans. I don't believe he would've brought any of her dna in his house.
I believe he did bring items home and bagged them up within those homes for the Hartford disposal that night.
It seems 80 mountain spring was a staging area. Used to clean things & also take things to 4 Jefferson to burn. It was MT going back and forth. She knew, no way she didn't!
He bagged the clothes as he was disposing of the body. This question will bug me forever, he had to dispose of the body quickly upon arrival to one of the houses or somewhere in the area, but where?!!!
Wow! As I was watching this I seen either one or two people walk by past the arch way at the right side of the house. I wonder if the DA or detectives noticed. Look at time time 2:03:40-2:03:45 tell me if you see what I see?
I am confused. I thought the cleanup was at Jennifer's house as that is where she was killed. Why are they talking about another property?
It seems he brought some items home…the things he dumped in Hartford. Those items were, most likely, at the homes discussed.
@@bamazing2731Thank you so much!
It would not be so confusing if they had opening statements! There is no roadmap. It's hard to keep up. Hopefully the state's closing argument puts the puzzle together.
I think they think some of the evidence was taken from Jennifer’s house (stuff they didn’t find in garbage).. FD clothes, hat, cleaning stuff, etc) and MT started a fire and burned stuff there.
@@MommaSmithThanks!
Well that's where the evidence went. Up in smoke
She thinks she is HOT stuff…..and she is NOT!!
Jesus lady, you want tell us what happened? 🤪
en den eh say …👀👻
This is comical, the trooper bringing out Santa’s naughty and nice list just to intimidate her I truly think she had no idea what this nut job was capable of.
She’s a nut bag herself and it looks pretty clear that she was definitely in cahoots with FD. 👿👿🇺🇸
You are clueless Woots- sorry!
I visit every day to read the comments. Please do not take offense because this is just my take. For many years I have devoured true crime books and shows. I do not believe they dismembered JD or burned her in a fireplace. I saw a crime show where someone was dismembered and one of the criminals said in an interview it is very difficult and time consuming to dismember someone and he couldn't believe how much blood a person really has. I don't think even 10 rolls of paper towels would be enough to clean up the blood. Weren't FD and MT pretty visible in the hours and days after the murder? Would they have had the time to do it? As far as burning her in a fireplace. No way. A residential fireplace does not get hot enough to cremate someone. It takes a lot of accelerant, smashing of bones and takes about 2 days of constant monitoring to make sure the body disappears. So what the did they do with her, I hope one day they find her. What an evil person FD was and MT for helping him..
I think you were confused. No one said that she was incinerated in the fireplace. They were burning his clothes or other evidence most likely. They probably did dismember her at the empty property, put her body parts into trash bags and took them to the dump.
Wa wa wa…..
Her first lawyer SUCKED, there’s no way my lawyer would’ve let me speak so openly like she was. (I’m not siding with her) just an observation. It seemed like the lawyer was working for the opps.
I do think she’s guilty though.
Loftus very expensive and not scientific imo
I know her published work is n misinformation effect. I also published such results.
shoenhorn sounds so desperate
Maybe he cut her up and put here in the fire place that is why there is smoke in May
I will be so glad when this trial is over so I no longer have to keep seeing this annoying thumbnail show up in my feed.
She speaks English like she just entered to US ,, lots of a,,,a,,,,a,,,
She was running a business in there , with this kind of level of speaking English ,,,
They need to use a psychic medium to help figure out where Jennifer's remains might be; law enforcement have had success with this in the past.
Ehrrrrrmmm
She was much more fluid in her lying interrogations than in her allegedly "truthful" interrogations.
Lie: HE leaves his phone all over the place!
Come on, does she NEVER use a cell phone?
Eeeeeehhhhhhh
The Defense Attorney is the "Better Call Saul" of real life he is just as shady as they come.
He did not just tell her to sit in Spanish when she speaks English hahahah I just spit my water out.